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Touch Diamond will be equiped with 1000 mAh battery without sacrificing the shape, size and impression of using extended battery.
That's great, although the capacity isn't that much higher than the original....
Release date?
100 ???
will that really make a real diffrance????
The Mugen webpage tells release date is end of August. There might have not much difference between the OEM 900 mAh with this 1000 mAh, but it is good that Mugen can enhance the battery by this 100 mAh. User can still choose to buy OEM extended battery which has 440 mAh more but has to use another cover with extended size.
you guys say its not that much - but its an 11% increase! which if your battery lasts 24 hours now - this new one will be an extra 2 and a half hours - its up to you guys if its worth it - im considering it!
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Touch Diamond will be equiped with 1000 mAh battery without sacrificing the shape, size and impression of using extended battery.
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I'm not too impressed with the lifetime of the Mugen batteries. I've had two in different PDA's and I've experienced short lifetimes.
not as short as the life in my diamond battery!
Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
sounds more like it! 22% increase! woo!
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not as short as the life in my diamond battery!
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I'm talking lifetime not discharge time.
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Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
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I wonder of its lifetime - some of my rechargable 2500 mAh last shorter than those of 2000 mAh running the exact same device after a few usages. Let's hear the experience once you have tried it.
No probs - if they ever release it... They said end of July, so I guess we can expect it any day now.
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Seidio say they will have an OEM sized extended battery that will be more along the lines of 1100mah.. That's the one I'm waiting for.
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Well, there is an OEM sized battery on Siedos site now, but it is only 1000 mAh.
In europe the diamond have a 900mAH so 1000mAH doesn't give more. Perhaps 1 or 2 hours in stand by ?
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Well, there is an OEM sized battery on Siedos site now, but it is only 1000 mAh.
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I know - what a shame....
It's a shame the promised capacity hasn't appeared, but the 11% increase will certainly help me. With the original to carry as a spare I doubt I'll have to change often, but atleast I'll have the option.
As far as the HTC delay is concerned, I have a feeling they may surprise us, with an original sized extended capacity. Their theme is 'innovation' afteral, and there have been some interesting developments in Lion batteries recently. They have the punch to make investments in the right place. I'm holding out hope anyway lol.
I found a 1050mAh battery
Hey guys, I just fund this on amazon.de. It looks to be standard size.
http://www.amazon.de/1050mAh-Li-Ion-Diamond-T-Mobile-Compact/dp/B001GZKANU
I just ordered one. I've had good experiences so far with the seller. I'll report back once I get it.
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I just ordered one. I've had good experiences so far with the seller. I'll report back once I get it.
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I am waiting for a review anyway it seems that the price is too low for a good battery...
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I am waiting for a review anyway it seems that the price is too low for a good battery...
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There is one little issue with these kind of batteries, they may catch fire if not properly designed and for the phone. I the east you get batteries rated from A to AAA depending on how good they are and the risk. It doesn't happen often but make sure your phone is ventilated (not put on a carpet or covered) while recharging over night
Do you believe what capacity they print on that battery??? I wouldn't unless someone test it. I used to work with Cadex battery analyzer and believe me, there are so many lies on batteries even brand new ones as GP, Energizer, etc. Consider buying it...
You better buy this one for 7USD with worldwide free shipping:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15620
It sounds like the 1600 mAh battery from Seidio will fit in the stock battery place with no need for a different cover.
Is there any reason not to get this battery, other than spending $55?
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi16hnx1.htm
Anyone have a clue how much extra battery life 200mAh equates to?
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Anyone have a clue how much extra battery life 200mAh equates to?
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For a really rough estimate, if your average battery life is 12 hours, then an increase by 200 mAh (~14%) will give you and extra ~ 1.7 hours. Emphasis on really rough.
Probably not worth it unless (1) you are away from a charger for long periods of time, or (2) your original battery goes bad.
what about the one that adds only 5mm of extra thickness? that doesnt seem to bad
5mm may not sound like much, but the phone is only 11mm thick now. so, it'd add almost 50% to the phone's thickness. that's significant.
I would not mind getting any battery with improved life, battery life is pretty important to me. I am just wanting to see how much extra will I realistically be getting - before I make the purchase. Other than the 200 extra mAh, build quality can influence how much more (or less) the battery life ends up being. If it add's 25%+, I may just buy it.
Same here, the more battery the better! As long as the size is the same which is a plus!!
sounds like it's more of an additional battery than a better replacement, considering how little additional juice it'll potentially give.
I'd be interested how it compares to the price of an original battery, then just buy the cheaper one to have an extra batt
I picked up one of http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FU6KF2/ref=oss_product
It's a charger, works with any gadget that uses USB, it's TINY (smaller than the phone itself by a good bit, easily pocketable) and it can roughly double battery life. Slightly less convenient than a spare Nexus One battery, but easier to charge, store and use, as well as being able to use it with ANY usb device.
does anybody know if the battery guage will be able to recalculate for the bigger battery? i had that problem on the tilt/htc tytn II and that was really annoying because you have a bigger battery but no idea what the actual charge is
The Seidio is too expensive.
I would rather buy Momax from Hong Kong.
any luck on ebay?
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I picked up one of http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FU6KF2/ref=oss_product
It's a charger, works with any gadget that uses USB, it's TINY (smaller than the phone itself by a good bit, easily pocketable) and it can roughly double battery life. Slightly less convenient than a spare Nexus One battery, but easier to charge, store and use, as well as being able to use it with ANY usb device.
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I picked up a 5000mah external pack recently, which is about 3 times greater than the typical external battery. Works great. Charges the phone up 3 or 4 times over with no problem.
I've just ordered a wind up charger.
5 mins winding gives about 30 mins on the phone, it'll be good for geocaching, as we often run out on the difficult ones!
only £8
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I've just ordered a wind up charger.
5 mins winding gives about 30 mins on the phone, it'll be good for geocaching, as we often run out on the difficult ones!
only £8
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Can you share the link or site whre you ordered this?
Thanks,
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Can you share the link or site whre you ordered this?
Thanks,
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Here you go, noticed they're out of stock now though, but they will be sold in loads of places!
http://www.gadgetshop.com/TechnoGad...274050.jsp?bmUID=1264799392131&bmLocale=en_GB
Just looked at the site and they're going to have a "Super Extended" battery coming out soon, though this one will be larger thus bringing it's own back cover. I think I'll wait for them to release that before choosing.
Check this out in ebay.
Good price too.
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Check "link" out in ebay.
Good price too.
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uh...that's the same capacity as the stock battery.....
Just ordered one. Extra battery life is worth it to me.
We need to find out if anyone has a battery that is bigger than 1500 mah. It looks like the Optimus 2x uses the same battery so I would hope someone has a 1650 or 1800 mah out there. Let me know if a source is found. It would be nice to have an external wall charger as well.
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Or maybe a dock with spare battery charger on the back to at least hold a stock battery to charge
Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
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Check on Ebay every few days. I haven't seen one yet but they make it for most phones. The batteries are thicker than the standard ones and it also comes with a different rear cover to accept the thicker battery. It is usually from China and around $15 or so.
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the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
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the optimus 2x has been out for a while, and there's nothing yet.. I agree.. probably will be out soon. too bad they can't pack more punch into the same size.. don't want to make my phone any thicker.. I'll have a case for it where it wont' fit in then..
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Sometimes there are extended batteries made that are the same exact size as the stock one but have a larger capacity. For example, I bought a Seidio extended 1750mAh battery for my Droid X which was the same size as the original battery but had about 250 more mAh to it...it gave me a couple more hours on one charge. Hopefully something similar is made for the G2X!
Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
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Maybe a bunch of us should just write to seidio and ask them to start on developing one for us...
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Lol good idea...here's their twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/seidioseidio
Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2x1600mAh-B...&ps=63&clkid=8677498459030269031#ht_675wt_936
http://www.rpasonline.com/pd-1600-mah-battery-for-lg-optimus-2x.cfm
If they make a extended batt That's the same size, ill def get it. I don't want a bigger one cause it will cause problems with my car and house dock.
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That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.
Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
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That's the nice thing about the Seidio ones. They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery. They aren't too terribly expensive, either. I am thinking for now, though, I may have to give one of those ebay ones with the separate battery charger a try....I have had good luck with ebay laptopt batteries, so....it might be worth the $20 for it.
Also, I will start spamming Seidio's twitter. Lol.
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Seidio slim extended batteries are usually way lower than what they state. Just run a quick search on here...bottom line, you may as well use the stock battery in most cases.
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They are a legit company, and they can usually squeeze an extra 150-400 mAh out of the standard size battery.
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Actually, they just re-label their inferior batteries with bigger mAh numbers and make a big profit for their efforts.
No company has ever made a legitimate higher capacity OEM size battery ever.
I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
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I've spend hundreds of dollars on batteries just to rip them apart, document my findings and test.
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This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
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This is what I have always suspected. Can you give a link to a writeup of your findings?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47
http://batteryboss.org/
Agreed. Seidio does make some legit extended batteries, like the 2500 and 3500 mAh one's they put out for the EVO and Droid X, etc... but the ones that are the same size as the stock battery don't hold any extra juice, they take advantage of the loop hole in the rules concerning how companies can label batteries.
Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
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Batteries have a range of mAh that they hold. Say the battery in our device has a range of 1300 to 1700 mAh, most companies will use the average and label the battery at 1500 mAh. Seidio on the other hand will label theirs on the high end of the range at 1700 mAh, which is perfectly within their right to do, but is rather deceiving to the consumer.
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There is no range. All the OEM batteries I've tested were within 3% of their tagged rating.
Regarding Seidio, there is no explanation as to why their "same size & higher capacity" batteries consistently deliver less power than an OEM battery.
But don't let me stop anyone from buying their snake oil.
Regarding Mugen, that first link shows a disassembled 3000mAh battery that contained 2 1200mAh cells. I call it fraud, plain and simple. They all do it, I've proved it.
i just ended up getting this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000N63AC6 . i have a body glove case and they're a pain to snap off everytime i want to replace my battery while at work. for me, this is much easier.
now if they made a good extended battery with a custom back cover like i had on my g1, i'd get it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2097942&postcount=47
http://batteryboss.org/
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You ever tested any of the batteries from htc express? Those seem to work well.
Currently I am using Veho 5Ah external battery while I am waiting for 2 more batteries.
With regular microUSB cable, it works fine.
http://www.jr.com/veho/pe/VEH_VCCA007PBP/
$35 isn't bad at all.
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Seems kind of shady (these batteries are running for $5-10 a piece) but here's what I found, 1600mah, haha:
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Definitely stay away from the 1600mah. I saw those and I emailed one of the buyers.. and asked him for his input on the battery b4 I made a purchase. He said "stay away, they are junk and only hold a charge for a couple of hours. save your money."
Hi Guys,
i got my S4 9505 from 1 month and i very very happy with it..also for good battery life, but we have removable battery and maybe there is some battery better than original..
I looking for a battery with the original size dimension but more big than the original..but above all really big.. not only write on it.. but it must to be really extended..
if someone use some battery extended with original size and is certain that is extended can give me information about your battery life, screen on time and link for buy it?
Thanks
No suggestions?
Please note it is not physically possible to accommodate more capacity into the battery for the same size, if that was possible I guess samsung would had done that for us. However why not purchase extra charger and battery case made by samsung.
But I do see Mugen doing a change by providing 2750mAh battery of same size. Check here at amazon.
Or you might have to get large extended battery and find the best the chose from.
I think battery up to 3500 mAh on ebay can suited the original back cover (according to seller description). Many of those selling these batteries on ebay, but I still haven't try one. Maybe later I'll try.
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I think battery up to 3500 mAh on ebay can suited the original back cover (according to seller description). Many of those selling these batteries on ebay, but I still haven't try one. Maybe later I'll try.
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No, impossible. They claim to be 3500's but the are not. Most/all of the aftermarket high(er) capacity batteries are bogus, capacity wise.
above user is correct, don't go for chinese counterfeits claiming 3500 in same capacity and dimensions. I think the mugen is the only one out there, but its rather a stupidity.
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No, impossible. They claim to be 3500's but the are not. Most/all of the aftermarket high(er) capacity batteries are bogus, capacity wise.
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above user is correct, don't go for chinese counterfeits claiming 3500 in same capacity and dimensions. I think the mugen is the only one out there, but its rather a stupidity.
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Ah, my bad then. Luckily I haven't buy those.
thanks for the info
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But I do see Mugen doing a change by providing 2750mAh battery of same size. Check here at amazon.
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Seems good, but only 150mAh for $44.95 is too much, to much expensive for only 150mAh..
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Or you might have to get large extended battery and find the best the chose from.
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thanks, but i dont wanna buy extended battery can change the beautiful design.. im looking for more capacity battery with original size..
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I think battery up to 3500 mAh on ebay can suited the original back cover (according to seller description). Many of those selling these batteries on ebay, but I still haven't try one. Maybe later I'll try.
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thanks, if you try some battery please tell me..
i found this http://www.ebay.it/itm/ZeroLemon-2x...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item19e14ab68c&_uhb=1
its seems 3000mAh.. but i dont know this ZeroLemon and if this battery are good..
someone know or use this 3000mAh ZeroLemon?
Ps. Thanks guys for your replys :good:
I had a Zero Lemon slim extended battery on my SGS3. It was 2400mah vs the stock 2100. It was pretty good, giving an extra 30-45 minutes or so extra screen time and another 90-120 minutes of run time. If you find you're just cutting it close at the end of the day and you can't charge mid-day, it's worth the $20 for a pair of them plus a charger. You can get them on Amazon too. I haven't bought the S4 versions yet but I plan to - my wife and I can each get a little more battery life for a total of $20 that way.
You lose NFC, though. that's probably why they have a higher capacity - no NFC antenna. If you use that feature, or S-Beam or whatever, skip the Zero Lemons.
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I had a Zero Lemon slim extended battery on my SGS3. It was 2400mah vs the stock 2100. It was pretty good, giving an extra 30-45 minutes or so extra screen time and another 90-120 minutes of run time. If you find you're just cutting it close at the end of the day and you can't charge mid-day, it's worth the $20 for a pair of them plus a charger. You can get them on Amazon too. I haven't bought the S4 versions yet but I plan to - my wife and I can each get a little more battery life for a total of $20 that way.
You lose NFC, though. that's probably why they have a higher capacity - no NFC antenna. If you use that feature, or S-Beam or whatever, skip the Zero Lemons.
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Thanks, usefull Comment :good:
Hi guys,
nobody have tryed this battery http://www.ebay.it/itm/ZeroLemon-2x...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item19e14ab68c&_uhb=1 on GS4?
I'd like to know if is good battery, if is not dangerous and if is true extendend..
thanks
I ended up with a Hyperion because it would fit the Seidio Extended (and it did perfectly). I was not at all impressed with the reviews on teh 3000mah ZeroLemon because it seems like it was thicker than the stock battery and put a bit of a bulge on the battery door. I was afraid it would not fit cases properly so I skipped it.
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Hi guys,
nobody have tryed this battery http://www.ebay.it/itm/ZeroLemon-2x...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item19e14ab68c&_uhb=1 on GS4?
I'd like to know if is good battery, if is not dangerous and if is true extendend..
thanks
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these are actually 3000mAh !!
just youtube .....
u can see that it fits the stock battery cover and yes it gives about 1hr of extra screen time ....
zerolemon is a good buy compared to stock
anuj6111 said:
these are actually 3000mAh !!
just youtube .....
u can see that it fits the stock battery cover and yes it gives about 1hr of extra screen time ....
zerolemon is a good buy compared to stock
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Thanks, but is really 3000mAh?
External charger and battery kit from samsung is the best choice for me
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Thanks, but is really 3000mAh?
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i researched a lot on zerolemon ...
their product is good and is as stated no scams !!
i couldnt buy it coz they were charging $19.99 + $17(shipping) and i bought the original samsung battery kit for $32 where i live .....
but i had researched a lot on the company before making the decision towards them.... only regret is samsung gave me 1 battery + charger 1.7mAh .... zerolemon was giving 2 batteries + chrager 600mAh.... so i basically traded only battery for a charger that charges a battery in 1hr and 30mins 0% --> 100% .....
so whats the best rate for getting a good 12 to 14 hour outta your batt
Hi Guys,
I've using the N4 for last 2 years here in India and I personally felt it is a great device in terms of build quality, screen size and looks and only downside I can see is the poor screen on time (SOT) or battery backup on stock battery.
Now my battery has almost died and need to replace it. While searching on AliExpress, there is a 3200 mAh capacity battery available for Nexus 4, though there is no review available. Though I can buy the original battery from eBay or ALiexpress, this high capacity battery looks very tempting to me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...attery-for-LG-E960-E975-E973/32306624153.html
Can you guys take a look and suggest me if it is okay yo go ahead with this one or I should stick with original battery capacity of 2100 mAh.
Your suggestion would be highly appreciated, and thanks in advance.
I've been thinking lately to replace mine too..
You should give it a.go and tell us results! It's a shame I can't order from aliexpress.
I doubt that you will be able to get a replacement battery (li-ion) that has the same physical dimensions, higher capacity and a lower price.
When things sounds to good to be true, it often is
I think you'll get a cheap battery with - at best - the same capacity as an original battery.
I would go for an original battery.
to_sukanta said:
Hi Guys,
I've using the N4 for last 2 years here in India and I personally felt it is a great device in terms of build quality, screen size and looks and only downside I can see is the poor screen on time (SOT) or battery backup on stock battery.
Now my battery has almost died and need to replace it. While searching on AliExpress, there is a 3200 mAh capacity battery available for Nexus 4, though there is no review available. Though I can buy the original battery from eBay or ALiexpress, this high capacity battery looks very tempting to me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...attery-for-LG-E960-E975-E973/32306624153.html
Can you guys take a look and suggest me if it is okay yo go ahead with this one or I should stick with original battery capacity of 2100 mAh.
Your suggestion would be highly appreciated, and thanks in advance.
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You can't squeeze more capacity into the same volume - that said, there are some battery manufacturers who can get an extra 10% or so. I remember buying one from a very reputable company in Switzerland several years ago for a phone, but I can't recall their name
So either them, if you can track them down, or an original battery. Stay away from batteries which promise enormous amounts of mah, or are just very cheap. The original is not a bad option since realistically the phone has a remaining life of a couple of years max.
Another very good option is to buy an external pack. For example a 5000mah pack occupies the same volume and weighs the same as a phone, and will provide plenty of spare capacity without adding weight or bulk to the phone (unless when you are using it, otherwise it can sit in a bag). NewTrent is a good brand, as is Xiaomi, good offers on Amazon.
(I got myself a Xiaomi 10,000mah battery pack which is technically really good but just too heavy and bulky)
That's fake, it's still 2100mAh, you can't squeeze more mAh from same size.
Thanks all for your helpful suggestion.
However I used a mobile long back from Nokia where I used a replacement battery from Nokia itself with same dimension but it used to provide extra battery backup. So my wild guess is technically it is possible to get 2500mah probably. If that is the case then also enough for my current 2yrs old battery is giving me around 2-2.5hrs of battery backup and don't want to plugin the power bank in my mobile (though I've xiaomi one in my home)
Another vote for "physics > spiel". You simply cannot get more mAH from the same dimensions. For the fella above who says he got more out of a replacement Nokia, it's entirely possible that the improvement in battery life was merely down to the age of the battery, as in, the one he was used to was tired and running out of charge cycles.
You can squeeze a little more power in the cell , these come highly recommended but not cheap.
to_sukanta said:
Thanks all for your helpful suggestion.
However I used a mobile long back from Nokia where I used a replacement battery from Nokia itself with same dimension but it used to provide extra battery backup. So my wild guess is technically it is possible to get 2500mah probably. If that is the case then also enough for my current 2yrs old battery is giving me around 2-2.5hrs of battery backup and don't want to plugin the power bank in my mobile (though I've xiaomi one in my home)
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Don't forget that it is possible for manufacturers to stack batteries and make them bigger (thicker). Nexus 4's non-removable back (glass!), fragile design make this impossible. I remember seeing a 6200mAh battery for my old Note 2, but you needed to use a custom back cover because of the added thickness. But the point is battery capacity is limited by it's density, so the only way to make a larger capacity battery is to make it bigger. Until we get some new battery technology with different density like graphite or whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-Uwmn2pCg