Hi all, hope all is well. I encountered a problem on my OPO and I didn't manage to solve it, even after searching and reading relevant threads on this forum.
Currently my OPO (not rooted) is running Android 4.4.4 (stock Cyanogen OS 11.0). I am still running Android 4.4.4 as when Lollipop was issued many complained of battery drain issues so I didn't update. Yesterday, Google Play Services updated automatically to version 9.0.82. After the update Chrome, Play Store, Gmail and Google Now are exiting as soon as I try to use them. Thus, I decided to uninstall the Google Play Services updates and I manually installed a version (8.7.03) that doesn't cause the problems mentioned. However, this morning when I connected to WiFi, Google Play Services updated and the problems restarted.
Does anybody know how I can prevent Google Play Services from automatically updating please? If this is not possible, I am considering updating to Marshmallow with Cyanogen OS 13. Is it possible to update to the latter without updating to Lollipop please? Moreover, does the OPO suffer from major bugs/ issues when running Marshmallow please?
p.s: previously I denied both "keep awake" and "wake up" in the Privacy Guard menu of Google Play Services as it fixed the message "Unfortunately Google Play Services has stopped". Yet, this message is appearing again every time I connect to WiFi.
Many thanks, much appreciated!
Hi,
I've got a high battery drain problem with the latest Google Play Services (cmasystemupdateservices causing the wavelock).
There are a couple of reddits about this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/4jmw74/cmasystemupdateservice_wakelock/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQue..._is_cmasystemupdateservice_its_preventing_my/
but no solution.
I'm running 4.4.4 as well, but my wife's Lollipop phone doesn't have this issue. Given that its an update service causing the issue I wonder if this is Google's way of getting us to upgrade!
If this was affecting all Android phones I'd expect to see more of an outcry about it.
Regards.
I too have this problem. Now have to rolled back to stock play services. Any solution?
Unchecked all in Google play settings
@pda1ey thanks for the Reddit links! Unfortunately, as you mentioned they don't offer solutions to our problems.
@vl319 did Google Play Services autoupdate even though you rolled back to stock version please?
@drmuruga I think Google Play Services still autoupdates with those settings unticked.
Thanks to all for your feedback hope we find a solution.
After i rolled back to stock version, it doesn't auto update until now. But u will keep getting message saying apps wont run until play services is updated.... But it is fine for me.. I tried to reset app preference, disable greenify, amplify, privacy guard but none of these work. Probably we have to wait for new update or reinstall the device
vl319 said:
After i rolled back to stock version, it doesn't auto update until now. But u will keep getting message saying apps wont run until play services is updated.... But it is fine for me.. I tried to reset app preference, disable greenify, amplify, privacy guard but none of these work. Probably we have to wait for new update or reinstall the device
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I will follow your suggestion and roll back to stock Play Services. When I manually install Google Play Services 8.7.03 it automatically updates to 9.0.82 after a couple of hours. When you had version 9.0.82 were Gmail and Chrome force closing? Thanks!
I experience same problem on my wife's 4.4. cm and on my 5.1.1 android. Google play services automaticily updated to 9.0 and since then all google related apps is force closing. I noticed, that if I uncheck everything under google play services in privacy guard, apps will work, but then my phone's battery will go down the drain . Is it possible, that Google play services update only, when I open Play store and not completely automaticly?
solidstate94 said:
I will follow your suggestion and roll back to stock Play Services. When I manually install Google Play Services 8.7.03 it automatically updates to 9.0.82 after a couple of hours. When you had version 9.0.82 were Gmail and Chrome force closing? Thanks!
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I am using official COS13 and its stock version is 8.3.01, older than 8.7.03 and it doesn't auto update to new version. and i have no problem of syncing contact, calendar, keep and etc.
@vl319 my stock version is version 5. That's why I tried solving the issue by updating manually to 8.7.03. Unfortunately, my stock version is not compatible with the Apps I use. Thanks for the clarification!
@ircman maybe you can update to a newer version of Google Play Services on your phone to solve the issue. For instance, update to 9.0.83 or 9.0.82. Another user (drmuruga) in a previous post suggested to turn off automatic updates in the Play Store. However, I don't know if it works because I haven't tried it myself.
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@vl319 my stock version is version 5. That's why I tried solving the issue by updating manually to 8.7.03. Unfortunately, my stock version is not compatible with the Apps I use. Thanks for the clarification!
@ircman maybe you can update to a newer version of Google Play Services on your phone to solve the issue. For instance, update to 9.0.83 or 9.0.82. Another user (drmuruga) in a previous post suggested to turn off automatic updates in the Play Store. However, I don't know if it works because I haven't tried it myself.
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Sorry, I wasn't exact, now I am using 9.0.83. The problem apeared when the Google Play Services updated automaticaly to 9.0.83. Until that moment the phone and all the apps were working flawlesly. I belive that is something wrong with the newest version of Google Play Services, or that they don't want us to block things like Keep Awake, Location, Wake up, Auto Start (this things drains battery really fast).
Probably the only solution for now is to downgrade Google Play Services, and to somehow block automatic updates for Google Play Services.
@ircman as regards blocking the things you mentioned, I think you still can block them if you want.
Moreover, you can manually uninstall the updates of Google Play Services to temporarily solve the problem. Then either stick with the stock Play Services (vl319 clarified in a previous post that it won't auto update but some Apps might not work) or install a version of Play Services that doesn't cause problems as I did. However, after a few hours it auto updates and the problems start again. Thus, you need to repeat this process (I am repeating this process on average twice daily).
If anybody comes up with a permanent solution or has some advice, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hello everyone
I have the same problem you exactly with "google play service" in 9.0.82 release.
it drains my battery and my GPS connection has become very very slow (over 5 min) while with the 8.7.03 release I had no worries.
I am also in version 4.4.4 and I have my wifi, my connection and my GPS data which are off all the time except when I need them.
If anyone has a solution I'm interested
bion59 said:
Hello everyone
I have the same problem you exactly with "google play service" in 9.0.82 release.
it drains my battery and my GPS connection has become very very slow (over 5 min) while with the 8.7.03 release I had no worries.
I am also in version 4.4.4 and I have my wifi, my connection and my GPS data which are off all the time except when I need them.
If anyone has a solution I'm interested
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My problem with Google Play Services 9.0.82 is not related to battery drain and GPS. On my OPO 9.0.82 is causing some Google Apps to FC (as I explained in the first post).
If your OPO is rooted there are some solutions on this forum on how to block Google Play Services from updating. tc
solidstate94 said:
My problem with Google Play Services 9.0.82 is not related to battery drain and GPS. On my OPO 9.0.82 is causing some Google Apps to FC (as I explained in the first post).
If your OPO is rooted there are some solutions on this forum on how to block Google Play Services from updating. tc
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OK thank you for your answer.
I actually did a search on the forum and I find an application that seems to do the job is "disable service" findable on the play store.
Please update to latest play services 9.2.xx. It solves the issue
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Please update to latest play services 9.2.xx. It solves the issue
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Thanks for letting us know! Just upgraded manually to 9.2.56, till now everything seems fine. I wish there is a method which can block Play Services from auto updating.
solidstate94 said:
Thanks for letting us know! Just upgraded manually to 9.2.56, till now everything seems fine. I wish there is a method which can block Play Services from auto updating.
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I know there is a feature in titanium backup that allows apps to detach it from the market. Wonder if it works for play services.
As I am using substratum, beta version of Google app will not be themed. And somehow the System app became beta version and I could not install non beta version. so I removed the Google app from the system and installed the normal version from the Google Play Store later on.
After that the Google assistant stop working on the wake word. Google Assistant works with the home button also. I tried each and every settings so that it can work by wakeword but it didn't work. Even when assistant is open - I cannot trigger assistant to listen to me, that means in-app triggering is also not working for me.
What should I do further?
Hi all,
I'm in need of urgent help. About a week ago my Assistant just start instantly crashing Google App as soon as I summoned it. Let me give you a little bit of background:
The problem:
When I summon the Assistant in any possible way (squeeze phone, corners gesture, via Updates tab in Google App) the Google app crashes instantly and the Assistant is not usable.
OS running
I was running Android 10 Beta 6 when this started, but today after the official update to Android 10 the bug still persists.
Things I've tryed
- Uninstalling Google App updates and install them again via Play Store
- Unistalling Google Play Services and installing them again via Play Store
- Trying Google App Beta
- Factory Reset with backup restore
- Factory Reset setting the phone as a new device
Nothing seems to work. I've posted this in the Android SubReddit, I have send the bug to Android, but nothing...no one seems to know how to fix this. I hope someone in here may know what may have been happening and give a hand.
Thanks!
Hi all,
I use a Moto E smartphone in which I uninstalled the Google app and all it's ok. Now I just got a new car that support Android auto, so I downloaded it on my smartphone but, when launched, it says me that I've to install Google app to proceed.
Is there any way to have the Android auto features (I mean, using apps like spotify, podcast, etc) without having to install the Google app on my smartphone?
Thanks in advance
Hello!
I found a number of threads asking the same question, but none of them have a good answer.
It seems to be that Android Auto requires some of the Google services.
You could try the pico or nano GApps and then use something like Titanium Backup to freeze portions Google you don't want or need.
Android auto requires Google Services Framework as well as Google Play Service in order to work on your Moto E smartphone.
Misunderstanding: on my phone Google Play and Google services are installed and active. What I uninstalled for a "Google-free" experince is the main Google app and some others ad Duo, etc...
But Android auto ask me to install the Google app (and this is obviously quite useless if you don't need it)
Is there any alternative?
Google-App and Google-Maps have to be installed.
But you can disable/freeze them.
Hello everyone!
First of all I hope that I didn't get the section wrong - if yes, just let me know
So, my dad have some big issue with Android System WebView in his car. He is pretty smart with technology so he was able to install his android system in car:
MCU Version: MTCE_MX_V3.73_1
Kernel Version: 4.19.111+
Compilation: rk3368-userdebug 10 QQ2A
Main goal for my dad is to use Internet Radios (stream) from APPS. After last update of Android System WebView every Radio app stopped working, like you turn them on, there is loading and app is going down. My dad uninstalled all up-dates from Android System WebView and apps started working properly (so we know where problem is) BUUUUUT, even when he TURNED OFF AUTO UPDATE on APP settings, and also on Google Play settings, his system updated it anyway.
Now we got problem because after this update, he can NOT use Chrome app or EVEN GOOGLE PLAY so actually he can not get into google play to uninstall updates. I know he did couple of factory resets to get back to properly working system but we need help for sure.
Any suggestions? We would like to make his radio apps working on, and how to force android TO NOT update this Android System WebView.
If You need some more informations just let me know, hope we can fix it.
Thanks!
You either stop all auto updates from the store settings or even better you disable auto updates for an application, once again from store, installed applications, find the application and turn auto updates off for it.
If you cannot open play store then maybe a reset is in need
GnFgr said:
You either stop all auto updates from the store settings or even better you disable auto updates for an application, once again from store, installed applications, find the application and turn auto updates off for it.
If you cannot open play store then maybe a reset is in need
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We already did, like I wrote " even when he TURNED OFF AUTO UPDATE on APP settings, and also on Google Play settings, his system updated it anyway."
Thats the problem, we dont know why it was updated anyway after 2-3 days
Try WebView version 100.0.4896.127 from 04/14/2022. Chrome version: 100.0.4896.127 from 04/15/2022. Then disable updates for both.
You can use a VPN solution like afwall or tracker control to block internet access from play store, then update the apps using aurora store.
If magisk is installed you can get a proper solution to block access.
I use nanodroid system WebView module to have and "old" bromite WebView that isn't updated unless I do it. I don't update it because all webviews (chromium, bromite, mulch, google ...) stop working on my px6 with a recent version.
What about rooting the device and then using LuckyPatcher or something similar to delete it? I've been using LP on my phones for years, I haven't figured out how to safely root my PX6 RK3399 stereo yet but I'm looking around as I'm writing this.