installing lineageos or /e/ - General Questions and Answers

There is a list of compatible phones on their websites. On one hand that sounds logical, that some phones aren't compatible. But what I don't understand is that the physical chips all come from the same place. Right? I mean, you have different chipsets and so on, but if one phone had a, say for example, a Qualcomm SDM660 chipset. Wouldn't all the phones with that chipset be compatible?
Maybe some of the features wouldn't work, because there's no drivers for the specific subtleties in the way Sony or Xaomi implemented the chipset, but I'm just wondering why it wouldn't work otherwise?

anyone know?

For example: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9410&idPhone2=9058
OSAndroid 8.1 (Oreo), upgradable to Android 9.0 (Pie)Android 8.1 (Oreo), upgradable to Android 10, Android OneChipsetQualcomm SDM660 Snapdragon 660 (14 nm)Qualcomm SDM660 Snapdragon 660 (14 nm)CPUOcta-core (4x2.2 GHz Kryo 260 Gold & 4x1.8 GHz Kryo 260 Silver)Octa-core (4x2.2 GHz Kryo 260 Gold & 4x1.8 GHz Kryo 260 Silver)GPUAdreno 512Adreno 512
Both the Zenfone Max Pro M2 and 7 plus have the same chipset, cpu, and gpu. But only the Zenfone is on the compatible list. This does not make any sense.

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Samsung Galaxy S2 Diff Spec

Hey guys , i'm from malaysia and it seems that my galaxy S2 is not running on the spec that i have been seeing on the net.
according to gsmarena, it is suppose to be:-
Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset
but what i found on my s2 from Quadrant Standard is a
dual core 1.2 (min freq 300 max 1.2) Arm v7 Processor rev3 (v71)
the board seems to be the omap4sdp
and importantly it iis NOT the mali 400mp Gpu but it is the
PowerVR SGX540 open GL ES-CM 1.1 version.
Does anyone has this kind of spec? is it right ? or does different country might have different specs?
I would need some answer and explanation cause i couldnt find a reason why the spec of my s2 is diff as from the internet.

[Q] Can a SoC use a separate GPU than "stock" ?

I saw some leaks regarding a phone (Nubia Z7), wich had me gooling and coming up short. It indicated it would boast a Snapdragon 800 SoC, but a Mali T658 GPU ? Is this technically possible - for a unit to use a different GPU other than the one "stock" onboard the SoC? The Snapdragon 800 originally comes with Adreno 330 onboard. Would the whole SoC have to be rebuilt, or is there a simpler way of doing this?

[Q] Comparison of processors and GPU

Hi all,
I want to buy a new phone and I am confused regarding the performance and graphical processing unit.
I have 4 combinations on my list. Please help me to choose one on basis of performance.
1. Qualcomm MSM8960T Snapdragon, Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait, Adreno 320, with 1 GB of RAM [Sony Xperia SP]
2. Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400, Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait, Adreno 305, with 1.5 GB of RAM [Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini]
3. Qualcomm MSM8226 Snapdragon 400, Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7, Adreno 305, With 1 GB of RAM [Motorola Moto G]
4. Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon, Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait, Adreno 225, With 2 GB of RAM [Blackberry Z10]
I want to buy a phone that can run android apps, and that's why Z10 is on this list.
I kind of like the interface of BB Z10 and I would like to buy it, but I think the processor and GPU are kind of outdated.
There is one more option. I can wait for BB Z3 to come which features Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7, Adreno 305, With 1.5 GB of RAM.
Please help me choose one on the basis of performance and light gaming.
Thank you.
moto g
I have a gut feeling that moto g is best because it is newer ,faster ,cheaper

Kirin 650 or Snapdragon 616: Which is the fastest chipset?

Huawei is a leading telecommunication equipment manufacturer in the world. The company is quite innovative and makes telecommunication equipment like Smartphone, tablets, smart watch, modem etc. Now, Huawei has developed a new System on Chip (SoC) to improve the speed and performance of the Smartphone.
What is Android Smartphone SoC?
System on chip or SoC is an integrated circuit that combines or integrates all components into a single chip. SoC is an integral part of Smartphone which is in-house with CPU, GPU, memory technology, etc. As all components are integrated on the small chip, the performance of the Smartphone fully depends on the SoC.
Different manufacturers develop various SoC with different features (not completely similar). Now have a look at two new popular SoCs - Kirin 650 and Snapdragon 616.
Kirin 650 Specifications
Huawei Kirin 650 chipset is integrated with an octa-core CPU, 4x Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.7GHz and 4x Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 2GHz (octa-core A53 (4 × 1.7GHz + 4 × 2.0GHz) ) big.LITTLE architecture and ARM’s Mali T830 GPU, Dual SIM LTE Cat.7 (300Mbit/s) technology, 16nm FinFET Plus technology, and i5 processor.
Snapdragon 616 Specifications
Currently, Snapdragon 616 is one of the most popular SoC on the market which is mainly used in low to mid range phones. It comes with octa-core CPU, Octa-core Cortex A53 (4x1.7 GHz + 4x1.2 GHz), Qualcomm Adreno 405 GPU, 4G LTE Cat.4 and 28nm LP technology.
Kirin 650 Vs Snapdragon 616
Core count and clock speed
Both Kirin 650 and Snapdragon 616 comes with eight cores and the core is divided into two clusters. The first cluster of Kirin 650 is Cortex A53 that usually clocked at 2.0 GHz and the second cluster clocked at 1.7 GHz. When comes to Snapdragon 616, the first cluster of Cortex A53 clocked at 1.7 GHz and remaining set of four cores (second cluster) clocked at 1.2GHz. With this data, it is clear that Kirin 650 has more clock speed than Snapdragon 616. The clock speed implies how much data flows per second. That means Kirin 650 is faster and smarter than Snapdragon 616.
Process Technology
When compared with Snapdragon 616’s 28nm LP technology, Kirin 650’s 16nm FinFET Plus technology is two generations ahead due to its greatly improved performance and reduced power consumption. 16nm refers to the size of the transistors used in the chipset. Reduction in size of the chipset is good to improve the performance and to reduce leakage power. If the size of the transistor got reduced, it is possible to fit more transistors in the same place, thus, it improves the performance. That means from 28nm to 16nm (16nm the transistor fins are tightly paced, thinner and taller when compared to 28nm) the size of the transistor fin got reduced, hence improved the battery life and performance.
16nm FinFET Plus is the enhanced version of FinFET technology. 16nm FinFET plus process technology improves the performance by 65% and reduces power consumption by 70% when compared to 28nm (28nm is used in Snapdragon 616 processor) process.
28nm LP - Low power is a process that is first available on 28nm process technology, which is mainly used for low standby power application.
Faster network
Kirin 650 supports TD-LTE, FDD-LTE, TD-SDCMA, WCDMA, GSM and CDMA networks (also offer Dual standby dual SIM and VoLTE). It is also equipped with Cat.7 LTE, which is capable of downloading 300Mbits/s. Whereas Snapdragon 616 supports LTE FDD, LTE TDD, WCDMA, GSM/EDGE, CDMA, TD-SCDMA and it is also equipped with Cat. 4 technology.
Long Term Evolution (LTE) is a standard for high-speed wireless data communication. The LTE Categories (Cat.) is mainly used to describe the capability (downloading and uploading capability) of the network. There are 11 different categories (Cat.0 to Cat.10) where Kirin 650 uses Cat.7 and Snapdragon 616 uses Cat.4. Cat.7 is capable of downloading 300Mbits/s and uploading 150Mbits/s whereas, cat. 4 is capable of downloading only 150Mbits/s and uploading 50Mbits/s. Thus, the maximum data rate is achieved by Kirin 650 when compared with Snapdragon 616.
Which SoC is best for the Smartphone?
Major silicon chipset on the market uses 28nm or 20nm technology but the Huawei Kirin 650 uses 16nm FinFET plus technology which is two generation ahead when compared with other technology. Both SoC’s has octa core and dual Cortex A53. But still Kirin 650 has better data flow or clock speed when compared to snapdragon 616. The clock speed of Kirin 650 is 2.0 GHz for the first cluster and 1.7 GHz for the second, where Snapdragon 616 comes with a clock speed of 1.7 GHz and 1.2 GHz. When compared with Cat.4, Cat.7 has more downloading and uploading capability. The Huawei Kirin 650 is using this Cat.7 LTE and Snapdragon 616 uses Cat.4 LTE. Overall, Huawei Kirin 650 is the fastest chipset with high performance.
ninu elza said:
means Kirin 650 is faster and smarter than Snapdragon 616.
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How about a comparison b/w Snapdragon 650/652 and Kirin 650? How does they stack up against each other?
In theory Kirin should perform better as it has new 16nm soc, with an i5 co-processor which is a really low power consuming unit that assists the main processor by helping it perform certain complex calculations and operate in a low power always sensing mode.
Would love to see a comparison.
Anyway, hope Huawei opens up its sources for developers so we could have amazing customizations on kirin chips too. :good:

Snapdragon 835 confirmed to be Kryo based

A Geekbench benchmark of the latest Snapdragon 835 has been leaked, and the results were sort of disappointing. It also confirms, from the ARM implementer part, that this will be an octa core Kryo part, or maybe a quad custom+A53 solution like Samsung is doing.
In any case, I'm fairly disappointed. Kryo never was all that class-leading in performance, unlike Krait was back in the ARMv7 days.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-Snapdragon-835-benchmark-results-show-up-fail-to-impress_id89464

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