Is it just me or this phone (or at least the CN RMX2071 roms) are super aggressive in closing apps? I know it's a general theme with "custom" (non aosp) based ROMs and most vendor UI takes, but it feels really really broken in these phones.
I have to keep the phone in "high performance" mode and even then i have to re-run some apps every other day (Nova launcher's google companion app) and even re-add widgets (Google Calendar) for them to continue to function, presumably because the power management system keeps shutting them down.
I have every single app to OFF in the App Freeze screen, every app is allowed to run in background (not the smart option, plain always-let-this-run option) and allowed to launch other apps (otherwise more things are broken) and it still feels like things are quirky due to how aggressive the power management is.
Am i missing something? are there more options that i missed? is it better in the EU/IN ROMs?
The eu rom fixes this problem
So a trade off of functionality vs latest security patches etc. Might be worth a try of switching over and at least trying it for a short little bit to determine.
Does anyone know if there's a differnce in behavior for Android Auto between CN and EU ROMs? (though i imagine its also related to power management at the least)
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I am on EU ROM here in the UK (A.28) and ever since I got this phone. It loves to close apps in the background. Facebook used 1400mah when it was just running in the background. Disabled it running in background, notifications work but now it only uses 234mah roughly. There system is messed up. Other apps that I like to use in the background include Google Clock and Skip Track Settings.
These I have a Tasker to launch both apps, with a little pause between launch. I have "Exclude from recent apps" enabled and then after they've launched. I get it to go home automatically. Then with my usage, I have this task running on boot, 5am (whilst I'm asleep) and on secondary app open. I don't notice it, other than when it boots and you just gotta let it run. My clock then works 100% of the time for my alarms and works all day.
One thing to note is, if you click "clear all" in recents, you have to run the task (I do this with the secondary app) to reopen the apps. Thankfyully, with Tasker with auto start-up enabled, it just works and is obviously in realme's don't close in background list.
Thankfully, with Android 11, a promising change to the rules for OEMs is that they can't have list of preferable apps and have to give all app developers an equal chance to running and not being killed. So hopefully, with Android 11, realme will have to stop this annoying practise.
Hope I've explained that well enough and you can use Tasker as a bootleg option
- Josh
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Yes, apps that realme likes to kill in the background. I have them opened by Tasker whilst I'm sleeping and on boot as realme doesn't close Tasker in the background and then the apps work fine all day. I don't notice it open them other than on boot as otherwise my phone is in standby.
Alarms never triggered for me as realme killed Google Clock, that's why now when it just opens in the background as I sleep it isn't killed.
I don't use my phone intensely and because Tasker opens them as apps, realme can't close them because they're still technically open, even though they don't show in recents. That's why when you clear all apps in recents, you need to then reopen them (that's what my secondary Tasker app does).
As for Android Auto, I haven't had any issue with it. When I use it, my car isn't technical so it uses the screen. I plug my phone in, turn the car engine on and phone begins to charge. Then with a bluetooth to FM adapter, my phone auto connects to bluetooth, and as soon as my phone connects, Android Auto automatically opens (as I have it enabled in Auto's settings) and I get it to play music automatically.
For someone using the actual plug in display to the car, I don't know. Android Auto came pre-installed and all I had to do was install the version for "phone screens".
If you need help with Tasker, my insta is below. Feel free to reply to this or message me on there.
Hope this helps
- Josh
It does help, Thanks!
ransagy said:
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Due to a similar issue I had in my corporate Outlook e-mail app, I searched for a solution for the error I got there like "Your organization has removed its data associated with this app" and I found an article from Microsoft proposing a resolution (url not include in this post because it is not allowed, however it is quite easy to find it).
I followed that resolution proposed and it worked for Google Clock app. The alarm finally rang this morning!
Basically, you should go to app list, choose Google Clock (or even any clock app) and configure it as follows:
-in "Power Saver", choose ""Run in Background"
-Set "Allow Notifications" to on
-Set "Auto Startup" to on
-Set "Allow other Apps or Services to Launch" to on
Hope it helps
Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
Wpbarreto said:
Due to a similar issue I had in my corporate Outlook e-mail app, I searched for a solution for the error I got there like "Your organization has removed its data associated with this app" and I found an article from Microsoft proposing a resolution (url not include in this post because it is not allowed, however it is quite easy to find it).
I followed that resolution proposed and it worked for Google Clock app. The alarm finally rang this morning!
Basically, you should go to app list, choose Google Clock (or even any clock app) and configure it as follows:
-in "Power Saver", choose ""Run in Background"
-Set "Allow Notifications" to on
-Set "Auto Startup" to on
-Set "Allow other Apps or Services to Launch" to on
Hope it helps
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Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
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I also enabled all of these settings (other than last one, can't find it) and had some days it worked, some days it didn't. So for the sake of my actual work, I used my Tasker method and works 100% of the time. Ultimately, realme kinda screwed us over. Ultimately, Android 11 should fix this with it's new guidelines so let's just work around it in the mean time.
Yeah, I'm yet to try your Tasker method, i definitely will though, it's basically the last ditch effort here. I just finished switching to the EU rom as well.
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Yeah, I'm yet to try your Tasker method, i definitely will though, it's basically the last ditch effort here. I just finished switching to the EU rom as well.
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Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
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On Startup Manager, for me on EU ROM A.30, and since I first got the phone. The limit on Startup Manager was and still is 20 not recommended startup apps. This is, in realme's words, "to ensure the hone will run smoothly", like bollocks. My old phone had 3GB of RAM and has the exact same apps and ran fine (other than only allowing 3 backgrounds apps to run before memory ran out). But with 8GB and SD865, it's just their way of saying, oh look we have this amount of screen on time. Judging by the list on A.30, the Google Clock is now recommended (I don't think it was before). Either way, realme is gonna get shunned with Android 11's new guidelines and it'll be a fair playing field.
Android Authority - Google Fighting Unfair Power Management Article (Just an interesting read):
www. androidauthority. com/ android-11-background-apps-1136794/
- Josh
Yeah, EU rom (A.20 as its the only one compatible with the chinese model right now) seems to have saner behavior, 20 startup apps instead of 5 and i don't think it has that "allow others to launch" option at all, so not blocking it even? We'll know soon. App Freeze doesn't seem to be automatically enabling on apps, either, also good.
Google Clock worked for me this morning (i duplicated the "system" clock alarms, just a couple mins later to be sure something triggers)
I'll check Android Auto today as well.
I AM always on High Performance mode though.
The thing is about Android 11's changes, that they seem to be worded a little on the easy side in the Google language - makes it seem to me that Google is just asking the vendors to be a little clearer on what they do when informing the users, not that they absolutely can't kill background apps. Here's hoping though.
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Yeah, EU rom (A.20 as its the only one compatible with the chinese model right now) seems to have saner behavior, 20 startup apps instead of 5 and i don't think it has that "allow others to launch" option at all, so not blocking it even? We'll know soon. App Freeze doesn't seem to be automatically enabling on apps, either, also good.
Google Clock worked for me this morning (i duplicated the "system" clock alarms, just a couple mins later to be sure something triggers)
I'll check Android Auto today as well.
I AM always on High Performance mode though.
The thing is about Android 11's changes, that they seem to be worded a little on the easy side in the Google language - makes it seem to me that Google is just asking the vendors to be a little clearer on what they do when informing the users, not that they absolutely can't kill background apps. Here's hoping though.
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I keep my settings to standard and never do high performance stuff. I also use 60hz as although I love 90hz, I also love battery life and it isn't enough for me to justify the battery usage.
Yeah, I dropped down to normal and had no issues so far, without tasker of anything, just the EU A.20 ROM.
I am on 90Hz all the time though - As someone who is used to 144Hz monitors and gaming, i can sorely tell the difference between 60 and 90 and to me the battery life difference is somewhat negligible.
I haven't tried Android Auto, but we'll see soon enough. Android 11 also brings wireless Auto to everyone, so that might help there as well.
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Serious FLAW w/ Huawei Phone Manager - "Recent Apps" & 3rd party App Startup - HELP!
Hi,
I am having a 2 MAJOR deal-breaker issues with my GEM-703L B112 EMUI 3.1:
* Startup Apps (including Alarm Clocks, Hangouts, 3rd party Email client) don't start after a reboot resulting in missing notifications
* Protected Apps (including Alarm Clocks, Hangouts, 3rd party Email client) get killed/closed when "flicking up" to clear all apps using Recent Apps button resulting in missing notifications
The culprit of this issue seems to be Huawei's Phone Manager. All apps mentioned above are set as Protected Apps, Trusted permissions, allowed all notifications, and background data is enabled.
If anyone has a solution for this issue, *PLEASE* help! I really love the phone but must have this resolved since these are VITAL, especially for my alarm clock - not waking up for work is not an option!
I will be rooting once I get the bootloader unlocked via unlock code from Huawei at which time this issue can be fixed by making these important apps as system apps (thanks to ajsmsg78 for the suggestion as well), but until that time and for many of those who are and won't be rooted, a solution is clearly very badly needed.
Lastly, I believe this issue also exists for other Huawei phones having EMUI such as the P8, etc.
Switch off Power Genie app and set energy saving to least agressive level.
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Switch off Power Genie app and set energy saving to least agressive level.
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Thanks for your reply trurl3, my energy saving level is set to "Performance" which is the least aggressive level, but I cannot find this "Power Genie" app. Where would this be found through?
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Thanks for your reply trurl3, my energy saving level is set to "Performance" which is the least aggressive level, but I cannot find this "Power Genie" app. Where would this be found through?
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Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
hagba said:
Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Thanks hagba.
UPDATE: strangely enough, my startup apps have now slowly started to start up after reboot but not right away. As I do not yet have root on this device, I simply cannot explain why in the world this positive change had happened. I am almost afraid to reboot again because I will be frustrated if/when they do not start up.
The app that I really need to start up is called Alarm Clock Xtreme which is my goto Alarm app for years now. At first it was not showing the permanent notification in the notifications and the Alar, would not go off. Now after a few minutes after reboot it is showing up. Not sure what is going on here code-wise.
Anyone have any input here or a solution for the Recent Apps button killing Protected Apps?
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Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Was a problem on the X1 I had as well. Things like google hangouts would get closed and you'd never get notifications, even if it was set as a protected app. From what I can tell only the Huawei apps are truly protected...
You have to root and get a rom with the phone manager removed.
And even then, some things still get closed once in a while, which is odd. There's is plenty of free memory, so not sure why the Huawei phones mess up the memory management so much.
This Huawei memory management issue is really the only bad thing about this phone... Android has a great memory manager built in, don't mess with it
Otherwise, its perfect for me...
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Don't bother doesn't help, I've power genie disabled and it's on Performance, still same issue.
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Hagba not sure if u saw my message above.
omniphil said:
Was a problem on the X1 I had as well. Things like google hangouts would get closed and you'd never get notifications, even if it was set as a protected app. From what I can tell only the Huawei apps are truly protected...
You have to root and get a rom with the phone manager removed.
And even then, some things still get closed once in a while, which is odd. There's is plenty of free memory, so not sure why the Huawei phones mess up the memory management so much.
This Huawei memory management issue is really the only bad thing about this phone... Android has a great memory manager built in, don't mess with it
Otherwise, its perfect for me...
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Thanks omniphil, I'm wondering if this particular issue could be worked around since startup apps are working but only after a delay (see "UPDATE" above) by having a third party app monitor if a process is killed or having a Tasker profile to relaunch it right away, but then we are back in the same paradox where that third party app or Tasker profile would also be killed when "flicking up" to kill all apps.
@ajsmsg78 , @elio321 , @mcdhol_24 , @hagba , @Djiban:
Perhaps there is a certain third party app or Tasker profile can designate itself with "priority" mode of some sort and can bind itself to notifications or accessibility so that it would be relaunched? Please note I am just brainstorming here! Input would be gladly appreciated...
E--Man said:
Hagba not sure if u saw my message above.
Thanks omniphil, I'm wondering if this particular issue could be worked around since startup apps are working but only after a delay (see "UPDATE" above) by having a third party app monitor if a process is killed or having a Tasker profile to relaunch it right away, but then we are back in the same paradox where that third party app or Tasker profile would also be killed when "flicking up" to kill all apps.
@ajsmsg78 , @elio321 , @mcdhol_24 , @hagba , @Djiban:
Perhaps there is a certain third party app or Tasker profile can designate itself with "priority" mode of some sort and can bind itself to notifications or accessibility so that it would be relaunched? Please note I am just brainstorming here! Input would be gladly appreciated...
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Hi All and @ajsmsg78, @elio321, @mcdhol_24, @hagba, @Djiban, @omniphil,
I have noticed that unlike my other Protected apps, my SwiftKey keyboard app does not get killed when flicking up to close all apps using the Recent Apps button. I understand that this is obviously because the selected keyboard is required to stay in memory, but can't this or similar exception be leveraged to keep a Tasker profile in memory to relaunch critical apps?
Surely I am not the only unrooted user with this issue!
Thanks again.
I think the big question is, why are you swiping up to kill all apps? They aren't running in the background anyways, they are just place holders. There isn't really any need to kill all the background apps in android anymore, it uses more battery life. Just leave them all there and let android do what it was designed to do
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I think the big question is, why are you swiping up to kill all apps? They aren't running in the background anyways, they are just place holders. There isn't really any need to kill all the background apps in android anymore, it uses more battery life. Just leave them all there and let android do what it was designed to do
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Hi omniphil, I see what you are saying but killing unused apps does improve the device speed and save on battery usage including background data consumption. I understand that memory is automatically managed by killing apps when more memory is required but the above is not considered in this - just memory.
I fixed this issue by freezing the phone manager through titanium backup. I was also breaking my head over keeping the apps running in the background even if they were killed in the multitasker area. You do need to be rooted to use titanium backup. Hope this helps, it sure fixed the issue for me.
want an app to not be closed by swiping up? on the app itself, on the recents screen, swipe it down. now there's an icon showing on it, right? that means it won't be closed when you do the swipe up to close all apps.
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want an app to not be closed by swiping up? on the app itself, on the recents screen, swipe it down. now there's an icon showing on it, right? that means it won't be closed when you do the swipe up to close all apps.
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Hi this is true but only valid until next reboot.
can you disable phone manager with debloater software on Windows
Hi,
I had an Honor Note 8 and notifications any came through if apps were open in app memory, or if they had a widget.
Adding them to a whitelist/ignoring battery optimisations did not work and notifications were blocked and only came through when you opened up the apps.
Is this fixed in the Honor Note 10?
Could any users please test by closing all open apps from app memory and seeing if notifications come through for the following apps:
eBay
Etsy
Amazon seller app
Google Hangouts
WhatsApp
Facebook messenger
This is the only thing holding me back from buying this phone. It doesn't look like a Global version will ever be released and I need to know if the Chinese ROM still kills notifications.
Thank you
Hi buddy
I have noticed when my screen is off for a bit then when I open WhatsApp loads of notifications come through.
Apps&Notifications/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps to Manage manually and turn Run in background. Now Apk does not turn off when the display is turned off ... ?
Kucko34 said:
Apps&Notifications/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps to Manage manually and turn Run in background. Now Apk does not turn off when the display is turned off ... ?
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Even with those option it does not work on note 8. We had to remove an APK called powergenie from the system to stop it from killing app even if those app are whitelisted.
Huawei power management is too aggressive.
jbfuzier said:
Even with those option it does not work on note 8. We had to remove an APK called powergenie from the system to stop it from killing app even if those app are whitelisted.
Huawei power management is too aggressive.
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One year I used Note 8 with Nougat and no problem with Power Management! Upon upgrading to Oreo system it automatically shuts down applications in the background, and it also does Note 10 ... ?
Phonemanager was the problem here on the Note 8. When i disabled that everyting worked great.
There are 2 settings that will totally minimize this problem (even Galaxy note 8 and iphones of my brothers are having this problem too)
but if you follow these 2 steps you will definitely minimize them as much as other phones
1. Settings/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps you like to get the notification to Manage manually
- turn all the 3 options on here (running in background , startups , and can be run by other apps) this will stop your phone from killing these specific apps from running in background
The second reason you don't get your notifications is because when your screen is off the Wifi will be disconnected first and then for a certain period of time , the system will also turn off your mobile data to save the battery as well. This means even if you have those apps running in background , you still won't get the notification because there's no internet connection....
So step 2 - go to Settings/Battery/ then look at the top right corner for the "gear" icon ,click ---- > Keep mobile data on <----- turn on option
(if you don't have mobile data plan and only rely on your wifi connection,well, you need to turn on keep your w-lan on instead )
Have fun and cheers
Sprazer said:
There are 2 settings that will totally minimize this problem (even Galaxy note 8 and iphones of my brothers are having this problem too)
but if you follow these 2 steps you will definitely minimize them as much as other phones
1. Settings/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps you like to get the notification to Manage manually
- turn all the 3 options on here (running in background , startups , and can be run by other apps) this will stop your phone from killing these specific apps from running in background
The second reason you don't get your notifications is because when your screen is off the Wifi will be disconnected first and then for a certain period of time , the system will also turn off your mobile data to save the battery as well. This means even if you have those apps running in background , you still won't get the notification because there's no internet connection....
So step 2 - go to Settings/Battery/ then look at the top right corner for the "gear" icon ,click ---- > Keep mobile data on <----- turn on option
(if you don't have mobile data plan and only rely on your wifi connection,well, you need to turn on keep your w-lan on instead )
Have fun and cheers
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Thanks, but I did all of this on the Note 8 (when I had one) and it did nothing. All of my notifications were blocked. The only way to fix it was to remove the awful PHONE MANAGER app via the ABD removal method.
If the Note 10 is going to be the same, I'll have to pass. I just want a phone that'll work properly out of the box.
No problem with WhatsApp, messenger eBay and Facebook so far, everything comes straight thru.
I did however observe sligh delay with Gmail.
Even with Gmail widget active in the background emails come at least one minute later after sending from another device.
ultrajapa said:
No problem with WhatsApp, messenger eBay and Facebook so far, everything comes straight thru.
I did however observe sligh delay with Gmail.
Even with Gmail widget active in the background emails come at least one minute later after sending from another device.
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I am using the Honor Mediapad X2 and having the same notifications issue, please note that there exists a HIDDEN WHITE LIST within Phone Manager where certain apps like Whatsapp are white listed and allow notifications to come through whereas other apps such as Hangouts and email clients are not. Having said this, do not use Whatsapp as a test to determine whether the Note 10 has the same issue or not. I do not know whether the Note 10's white list now includes apps such as Hangouts as it is a newer device and so it may be more up to date.
For your test, try an unpopular app which uses standard GCM protocol, kill the app, put the device into DEEP SLEEP (screen off, etc) and only then see if the device wakes up and notifications come through, they should.
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The problems that i had on the Honor 8 are not on the Honor 10. I get all notifications with no problems. Just set the apps in manual mode and select all 3 options in phonemanager -> startup apps.
phorenzik said:
Hi,
I had an Honor Note 8 and notifications any came through if apps were open in app memory, or if they had a widget.
Adding them to a whitelist/ignoring battery optimisations did not work and notifications were blocked and only came through when you opened up the apps.
Is this fixed in the Honor Note 10?
Could any users please test by closing all open apps from app memory and seeing if notifications come through for the following apps:
eBay
Etsy
Amazon seller app
Google Hangouts
WhatsApp
Facebook messenger
This is the only thing holding me back from buying this phone. It doesn't look like a Global version will ever be released and I need to know if the Chinese ROM still kills notifications.
Thank you
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Hi
I am sorry to disappoint you. On the Huawei Honor note 10 (EMUI 8.2.0 build 132) you won't receive notifications if the application is closed (not running in the background nor in the foreground), with one exception that I have found so far: WhatsApp.
All the settings you can modify only affect the application WHILE IT'S RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND, that is, the app will keep running if the background and won't be killed if you disabled battery optimization for the specific app and changed the App Launch setting to "Manage Manually" with all 3 options enabled. However, if the application was closed by you or never launched after restarting the phone, you won't receive notifications even with disabled battery optimization and power management.
I am so frustrated, I don't even get reminder notifications from Google Keep notes app. The only workaround is to manually open all the apps you wish to get notification from when you power up the phone.
If anyone has a better workaround or has a different behavior than what I described, please advise!
Cheers,
David
godudu said:
Hi
I am sorry to disappoint you. On the Huawei Honor note 10 (EMUI 8.2.0 build 132) you won't receive notifications if the application is closed (not running in the background nor in the foreground), with one exception that I have found so far: WhatsApp.
All the settings you can modify only affect the application WHILE IT'S RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND, that is, the app will keep running if the background and won't be killed if you disabled battery optimization for the specific app and changed the App Launch setting to "Manage Manually" with all 3 options enabled. However, if the application was closed by you or never launched after restarting the phone, you won't receive notifications even with disabled battery optimization and power management.
I am so frustrated, I don't even get reminder notifications from Google Keep notes app. The only workaround is to manually open all the apps you wish to get notification from when you power up the phone.
If anyone has a better workaround or has a different behavior than what I described, please advise!
Cheers,
David
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David, plz see my post above. I believe there is a built-in white list which once we are able to decipher would be very happy
Could this be the white list?
/data/data/com.huawei.systemmanager/files/cootekphoneservice/white_list
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=77664703
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Have friends solved the notification issue?
I still keep going
nemkate said:
Have friends solved the notification issue?
I still keep going
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Hi,
Unfortunately I believe this is per design and not a bug (Huawei strict battery saving policy.
The only way to guarantee notifications is to open the app you wish to get notifications from and keep it always running in the background.
Read the article below, it explains down to the bit level why notifications don't work on Huawei phones:
Damn I cannot post outside links because I am a new user. So Instead, search Google for this:
"why-your-push-notifications-never-see-the-light-of-day"
I hope it helps
D
godudu said:
Hi,
Unfortunately I believe this is per design and not a bug (Huawei strict battery saving policy.
The only way to guarantee notifications is to open the app you wish to get notifications from and keep it always running in the background.
Read the article below, it explains down to the bit level why notifications don't work on Huawei phones:
Damn I cannot post outside links because I am a new user. So Instead, search Google for this:
"why-your-push-notifications-never-see-the-light-of-day"
I hope it helps
D
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I solved the problem as you said .
Hopefully correct the problem with the new update.
thank you so much :iyi::iyi::iyi:
For me no Problem with all.All Notification working.I use Mini Widgets,Whatsapp,Signal...
SmartPhonesFan said:
I don't use whatsapp that magically works but FB messenger , mails , skype , etc doesn't .. when I open messenger there is orange waiting for network so app can happily work in background but internet wifi or mobile internet will be killed anyway when phone in sleep mode ..
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Have you checked under Phonemanager-Autostart runs in Background ?
SmartPhonesFan said:
I have tried everything..
Maybe I uninstalled something from Huawei what keeps wlan or data always on
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This always on option is there is the developer options in my unrooted stock release.
Hello friends, I am trying to decide if buy this phone or not, but the notification is a basic feature. My most used apps are Telegram, Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp, so I want to know if there was an update or something that fixed the notification management. Thanks in advance.
I received the phone and have been using it since 2/10. I have the 8/256gb version with the Chinese ROM. The phone is awesome with regards to build quality and so on, but I'm extremely frustrated with the issues that I'm seeing daily. I'm ready to ditch it and return to my Xiaomi Mi Mix.
Notifications are all turned off by default and every app notification must be turned on individually. So every new app needs this manual step.
Notifications, even if enabled correctly, lock screen, does not show up on the lock screen
Various apps do not receive new "data" such as emails until opened. (runs in background, just noticed the application freeze option, and turned that off)
Device Administrator removes MS Outlook as device admin regularly, used to be daily. (required by work)
When plugged into USB-C for Android Auto, must change setting to Transfer files, every time in order to activate Android Auto.
Resets Assistive Voice App nightly, removes Google Assistant and elects none, not even breeno voice.
Depending on task, it switches to use the Breeno Browser instead of Chrome as an intermediary and therefore does not fully like to the next task.
Swiping down on home screen brings up breeno search via breeno browser.
Cannot activate Location Sharing Services even if Location is turned on. I think this has to do w/ limitations on the "Region"
Things that I know does not work
Cannot use 3rd party messaging app. Once 3rd party app is set as default, it switches back to Oppo msgs app due to "security"
Cannot use another Launcher.
Cannot use Google Assistant wake up phrase
Can anyone else confirm if you're also experiencing the above? I'm willing to reset the phone but I think these are "defaults" and not like a choice I made during set-up to cause these issues. Thanks for reading.
The issues you mention are common and are part of the challenge of owning a phone with a Chinese rom. The trade-off is that you own a unique phone with awesome hardware.
I have been able to get all notifications to work though adjusting the notification options as you say, but you can also adjust the power saver and start-up options. You can also lock apps in the recent tasks screen.
You can also uninstall some of the built-in Chinese apps via adb. See the thread in the Find X forum. For example I have uninstalled the browser so it never comes up. I have not uninstalled the launcher as I am ok with the Oppo one.
Issues I have not been able to resolve: changing the default messaging and assistant apps for the long term.
For me, I know the experience of buying a phone with a Chinese rom is never going to be as smooth as a pixel or Samsung in terms of usability, but I love the fact that it is unique and appreciate the hardware (eg charging speed).
Unfortunately, the uniqueness of the phone does not overwhelm these limitations that causes daily resetting of certain defaults for me.
I'm ok w/ not using the Launcher and some other items like google assistant. However, other limitations really create barriers that can't be looked past for me.
I think I'll look for an opportunity to get the Xiaomi Mi 10 pro when possible and sell the Reno Ace.
Hi all. In this Video the reviewer states that he isn't getting any notifications with the screen off. Also it is a problem for one of our members. Is anyone else having these hassles? Do you get incoming text, email AUDIO notifications without waking the phone?
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I have no issue with notification at all..
Even when screen is off ..
U do have to active notification from each app setting and alow all permissins...
Also keep in maind to keep app running remove battery restriction from app setting also..
All will work normal
Working for me but I did need to grant WhatsApp and Trurcaller lots of permissions.
I even got True Edge installed for a visual way to get notified and that works brilliantly with the device asleep with screen off.
I was a bit surprised at the extra level of permissions needed. It's all gravy now, but I could see why a reviewer or somebody unaware would get caught out
But yes, I am getting notifications with the screen off in sound and visually, without having to wake the phone.
Indeed at first I wasn't getting any notifications but then I discovered you need to go into the app info and give permission for notifications and turn off battery saver.. now it works perfect and only for the apps I want
The video the OP posted is exactly whats happening to me. I have all the settings as described. Battery saver turned off and even when into each apps settings and allowed ALL permissions just to see if it would work. As the video says, notifications come, but you have to wake the device to see them, there is no sound or anything on screen until the device is woke. Exactly as the video describes. I do hope its fixed soon, I am back to using my Note 5 whilst my beautiful 10 Ultra sits in its box.
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The video the OP posted is exactly whats happening to me. I have all the settings as described. Battery saver turned off and even when into each apps settings and allowed ALL permissions just to see if it would work. As the video says, notifications come, but you have to wake the device to see them, there is no sound or anything on screen until the device is woke. Exactly as the video describes. I do hope its fixed soon, I am back to using my Note 5 whilst my beautiful 10 Ultra sits in its box.
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Have you undone your earlier modifications to the phone (copying files from phone to phone etc)?
You have two problems and the one to ignore for now is louder notifications. It's notifications at all.
It isn't something to fix from Xiaomi's view and it is always worth learning the software. I don't like it myself... It can be cloying etc.
But the default behaviour is to opt in to notifications. It's working as intended. That said look where we are, it's just your problems are a special case. No biggie, let's fix this!
You have an outstanding issue clouding this where you are trying to use unexplained files on the device (like seriously what format are they? Does it work in Music or anything? Have you tried removing them?)
Took a while but I get all my notifications now when screen is off, see 2vattached screen shots
Thanks all for answering my question! I think this is my last question before buying from Liaow.com, if the syncing isn't a constant problem. Does anyone have a major syncing problem as explained in this review? Once or twice a day I can deal with. I check the calendar throughout the day like most people. However if I get busy and forget, missing calendar events/alarms wouldn't work for me. I'd be forced to use my work iPhone<shudder> for calendar events lol.
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Took a while but I get all my notifications now when screen is off, see 2vattached screen shots
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How did you get the icons to show on the lock screen?
Mine doesn't. Quite annoying.
Also sometimes the lockscreen doesn't show me notifications even tho they are there.. :s
I have no issues with icons displaying while locked. You do need to enable them and ensure they start automatically and power control is turned off for the app. It has been much easier in the EU ROM for some reason.
Solution!
Here is the thing that helped me with the same notification issue! Just google "xiaomi mi 10 ultra notifications" and in the top 5 links you'll probably find an article from: theunpopulartraveller. It explains the settings, and they need to be accessed by pressing and holding the app icon ^ app info.
Don't give up, try and you'll get the sounds from needed apps back. And ye, actually now I find the way Xiaomi did it much more convenient: I just turned on notifications for 2 apps, and all the rest are silent, while previously I had to turn off all the rest of the apps (much more than 2, definitely) not to get disturbed by all the bull****.
EU Rom doesn't have the "importance" option at 30/31
Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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Disable adaptive notifications from setting. I dont know what google thinking when creating such feature.
it basically interrupt the whole notification process. Using so called Ai to decide, when to give you notifications or when not to. But most of the time it pick wrong decision and delay our notification altogether.
This is android feature since Q thus also causing problem on Pixel phone. On xiaomi seems like it suddenly got worse on Android 11
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Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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How did u manage to roll back to 12.0.15?
Get over to the EU ROM version. Lock screen notifications work fine.
Have you checked each notification that it has no battery optimisation set, also, check in notifications that each one has access to the lock screen. Since A11, notifications have been a pain but for some reason they do work much better on the EU ROM.
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Get over to the EU ROM version. Lock screen notifications work fine.
Have you checked each notification that it has no battery optimisation set, also, check in notifications that each one has access to the lock screen. Since A11, notifications have been a pain but for some reason they do work much better on the EU ROM.
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There are issues for Gpay and some banking / local safetynet apps for EU ROM which i do not wish to live with.
Somehow the props file in the eu rom causes those issues.
i am probably going to rollback to 12.0.15... now is the excruciating 160 hours wait for unlock.
You obviously don't follow the EU forums. GPay works, safeynet works and my UK bank works. But you also get everything plus more than the Chinese stock and all updates are based on both weekly and stable stock ROMs respectively.
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You obviously don't follow the EU forums. GPay works, safeynet works and my UK bank works. But you also get everything plus more than the Chinese stock and all updates are based on both weekly and stable stock ROMs respectively.
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i don't follow it to the tee, but i've seen some reports of some users not able to use gpay out of the stable roms.
that's why.. too much trouble.. i'll see what i can do when the unlock timer is up..
Hello, has anyone had problems with the watch notifications?
The problem I have is that the notifications do not appear on the clock screen, nor do they vibrate, nor do they sound; only until I swipe from bottom to top I see that there are notifications.
I already spoke to Huawei support and they ask me to activate special notification permissions that I cannot find in the settings.
I hope someone can help me.
Have you already attempted to enable any available permissions from the app details under Apps in Settings?
Hello, thank you very much for answering.
I have already managed to get the notifications to work for a few hours, but after a few hours the same thing happens again. I have activated all accesses of the Health application, such as access to notifications (In the menu "special access to apps"), permissions to contacts, phone, etc. The Health app is also out of battery optimization.
Huawei's support asks me to activate this:
Settings> Privacy> Management> Special app permissions> Notifications> Huawei Health.
I hope I have explained myself well.
If it consistently seems to work until the phone is idle for a couple hours, you should check all of the different settings for battery and background data throughout the phone and see if one of them is to blame. There are quite a few different settings for this, including some also in Developer Options if you enabled those.
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When it worked for a while and then no longer, it was the first thing I thought. Something is killing some service or task and that's why they stop coming. But it is nothing like that, the notifications do reach the clock, but it does not vibrate or sound. I already put the application without battery optimization, which starts automatically, blocked in tasks, application services the same. I can not think of anything else.
Thanks for the help.
After doing more research, I came to a huawei forum in Chinese and found the answer. The watch can detect that it is not being used, that you are not wearing it and tattoos can make the watch think that it is not being used. I have my entire left arm tattooed, change the wristwatch and it works perfectly. But I don't know how this leaves me a little unsatisfied, I don't know.
It doesn't have a way to disable that? Might want to suggest it to them. Usually features like that aren't hardcoded because such situations exist.
No, the GT2 series has a sensor dedicated specifically to that. I can only return it, change the hand to the one that is not tattooed or erase the tattoo.