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[REQUEST] Black List for Force 90 HZ

Hello guys,
As you know we are able to force 90hz for all apps. Not always it's a good idea because of :
- battery reason
- Google maps issues
- games which are not "high end" to avoid high battery usage (games like poker and so on does not need 90hz)
I wanted to ask some developers if they can create an application which can be configured themselve (black list for all apps which should not run in 90hz for example)
Thanks so.much (this would.be a reason to root if it requires root).

Put it on auto and let it manage itself or install gravitybox and you can change refresh rate from the quick-settings tile.

trapcoder666 said:
Put it on auto and let it manage itself or install gravitybox and you can change refresh rate from the quick-settings tile.
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Really ?
If I root and use gravity box I can change it for every app?

manutoxic said:
Really ?
If I root and use gravity box I can change it for every app?
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Well, you need to swipe down your quick settings and click the refresh rate tile. So, it's not automated but at least it makes things easier.

trapcoder666 said:
Well, you need to swipe down your quick settings and click the refresh rate tile. So, it's not automated but at least it makes things easier.
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I Wish there would be an application to configure it app by apl

manutoxic said:
I Wish there would be an application to configure it app by apl
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No but JOnePlus Tool lets you just turn it on and off with a single button on the fly. Just open the app and it's on the main screen there.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jroot3d.joneplustools&hl=en_US

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79813631&postcount=78

I also use the forced 90hz all apps and the battery drain from this is seriously overblown. People scream about what they know nothing about. People need to educate themselves before making claims. They just say it kills battery without even trying it. I did nothing different, changed nothing and used my phone the same way I normally do and it made a difference of an increase of .7% battery drain with the screen on compared to 90hz on auto. It went from 6.3% drain pet hour to 7.0% per hour of screen on time. And since I've gotten days with 6.1% with it on forced 90hz all apps. So the difference isn't of and significance. Just try it and if you don't like it, switch it back. You'll find it makes no real difference when using it.
So there really should not be a need to blacklist 90hz all apps for just certain apps imo

Im sure someone could setup a tasker profile for this reason.

equlizer said:
Im sure someone could setup a tasker profile for this reason.
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I did in 2 posts above that was linked, also its in the guides section.

I wish we could have possibility to decide to run some apps in 90hz and another in 60 hz.
For instance I wish KODI could run in 60hz.

netgar said:
I wish we could have possibility to decide to run some apps in 90hz and another in 60 hz.
For instance I wish KODI could run in 60hz.
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here is my guide
If you need some help setting it up let me know. This will let u choose which apps use 60Hz and others will force 90Hz

Any possibility without buying tasker?

I switch to maps, display switched to 60, I turned off maps and display still remains 60. Didn't switch to 90.
Thats the way that should work? I need to manually switch to 90?

netgar said:
I switch to maps, display switched to 60, I turned off maps and display still remains 60. Didn't switch to 90.
Thats the way that should work? I need to manually switch to 90?
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Not sure what your setup is exactly but if you're running the forced 90hz for all apps it is a bug that it shows as 60hz in the OOS setting under display. So if the tasker profile you are using switches from 90hz all apps and back to 60hz then your display setting will basically always show 60hz.
You can use this to test what your refresh rate is currently, either 60 or 90hz
https://www.testufo.com/

manutoxic said:
Any possibility without buying tasker?
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we cannot provide you that info on here... google may be ur friend on how to go about doing that.

Eric214 said:
Not sure what your setup is exactly but if you're running the forced 90hz for all apps it is a bug that it shows as 60hz in the OOS setting under display. So if the tasker profile you are using switches from 90hz all apps and back to 60hz then your display setting will basically always show 60hz.
You can use this to test what your refresh rate is currently, either 60 or 90hz
https://www.testufo.com/
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I don't use forsed 90hz all apps.
Ones I shut off maps I need to manually switch display back to 90hz.

no issues with maps at 90hz here. Strange as some do.

manutoxic said:
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So you want somebody to develop an app for your needs but won't pay for it?

I just found an app called Auto90. You can select which app you want to be auto/60 or 90hz. It's wonderful!

Can the refresh rate be set to 60Hz or 120Hz (not auto switching)

Hi,
Does this phone have the ability to set the refresh rate to 60Hz with LineageOS?
Is there something like this:
Settings > Display > Advanced > Minimum refresh rate
where you can set the refresh rate to 60Hz? If someone has LineageOS installed on this device could you take a screenshot of the setting page?
I have read that there are problems with 120Hz and using dark mode. Here is an article that discussed this: https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_8t-review-2183p3.php
I am looking for mainly extra battery life.

iooxda said:
Hi,
Does this phone have the ability to set the refresh rate to 60Hz with LineageOS?
Is there something like this:
Settings > Display > Advanced > Minimum refresh rate
where you can set the refresh rate to 60Hz? If someone has LineageOS installed on this device could you take a screenshot of the setting page?
I have read that there are problems with 120Hz and using dark mode. Here is an article that discussed this: https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_8t-review-2183p3.php
I am looking for mainly extra battery life.
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only 120 but seem scale automatically

You can also force 120hz all the time through adb

Is there a way to force 60hz all the time though adb as well or only 120hz?

wizardxp77 said:
only 120 but seem scale automatically
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So is there a setting under display at all or is there no setting at all?

When you do 60hz it's locked at 60, if you do 120 it'll be variable so usually 120 but drops to 60hz when you're on a stationary page. If you want to lock it at 120 then you'll need to do adb commands, I used joneolus tools. Look up how to use it in YouTube, I found a great tutorial that'll walk you thru the commands

Question Adaptive refresh rate is enabled or not ?

Basically it's more than a week I'm using the device and when I enabled "show refresh rate" ( via developer option) , I noticed that the fps is stuck at 60/120 . POCO mentioned that it's an smart display so the adaptive refresh rate must be enabled by default . Isn't it so ? Or am I wrong ?
Is the fps count same for everyone ? I mean the rate is fixed no adaptive refresh rate is present? Pls let me know if there is any option/method to enable adaptive Refresh rate (without unlocking BL )?

You have selected 120hz iin display setting ? I have poco x3 pro but when watching youtube is going back to 30/60 hz and in home page 120hz.

astronomy2021 said:
You have selected 120hz iin display setting ? I have poco x3 pro but when watching youtube is going back to 30/60 hz and in home page 120hz.
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When 120 Hz enabled then it goes to 60 (only for YouTube)
I'm generally using it on 60 Hz mode and no drops in refresh rate (never seen 30hz) . I was saying that , will it drop to 1hz when there is no interaction on screen

No to 1hz that only for 865 and up devices

Gold case said:
When 120 Hz enabled then it goes to 60 (only for YouTube)
I'm generally using it on 60 Hz mode and no drops in refresh rate (never seen 30hz) . I was saying that , will it drop to 1hz when there is no interaction on screen
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Never goes on 1hz when no interaction. Must be enabled on 60/120hz, and is not enabled for now...
No?

jorgeepelos said:
Never goes on 1hz when no interaction. Must be enabled on 60/120hz, and is not enabled for now...
No?
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Yeah

There is no adaptive refresh rate in this, atleast not on my Poco x3 PRO. If they said there would be they lied haha

Question Rotation lag

Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?

This issue goes way back. Even my 10+ does it.
Might have to do with the sensor refresh rate and/or degree of tilt/time at tilt/yaw.
If it takes more then a second there's definitely a fault issue.

Mmh. Actually I didn't recognize this when using my S20 with 120hz. At least not that much. So there's nothing that can improve the experience? I even thought the phone didn't have this behavior from the start which led to the question if I have something fishy installed. But there's nothing out of the ordinary. It's the same when using stock launcher or Ruthless launcher.

Be interested if there was a way to make it more responsive. This aspect of the device's behavior is slow by comparison to it's otherwise snappy performance. It is irritating... I hate waiting.
It's about .5-1 second on the N10+ in Brave browser and elsewhere.
I'm going to go through accessibility settings again. It's likely a user hidden setting though.

Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.

KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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Yeap, no joy

KOLIOSIS said:
Have y'all dug into Developer Options & set the animation speeds to 0.5 (or 0)?
It might help some, if you haven't already done so. However, I've experienced it as well on occasion,getting "stuck", if you will.
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For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.

Cris7ianO said:
For me the problem is that it looks sluggish as if the phone struggles to display the 120 Hz. Setting the transition scale to 0.5 or 0 doesn't do it for me. Makes it even more unsatisfying.
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It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.

blackhawk said:
It has nothing to do with your refresh rate or does it? It so there may be some hope.
Like I said though both my N10+'s behave this way, it's normal... and irritating.
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Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.

Cris7ianO said:
Honestly it looks like the phone is struggling to keep it on 120hz when rotating. When I choose 60hz and rotate the phone it looks the same way constantly. That's why I'm thinking it has something to do with the frame rate. So in my case it's not about a delay for the animation it's about the smoothness.
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What I'm talking about is how long it takes to flip the screen to landscape once the phone's flipped. Close to 1 second.
I always disable all animations as it wastes resources plus I like the snap.
Lol, if it needs animations, it's too slow.

Cris7ianO said:
Hi,
anyone noticing lag in the rotation animation? Most of the time the first time is pretty smooth. When changing rotation a few times thereafter the animations look more like 60 fps (although 120 is activated). Tried it in different apps. Always the same and really annoying and ugly.
Can anybody confirm this?
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Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.

twistedumbrella said:
Sounds like something might be bogging it down.
I have the obligatory delay when rotating (because you have a ton of redraws happening on top of the actual animation itself, not some accessibility setting), but it is minimal. That aside, the rotation is smooth with animation set to 0.5 and adaptive motion smoothness.
The difference between your previous S20, my previous Note 20, and the Z Flip 3 is the lost RAM. This is an 8GB device, compared to 12GB or 16GB from last year. After some time getting used to being able to launch a bunch of stuff, it is easy to forget that this one can't run quite as much at once.
The only sure way to stop that completely without having to keep tabs on how much is running would be Developer options -> Don't keep activities or setting Background process limit, both of which come with some downsides.
If it is happening with a single app running after multiple turns, that could indicate an issue with the GPU. It could be as simple as poor cache handling that will be resolved with an update or a clean start. It could also be a hardware issue.
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This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.

Cris7ianO said:
This sounds like a reasonable explanation to me. The S20 with 12 GB indeed hadn't any of those issues, at least not to that extent. In addition I don't have that issue permanently. It only occurs from time to time. Haven't got an update since release. Hopefully it gets an improvement in the near future as it is disturbing. Nevertheless it is a joke that something like that happens even with 8 GB of RAM.
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Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.

twistedumbrella said:
Do you use split screen apps? The only time i've really come across the issue was trying to run both a game and the browser with a couple other apps still in the background.
I think an update will definitely help, though. It seems like the 8GB on this is a larger step down than it should be right now and it is supposed to be a much better GPU.
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No, I don't really use split screen apps. Hopefully an update will help. The device definitely has some obvious tradeoffs but in general it feels fresh and I really like it.

Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?

Cris7ianO said:
Just an update from my side: Indeed my inner feeling wasn't wrong. I just encountered the sluggish rotation again. Thereafter I went to developer settings and enabled show refresh rate. I went back and tried rotation again. The first time all is fine and it shows 120, but the times thereafter it jumped to 60 Hz when rotating. And if course my eyes will notice this behavior as they are used to 120. Hopefully this will get fixed. This has to be software related.
So this behavior is due to the adaptive refresh rate. It's there a way to force 120 all the time?
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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.

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[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Control: Easily control the max refresh rate (Hz) of android devices with multiple refresh rates (e.g. note20 ultra, s20/S20+/S20Ultra, z fold 2, s21/s21+/s21Ultra, tab S7/S7+, z fold 3, z flip 3). This app can limit...
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Pretty sure that would be able to handle it for you.
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I tried this app and I am not fully satisfied with the outcome. Of course forcing 120hz will train the small battery even more and I don't want to be dependant on a 3rd party solution. Just to confirm the behavior is not only on my end, can you please test the following on your device?
1. Go to developer options and enable show refresh rate
2. Go in following apps: e.g. Whatsapp, Facebook, Google Play, Samsung Internet, Amazon Shopping (cause I don't face this issue on all apps)
3. In each app wait a few seconds four the refresh rate to go down to 60 and then rotate the screen (In my case the refresh rate stays at 60 when rotating in the mentioned apps and this looks horrible when the rest is running on 120hz)
If you could borrow a few minutes of your time to check that would be awesome and is very appreciated Thanks in advance!

Update: Just to be sure I did a factory reset. Still no improvement...
Further investigation gave me more information. There is something weird going on. When display brightness is low (around 10-15%) there is no issue for the phone keeping 120 while rotating. When I go up in brightness the 60hz rotation is back again. This is horrible. I've had a look on the new iPhone 13 pro and Apple doesn't have these issues with their adaptive screen. As I had the S20 before and skipped the s21 with the adaptive one this Flip is my first Samsung device with an adaptive screen. The experience is horrible. I just want a compact android device without such a compromise. This is ridiculous.

Question 12s ultra LTPO problem (refresh rate) in EU ROM

I think the LTPO2 is not working properly on eu rom currently im on last update 13.0.11 and i can see that the refresh rate is not going to 1fps in main menu or in settings, the frames going only low to 90fps in Facebook and i think this draining a lot of battery. Could you check on your phones how it is, go in developer settings and enable "show refresh rate" to see do you have this problem as well and if there is any solution for that, thanks

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I think the LTPO2 is not working properly on eu rom currently im on last update 13.0.11 and i can see that the refresh rate is not going to 1fps in main menu or in settings, the frames going only low to 90fps in Facebook and i think this draining a lot of battery. Could you check on your phones how it is, go in developer settings and enable "show refresh rate" to see do you have this problem as well and if there is any solution for that, thanks
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Adjust brightness.
Screen in FHD+ 60Hz
Minimum brightness: stay at 60
Brightness in the middle: goes to 30
Maximum brightness: goes to 10
With any other settings, the minimum reached is 10.
Surely a particular scenario is needed to reach 1.
You were going to 1 with the stock rom?
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...-rate-not-working-correctly.61079/post-650620

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Adjust brightness.
Screen in FHD+ 60Hz
Minimum brightness: stay at 60
Brightness in the middle: goes to 30
Maximum brightness: goes to 10
With any other settings, the minimum reached is 10.
Surely a particular scenario is needed to reach 1.
You were going to 1 with the stock rom?
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...-rate-not-working-correctly.61079/post-650620
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Thank you for information, i have never used the phone with stock CH ROM, but now i have realised the brightest is the main thing as well, thanks and it works alright