Question Weather complications not updating - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

I find that my weather complication on my watch face is not updating even though I have all the settings correct to allow it to do so. I have enabled allow access all times on battery, no optimizing Etc. Has anybody else faced this problem and fixed it successfully? Thank you

check a different watchface.... and see if it's the same
if it is then it's the watchface problem.
a good starting point...to investigate

Thanks I will try that

cwb1231 said:
I find that my weather complication on my watch face is not updating even though I have all the settings correct to allow it to do so. I have enabled allow access all times on battery, no optimizing Etc. Has anybody else faced this problem and fixed it successfully? Thank you
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I read somewhere (Samsung I think) having the weather on your phone set to not optimized and even a weather widget on the home screen will help if not solve the issue. I personally don't use the weather widget but having the weather app on the phone run in the background with full location permissions helps a lot. I don't have location on the watch turned on I let it rely on the phone for that, as I always have my phone with me. (LTE version of the watch 4 non classic, if it matters).

I actually tried all of that but it hasn't worked so far. I'm trying a new watch face and seeing if the update Works through that. Thanks

The Weather tile for me NEVER changes location automatically. It just adds the location I'm at then stays there unless I delete it and readd current location

Same problem, i can't use the weather app, and when it tries to open it on my phone, The Galaxy Wear App just crashes. I think it's because I don't use the weather on my samsung, and maybe even desactive the weather app but not sure about this, that was like 2 years ago

Also have the same problem on the weather app and weather tile, can't find my location.....I don't have samsung smartphone, but I already check and allow location for wearable app, watch 4 plugin on the phone and also check and allow location for weather app on the watch and activate location on it.....µBut nothing to di, I can't update weather.....
Someone have a working solution for this, cause it's really anoying , thisnis one of the integrated feature I can't launch correctly.....

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Weather Widget doesn't auto-refresh

The stock weather widget never auto-refreshes even though I have that option checked.
Figure there's nothing I can do about it but use another widget, just wanted to note it here so others know they are not alone with this issue.
what checkbox? touch the widget to bring up the app. then do menu>settings. now choose auto refresh. mine is set to one hour and is working fine.
shansmi said:
what checkbox? touch the widget to bring up the app. then do menu>settings. now choose auto refresh. mine is set to one hour and is working fine.
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OK, so it's a radio button instead of a checkbox
I have it set to auto-refresh every hour and it doesn't work for me.
Good to know it works for someone though..
do you have auto sync and background data turned on?
shansmi said:
do you have auto sync and background data turned on?
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Yes, it's on.
So I noticed today it is refreshing against the current location however the location is not changing as I move around. Is that what you are saying?
My stock (accuweather) app is also auto-refreshing. I've never had a problem with it.
But my stock news (ap mobile) only just tonight started to auto-refresh. Right after I changed it from 5-second auto-scroll to 10-second auto-scroll. And while now it auto-refreshes, it no longer auto-scrolls.
Both apps have always been set to auto refresh.
I have the same issue on my original GSII. I've removed a lot of stock apps (safe ones, of course). But perhaps one contributes to/interacts with the refresh in some way? Any ideas?

Location icon constantly in status bar on Lollipop ?

Is it normal for the GPS status icon to always be present in the right side of the status bar on Lollipop (V5.02)?
Location is enabled and is set to high accuracy. No apps are running (or present in the recent apps list) that make constant use of the GPS (IE: Maps).
I'm curious if this is normal behavior on this device. I have 3 other devices to compare to that have the same apps and location settings :
- Galaxy S3 -- Icon is always present when location is enabled (Android 4.4)
- Nexus 5 -- Icon only appears when an app requests use of the GPS (Android 5.1.1)
- Nexus 9 -- Icon only appears when an app requests use of the GPS (Android 5.1.1)
the.teejster said:
Is it normal for the GPS status icon to always be present in the right side of the status bar ?
Location is enabled and is set to high accuracy. No apps are running (or present in the recent apps list) that make constant use of the GPS (IE: Maps).
I'm curious if this is normal behavior on this device. I have 3 other devices to compare to that have the same apps and location settings :
- Galaxy S3 -- Icon is always present when location is enabled (Android 4.4)
- Nexus 5 -- Icon only appears when an app requests use of the GPS (Android 5.1.1)
- Nexus 9 -- Icon only appears when an app requests use of the GPS (Android 5.1.1)
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It does not turn off automatically unless you are running an app to do so. My battery saver app lets you specify a list of apps that need gps...when I run the app it turns on gps...when the app exits it turns gps off. There is also a free version of it..search for "Greeenpower"...it does require root for an app to toggle gps under lollipop.
Thanks for the reply but I didn't think that applied to Android V4.x and UP.
You are supposed to be able to keep your location toggle set on ON all the time and Android is supposed to only enable it when an app requests it.. I can clearly see this behaviour on both my Nexus devices running lollipop.
Since this phone is as close to stock android as I've ever seen I'm wondering if anyone else is observing the same behaviour I am or if else might be keeping it forced on unknowingly.
famewolf said:
It does not turn off automatically unless you are running an app to do so. My battery saver app lets you specify a list of apps that need gps...when I run the app it turns on gps...when the app exits it turns gps off. There is also a free version of it..search for "Greeenpower"...it does require root for an app to toggle gps under lollipop.
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the.teejster said:
Thanks for the reply but I didn't think that applied to Android V4.x and UP.
You are supposed to be able to keep your location toggle set on ON all the time and Android is supposed to only enable it when an app requests it.. I can clearly see this behaviour on both my Nexus devices running lollipop.
Since this phone is as close to stock android as I've ever seen I'm wondering if anyone else is observing the same behaviour I am or if else might be keeping it forced on unknowingly.
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Mine is also constantly on.
Macklessdaddy said:
Mine is also constantly on.
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Mine is constantly on, like now.
the.teejster said:
Thanks for the reply but I didn't think that applied to Android V4.x and UP.
You are supposed to be able to keep your location toggle set on ON all the time and Android is supposed to only enable it when an app requests it.. I can clearly see this behaviour on both my Nexus devices running lollipop.
Since this phone is as close to stock android as I've ever seen I'm wondering if anyone else is observing the same behaviour I am or if else might be keeping it forced on unknowingly.
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Well no offense but yours must be magic then cause I own both a nexus 4 and 5 and the gps doesn't turn off unless you or an app turns it off...same with bluetooth and wifi for that matter.
famewolf said:
Well no offense but yours must be magic then cause I own both a nexus 4 and 5 and the gps doesn't turn off unless you or an app turns it off...same with bluetooth and wifi for that matter.
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I don't think he means it turns off in the settings. But the location active icon in the status bar only comes on when an app is actively using it. My nexus 4 does this. The idol the icon is always there.
IMO, its probably just a software GUI change that Alcatel did. Unless it is draining the battery more than usual.
Non taken .. LOL..
Bluetooth and Wifi, when on do constantly show up on my nexus devices..
Location icon however, on stock lollipop will only appear when the GPS actually is in use. IE: It will appear when I load up google maps and disappear when I turn it off (on stock 5.1.1 on nexus 5 and 9).
I thought this was a feature baked into lollipop which is why I was asking. But from I'm hearing it's not.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply.. much appreciated.
BTW:
Looks like it's default behavior on at least one other device:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...t-appear-in-statusbar-on-lollipop/td-p/975946
Location
famewolf said:
Well no offense but yours must be magic then cause I own both a nexus 4 and 5 and the gps doesn't turn off unless you or an app turns it off...same with bluetooth and wifi for that matter.
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Maybe there is a secret Chinese system app that is continually tracking you with location? Haha
I was concerned about this too, and looked into it, I can 100% confirm that it's a software change. On the stock Idol 3 ROM, the location icon in the task bar merely shows that location is on, NOT THAT GPS is active.
If you're skeptical, download a GPS monitor app (some available without root, better ones available with root). You can confirm for yourself that the GPS monitor pings each and every time you use a location-based app (map, weather, etc), but not otherwise, even though the location icon is on.
It's constantly on for my Idol 3, but not my Moto X with CM 12.1.
A fix for this problem, if you have Xposed installed:
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.xinlu.location_icon_fix
polygonal said:
A fix for this problem, if you have Xposed installed:
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.xinlu.location_icon_fix
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Very nice! Thanks for creating the module! Out of curiosity do you get the popup every time you install an app or module to select whether to install to internal, external or let the system decide?
famewolf said:
Very nice! Thanks for creating the module! Out of curiosity do you get the popup every time you install an app or module to select whether to install to internal, external or let the system decide?
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Yes, I do. If I remember correctly, this started to happen around the time of the last update from Alcatel?
polygonal said:
Yes, I do. If I remember correctly, this started to happen around the time of the last update from Alcatel?
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Thanks for the reply. Nice to know it's not just MY phone. On my 6045i it's been happening quite a while if not from the beginning but it's very annoying as I have not yet found a way to disable it. Even running "pm set-install-location" from a shell doesn't stop the popup. Normally the setting would be under settings, apps or settings, storage but doesn't appear to be.
I'd compare this to some manufacturers adding an NFC icon. They think the user wants to know (all the time) if a setting is on or off.
the icon appears for me always; even after I turn location OFF in the settings...
so is it a bug or is it on purpose?
i've noticed if you turn off the location and then back on, the icon doesn't show up until something does request location, but then after that the icon stays there forever
ps. i'm glad i found this thread i thought i was going crazy
Thanks for the module.
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I was concerned about this too, and looked into it, I can 100% confirm that it's a software change. On the stock Idol 3 ROM, the location icon in the task bar merely shows that location is on, NOT THAT GPS is active.
If you're skeptical, download a GPS monitor app (some available without root, better ones available with root). You can confirm for yourself that the GPS monitor pings each and every time you use a location-based app (map, weather, etc), but not otherwise, even though the location icon is on.
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Please, could you suggest an app for GPS monitoring? I'm on a Xperia M4 Aqua Android 5.0.2 and facing the same problem. It's driving me crazy...

Fighting the power! (management)

Is it just me or this phone (or at least the CN RMX2071 roms) are super aggressive in closing apps? I know it's a general theme with "custom" (non aosp) based ROMs and most vendor UI takes, but it feels really really broken in these phones.
I have to keep the phone in "high performance" mode and even then i have to re-run some apps every other day (Nova launcher's google companion app) and even re-add widgets (Google Calendar) for them to continue to function, presumably because the power management system keeps shutting them down.
I have every single app to OFF in the App Freeze screen, every app is allowed to run in background (not the smart option, plain always-let-this-run option) and allowed to launch other apps (otherwise more things are broken) and it still feels like things are quirky due to how aggressive the power management is.
Am i missing something? are there more options that i missed? is it better in the EU/IN ROMs?
The eu rom fixes this problem
So a trade off of functionality vs latest security patches etc. Might be worth a try of switching over and at least trying it for a short little bit to determine.
Does anyone know if there's a differnce in behavior for Android Auto between CN and EU ROMs? (though i imagine its also related to power management at the least)
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I am on EU ROM here in the UK (A.28) and ever since I got this phone. It loves to close apps in the background. Facebook used 1400mah when it was just running in the background. Disabled it running in background, notifications work but now it only uses 234mah roughly. There system is messed up. Other apps that I like to use in the background include Google Clock and Skip Track Settings.
These I have a Tasker to launch both apps, with a little pause between launch. I have "Exclude from recent apps" enabled and then after they've launched. I get it to go home automatically. Then with my usage, I have this task running on boot, 5am (whilst I'm asleep) and on secondary app open. I don't notice it, other than when it boots and you just gotta let it run. My clock then works 100% of the time for my alarms and works all day.
One thing to note is, if you click "clear all" in recents, you have to run the task (I do this with the secondary app) to reopen the apps. Thankfyully, with Tasker with auto start-up enabled, it just works and is obviously in realme's don't close in background list.
Thankfully, with Android 11, a promising change to the rules for OEMs is that they can't have list of preferable apps and have to give all app developers an equal chance to running and not being killed. So hopefully, with Android 11, realme will have to stop this annoying practise.
Hope I've explained that well enough and you can use Tasker as a bootleg option
- Josh
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
ransagy said:
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Yes, apps that realme likes to kill in the background. I have them opened by Tasker whilst I'm sleeping and on boot as realme doesn't close Tasker in the background and then the apps work fine all day. I don't notice it open them other than on boot as otherwise my phone is in standby.
Alarms never triggered for me as realme killed Google Clock, that's why now when it just opens in the background as I sleep it isn't killed.
I don't use my phone intensely and because Tasker opens them as apps, realme can't close them because they're still technically open, even though they don't show in recents. That's why when you clear all apps in recents, you need to then reopen them (that's what my secondary Tasker app does).
As for Android Auto, I haven't had any issue with it. When I use it, my car isn't technical so it uses the screen. I plug my phone in, turn the car engine on and phone begins to charge. Then with a bluetooth to FM adapter, my phone auto connects to bluetooth, and as soon as my phone connects, Android Auto automatically opens (as I have it enabled in Auto's settings) and I get it to play music automatically.
For someone using the actual plug in display to the car, I don't know. Android Auto came pre-installed and all I had to do was install the version for "phone screens".
If you need help with Tasker, my insta is below. Feel free to reply to this or message me on there.
Hope this helps
- Josh
It does help, Thanks!
ransagy said:
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Due to a similar issue I had in my corporate Outlook e-mail app, I searched for a solution for the error I got there like "Your organization has removed its data associated with this app" and I found an article from Microsoft proposing a resolution (url not include in this post because it is not allowed, however it is quite easy to find it).
I followed that resolution proposed and it worked for Google Clock app. The alarm finally rang this morning!
Basically, you should go to app list, choose Google Clock (or even any clock app) and configure it as follows:
-in "Power Saver", choose ""Run in Background"
-Set "Allow Notifications" to on
-Set "Auto Startup" to on
-Set "Allow other Apps or Services to Launch" to on
Hope it helps
Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
Wpbarreto said:
Due to a similar issue I had in my corporate Outlook e-mail app, I searched for a solution for the error I got there like "Your organization has removed its data associated with this app" and I found an article from Microsoft proposing a resolution (url not include in this post because it is not allowed, however it is quite easy to find it).
I followed that resolution proposed and it worked for Google Clock app. The alarm finally rang this morning!
Basically, you should go to app list, choose Google Clock (or even any clock app) and configure it as follows:
-in "Power Saver", choose ""Run in Background"
-Set "Allow Notifications" to on
-Set "Auto Startup" to on
-Set "Allow other Apps or Services to Launch" to on
Hope it helps
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Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
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I also enabled all of these settings (other than last one, can't find it) and had some days it worked, some days it didn't. So for the sake of my actual work, I used my Tasker method and works 100% of the time. Ultimately, realme kinda screwed us over. Ultimately, Android 11 should fix this with it's new guidelines so let's just work around it in the mean time.
Yeah, I'm yet to try your Tasker method, i definitely will though, it's basically the last ditch effort here. I just finished switching to the EU rom as well.
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Yeah, I'm yet to try your Tasker method, i definitely will though, it's basically the last ditch effort here. I just finished switching to the EU rom as well.
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ransagy said:
Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
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On Startup Manager, for me on EU ROM A.30, and since I first got the phone. The limit on Startup Manager was and still is 20 not recommended startup apps. This is, in realme's words, "to ensure the hone will run smoothly", like bollocks. My old phone had 3GB of RAM and has the exact same apps and ran fine (other than only allowing 3 backgrounds apps to run before memory ran out). But with 8GB and SD865, it's just their way of saying, oh look we have this amount of screen on time. Judging by the list on A.30, the Google Clock is now recommended (I don't think it was before). Either way, realme is gonna get shunned with Android 11's new guidelines and it'll be a fair playing field.
Android Authority - Google Fighting Unfair Power Management Article (Just an interesting read):
www. androidauthority. com/ android-11-background-apps-1136794/
- Josh
Yeah, EU rom (A.20 as its the only one compatible with the chinese model right now) seems to have saner behavior, 20 startup apps instead of 5 and i don't think it has that "allow others to launch" option at all, so not blocking it even? We'll know soon. App Freeze doesn't seem to be automatically enabling on apps, either, also good.
Google Clock worked for me this morning (i duplicated the "system" clock alarms, just a couple mins later to be sure something triggers)
I'll check Android Auto today as well.
I AM always on High Performance mode though.
The thing is about Android 11's changes, that they seem to be worded a little on the easy side in the Google language - makes it seem to me that Google is just asking the vendors to be a little clearer on what they do when informing the users, not that they absolutely can't kill background apps. Here's hoping though.
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Yeah, EU rom (A.20 as its the only one compatible with the chinese model right now) seems to have saner behavior, 20 startup apps instead of 5 and i don't think it has that "allow others to launch" option at all, so not blocking it even? We'll know soon. App Freeze doesn't seem to be automatically enabling on apps, either, also good.
Google Clock worked for me this morning (i duplicated the "system" clock alarms, just a couple mins later to be sure something triggers)
I'll check Android Auto today as well.
I AM always on High Performance mode though.
The thing is about Android 11's changes, that they seem to be worded a little on the easy side in the Google language - makes it seem to me that Google is just asking the vendors to be a little clearer on what they do when informing the users, not that they absolutely can't kill background apps. Here's hoping though.
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I keep my settings to standard and never do high performance stuff. I also use 60hz as although I love 90hz, I also love battery life and it isn't enough for me to justify the battery usage.
Yeah, I dropped down to normal and had no issues so far, without tasker of anything, just the EU A.20 ROM.
I am on 90Hz all the time though - As someone who is used to 144Hz monitors and gaming, i can sorely tell the difference between 60 and 90 and to me the battery life difference is somewhat negligible.
I haven't tried Android Auto, but we'll see soon enough. Android 11 also brings wireless Auto to everyone, so that might help there as well.

Question Notification issues with watch gt2

Hello, has anyone had problems with the watch notifications?
The problem I have is that the notifications do not appear on the clock screen, nor do they vibrate, nor do they sound; only until I swipe from bottom to top I see that there are notifications.
I already spoke to Huawei support and they ask me to activate special notification permissions that I cannot find in the settings.
I hope someone can help me.
Have you already attempted to enable any available permissions from the app details under Apps in Settings?
Hello, thank you very much for answering.
I have already managed to get the notifications to work for a few hours, but after a few hours the same thing happens again. I have activated all accesses of the Health application, such as access to notifications (In the menu "special access to apps"), permissions to contacts, phone, etc. The Health app is also out of battery optimization.
Huawei's support asks me to activate this:
Settings> Privacy> Management> Special app permissions> Notifications> Huawei Health.
I hope I have explained myself well.
If it consistently seems to work until the phone is idle for a couple hours, you should check all of the different settings for battery and background data throughout the phone and see if one of them is to blame. There are quite a few different settings for this, including some also in Developer Options if you enabled those.
Hi.
When it worked for a while and then no longer, it was the first thing I thought. Something is killing some service or task and that's why they stop coming. But it is nothing like that, the notifications do reach the clock, but it does not vibrate or sound. I already put the application without battery optimization, which starts automatically, blocked in tasks, application services the same. I can not think of anything else.
Thanks for the help.
After doing more research, I came to a huawei forum in Chinese and found the answer. The watch can detect that it is not being used, that you are not wearing it and tattoos can make the watch think that it is not being used. I have my entire left arm tattooed, change the wristwatch and it works perfectly. But I don't know how this leaves me a little unsatisfied, I don't know.
It doesn't have a way to disable that? Might want to suggest it to them. Usually features like that aren't hardcoded because such situations exist.
No, the GT2 series has a sensor dedicated specifically to that. I can only return it, change the hand to the one that is not tattooed or erase the tattoo.

Question AOD Freeze solution?

Hi, i got the watch yesterday. I updated it and started to notice that all 3rd party face apps ( watchmaker, facer, etc) freezes while on AOD. Minutes just don't move until I awake the watch. Also the usual ways to awake don't work reliably... only the ugly-childish samsung provided faces work as they should.
I have searched and it seems I'm not the only one and it's an update "feature"... So it seems it's not a faulty watch.
It's there any workaround to this?
I have been long gone from smartwatches. Can we rollback?
Thanks
No Rollback yet....
As you need Firmware for this...
From Samsung side...
They are working on new Bugs ehm """Watch Faces"""...
Code:
R8.0XXU1FVB1
This could take again weekS or monthS...
Maybe meanwhile good idea to use good old methods to take Logs... with ADB:
adb logcat...
Or check *#9900#
3d Party Developer need to make new compatible Versions... for EVA8...
But maybe some ON OFF workaround possible...
BUT you need to search for it.
Good Luck.
Best Regards
I've noticed the same thing since the latest big update. I have to tap multiple times to get the AOD to change to the actual watchface. Using Watchmaker Premium myself. It's quite annoying. Hopefully we'll get some kind of fix soon.
Same problem here. For now, I'm avoiding AOD on Facer, etc.
I highly doubt AMOLED anti-burn-in is active when the screen is frozen like that. So, better safe than sorry I guess.
Found this... not tested...
Third-party Watchfaces AOD Lösung
Ich habe eine Lösung gefunden wie die third party watchfaces im AOD Modus wieder funktionieren. Öffnet die Wearable App, geht in die Uhr Einstellungen, öffnet den Reiter Apps, sucht dort das entsprechende Programm über das euer Watchface läuft und aktiviert den Schalter Hintergrundaktivität...
eu.community.samsung.com
I hope with Screenshots possible to manage...
Only as info...
Best Regards
Funny comments from Devs:
What the..... Why... AOD
I applied an update after the Galaxy Unpacked event and did not have any of the issues reported. Someone asked me to check and make sure I had the latest and there was another update. After applying that the AOD did not work. It may work for a few minutes up to 15 then it freezes the time. I...
forum.developer.samsung.com
Only as info...
Best Regards
I really hope they fix this soon. It is destroying my enjoyment of this device.... the recent update ruined it. I never know what the time is now, and sometimes I have to press the screen or button and wait several SECONDS for it to wake up and respond. This morning I pressed it about 10 times in a futile attempt to "unfreeze" the AOD display.
If you have a Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
and 3rd party Watchmaker app installed
there is a workaround.
Wearable app/Settings /Apps /Watchmaker..... enable "allow background activity"
Been using AOD for few days like this AID working ok like this.
See Screen shot
According to this report
(about 53 seconds into video, a new update /fix (for the AOD) has been released
I finished the EVB4 update.
When I go into those settings, I see the "allow background activity" setting, but it is off and greyed out for Watchmaker, so it cannot be turned on. It can be turned on for OTHER apps, though. I tried to force stop Watchmaker, made no difference. Not sure what to do...
UPDATE: Ug, after I force-stopped Watchmaker in the attempt to allow that setting, I lost all my WM faces on the watch AND on the phone. And I don't think I have a backup for the one I use daily and heavily customized (Pulsar Neo). So I rebooted both and then have the watch face back on the watch, but it is not showing in the phone app. Checked version of WatchMaker, it is 7.2.7 (I noticed in your screenshot yours is 7.2.8, but there are no updates for WatchMaker, I just checked on Play). Checked app settings, still unable to allow background activity.
crxssi said:
I finished the EVB4 update.
When I go into those settings, I see the "allow background activity" setting, but it is off and greyed out for Watchmaker, so it cannot be turned on. It can be turned on for OTHER apps, though. I tried to force stop Watchmaker, made no difference. Not sure what to do...
UPDATE: Ug, after I force-stopped Watchmaker in the attempt to allow that setting, I lost all my WM faces on the watch AND on the phone. And I don't think I have a backup for the one I use daily and heavily customized (Pulsar Neo). So I rebooted both and then have the watch face back on the watch, but it is not showing in the phone app. Checked version of WatchMaker, it is 7.2.7 (I noticed in your screenshot yours is 7.2.8, but there are no updates for WatchMaker, I just checked on Play). Checked app settings, still unable to allow background activity.
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I believe the problem with my lost watchfaces was due to my phone being upgraded to Android 12 just last week. But I am not sure. At least I was able to find the original face and modify it again, and it works.
In any case, I am still unable to find out why I can't set "allow background activity" on WatchMaker. I went though every app, and none of them allow the setting except for "Wear Wiki Reader" and "MyRadar." Further, I can't find anyone else with a similar problem, no matter how much I search. Has anyone else been able to change that setting? Or is it just me??
crxssi said:
I believe the problem with my lost watchfaces was due to my phone being upgraded to Android 12 just last week. But I am not sure. At least I was able to find the original face and modify it again, and it works.
In any case, I am still unable to find out why I can't set "allow background activity" on WatchMaker. I went though every app, and none of them allow the setting except for "Wear Wiki Reader" and "MyRadar." Further, I can't find anyone else with a similar problem, no matter how much I search. Has anyone else been able to change that setting? Or is it just me??
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firstly ,im on the beta version of Watchmaker
Sorry about watchfaces you lost .
Here's a tip for securing watchfaces ......
(this is what i do .)
On my phone Watchmaker app /My Watches /select you watch face etc /select Export
You will on pop up notification location where you "backup " is stored .
On my phone i use Total Commander ,file manager ,(free version )
Total Commander - file manager - Apps on Google Play
Android version of the desktop file manager Total Commander (www.ghisler.com).
play.google.com
i will then, via Total Commander ,go to my internal storage /Android/data/watchfrenzy/ files /export .....and copy my exported watchfaces from Android data to a safe loacation ...eg laptop ,external hardrive .
If you delete /lose you watchface all you have to do is copy them back to Android/data watchfrenzy/files/export and import into app .
Further tip you can also do this with fonts ...copy .ttf fonts into the fonts folder .
I Google around for reasons "background activity greyed out "
There can be various reasons .
I see some of my watch apps is greyed out ,some is showing ....some greyed out ?
Not sure why ?
Personally, i think the buggy Samsung watch update has something to do with it ?
as not all my watch installed apps are showing on Watchmaker .
eg .Previously my sideloaded Google Assistant ,showed up in Watchmaker
app ,now it does not ...yet in the Samsung Stock watched /apps shortcut ,
it still shows !
See some results and reasons ...
My Google search link....you might get some idea ,as what your reason is ?
background activity greyed out - Google Search
www.google.com
See some screenshots that might give you better idea to explain my above post .....sorry the order is a bit mixed ,but i'm sure you can follow ?
other just asked again
Good luck
I have no problem exporting or importing from the WatchMaker app, the problem was that it had no faces in it. They were still on the watch, but not the phone. From what I can tell, there is no way to suck them back off the watch. But your tips will be handy for others! I only wish I had exported them before they were lost (only 1 matters to me, and I have re-created it).
How did you obtain the beta (and why did you)? It sounds interesting, although I doubt the version is the cause of my problem, since I have seen other users' screenshots with using the same version as I am but without the greyed out button. Are you using a Samsung phone with Android12?
One thing I haven't tried is removing and re-installing WatchMaker. I wonder if that would matter?
Firstly,
I currently have about, +- 30 different, beta programs /apps. on my phone.
Yes, i have a Samsung Note 20 Ultra 5g
So as I'm overall a Android Themer (at heart) wherever it's KLWP theming or Samsung Theme Park or Watchmaker etc
i will join /subscribe to beta versions.
I agree with you, that the beta or stable versions, is not the cause.!
I cannot advise you to uninstall and install Watchmaker................ but personally i would
have tried it.!
(I would have kept my favorite watchfaces safely in another folder to copy/import back. into Watchmaker.
When the latest Wear O S broke 3rd party, Watch theme apps
I was totally lost without, my favorite Watchmaker creation, working correctly in AOD mode.
Just to note....
I've noticed that some of the apps that i cannot toggle is a mixed between system apos and 3rd party apps.
And again.... some if those that i can toggle
is also a mix of system and 3rd party apps.
Good luck
crxssi said:
I really hope they fix this soon. It is destroying my enjoyment of this device.... the recent update ruined it. I never know what the time is now, and sometimes I have to press the screen or button and wait several SECONDS for it to wake up and respond. This morning I pressed it about 10 times in a futile attempt to "unfreeze" the AOD display.
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I now know what others were talking about when it comes to the AOD and display brightness problem with this last update. Another aspect of just how totally Samsung ruined AOD with the last update.
I was a passenger in a dark car. My AOD watch face was way too bright in ambient mode- and very distracting. I would try to wake it up, which could take pressing a button several times and waiting. Once it woke up, it immediately adjusted the ambient brightness correctly for the dark setting. But 30 seconds later, when it went to ambient mode, back to high brightness again. And it would stay that way. Just for giggles, I tried several other watch faces, including the stupid Samsung ones (that we can't uninstall). Every single one of them did the same thing.
Interestingly, I got so angry, I rebooted the watch,and then it started acting normally again, even with my WatchMaker face. How long would that last? I can't say. But it did at least for that night. (I don't often wear the watch at night).
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Interestingly, I got so angry, I rebooted the watch,and then it started acting normally again, even with my WatchMaker face. How long would that last? I can't say. But it did at least for that night. (I don't often wear the watch at night).
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Seems kinda random. I just rebooted now it because it was driving me crazy. First time I pressed the lower button, it took 9 seconds to respond. Second time 8 seconds. Then later, it was instant. Maddening. What is taking Samsung so long to react to this??
OK, it has been several days since the April R870XXU1FVC8 update. Ever since, I have no longer experienced the problem with the AOD ambient mode freezing (not updating time/display), nor the problem with AOD ambient display ignoring wakeup (press button, touch, etc has long delay before waking). So I might regret saying it, but I think it might actually be fixed in the update.
The one remaining AOD problem seems to be it gets confused with the auto-brightness. When awake, the brightness seems to always be correct. But sometimes it doesn't update brightness correctly when entering ambient mode or while in ambient mode. It requires waking the watch and then it immediately corrects the display brightness.
So, finally, my watch is a watch again.
No update for over 6 weeks for my sim-free LTE Watch 4. The AOD screen update issue continues. Have any other LTE owners had the update that fixes this?
New watch 4 classic owner here (on verizon). I'm still having issues with the display freezing even after allowing background activity for watchmaker. Sometimes it works, sometimes the faces freeze for 30 seconds or so before updating and starting to show the seconds hand.
Anyone else still having issues or have another solution?
lunari said:
New watch 4 classic owner here (on verizon). I'm still having issues with the display freezing
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LTE uses don't have the recent update yet.
crxssi said:
LTE uses don't have the recent update yet.
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Well that would explain it I'll rock it with AOD off for now and hope the LTE update drops soon.

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