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I offer myself as a tester. I don't know to compile ROMS
Perhaps you should try RR and feedback missing features? I wouldn't expect anything until the kernel source is released though.
I don't understand because Xiaomi has this politic. Xiaomi has that to sell first a new model for free source code of others old models. My great dissolusion with Xiaomi only to sell her software she doesn't allow that the community developers do their great work with this fantastics ROM for example LineageOs, AICP, Hexa-project, Resurrection Remix, Etc......
coco19821961 said:
I don't understand because Xiaomi has this politic. Xiaomi has that to sell first a new model for free source code of others old models. My great dissolusion with Xiaomi only to sell her software she doesn't allow that the community developers do their great work with this fantastics ROM for example LineageOs, AICP, Hexa-project, Resurrection Remix, Etc......
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My man, I fully understand your point, hell I share it.
But you bought the phone fully knowing this was going to happen. If you did not you flat out did not do your homework.
Xiaomi is always lagging heavily on releasing their sources and has always been very vague regarding their release dates. Heck they often simply drop it out of nowhere.
If you wanted the source code NOW and this was not debatable you should have bought the 3T.
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My man, I fully understand your point.
But you bought the phone fully knowing this was going to happen. If you did not you flat out did not do your homework.
Xiaomi is always lagging heavily on releasing their sources and has always been very vague regarding their release dates. Heck they often simply drop it out of nowhere.
If you wanted the source code NOW and this was not debatable you should have bought the 3T.
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I did not know. I am sorry by my ignorance. I bought this device because It seems to me very good and It has a great hardware, but her software I don't like
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I did not know. I am sorry by my ignorance. I bought this device because It seems to me very good and It has a great hardware, but her software I don't like
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It just strikes me as very odd that one is willing to throw at least 400 bucks without checking how active rom development is.
I bought this phone with the idea that the source code will be released before end of may.
If it does not happen I'd be quite sad, but the current RR is actually really ****ing good. I don't actually mind as much.
So, once again, referring to my first post, did you even try RR?
This work is for @NexusPenguin, friend if you have a little time can you please try to compile Hexa-Project and ValidusOS
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It just strikes me as very odd that one is willing to throw at least 400 bucks without checking how active rom development is.
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Hi,
LOL... Don't forget that, on the other side of the river, I mean the iOS side, people spend 1000 bucks on their phone not even knowing what development and custom ROM even is as even the concept can hardly be imagined
I'll try to compile Validus (I'm part of the GZR team anyways so it was planned right after I got Tipsy to boot) and Hexa-OS (that I didn't know before).
I'll keep you put here of course
Regards.
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Hi,
LOL... Don't forget that, on the other side of the river, I mean the iOS side, people spend 1000 bucks on their phone not even knowing what development and custom ROM even is as even the concept can hardly be imagined
I'll try to compile Validus (I'm part of the GZR team anyways so it was planned right after I got Tipsy to boot) and Hexa-OS (that I didn't know before).
I'll keep you put here of course
Regards.
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Thanks man, i like you thinking!
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I offer myself as a tester. I don't know to compile ROMS
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Hi,
I've looked at the Hexa-OS project.
I think you should give up all hope to have it ported to mi5s Plus.
The Hexa-OS is a purely NON-CAF project meant only for Google devices (Nexus Line and Pixel Line).
It can be ported for other devices, but that will require a lot of work and specific skills that I do not have and do not intend to acquire.
But I am in the Validus team and will try to build, even though I already face problems
But I ALWAYS had problems with Validus
Regards.
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Hi,
I've looked at the Hexa-OS project.
I think you should give up all hope to have it ported to mi5s Plus.
The Hexa-OS is a purely NON-CAF project meant only for Google devices (Nexus Line and Pixel Line).
It can be ported for other devices, but that will require a lot of work and specific skills that I do not have and do not intend to acquire.
But I am in the Validus team and will try to build, even though I already face problems
But I ALWAYS had problems with Validus
Regards.
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Hello. THANK YOU! By your good work
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
LOL... Don't forget that, on the other side of the river, I mean the iOS side, people spend 1000 bucks on their phone not even knowing what development and custom ROM even is as even the concept can hardly be imagined
Regards.
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I didn't imply to refer to the whole community, heck I figure +95% gives negative ****s about custom ROMs.
It just strikes me as odd that people who actually care about ROM development don't bother to check its popularity beforehand.
Especially if it's more than 200 bucks.
Good to know you're ontop of this, I'll await the times of the released kernels and sail the seas of unrestricted ROM development
Hi,
Look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s-plus/development/rom-hexa-project-t3586559
Regards.
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Hi,
Look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s-plus/development/rom-hexa-project-t3586559
Regards.
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Hi downloading right now
Hi,
Looking at another post/thread, it seems that Jan Pavulovic has managed to build this ROM for the mi5s Plus.
Weird, I really thought it was an AOSP non-caf ROM.
Maybe there's another branch ?
Regards.
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Hi,
Looking at another post/thread, it seems that Jan Pavulovic has managed to build this ROM for the mi5s Plus.
Weird, I really thought it was an AOSP non-caf ROM.
Maybe there's another branch ?
Regards.
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Hi I am using this ROM and perfect. Others ROM will can made for this device. Thank you by your work. Sorry my english is poor
Never mind , didn't read the last post
what is HexaProject ?
Good afternoon Lenovo P2-community,
I bought the P2 this week and afterwards I realised , that the main developers wzedlare and EypCnn left to the Moto G5-community just in time.
What about other developers or those who want to become one, is there a chance to see continous builds of LineageOS e.g.?
It would be extremely sad if not..
Please update me - how are the odds for a revival of the P2 development?
Best regards
swatchfb
Edit:
It's done once and twice officially. Thanks @mikeioannina
Unless we get a Dev that takes donations or something like that.
I for one would donate for an official lineage OS.
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Good afternoon Lenovo P2-community,
I bought the P2 this week and afterwards I realised , that the main developers wzedlare and EypCnn left to the Moto G5-community just in time.
What about other developers or those who want to become one, is there a chance to see continous builds of LineageOS e.g.?
It would by extremely sad if not..
Please update me - how are the odds for a revival of the P2 development?
Best regards
swatchfb
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Yes it's really sad to see a this much good device not having the development it deserves.Its competitor redmi note 4 which is inferior to p2 has a lot better development. I think this device isn't sold much like moto g5 plus and redmi note 4.Atleast here in India, sale is very less and other devices have been sold at least upto 100 times more.I am still skeptical about the development.P1 doesn't have a great development either.We have roms but they are buggy.Would have been nice to have wzedlare and egypcnn here
I would donate too...
Damn, why did they go to the Moto G5? It's clearly a downgrade -.-
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I would donate too...
Damn, why did they go to the Moto G5? It's clearly a downgrade -.-
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Exactly Even I don't get it.And they had done so much work for 3-4 months,They almost gave us a stable rom.P2 is so much better than g5.If it would have been g5 plus i would have understood but g5!!!.I don't understand
Buy me a second P2 to dedicate to development and I will gladly continue the bringup to the point of full functionality. While I do have a P2 myself I can't afford messing with it too much as it's my work phone and I need it to be stable and reachable.
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Buy me a second P2 to dedicate to development and I will gladly continue the bringup to the point of full functionality. While I do have a P2 myself I can't afford messing with it too much as it's my work phone and I need it to be stable and reachable.
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You can compile builds brother,we are here to test .I will be your tester.But please be there for at least 1-2 years.
Just like I do with my mi 4,I test builds and the developer has been there for at least 2 years.
But plz do something for this awesome device:crying:
I'm definitely not going to do "blind-runs" and jeopardize other people's devices with builds I haven't tested myself.
Not only is it irresponsible but also extremely slow to do, even with a group of dedicated testers.
As if we knew how many people are interested in it, one could think about a collection of money.
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I'm definitely not going to do "blind-runs" and jeopardize other people's devices with builds I haven't tested myself.
Not only is it irresponsible but also extremely slow to do, even with a group of dedicated testers.
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How unstable can they be , if calling and internet works,I don't mind flashing that build.If we want something for our device,we will have to do this.
Maybe yes that can be slow,I agree.But I don't think we will be able to raise that much money to buy a new device altogether.I am still a student I can't contribute money
If you trust me enough to do this then you can always hit the Donate button linked to my XDA profile.
Just make sure you leave a note on your donation telling me what the money is meant to be used for.
If enough money accumulates for a amazon.de order of an P2, then I can just straight out buy a development device there.
That is the beauty of XDA though, if enough people want it, and each of those people dishes out 5-10 bucks, then financing something like this is easy.
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If you trust me enough to do this then you can always hit the Donate button linked to my XDA profile.
Just make sure you leave a note on your donation telling me what the money is meant to be used for.
If enough money accumulates for a amazon.de order of an P2, then I can just straight out buy a development device there.
That is the beauty of XDA though, if enough people want it, and each of those people dishes out 5-10 bucks, then financing something like this is easy.
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Let's see if we are able to ,but I don't think there are enough people to contribute.We will have to wait for a new developer.Hope he comes soon....
Your zuk z1 is in working condition?I mean you use it or not?
I would spend 20 bucks.
Maybe we should do a survey to see how many would follow
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Let's see if we are able to ,but I don't think there are enough people to contribute.We will have to wait for a new developer.Hope he comes soon....
Your zuk z1 is in working condition?I mean you use it or not?
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It's working fine and is currently in the possession of my wife.
Although I must admit she isn't the easiest-going woman and the device has seen its fair share of scruff marks since I've handed it over to her.
Hey why start from scratch when we have almost stable builds... Just ask permission for maintainer or just fork the changes. We already have a couple of working ROMs that are risk free. If you could, then try developing on it. Improve it.
Like everyone said raising money for a device is very difficult and slow. Try making modifications to the official RR or unofficial LOS. You'll receive donations for that I'm pretty sure you will.
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Hey why start from scratch when we have almost stable builds... Just ask permission for maintainer or just fork the changes. We already have a couple of working ROMs that are risk free. If you could, then try developing on it. Improve it.
Like everyone said raising money for a device is very difficult and slow. Try making modifications to the official RR or unofficial LOS. You'll receive donations for that I'm pretty sure you will.
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Very well said ,this makes more sense. Why do extra work when wzedlare and eypCnn worked for 3 months,just continue from that.And they have already said that any developer can continue from their work. :good:
Yep, sad to see a great phone like the P2 no longer have any development on XDA
Having said that the latest Nougat stock ROM is pretty good, especially in its deodexed version, and rooted. Some tweaks are missing though, like Ambient Display (is there really no way to add that with an APK ?) and customization of the pressed on the HOME button (like double-press). Now that the source code is out would it take a lot of work for a developer to add some of these tweaks ?
Okay the two Turkish devs we had left, but this is going nowhere. While donations are always appreciated asking for money to continue the development is a matter of bad taste imo. I can try to continue the Resurrection Remix builds. Also porting roms from Redmi Note 4X (SD625) should be pretty easy as the hardware is very similar. I had ported thousands of roms for Oukitel K6000 Pro, I was the first who brought Nougat to this phone (Dec 2016, when the official Nougat arrived 5 months later) and then back in time the community was in the same position lacking development so I was just driven to try it by myself. After all source code and device tree are all there, almost anyone with a basic knowledge and free time can build a rom. Give it time and I'm sure that new devs will appear.
Meanwhile I opened a new test builds thread
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Okay the two Turkish devs we had left, but this is going nowhere. While donations are always appreciated asking for money to continue the development is a matter of bad taste imo. I can try to continue the Resurrection Remix builds. Also porting roms from Redmi Note 4X (SD625) should be pretty easy as the hardware is very similar. I had ported thousands of roms for Oukitel K6000 Pro, I was the first who brought Nougat to this phone (Dec 2016, when the official Nougat arrived 5 months later) and then back in time the community was in the same position lacking development so I was just driven to try it by myself. After all source code and device tree are all there, almost anyone with a basic knowledge and free time can build a rom. Give it time and I'm sure that new devs will appear.
Meanwhile I opened a new test builds thread
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It is easy to port from Redmi 4.I know it because I ported some roms in the past.
Take etc/firmware from p2.
Take kernel(zimage) from p2
Take fstab.qcom and ueventd.qcom.rc from p2.Then it will boot but you will have a lot of bugs.It is nice to see someone hustling for a rom.If you want to port from redmi note 4, you should also take whole /vendor folder.Good luck.
Folks,
for those who may or may not know, my name is sooti, i've been a dev here building Android since 2012. I've build roms for galaxy s1, s2, s5, LG G3, Nexus 10 and more. In all of the device communities I've worked in, the majority of devs were nice, caring and were open to sharing the knowledge and helping out if needed, and I was always willing to do the same and have on many occasions. I have never hidden my work and have always immediately committed my solutions to github to help others develop faster and help the community grow, but since I got my Xiaomi A1 I've met a whole new brand of developers, who only care about getting credit and glory, have no interest in helping their fellow devs and even if and when they do, they force them to keep the code to themselves as well.
I will not name any names, but I think you can guess who, I am part of a team of devs, TEAM OREO, who have been working on our own to bring a fully working dt to the public and keep it open source, while another group has a fully working open source and is insisting on keeping the device tree to themselves. and while this doesn't violate Android rules per say, it violates the very spirit of AOSP and of XDA more then anything. We may understand companies like Xiaomi, Samsung, LG etc not sharing the rest of their source code due to monetary concerns but here at xda none of us are getting paid for our time, we are all working together to bring great projects to life for free for all to enjoy and modify and build new roms.
It really saddens me to see this and hope this is limited to this device only, although I suspect there may be some other XIaomi devices with the same bad devs.
My team and I will continue to work hard to bring you great roms and 100% open source so that you to can contribute and help this community grow.
We are currently looking for devs to help us get Camera working, which is the only thing missing, please contact me via PM and we will add you to our telegram group.
I hope to see better things in the future,
viva open source!
Sooti,
XDA developer and android enthusiast
We are also looking for testers. If you are interested, please ping me on Telegram. Make sure you know basic stuffs like taking logcat n all ?.
Regards,
#TEAMOREO
Thanks for all the work you have done for the community. I'm proud of the work TEAM OREO is bringing for the Mi A1 community and as a contributor to open source myself, I wish every other developer for the device would follow suit. I know this is just the beginning of the development phase of the device but I'm sure that other developers that will work on the phone will probably see your post and agree wholeheartedly. As a community, we must work together. There's no doubt that some people want all the praise and thanks from everyone. That's not how open source works. We aim to provide enhancements to our devices that the manufacturers are not able to give. And helping provide open trees for all is key.
I'm not giving up on the community. But I really want it to flourish. Thanks for all of your help in making this device one of the best I've ever owned.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A1 using XDA Labs
It's the same story, again and again...
It's like the www. Today is only money.
It's like the way the world is going.
Well it's not the first time i have seen this private stuff nature.... i had it in my old device ...
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Yes I agree truly
TeamOreo will sure make bugless ROM soon
I have never seen such developers in my life who worked at late night to fix bugs @sooti @kunalshah @pranavbedre these guys worked very hard to bring initial Oreo
Hope this team gonna rock one day
Keep going and let's hope there's a valid reason behind for not releasing DT as of now.Looking forward for more ROMs TeamOreo!
@sooti
You and team oreo are here, so it's not so bad!
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Point made, but this thread has only one direction of travel on it and its not a good one.
Thread re-opened at OP request.
However, i have cleaned the thread and if this thread goes the way i expect i will close it for good.
Greg
You guys have no rights to ask for the source when you won't contribute anything to the source. All you guys are going to do is use it for other ROMs which will end up having the same bugs as the current LOS builds. So here's my two cents, wait till everything is stable, SELinux enforcing and then the source will be available to the public as Abhishek has said.
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You guys have no rights to ask for the source when you won't contribute anything to the source. All you guys are going to do is use it for other ROMs which will end up having the same bugs as the current LOS builds. So here's my two cents, wait till everything is stable, SELinux enforcing and then the source will be available to the public as Abhishek has said.
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Give them some respect dude...they aren't some amateurs trying to copy form some elses work they have already published their tree and where is tree of los15.1 ?
All other roms have their trees published which helps other developers to fix the bugs and help the rom become stable.but if every one wants to keep the glory and credit for themselves the community will get worser and worser
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Give them some respect dude...they aren't some amateurs trying to copy form some elses work they have already published their tree and where is tree of los15.1 ?
All other roms have their trees published which helps other developers to fix the bugs and help the rom become stable.but if every one wants to keep the glory and credit for themselves the community will get worser and worser
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This.
And if someones device tree isnt ready, why post the rom at all? And your welcome to look at my xda profile, if you think I haven't contributed... Your dead wring my friend
Sorry if my words have hurt you in anyway. I just don't want this community to end .
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Sorry if my words have hurt you in anyway. I just don't want this community to end .
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Your ok, I was actually talking to the guys before you
I came over from the axon 7 forums about a week ago. i have been on the boards and dealing with android since the days of the logitech review {honeycomb i believe}. my take on the maturity here contravenes the gungho nature I have generally observed on this message board. it reminds me of what I imagine a 50 cent water army would act like when not in the office. i normally just sit in the back and observe read and learn as I go but since this is turning into group conflict it is my place to speak up. Sooti, guys I am with you in seeing the same sad state of affaira. this is definately not how civilization is built. but worse case scenario if spoilers at the table opt for self-interest over interest of the community, thereby causing entropy and disintigration, you will be able to find me over on the cyrillic android board with base in .ru they have good comraderie generally and thats across device forums as far as I can observe.
Thanks for bringing that up front straight. I came over as a user from Galaxy S devices in the hope that the MI A1 would flourish on a free and open (source) community spirit. Unfortunately things are even worse here. I don't have the time to contribute as a developer but I'd like you guys to know that I'm very thankful for your team's openess and your effort to bring true open source to this device and not let personal intrests and politics get in the way.
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Folks,
for those who may or may not know, my name is sooti, i've been a dev here building Android since 2012. I've build roms for galaxy s1, s2, s5, LG G3, Nexus 10 and more. In all of the device communities I've worked in, the majority of devs were nice, caring and were open to sharing the knowledge and helping out if needed, and I was always willing to do the same and have on many occasions. I have never hidden my work and have always immediately committed my solutions to github to help others develop faster and help the community grow, but since I got my Xiaomi A1 I've met a whole new brand of developers, who only care about getting credit and glory, have no interest in helping their fellow devs and even if and when they do, they force them to keep the code to themselves as well.
I will not name any names, but I think you can guess who, I am part of a team of devs, TEAM OREO, who have been working on our own to bring a fully working dt to the public and keep it open source, while another group has a fully working open source and is insisting on keeping the device tree to themselves. and while this doesn't violate Android rules per say, it violates the very spirit of AOSP and of XDA more then anything. We may understand companies like Xiaomi, Samsung, LG etc not sharing the rest of their source code due to monetary concerns but here at xda none of us are getting paid for our time, we are all working together to bring great projects to life for free for all to enjoy and modify and build new roms.
It really saddens me to see this and hope this is limited to this device only, although I suspect there may be some other XIaomi devices with the same bad devs.
My team and I will continue to work hard to bring you great roms and 100% open source so that you to can contribute and help this community grow.
We are currently looking for devs to help us get Camera working, which is the only thing missing, please contact me via PM and we will add you to our telegram group.
I hope to see better things in the future,
viva open source!
Sooti,
XDA developer and android enthusiast
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Hey I've known @abhishek987 from Redmi Note 3 forums and he's contributed greatly to LOS for the device and developed one of the most stable ROM(Ressurection Remix) on RN3.
So give him some time, like said earlier he's holding it until the bugs are ironed out. So many ROM threads already created with the same bugs, what's the point.
He's working hard on our device and not asking for any money. Give him space
iG0tB0lts said:
Hey I've known @abhishek987 from Redmi Note 3 forums and he's contributed greatly to LOS for the device and developed one of the most stable ROM(Ressurection Remix) on RN3.
So give him some time, like said earlier he's holding it until the bugs are ironed out. So many ROM threads already created with the same bugs, what's the point.
He's working hard on our device and not asking for any money. Give him space
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And not letting the other devs to work in the tree? So two groups doing the same job twice? Do you find any logic in it?
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And not letting the other devs to work in the tree? So two groups doing the same job twice? Do you find any logic in it?
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True. I thought the same just after posting. Well anyway, lets hope for good
Hello to all.
First, let me say that I am opening this thread with good attitude and in no way I disrespect the hard work from the guys that provide ROMS for our device. But I need to point out a few things in short.
My impression over the months with this device has been a mix of feelings.
I am sorry if I am missing crucial stuff that are behind the doors of development but my feeling as a member in XDA over so many years, is that Mi A1 developers lack seriously in communication and teamwork.
I am tired lately to see Pie ROMS going from bad to worse and crucial functions of the phone to go into the bug list.
Fingerprint - LTE bands - Playstore safety integrity and many more that everyone can read all over the place.
I have also noticed that most devs want to showoff more on the appearance side of the phone rather than stability-battery life and solid most used apps function.
95% of the users want 4 things mostly and these are the ones to focus
1) no battery drain
2) a decent camera app with no problems since hardware delivers
3) fingerprint functionality
4) other sensors working with no conflicts
I just want to point out the lack of communication and teamwork over serious matters. You solve these first then you customize ROMS to the needs you want to cover.
So many bugged ROMS and literally 0 bug-free rom.
Please be thorough on the discussion and don't flame over devs work. Just discuss how we can solve the problems and get finally a decent bug-free ROM.
Take this crap out
I would like to see a non-dev try to make a ROM and hear this feedback and see how they react to it.
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I would like to see a non-dev try to make a ROM and hear this feedback and see how they react to it.
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dunno why you take it the hard way. I have expressed my gratitude for ROM devs and I always appreciate your hard work and give feedback whenever I can.
your reply is showing disgrace to average users. Ok so we are not into developing ROMS. we are just testing and using your efforts. why does that have to be something to point out in a bad way?
I am just pointing out that we have so many ROM releases every 2-3 weeks and the results are buggier and buggier ROMS.
You clearly see that Pie stage has brought to all devs problems. Instead of releasing every 2 weeks ROMS individually , why don't you try to discuss together the main problems, find solutions and then try to implement the solutions to your ROMS.
Instead of teamwork over serious bugs, you just focus each on your own work with minor fixes over different builds and every Xiaomi update refreshes the same problems again and again.
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Would you help out if someone needed your expertise?
Something to add that worries me more.
greekfragma said:
dunno why you take it the hard way. I have expressed my gratitude for ROM devs and I always appreciate your hard work and give feedback whenever I can.
your reply is showing disgrace to average users. Ok so we are not into developing ROMS. we are just testing and using your efforts. why does that have to be something to point out in a bad way?
I am just pointing out that we have so many ROM releases every 2-3 weeks and the results are buggier and buggier ROMS.
You clearly see that Pie stage has brought to all devs problems. Instead of releasing every 2 weeks ROMS individually , why don't you try to discuss together the main problems, find solutions and then try to implement the solutions to your ROMS.
Instead of teamwork over serious bugs, you just focus each on your own work with minor fixes over different builds and every Xiaomi update refreshes the same problems again and again.
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See the problem here is other devs don't want to cooperate. Me, Abhi and Moun are actually conversing regarding how to fix the bugs. Flex and Khusika help out too but they're too busy at times. Other devs keep their resources closed and don't share device trees which in turn gives out more bugs instead of allowing all ROMs to have similar fixes altogether. I'm not replying in a bad light. I'm actually curious what a non-dev would react to all complaints knowing other devs wouldn't help out and cooperate.
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Would you help out if someone needed your expertise?
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I answer mostly on Telegram and yes, I give assistance to people asking for help when I have the time.
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See the problem here is other devs don't want to cooperate. Me, Abhi and Moun are actually conversing regarding how to fix the bugs. Flex and Khusika help out too but they're too busy at times. Other devs keep their resources closed and don't share device trees which in turn gives out more bugs instead of allowing all ROMs to have similar fixes altogether. I'm not replying in a bad light. I'm actually curious what a non-dev would react to all complaints knowing other devs wouldn't help out and cooperate.
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this is exactly why this thread has started.
I find the lack of cooperation has a direct impact on the community results and it clearly shows as I stated above. If you guys think you have to say something publicly about others compromising your work you should do it. The community has eyes and sees which devs really try to help the community and which devs are clearly for their own profit.
can you also comment on the picture I attached on previous post?
greekfragma said:
this is exactly why this thread has started.
I find the lack of cooperation has a direct impact on the community results and it clearly shows as I stated above. If you guys think you have to say something publicly about others compromising your work you should do it. The community has eyes and sees which devs really try to help the community and which devs are clearly for their own profit.
can you also comment on the picture I attached on previous post?
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I don't wanna mention names as I can no longer speak regarding the issues between me and some other developer in the community. All I can say right now is I'm taking over Official Pixel Experience while Abhi gets his Mi A1's motherboard replaced.
I found this...
greekfragma said:
this is exactly why this thread has started.
I find the lack of cooperation has a direct impact on the community results and it clearly shows as I stated above. If you guys think you have to say something publicly about others compromising your work you should do it. The community has eyes and sees which devs really try to help the community and which devs are clearly for their own profit.
can you also comment on the picture I attached on previous post?
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There's surely some great and cooperative devs. I have had some kind of interaction with Maun, CosmicDan and flex who were really helpful along the way! I was just halfway through developing my own kernel! And then I had to cancel the project for my illness and lack of knowledge about development! And yes, I couldn't even setup a build environment myself! Maun sincerely helped me on that! When I was successful building 2-3 revision then I got the mental illness along with physical illness! So, although I had the passion of learning and developing Android things, I had to abandon my project! At least for the time being! But there's another reason behind it! There's so much advanced kernels already there! I am even seeing 4.9s (I worked on the 3.18s)! So why I would release another ill-developed/built kernel?!? So I kept it to myself!
But the thing is despite being genius and genuinely helpful devs, they can't always be that helpful! As they got other things in life!
But what you and joey pointed out is very disappointed thing! It always doesn't need to all about yourself (those devs you are talking about) like most of this post of mine!
But if you leave them behind, you'll find that Xiaomi is trying to cause every possible problem as they always do!
So, adapting to these changes eventually takes time! I myself needed approximately one and a half month just to add spectrum support even with help! Couldn't even release that version for some anomaly and random reboots!
But I am not a real developer! Never claimed to be!
But making the source closed?!? That's too far! I have no idea what they are trying to do!
BTW, I was hauling for the front camera RAW capture bug on Oreo! (And that's the reason behind my working for a kernel! I knew it's stupid and premature!) But someone told me it's not possible for a mid range phone! But now in Pie, it can capture RAW images with the front camera on every camera2 apps! First I noticed on Serjo87 build! (That's the first GCam app I used on Pie) And I thought it was Serjo87 who could make it! But soon I realized that every other apps can do the same!
So the summary of the story is, they are too focused on their own things despite being helpful or they are not willing to share their fixes simply because they don't want to or is it because can't communicate for their own business!
But again, closing the sources is just...
Even some members/devs will focus and complain about my ending every sentence with an exclamation (!) rather than focusing on the bugs causing constant problems to the userbase!
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BTW, I was hauling for the front camera RAW capture bug on Oreo! (And that's the reason behind my working for a kernel! I knew it's stupid and premature!) But someone told me it's not possible for a mid range phone! But now in Pie, it can capture RAW images with the front camera on every camera2 apps! First I noticed on Serjo87 build! (That's the first GCam app I used on Pie) And I thought it was Serjo87 who could make it! But soon I realized that every other apps can do the same!
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Can other raw camera app can capture raw with front cam in 9? Other than gcam? Without green tint?
In my opinion porting 4.9 Kernel to Mi A1 was a big and remarkable success, but it has introduced more bugs to fix.
I don't see a huge difference in terms of performance and battery life.
Newer custom ROMs are on 4.9 kernel, so I had to lose ALL apps using HAL1 camera (mainly stock camera).
I'd like to see a fully customizable ROM with 3.18 Kernel and bug-free, but i don't think it's available at this moment.
Just my 2 cents.
sipollo said:
In my opinion porting 4.9 Kernel to Mi A1 was a big and remarkable success, but it has introduced more bugs to fix.
I don't see a huge difference in terms of performance and battery life.
Newer custom ROMs are on 4.9 kernel, so I had to lose ALL apps using HAL1 camera (mainly stock camera).
I'd like to see a fully customizable ROM with 3.18 Kernel and bug-free, but i don't think it's available at this moment.
Just my 2 cents.
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This. Despite all the ROM threads, only 1 or 2 Pie ROM's can be used as daily drivers. Almost all the 4.9 ROM's need latest FW which is breaking features like VoLTE, Fingerprint etc (This is due to Xiaomi's fault and I know that too). I was more than satisfied with the Oreo ROM's but I haven't been able to go back after using Pie. From all the ROM's I have flashed only Bootleggers Pie ROM, which has some bugs which are tolerable, and Revenge OS Pie (which I'm using right now, but it lacks customizations) are completely stable (on November Firmware).
I'm just waiting for Xiaomi to fix the mess they have caused so I can settle on a 4.9 kernel ROM. I don't care about HAL1, I only use GCam.
Yes!
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Can other raw camera app can capture raw with front cam in 9? Other than gcam? Without green tint?
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Open Camera and it's forks are confirmed!
GCam 5.x.x also confirmed!
GCam 6.x.x confirmed but has green tint on of them!
BTW, you may know it, GCam 5.x.x don't have green tint on front cam! I use Arnova and fu24 versions!
I am gonna repost this here with the permission of @joeyhuab
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78681040&postcount=132
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Just a heads up. PE team has removed Tissot Pie from the official list of devices. Their team is really dedicated to dropping Tissot support due to Saksham having Abhi kicked from PE Maintainers group due to having a broken device while Saksham himself no longer has a Mi A1.
I don't really see why Abhinav being kicked was a proper thing to do as he will still have his Tissot repaired while the guy that got him kicked from the PE maintainers group asks for donations to "start" development on another device (daisy/fajita).
I'm not one to comment on this whole thing but it's really getting out of hand and I no longer want to be associated with their dev team until this debacle is resolved. I will stick to building unofficial builds while Official status for Tissot is up in the air as we really don't know what Jhenrique and friends want to decide to do.
I don't want any part of the official status any longer after what they did to Abhinav.
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what a mess
Tissot lost another developer. I quit.
It's not something that could be remedied easily. Tissot developers going away from this simply means that not everything is as good as it might look. Despite some success with 4.9 kernel, some devs are having a hard time fixing some issues, which might seem to be obvious. That for sure brings anxiety and frustration for one, since after so much time being able to fix one really small issue (looking from a practical standpoint) brings dissapointment. I don't complain, since I no longer develop anything, reason being for that is simple - no time left to spare for that. Maybe one day I'll get to that, once I settle down some of my personal concerns, which are holding me back.
I respect every developer doing this job for a better cause and contributing to others, because they want it so. And those, who continously complain about everything shouldn't even be here in the first place. Nothing is perfect, ever. If someone is willing to do something here, rather than complain about everything - do something useful, contribute in some way or another, it's just the way I got into development, being totally green and unaware of so many things. Starting from small steps and going up with every minute ticking. Live and learn.
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Tissot lost another developer. I quit.
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@joeyhuab I am pretty sad about your decision but I have to respect it.
If it is possible to give us some information of what went wrong and you also decided to quit. Only the facts and just the facts. No intention to argue.
I am not sure if there is anyone out there willing to continue your efforts.
If there is no hope I will completely understand and will no further comment on this thread. It just seems kinda weird since this device had so much potential on hardware specs and Pie releases were very impressive until latest month.
I hope for the best in the near future and feel free to contact me through private messages if you want to discuss further.
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@joeyhuab I am pretty sad about your decision but I have to respect it.
If it is possible to give us some information of what went wrong and you also decided to quit. Only the facts and just the facts. No intention to argue.
I am not sure if there is anyone out there willing to continue your efforts.
If there is no hope I will completely understand and will no further comment on this thread. It just seems kinda weird since this device had so much potential on hardware specs and Pie releases were very impressive until latest month.
I hope for the best in the near future and feel free to contact me through private messages if you want to discuss further.
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One guy ruined it for me. That's all I can comment.
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One guy ruined it for me. That's all I can comment.
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I understand your decision. It is really hard to feel that such a capable phone is being dropped from PE support.I firstly flashed the rom when Saksham was the dev of PE. I liked it so much, I could not go to stock ever again.But it feels like a punch to see 3 devs dropping update support, and letting a capable phone with thousands of people flashing it drop in the void. Now I need to go back to stock, worse version of Android..It's my only option because I'm scared to flash another custom rom on my non-trebelized Tissot.
Your updates were so fast, felt stable and with necessary features.It really turned a Tissot into Pixel 3.
I feel sad for this mess that happened throughout 4 months.I never expected such a good dev like you leaving tissot, but it's your decision and I can't change it.
How to return to Xiaomi stock android 9.0 (no firmware flashed in TWRP with PE rom, no treble, bootloader unlocked)?
Goodbye, Pixel Experience....It felt so good to have a Pixel 3 in my hands, but it was suddenly dropped into void....
You will always remain in my heart, 16th january 2019 build, you will always remain in my mind, devs, for your great work throughout those 4 beautiful months.
Thank you...
This has been my daily driver from when it started... Now seeing the that Pixel Experience will no longer receive any update! It feels so sad now! Please.... Someone keep it alive!
Keep patience, and donate some value to Henrique, to support RN5Pro support.
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Keep patience, and donate some value to Henrique, to support RN5Pro support.
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Honestly, i dont think someone should. This community doesnt deserve this lol. Why would someone spend their time, only to get bothered with nonsense questions, requests, demands all the time. Get blamed for bugs, which arent even rom fault, never get any logs etc etc.. I could continue this list on and on and on. 80% of users here are ungrateful noobs that cant even read OP or last 3 posts, not even talking about using search function. So yeah, i dont wish that to any dev. Thats all my for my rant.
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Honestly, i dont think someone should. This community doesnt deserve this lol. Why would someone spend their time, only to get bothered with nonsense questions, requests, demands all the time. Get blamed for bugs, which arent even rom fault, never get any logs etc etc.. I could continue this list on and on and on. 80% of users here are ungrateful noobs that cant even read OP or last 3 posts, not even talking about using search function. So yeah, i dont wish that to any dev. Thats all my for my rant.
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You said it: 80% are ungrateful. That means that 20% correctly thank the work of @jhenrique09 . Please dev, continue your great work for that 20% of people in this community.
Just to say i will greatly miss this rom too...
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Honestly, i dont think someone should. This community doesnt deserve this lol. Why would someone spend their time, only to get bothered with nonsense questions, requests, demands all the time. Get blamed for bugs, which arent even rom fault, never get any logs etc etc.. I could continue this list on and on and on. 80% of users here are ungrateful noobs that cant even read OP or last 3 posts, not even talking about using search function. So yeah, i dont wish that to any dev. Thats all my for my rant.
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I agree with you too! They always complain about useless stuff! But please!!! It's absurd but I've fallen in love with Pixel Experience! And if there's no further update.... I don't think I'll switch to any other rom either! PE is just sooo awesome! And ...again I understand what you say, but believe me.... There are some who genuinely appreciate all Devs works! And love to use their products! Anyways... I still hope a resurrection of PE someday ?
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Just to say i will greatly miss this rom too...
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Same mate!
+1... It was best ROM for Whyred
Just move one. There is lots of ROM out there don't know why people freaking about it lol.
Here's what Whyred XDA Community deserve.
Community really never helped the developer Who has developed the rom without the device (and yes, it was painfull for him with 300 reported problems and zero logs).
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Just move one. There is lots of ROM out there don't know why people freaking about it lol.
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been using many rom, on many devices and for many years now.
This one was for me on whyred the most stable (or the most quickly fixed), keeping battery pretty good and with a good concept. I even used it on other devices since i liked it a lot.
That's the reason why it bother us.
the dev made a great job maintaining this ROM and was updating it regularly. for the first time i consider staying on a ROM that is potentially no more developped
The best custom rom, it's custom but it's cleanest
If you ever wonder why devs struggle to find motivation to work for the community, just find the first Pie FW update from henrique in PE thread and read the posts until the last page. Despite the fact that it was clearly noted to update firmware to Pie version and it was written how to do it, there were 4-5 pages per day (not posts, PAGES) filled with questions:
- bootloop, help pls
- can't flash, error in twrp
- how to update
Literally.
And that's everything you need to know about Whyred community.
1- If the rom is stable, you can live without updates.
2- José is "back", he bought a new whyred.
onliner said:
1- If the rom is stable, you can live without updates.
2- José is "back", he bought a new whyred.
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Yeah... If people just explore the forum more and do what he says to do... There wouldn't be any problems... The fill pages writing about questions. And it isn't a sign of wit! But PE is like love for a few people! And I eagerly want it comes back!
Never bothered to update my PE (december 5 rom) since it came out. Is running as smoothly as can be, so why mess with a good thing? Will probably keep it until next device, maybe next year.
Is there an archive with the older pixel experience roms and their respective changelogs somewhere?
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Never bothered to update my PE (december 5 rom) since it came out. Is running as smoothly as can be, so why mess with a good thing? Will probably keep it until next device, maybe next year.
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The latest update has much more features, there May be more coming. Plus, security updates.
Sent from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 using XDA Labs
The developers must link their jobs, social life etc. with making great roms. They need to sacrifice their free time to maintain the rom, fix the problems they encounter with debugging and people complain because they almost never read OP. Without thanking the dev, supporting him, what kind of monsters have this community become? Asking simple questions, which they just can search in like 5 seconds to find an answer... Shame on those people, may they regret now what've they done.
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Here's what Whyred XDA Community deserve.
Community really never helped the developer Who has developed the rom without the device (and yes, it was painfull for him with 300 reported problems and zero logs).
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Most of the devs are stopping because of the annoyances of the users, even more when the person does not have a device, it gets worse.