Hi,
For those with the POCO X3 Pro, what is the best GCam that is currently available to use - most stable, with better quality, etc....
I have tested some GCams from X3 NFC, but is a shot in the dark - some work, but i think is room to improve in the quality (could be some settings/configs too).
Maybe someone here found a specific one that works better
EDIT: This is my opinion after a few months: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-for-x3-pro.4256287/page-12#post-86486777
I also hope to have a good GCam soon. While Stock Cam seems good for video, I'm not happy with the photo quality: there seem to be some aggressive "beautify" settings and filters I could not deactivate yet. At least with my Redmi Note 7 on crDroid and GCam 7.4 I'm able to make much more satisfying photos.
ChriMo said:
I also hope to have a good GCam soon. While Stock Cam seems good for video, I'm not happy with the photo quality: there seem to be some aggressive "beautify" settings and filters I could not deactivate yet. At least with my Redmi Note 7 on crDroid and GCam 7.4 I'm able to make much more satisfying photos.
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The main camera is good, but of course GCam is always better
I have tested some Gcam versions and they seem to work - most only for photos and there still tweaks to be done... For vídeo yeah, don't use GCam at all.
But maybe someone found a config/version that works best
Since X3 Pro has the IMX582 main sensor I looked which other devices (from Xiaomi) have the same - see on deviceranks.com:
POCO M3 - xda GCam thread (Nikita 7.4.104 and Wichaya 1.8.3 mod dicussed)
XIAOMI MI 9T / XIAOMI REDMI K20 - xda GCam thread (URNYX) - GCam MIUI thread (Urnyx, Parrot with config hidynamic v12)
XIAOMI REDMI K40
Will try later.
I'm trying this:
NGCam_7.4.104-v2.0_eng.apk
drive.google.com
And it is working properly, thanks @ChriMo
sergiota23 said:
I'm trying this:
NGCam_7.4.104-v2.0_eng.apk
drive.google.com
And it is working properly, thanks @ChriMo
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This works like a charm!
Is even possible activate the extra sensors in the "Advance" setting. We can use the deph sensor, macro, wide and (of course) main sensor
Nice. I installed NGCam_7.4.104-v2.0_cam.apk (com.ngcam.camera) which should allow to try other GCams alongside. Here is the Nikita folder @ celsoazevedo - he already works on the 8.1 version.
The 7.4.104 version so far seems to work fine also for me. Unfortunately in the Config directory I could not find any model with the same main sensor, as I would expect some optimization might be possible.
I plan to compare to the Redmi Note 7 GCam pictures in the same conditions to have a comparison. I was strongly hoping the 48 MP IMX582 Exmor RS would provide at least the same experience as the 48 MP ISOCELL GM1 in the RN7, at least deviceranks.com lists it slightly better (#32 vs. #39). So far I'm not sure but still hope the combination with the powerful CPU allows a good experience. With my RN7 beside Night Pictures I'm pretty happy.
Some quick test NGCam 7.4.104 v2.0 VS Stock cam app.
This is just a quick test, no config, just shots after install.
Stock:
https://imgur.com/vdkIM7X
NGCam:
https://imgur.com/DVtp9ax
NGCam (HDR+):
https://imgur.com/w7My0RE
Night Mode:
Stock:
https://imgur.com/s8Oitgf
NGCam:
https://imgur.com/MSaqmjF
Second Test Night Mode:
Stock: https://imgur.com/Kl1NzM7
NGCam: https://imgur.com/tksbAZV
Of course, night mode is still the best using NGCam.
But i actually prefer the Stock camera for regular photos - more saturated colors, but NGCam have more natural tones.
I downloaded the Gcam below and it works out of the box!
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
In the Telegram Poco X3 Photography group
a) member Park Q claims Marco's 7.3_GCam_MJL_v4.3_Minilux.apk (2020-08-31, oneplus 6/6t) is optimized for 582 and 586 sensor. He has also posted two configuration XML files (Flat & Zoom)
b) member Team XKlaus claims MGC_8.1.101_A9 (BSG, 2021-03/04) allows 4k @ 60fps
Searching for "IMX582 celsoazevedo" I found the following:
UltraCVM_v4.apk (UltraM8, 2020-05-10, configs)
UltraCam_3.2.3.apk (UltraM8, 2020-02-19, configs)
UltraM8 bases off Urnyx05 or Arnova8G2 versions with additions and tunings ... with main focus on the IMX586 sensor (primary device Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro).
In Config Files for burial's GCam 7.2.x there is Xiaomi Mi A3 » mi-a3-x.j.b.-ver.1.xml which contains the string: Main Sensor: IMX582 (same as IMX586 without 4K and Stab
(Xiaomi Mi A3 has Sony IMX586 Exmor RS)
I need to look into this but share so we may find some basic optimization based on existing IMX582(586) configs what GCams might be good.
Just to clarify my focus:
a) good natural daylight main cam pictures (no oversharpening, no oversaturation, etc.)
b) 1080p 24fps EIS ExtraSmooth (Steady) Videos (no refocus, no pumping, no artefacts) possibly with UltraWide for less crop
c) Special Features like 1) Time Lapse 2) Slow motion 3) Night etc.
d) 4k 24fps EIS as good as possible like 1080p
I made a GSheet comparison: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...kpsmnix1jUWCr2SMdPl_wprc8/edit#gid=1775206814
ChriMo said:
Nice. I installed NGCam_7.4.104-v2.0_cam.apk (com.ngcam.camera) which should allow to try other GCams alongside. Here is the Nikita folder @ celsoazevedo - he already works on the 8.1 version.
The 7.4.104 version so far seems to work fine also for me. Unfortunately in the Config directory I could not find any model with the same main sensor, as I would expect some optimization might be possible.
I plan to compare to the Redmi Note 7 GCam pictures in the same conditions to have a comparison. I was strongly hoping the 48 MP IMX582 Exmor RS would provide at least the same experience as the 48 MP ISOCELL GM1 in the RN7, at least deviceranks.com lists it slightly better (#32 vs. #39). So far I'm not sure but still hope the combination with the powerful CPU allows a good experience. With my RN7 beside Night Pictures I'm pretty happy.
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I've tried to play with the configuration. I'm not a pro, first time I play with a GCam mod.
If anyone wants to test and share thoughts...
BtB said:
I've tried to play with the configuration. I'm not a pro, first time I play with a GCam mod.
If anyone wants to test and share thoughts...
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Does it incorporate the sensors used in x3p?
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Does it incorporate the sensors used in x3p?
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You can use the 3 sensors, but only found in settings the main one havng specifc support.
I'm not sure what's the benefit though...
As I said, I'm a kind of newbie here So I tried to configure things to what made sense to me, like enabling pixel bining, but some might prefer to disable it to have pics with better definition...
Happy to hear feedback and suggestions, if we get a good xml file we could post it on Nikita folder @ celsoazevedo
In the Telegram Poco X3 Photography group there are a lot of XML files now mainly for
MGC by BSG (preferred by most it seems)
NGCam by Nikita
User P.A. likes CamStellar
Another user (can't find the post) stated Arnova is working on X3P optimization.
Preview of pics might only work after you change gallery settings in options.
Member Park Q, Suresh Dreamer and others stated that the basic color balance / white balance setup in the Xiaomi Firmware is bad and can not be fixed with GCam+XML or even with RAW. I also noticed a slight magenta shift/tint in pics (less in videos), which seems less "natural" then on my other smartphone cams. So with vidoes I'm happy, with Pics I have not found yet a "natural" outcome.
I have this version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1500/
It is optimized for IMX582 sensor: Everything works perfectly. The best config is: (damm10-best-mi-9t-v4.xml)
You can find it under the link to Xiaomi Mi 9T / Redmi K20, which have the same sensor as Poco X3 Pro.
Config Files for Urnyx's GCam 7.3.x
Stable settings for Urnyx's GCam 7.3.x with xml config files support.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Rigveda86 said:
I have this version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1500/
It is optimized for IMX582 sensor: Everything works perfectly. The best config is: (damm10-best-mi-9t-v4.xml)
You can find it under the link to Xiaomi Mi 9T / Redmi K20, which have the same sensor as Poco X3 Pro.
Config Files for Urnyx's GCam 7.3.x
Stable settings for Urnyx's GCam 7.3.x with xml config files support.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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According to guys on Telegram, this is not on par with other ports.
NGCAM is still seen as best overall (especially in low light), MGC being a bit more natural in colors in good light conditions.
If some people are not on Telegram and want to get the XML files for NGCAM and MGC, they can be shared here too.
BtB said:
According to guys on Telegram, this is not on par with other ports.
NGCAM is still seen as best overall (especially in low light), MGC being a bit more natural in colors in good light conditions.
If some people are not on Telegram and want to get the XML files for NGCAM and MGC, they can be shared here too.
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I tried different versions, including NGcam, and in each of them something didn't work and the application crashed. I'm really happy with this version, because it works without any problems and is very stable, including video. There are not unnecessarily many settings as in the new versions, which the average person does not understand anyway and was directly optimized for Redmi K 20 (40) and Mi 9T, which have the same sensor as Poco. Night mode also works great and the quality of the photos is much better than with stock cam. Just a minor edit: After trying different settings, I think, the most universal config I have the best experience with under different conditions, is this: AIO-Mevcetin-Urnyx05.xml
If someone wants to have the latest version, it's ok, but unfortunately at the cost of lower stability.
Rigveda86 said:
I tried different versions, including NGcam, and in each of them something didn't work and the application crashed. I'm really happy with this version, because it works without any problems and is very stable, including video. There are not unnecessarily many settings as in the new versions, which the average person does not understand anyway and was directly optimized for Redmi K 20 (40) and Mi 9T, which have the same sensor as Poco. Night mode also works great and the quality of the photos is much better than with stock cam. Just a minor edit: After trying different settings, I think, the most universal config I have the best experience with under different conditions, is this: AIO-Mevcetin-Urnyx05.xml
If someone wants to have the latest version, it's ok, but unfortunately at the cost of lower stability.
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No issue if you prefer that build of course, was just trying to brdige discussions between Telegram and XDA
One clarification as well, I've not seen anyone trying to race for latest version, all comments are around functionalities and picture qualitiy.
Btw, MGC now has new XML with EIS enabled.
I like the "steady video" function in the Stock Cam v4.3 because it is very smooth even if with substantial crop.
GCam MGC 8.1.101 lets select from four video stabilisation modes: Standard, Locked (2xZoom), Active, Cinematic Pan (1/2 Speed muted) but none seems similar to Stock steady.
So I am seeking for a GCam which has similar smooth steady EIS as Stock.
For Photography because the lack of serious and comprehensive comparisons I'm still undecided what I prefer: Stock. MGC or another GCam. MGC at least seems to be the more "natural". NGC (haven't tried myself) seems to be better in low light but does color boost/saturation.
BtB said:
No issue if you prefer that build of course, was just trying to brdige discussions between Telegram and XDA
One clarification as well, I've not seen anyone trying to race for latest version, all comments are around functionalities and picture qualitiy.
Btw, MGC now has new XML with EIS enabled.
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That's the GCam version I prefer to use anyway, thanks for the update. I would like to try out the XML, but it's not available on the MGC's download page.