I have Samsung galaxy a50 ( a505f). I disable or removed all possible google products. I only use google play services and google play store. I do not use any google product. No gmail,youtube calender or sync android. If i also disable google play services and google play store + remove my google account from phone and instal apps from Amazon, appstore,appgalery or as apk from my browser. How will this affect my phone? And i do not know if apps i downloaded not from playstore gonna work normal and stabil. Notifications will work normal??? Are there any apps do not work without google play services? I know google cloud messaging is important. It looks like i only need google cloud messasing for now. How to replace gcm?? Without root.
Installing apps from outside of Google Play Store is a surefire way to put yourself in danger. By installing apps from third-party stores, you're bypassing security measures put in place to vet apps for malware threats, making it much easier for a hacker to infiltrate your device with an infected app .
Here on xda many people using root or open source apps. Let's say i bought a new phone and i did not add google account. I removed all possible google apps. I disabled all other google services i can not remove. I downloaded apps as apk files. Will apps update or send push notifications normally? That is all i need to learn. The apps i use are outlook,twitter,signal,telegram,duckduckgo,yandex navi,onedrive and samsung cloud for sync and back up. I do not use any google apps or facebook,whatsapp,instagram, messenger. I just do not know what will be effected with removing google account from phone and disabling google play services. I just need few apps keep sending notifications.
jwoegerbauer said:
Installing apps from outside of Google Play Store is a surefire way to put yourself in danger. By installing apps from third-party stores, you're bypassing security measures put in place to vet apps for malware threats, making it much easier for a hacker to infiltrate your device with an infected app .
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At the very least scan any apks you intend to side load online with Virustotal. Just downloading them onto an Android without installing them isn't without risk. I side load only 2 or 3 apks from trusted sources.
You can download from Playstore then disable it, all apps will still function. I do this all the time.
Google Play Services* is needed for Playstore to run as well as some none Google apps.
You can then use ApkExport to copy your apps so you don't need to use Playstore next time you need to reload the OS. You save system apk updates as well so a full reload is possible with little or no internet connection. I store these on my SD card but a PC can be used.
Use Karma Firewall to block all the Google junk.
You can easily enable apks if needed.
It's freeware and uses very little battery.
*block Google Play Services with Karma Firewall when not using Playstore. A reboot will be needed after it's enabled for Playstore to work. GPS will waste battery by constantly connecting to the internet (4 times @ minute) if not firewall blocked.
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I tried running my phone without GApps but very quickly realised that I needed access to Google Play.
There are ways to download apks from the Play store without an account but then you never get any updates.
I am not philosophically opposed to the Google services but I am trying to reduce the number of background apps running.
Is there a way to freeze and only turn on Google Play services when opening the Play store and once a week to check for updates?
If your phone is rooted go for "greenify" i guess.
That helped my search.
I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552570
Thanks!
I just found yalpstore on fdroid.
This is from their github
What does it do?
Yalp Store lets you download apps from Google Play Store as apk files. It searches for updates of installed apps when it starts and lets you search for other apps. Thats it. Yalp saves downloaded apks to your default download folder so you can later open it in your favorite file manager app and tap each one to install the apps.
Why would I use it?
If you are content with Google Play Store app, you will not need this app.
The point of Yalp Store is to be small and independent from Google Services Framework. As time passed, Google Services Framework and Google Play Store apps grew in size, which made them almost too big for old phones (Nexus One has 150Mb memory available for apps, half of it would be taken by Google apps). Another reason to use Yalp Store is if you frequently flash experimental ROMs. This often breaks gapps and even prevents their reinstallation. In this situation Yalp will still work.
How does it work?
Yalp Store uses the same (protobuf) API the android Play Store app uses. You are going to need a google account to use it. Please, keep in mind that technically Yalp Store violates Android Market Terms of Service (§3.3). In theory, you might get your account disabled by using Yalp Store. Thats why you might want to register a separate gmail account and use it at least once to log in to the Play Store android app on any device.
In practice, though, software like Yalp, Google Play Crawler and Raccoon has been used for years and it seems to be safe.
Yalp Store is derived from the following projects:
https://github.com/Akdeniz/google-play-crawler
https://github.com/onyxbits/Raccoon
Has anyone any experience with this app?
I usually strip Google play from ask my devices except one that I use to get apps I need.
This might be a way to dump Google from that device also.
But I'm not a programmer so I can't audit the code for issues
(Our much more than use netstat to check what apps connect where)
So the more info out there the better
nutpants said:
I just found yalpstore on fdroid.
This is from their github
What does it do?
Yalp Store lets you download apps from Google Play Store as apk files. It searches for updates of installed apps when it starts and lets you search for other apps. Thats it. Yalp saves downloaded apks to your default download folder so you can later open it in your favorite file manager app and tap each one to install the apps.
Why would I use it?
If you are content with Google Play Store app, you will not need this app.
The point of Yalp Store is to be small and independent from Google Services Framework. As time passed, Google Services Framework and Google Play Store apps grew in size, which made them almost too big for old phones (Nexus One has 150Mb memory available for apps, half of it would be taken by Google apps). Another reason to use Yalp Store is if you frequently flash experimental ROMs. This often breaks gapps and even prevents their reinstallation. In this situation Yalp will still work.
How does it work?
Yalp Store uses the same (protobuf) API the android Play Store app uses. You are going to need a google account to use it. Please, keep in mind that technically Yalp Store violates Android Market Terms of Service (§3.3). In theory, you might get your account disabled by using Yalp Store. Thats why you might want to register a separate gmail account and use it at least once to log in to the Play Store android app on any device.
In practice, though, software like Yalp, Google Play Crawler and Raccoon has been used for years and it seems to be safe.
Yalp Store is derived from the following projects:
https://github.com/Akdeniz/google-play-crawler
https://github.com/onyxbits/Raccoon
Has anyone any experience with this app?
I usually strip Google play from ask my devices except one that I use to get apps I need.
This might be a way to dump Google from that device also.
But I'm not a programmer so I can't audit the code for issues
(Our much more than use netstat to check what apps connect where)
So the more info out there the better
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Im not a programmer neither, but im using Yalp Store since few weeks and everything seems fine. Im using it with a fake google account, not main one.
New update have credential access yalp store without need to have an account (experimental) but for me don't work..
Has not anyone tried it?
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Update: problem solved disabling signature check
I get an network.error when logging in with yalp account every time.
(LineageOS 13 and 14 without gapps)
Maybe anybody have an idea or solution?
Thanks
Any way to disable "you must have Google play services to run (name of app that doesn
Title cut off, rest should say "doesn't require Google play services to run"
I only use the play store basically, and have no issues with manually enabling before checking for app updates or to download new apps (on my newer device, my older device doesn't even require them for the play store at all)
But things like ccleaner, my emoji keyboard, a few other apps I can't think, of annoyingly claim to need these services to run... While I'm actively running them and using them just fine without.
On a device without the option "disable notifications for this app"either within the app itself, or within my older 4.0.4 device that runs just fine despite it being older... How can I get rid of these annoyances?
Play services are a huge battery and ram hog which I keep disabled unless needed. So any "just install play services" comments isn't exactly what I'm looking for...
I've looked around in disable service (the app) for these apps, unable to find anything looking relevant.
Any help would be appreciated
Play Services are often used for authentication reasons. Meaning the apps look if you have a genuine version. For freemium apps they check for any in app purchases you might have done.
Other common cases are for push notifications or location services etc. These are often only minor or optional features of apps. That's why they usually work nonetheless without having Play Services active.
The only easy option is to use an alternative app store like the Amazon App Store or F-Droid. All the apps over there are pretty much guaranteed to work without Play Services.
There are also some projects out there that aim for a system without Play Services. A quick search should yield quite some results.
If you are rooted and capable of using XPosed, then there is a module in the repo somewhere that does exactly what you are looking for - hiding the pop up.
Can't remember the name right now and don't know if it is still maintained, but searching the modules should provide it to you.
However, Google Play Service shouldn't be so much of a power drainer any more. Beginning with Android 6 / M the battery optimizations are quite enormous, even though the Play Services are excluded from the system wide optimization (because they take care of these optimizations). To further improve the footprint, you could disable the location services and wireless scanning services.
Hi,
please please please have patient with with as i’m still on iphone waiting to sell it and buy android (after @5 years on apple ecosystem)
Before that, last android phone, i had note 3, rooted ...
My question is about having a degoogled phone with lineageos without any google service instaled (not even aurora that, from what i understood, can be installed via fdroid and used to install play apps) and use no more google/facebook services (e.g whatsapp).
The question: can i download an apk file from google store via a laptop (e.g: revolut, or other banks apps) upload them to the phone and install them?
If this will work, will be privacy compromised?
Is this safer than installing via aurora?
Another question: lets say ill use k9 mail for my gmail account. Will this help google target my phone in any way knowing at least my phone ip ?
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With Aurora ( a fork of Yalp ) app you download/update apps directly from the Google Play Store without a Google account.
Aurora is open-source hence you must not fear your Android gets compromised by it.
Downloading an app from 3rd-party websites - means not from Google Play Store - and installing it always carries the risk that malicious software is installed.
Note: Apps may not work if you uninstall Google Play Services.
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With Aurora ( a fork of Yalp ) app you download/update apps directly from the Google Play Store without a Google account.
Aurora is open-source hence you must not fear your Android gets compromised by it.
Downloading an app from 3rd-party websites - means not from Google Play Store - and installing it always carries the risk that malicious software is installed.
Note: Apps may not work if you uninstall Google Play Services.
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Thank your for your answer.
If it will not work, then I'll skip the app
Thank you again
After debloating the N20U (unlocked, Android 11/One UI 3.0), I removed the Google Play Store and Google Play Services.
I kept Google Services Framework installed because after uninstalling it (Android 10 and up), I noticed losing the function to move apps to external storage.
Since I uninstalled Google Play Services, I no longer can transfer files via bluetooth, Samsung's Quick Share or Wi-Fi Direct.
Bluetooth can connect to other devices (example: bluetooth speaker) and works.
Does anyone know a solution to this other than reinstalling Google Play Services?
What is UnifiedNip? I noticed it listed in my installed F-droid apps when Google Play Services is installed on the phone.
Will it work on an unrooted phone/Android 11 and provide location services?
I tried one of the apps listed in F-droid, but it could not locate the devices (had device discovery on) to transfer files via bluetooth.
After resetting Network settings, I was able to transfer files via bluetooth from the N20U to the N9 by pairing the devices, turning on Nearby device scanning, and Location.
Cannot figure out how to use Samsung's Quick Share w/out Google Play Services installed. Haven't tested Samsung's Private Share yet to see if it will work (both devices require SIM...)
Use a package disabler, enable as needed and/or Karma Firewall to block it as needed.
I leave GPS enabled but firewall block it unless needed. Framework and Google Backup Transport are always disabled (on my 10+ running on Pie this causes no issues).
Running apks from the SD card is counterproductive.
Instead try using the SD card as a data drive and the internal memory for apks and downloads.
Thank you, @blackhawk!
I have used NetGuard (F-droid version) as a firewall, and wondered if it would be okay to use?
I have the Google Services Framework on my device, but uninstalled Google Play Services and the Play Store via adb.
If Google Play Services is installed on a device, can it be disabled using a package disabler without causing issues?
Have the pro version of Package Disabler, but have noticed that people have had problems using it on Android 11.
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Running apks from the SD card is counterproductive.
Instead try using the SD card as a data drive and the internal memory for apks and downloads.
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Okay, will do, and many thank you's for your advice!
jsusang said:
Thank you, @blackhawk!
I have used NetGuard (F-droid version) as a firewall, and wondered if it would be okay to use?
I have the Google Services Framework on my device, but uninstalled Google Play Services and the Play Store via adb.
If Google Play Services is installed on a device, can it be disabled using a package disabler without causing issues?
Have the pro version of Package Disabler, but have noticed that people have had problems using it on Android 11.
Okay, will do, and many thank you's for your advice!
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You're welcome. I would not uninstall Google Play Services. Gmail needs it and likely has other dependencies as well.
Firewall blocking it effectively cuts down its battery usage. Rather than package block it I firewall block it* and enable it as needed.
A package blocker is probably better than using ADB because you can enable/disable on the fly with a reboot being needed at the most.
*I tried it both ways. Package blocking it was overkill.
I am going to follow your much appreciated advice by reinstalling Google Play Services and using NetGuard to block it, @blackhawk .
Does Google collect location information on a device if you do not login w/ your Google account?
jsusang said:
I am going to follow your much appreciated advice by reinstalling Google Play Services and using NetGuard to block it, @blackhawk .
Does Google collect location information on a device if you do not login w/ your Google account?
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I don't trust it at all, one of the reasons I keep it Firewall blocked except when needed.
If you go into your Google account in settings you can tone it down. Go through all it's settings including the online ones, for gmail and gmaps. Disable auto sync for gmail; sync manually as needed.
Disable and firewall block Google Backup Transport and Framework unless you use Google backup. Same for all cloud junk unless you use it. Disable Google, carrier and Samsung feedback as it just wastes your resources and bleds info.
It's a mess...