Hi all,
I use a Moto E smartphone in which I uninstalled the Google app and all it's ok. Now I just got a new car that support Android auto, so I downloaded it on my smartphone but, when launched, it says me that I've to install Google app to proceed.
Is there any way to have the Android auto features (I mean, using apps like spotify, podcast, etc) without having to install the Google app on my smartphone?
Thanks in advance
Hello!
I found a number of threads asking the same question, but none of them have a good answer.
It seems to be that Android Auto requires some of the Google services.
You could try the pico or nano GApps and then use something like Titanium Backup to freeze portions Google you don't want or need.
Android auto requires Google Services Framework as well as Google Play Service in order to work on your Moto E smartphone.
Misunderstanding: on my phone Google Play and Google services are installed and active. What I uninstalled for a "Google-free" experince is the main Google app and some others ad Duo, etc...
But Android auto ask me to install the Google app (and this is obviously quite useless if you don't need it)
Is there any alternative?
Google-App and Google-Maps have to be installed.
But you can disable/freeze them.
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Hello, community! I recently bought a Chinese tablet and one of the first things I did was to install Google Play and Google Play Services via apk, I also added my Google account. The problem is that after loading for a while it says: 'The application Google Play Store has closed unexpectedly'. The amazing thing is that it pops up a notification that there are updates for my apps! Also the tablet shows up in my Google account as a device. The other applications that require Google Play services (like youtube and google now) run fine. My firmware version is 4.1.1. Also the download manager IS enabled. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Teogramm said:
Hello, community! I recently bought a Chinese tablet and one of the first things I did was to install Google Play and Google Play Services via apk, I also added my Google account. The problem is that after loading for a while it says: 'The application Google Play Store has closed unexpectedly'. The amazing thing is that it pops up a notification that there are updates for my apps! Also the tablet shows up in my Google account as a device. The other applications that require Google Play services (like youtube and google now) run fine. My firmware version is 4.1.1. Also the download manager IS enabled. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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This means that you have purchased a chinese style software configuration tablet. Thanks to encouragement by ccp policies towards google, many manufacturers (would you believe i have in my hands a samsung note 8 that does the same thing!) have stripped out the play store in favor of other alternatives. For me, i am going to root and flash this tablet and forget default aoftware is even something that exists.....
I have Samsung galaxy a50 ( a505f). I disable or removed all possible google products. I only use google play services and google play store. I do not use any google product. No gmail,youtube calender or sync android. If i also disable google play services and google play store + remove my google account from phone and instal apps from Amazon, appstore,appgalery or as apk from my browser. How will this affect my phone? And i do not know if apps i downloaded not from playstore gonna work normal and stabil. Notifications will work normal??? Are there any apps do not work without google play services? I know google cloud messaging is important. It looks like i only need google cloud messasing for now. How to replace gcm?? Without root.
Installing apps from outside of Google Play Store is a surefire way to put yourself in danger. By installing apps from third-party stores, you're bypassing security measures put in place to vet apps for malware threats, making it much easier for a hacker to infiltrate your device with an infected app .
Here on xda many people using root or open source apps. Let's say i bought a new phone and i did not add google account. I removed all possible google apps. I disabled all other google services i can not remove. I downloaded apps as apk files. Will apps update or send push notifications normally? That is all i need to learn. The apps i use are outlook,twitter,signal,telegram,duckduckgo,yandex navi,onedrive and samsung cloud for sync and back up. I do not use any google apps or facebook,whatsapp,instagram, messenger. I just do not know what will be effected with removing google account from phone and disabling google play services. I just need few apps keep sending notifications.
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Installing apps from outside of Google Play Store is a surefire way to put yourself in danger. By installing apps from third-party stores, you're bypassing security measures put in place to vet apps for malware threats, making it much easier for a hacker to infiltrate your device with an infected app .
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^Truth^
At the very least scan any apks you intend to side load online with Virustotal. Just downloading them onto an Android without installing them isn't without risk. I side load only 2 or 3 apks from trusted sources.
You can download from Playstore then disable it, all apps will still function. I do this all the time.
Google Play Services* is needed for Playstore to run as well as some none Google apps.
You can then use ApkExport to copy your apps so you don't need to use Playstore next time you need to reload the OS. You save system apk updates as well so a full reload is possible with little or no internet connection. I store these on my SD card but a PC can be used.
Use Karma Firewall to block all the Google junk.
You can easily enable apks if needed.
It's freeware and uses very little battery.
*block Google Play Services with Karma Firewall when not using Playstore. A reboot will be needed after it's enabled for Playstore to work. GPS will waste battery by constantly connecting to the internet (4 times @ minute) if not firewall blocked.
After debloating the N20U (unlocked, Android 11/One UI 3.0), I removed the Google Play Store and Google Play Services.
I kept Google Services Framework installed because after uninstalling it (Android 10 and up), I noticed losing the function to move apps to external storage.
Since I uninstalled Google Play Services, I no longer can transfer files via bluetooth, Samsung's Quick Share or Wi-Fi Direct.
Bluetooth can connect to other devices (example: bluetooth speaker) and works.
Does anyone know a solution to this other than reinstalling Google Play Services?
What is UnifiedNip? I noticed it listed in my installed F-droid apps when Google Play Services is installed on the phone.
Will it work on an unrooted phone/Android 11 and provide location services?
I tried one of the apps listed in F-droid, but it could not locate the devices (had device discovery on) to transfer files via bluetooth.
After resetting Network settings, I was able to transfer files via bluetooth from the N20U to the N9 by pairing the devices, turning on Nearby device scanning, and Location.
Cannot figure out how to use Samsung's Quick Share w/out Google Play Services installed. Haven't tested Samsung's Private Share yet to see if it will work (both devices require SIM...)
Use a package disabler, enable as needed and/or Karma Firewall to block it as needed.
I leave GPS enabled but firewall block it unless needed. Framework and Google Backup Transport are always disabled (on my 10+ running on Pie this causes no issues).
Running apks from the SD card is counterproductive.
Instead try using the SD card as a data drive and the internal memory for apks and downloads.
Thank you, @blackhawk!
I have used NetGuard (F-droid version) as a firewall, and wondered if it would be okay to use?
I have the Google Services Framework on my device, but uninstalled Google Play Services and the Play Store via adb.
If Google Play Services is installed on a device, can it be disabled using a package disabler without causing issues?
Have the pro version of Package Disabler, but have noticed that people have had problems using it on Android 11.
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Running apks from the SD card is counterproductive.
Instead try using the SD card as a data drive and the internal memory for apks and downloads.
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Okay, will do, and many thank you's for your advice!
jsusang said:
Thank you, @blackhawk!
I have used NetGuard (F-droid version) as a firewall, and wondered if it would be okay to use?
I have the Google Services Framework on my device, but uninstalled Google Play Services and the Play Store via adb.
If Google Play Services is installed on a device, can it be disabled using a package disabler without causing issues?
Have the pro version of Package Disabler, but have noticed that people have had problems using it on Android 11.
Okay, will do, and many thank you's for your advice!
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You're welcome. I would not uninstall Google Play Services. Gmail needs it and likely has other dependencies as well.
Firewall blocking it effectively cuts down its battery usage. Rather than package block it I firewall block it* and enable it as needed.
A package blocker is probably better than using ADB because you can enable/disable on the fly with a reboot being needed at the most.
*I tried it both ways. Package blocking it was overkill.
I am going to follow your much appreciated advice by reinstalling Google Play Services and using NetGuard to block it, @blackhawk .
Does Google collect location information on a device if you do not login w/ your Google account?
jsusang said:
I am going to follow your much appreciated advice by reinstalling Google Play Services and using NetGuard to block it, @blackhawk .
Does Google collect location information on a device if you do not login w/ your Google account?
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I don't trust it at all, one of the reasons I keep it Firewall blocked except when needed.
If you go into your Google account in settings you can tone it down. Go through all it's settings including the online ones, for gmail and gmaps. Disable auto sync for gmail; sync manually as needed.
Disable and firewall block Google Backup Transport and Framework unless you use Google backup. Same for all cloud junk unless you use it. Disable Google, carrier and Samsung feedback as it just wastes your resources and bleds info.
It's a mess...
I wonder if I can create two (or more) user profiles on my android device, one of which I will use only open source stuff and everything else on the other.
As far as I know, it is possible to create several user profiles in Android that are isolated from each other.
I would probably install LineageOS for this as it doesn't have google play services pre-installed on it and it seems very "clean" in terms of these things (I have never used this system).
There is something like OpenGApps that allows you to install google play services but as far as I know it requires installation from twrp. So I suspect google play services will then be installed for all user profiles on the device.
So is there any possibility to install google services for one user only?
I also know that there is such a thing as microg (and Aurora stora). When I heard that there was such a thing as "LineageOS for microG" I thought it would be a very good option (on one android profile I just wouldn't use microg). But later I also found out that it is supposedly against the google policy and that they can ban my account for it, which I would prefer to avoid.
So I wanted to ask if the only option to do this is to install LineageOS, check what applications are installed by default, install OpenGApps to it and then disable all google related applications on one of the user profiles?
Does such disabling the application also ensure that Google will not be able to "work" on my device in any way? Does OpenGApps install any system level google stuff that will run in the background anyway?
And are OpenGApps not something that I should not install when I don't want to get a google ban?
You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.
Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.
GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
Google Play Store,
Google Now,
Google Play Music,
Google Maps,
Google+,
Gmail,
Google Photos,
Youtube
and the Android Device Manager.
Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
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You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.
Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.
GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
Google Play Store,
Google Now,
Google Play Music,
Google Maps,
Google+,
Gmail,
Google Photos,
Youtube
and the Android Device Manager.
Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
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Thanks for the clarification, although I still don't really know what you meant. I thought that google play services is the name for all those components that are needed to run, for example, the google play store. If the google play store needs also other components (?), then when I wrote google play services, I meant all the components that are needed to run the play store.
In any case, I mean in practice whether I am able to install both the play store and the components needed for it only for one user in Android, but from what I understand it is not possible in your opinion.
The questions at the end of my post probably still remain the same. I can only clarify that I meant more general cases in these questions:
Does installing the play store (along with the necessary components) install any system-level Google stuff that will run in the background anyway even if I disable these apps?
And isn't installing the play store (along with the necessary components) by hand something that I shouldn't be doing when I want to avoid a Google ban?
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Google Play Store simply is an ordinary user app as any other user app, too, nothing else. It itself installs , except some Android OS libraries, nothing. Only thing is it requires Google Play Services ( which are running in background ) to properly run. As already said: Google Play Services can only get installed once because it extends Android OS. And Android OS always is the same for all created users.
Don't understand what you mean with "Google ban".
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I would probably install LineageOS for this as it doesn't have google play services pre-installed on it and it seems very "clean" in terms of these things (I have never used this system).
There is something like OpenGApps that allows you to install google play services but as far as I know it requires installation from twrp. So I suspect google play services will then be installed for all user profiles on the device.
So is there any possibility to install google services for one user only?
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You can install those apps but you have to flash it via recovery. Also, you need to do that prior to booting into the os for the first time, which I think is related to encryption.
If you already booted into your os, you need to boot into recovery and perform a factory data reset, then flash those gapps (as far as I know dirty flashing those gapps will introduce instability to those gapps. That's why you need a factory data reset).
Keep in mind that factory reseting will delete all your person data.
After you flashed it, those gapps will be available for every user
Dani3I said:
I also know that there is such a thing as microg (and Aurora stora). When I heard that there was such a thing as "LineageOS for microG" I thought it would be a very good option (on one android profile I just wouldn't use microg). But later I also found out that it is supposedly against the google policy and that they can ban my account for it, which I would prefer to avoid.
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Aurora Store provides an anonymous google account. It's data isn't linked to you which means they cannot ban your account.
Dani3I said:
So I wanted to ask if the only option to do this is to install LineageOS, check what applications are installed by default, install OpenGApps to it and then disable all google related applications on one of the user profiles?
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LOS comes without any google apps preinstalled. So first flash LOS, then OpenGApps (follow their official guide. They describe it there).
And yes, after that you have to disable every google app you don't want to use for every new user profile.
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Does such disabling the application also ensure that Google will not be able to "work" on my device in any way? Does OpenGApps install any system level google stuff that will run in the background anyway?
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If you disable it for the current user, it won't run in any way, yes.
OpenGApps itself shouldn't install anything on system level. But those apps will be installed on system level since you flash them to the system (using your recovery). However, if you disable them they won't run in the background.
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And are OpenGApps not something that I should not install when I don't want to get a google ban?
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I don't know.
jwoegerbauer said:
You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.
Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.
GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
Google Play Store,
Google Now,
Google Play Music,
Google Maps,
Google+,
Gmail,
Google Photos,
Youtube
and the Android Device Manager.
Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
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Yep that's absolutely correct
Hi,
I have a new Ulefone Armor X9 Pro. I am personally annoyed by all the preinstalled Google Apps like Google Play (I prefer free softwares available in FDroid for example), the Google search bar on the home screen, etc...
The first thing I did is disable and force exit of all the google apps and now, whatever I try to do I have notifications telling anything would work with Google Play disabled...
Even writing a sms or search something in Google Chrome is not possible because the keyboard does not appear...
I think I could solve this problem by
- enabling Google Play back
or
- download apk files for fdroid, aptoid etc. and install them manually
or
- root the phone
or
- install an alternative android version
But I am a newbie and I am afraid of broking my new phone...
Could you help me find the better way to use my phone without being force to use google services ?
Thank you for your help
PS sorry for my poor english
You can replace the pre-installed proprietary Google apps basket ( read: GMS ) by an aftermarket suite called GApps as provided by different developers.
BTW: Google Play is not part of GMS.
Thank you for your answer.
But I cannot uninstall the google apps, I can only quit them and disable them.
And the final goal is to not use the google apps.
Fortunately, I succeeded in manually install the alternative apps I need.
First of all, when I first started the phone, I did not connect the internet.
Then, I exited and disabled all the google apps and services I found.
On my computer, I downloaded the apks :
- Fdroid package manager (for free/opensource apps)
- Fennek browser
- K9mail client
- Simple Contacts (Simple Mobile Tools)
- Simple Camera (Simple Mobile Tools)
- Simple Gallery (Simple Mobile Tools)
- Simple Phone (Simple Mobile Tools)
- Simple Keyboard (Apache)
I transferred them on the phone by USB and installed each manually.
After that I installed Aptoid to install Telegram.
Everything seems to work, google apps and services seems to not restart automatically and after I disabled all apps saying "App xxx cannot work without Google Play" I dont have notifications like this anymore.
By default pre-installed GMS - what you call Google apps for whatever reason - are installed as system-privileged apps hence they are part of Android system and not any ordinary user app. You need a rooted Android to uninstall system-privileged apps, same is with Google Play components.
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