A Geekbench benchmark of the latest Snapdragon 835 has been leaked, and the results were sort of disappointing. It also confirms, from the ARM implementer part, that this will be an octa core Kryo part, or maybe a quad custom+A53 solution like Samsung is doing.
In any case, I'm fairly disappointed. Kryo never was all that class-leading in performance, unlike Krait was back in the ARMv7 days.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-Snapdragon-835-benchmark-results-show-up-fail-to-impress_id89464
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Hey guys , i'm from malaysia and it seems that my galaxy S2 is not running on the spec that i have been seeing on the net.
according to gsmarena, it is suppose to be:-
Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 processor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset
but what i found on my s2 from Quadrant Standard is a
dual core 1.2 (min freq 300 max 1.2) Arm v7 Processor rev3 (v71)
the board seems to be the omap4sdp
and importantly it iis NOT the mali 400mp Gpu but it is the
PowerVR SGX540 open GL ES-CM 1.1 version.
Does anyone has this kind of spec? is it right ? or does different country might have different specs?
I would need some answer and explanation cause i couldnt find a reason why the spec of my s2 is diff as from the internet.
Some exciting news, the first real-world benchmark has appeared for an ARM A15 chip, in this case the Samsung Exynos 5250, which has been launched in the latest Chromebook.
Chip Info - dual-core A15 @ 1.7 GHz & Mali T604 GPU.
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...t/application/detail?productId=7668&iaId=2341
The benchmark is Sunspider, which is not multi-threaded, i.e. does utilise multiple cores, so you can evaluate the actual performance (javascript) of a single-core., now we can see the performance improvement ARM has baked into their latest hardware
Courtesy of Gigacom, Sunspider on the ARM version of Google Chrome that comes installed on the Chromebook = 660ms (Lower is better). Compared to the current King of the Hill ARM A9 device the Galaxy Note 2 (Exynos 4412), which is clocked at 1.6 GHz, it achieves 972 ms accorded to GSM Arena, other sites have similar figures.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii-review-824p5.php
LOWER IS BETTER
Exynos 5250 - A15 @ 1.7 Ghz = 660 ms
Exynos 4412 - A9 @ 1.6 Ghz = 972 ms
The 5250 is clocked 6% higher than the 4412, so if we adjust the results for CPU frequency parity
Exynos 5250 = 660 ms
Exynos 4412 @ 1.7 Ghz = 914 ms
This is not an exhaustive performance test!, but we can see that in this one popular benchmark that ARM A15 is ~30% faster than the A9 architecture when adjusted for clock speed.
To sweeten the deal further A15 SoC will run at a higher clock than A9s, Tegra 4 (T40) is stated to run @ 1.8 GHz with a bump to 2 GHz after a couple of quarters, just like Tegra 3. Samsung has the even mightier 5450, a quad-core variant of the chip in this test, rumored to run @ 2 GHz, combined with much more powerful GPU, and Android's software optimisations 2013 is going to be one hell of year for tech fans:victory:
Source:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-hands-on-with-googles-new-249-chromebook/
Nice find. I am also looking for Mali-T604 results. GLbenchmark results will be interesting. 72GFLOPs does sound very good.
EDIT: I think he says 620ms in video. Also, I am sure it will get better as the Chrome OS code is optimized for ARM. This is just first release. Exynos 4 has been optimized to limit. They can't push it any further now, at least not by a big margin.
hot_spare said:
Nice find. I am also looking for Mali-T604 results. GLbenchmark results will be interesting. 72GFLOPs does sound very good.
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You may have to wait a while, ChromeOS can't run Android apps like GLbenchmark, only webapps. The reason Sunspider is a good test in this case, is that they both use the ARM version of Chrome, which uses the same underlying technology (Webkit & V8 Javascript engine)
Edit, there some unverified benchmarks from ES 2.0 Taiji, but there are v-sync limited to 60 fps, so we don't know how powerful the T-604, from that bench.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...i-T604-graphics-pops-up-in-benchmarks_id34681
True. I think have to wait for SGS4 for those benchmarks. More interested in browsermark, peacekeeper, google octane numbers. google itself mentioned that sunspider is outdated.
http://sunspider-mod.googlecode.com/svn/data/hosted/sunspider.html
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EDIT: I think he says 620ms in video. Also, I am sure it will get better as the Chrome OS code is optimized for ARM. This is just first release. Exynos 4 has been optimized to limit. They can't push it any further now, at least not by a big margin.
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In the video he mentions 620 ms, but in the comments he states 660 ms for Sunspider when asked the question, I chose the 660 ms to be conservative.
Antutu benchmark!
I kept looking, and found something interesting now.
"Supposedly" first Antutu benchmark for Exynos 5250. Now the values show it's running at 1.5GHz. For a dual-core SoC, 14185 score sounds very good.
The most interesting part is the 3D graphics numbers. This is 3x compared to 4412 SoC.
Source: http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2718
With more optimization, this can be really powerful.
Looks like this chip will also end up in the Nexus 10
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Looks like this chip will also end up in the Nexus 10
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That's going to be a monster tablet.
Peacekeeper browser benchmark for Exynos 5250 gets more than 1200:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JoeWilcox/posts/8LrBK9CKJG4
Better than any other mobile SoC so far.
This chip rapes every other chip out there, even the s4 pro and apple a6. look here- http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/
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This chip rapes every other chip out there, even the s4 pro and apple a6. look here- http://www.androidauthority.com/exynos-5-dual-benchmarks-125134/
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Dude please don't use the word rape, an ugly word. But we must wait for the a GL Benchmark results of the Mali T-604 against the Apple A6 & A6X, I hope it beats them, but it won't be easy Apple used a lot of die space to create them.
Hoping for a Exynos 5450 (5 Quad) by March or April of 2013
Is it the same chip they use in the new Chromebook?
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Is it the same chip they use in the new Chromebook?
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Exactly the same, dual-core Exynos 5250 - Mali T-604.
Mali 450 octa (the one rumored to be used on the note 3 ) VS PowerVR SGX 544MP3 (this is the one used on the Samsung galaxy s4 octa) ?
Which do you think is better?
Thanks
jack_light said:
Mali 450 octa (the one rumored to be used on the note 3 ) VS PowerVR SGX 544MP3 (this is the one used on the Samsung galaxy s4 octa) ?
Which do you think is better?
Thanks
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Tough one, from what i gather it seems that it is more sensible that samsung should use a tablet gpu in the note 3(eg.Mali-T604), the Mali-450 in an 8-core GPU while the PVR SGX 554Mp3 is a 3-core, the Mali-450 MP8 is a 2*Mali-400 MP4(not a very nice thing to do genii -_-) http://www.arm.com/files/event/3_ARM_Mali-450_Introduction.pdf so thats 2 x mali-400 benchmarks. according to http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/01...e-gcxxx-vs-powervr-sgx-vs-nvidia-geforce-ulp/ , texture pixel rate for the Mali-400 is 1.6G Pix/s for 1 core @ 400 MHz and the SGX is 1 G Pix/s per core @ 200 MHz, that means its 1.6 * 8 for the mali-450 MP8 and for the SGX is 2 * 3 **not sure here, could be 2*3 or 4*3** . Which means that the mali 450 mp8 is in total capable of 12.8G pix/s and the SGX 544 mp3 is capable of 6G pix/s AT 400 MHZ ONLY!! keep in mind that the sgs2 came out at 267 Mhz is something like that happened it would change the game completely. so at the same speed the mali-450 wins but i think it will consume alot more power than the sgx 544 mp3 since its 8 cores vs 3 cores, and i dont think u need that power in a 1080p device, so i feel it will be clocked much lower than 400 at maybe 200 or 250, giving it the same performance as the SGX at 533.
About mali 450 octa core?
Jgjd691995 said:
Tough one, from what i gather it seems that it is more sensible that samsung should use a tablet gpu in the note 3(eg.Mali-T604), the Mali-450 in an 8-core GPU while the PVR SGX 554Mp3 is a 3-core, the Mali-450 MP8 is a 2*Mali-400 MP4(not a very nice thing to do genii -_-) http://www.arm.com/files/event/3_ARM_Mali-450_Introduction.pdf so thats 2 x mali-400 benchmarks. according to http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/01...e-gcxxx-vs-powervr-sgx-vs-nvidia-geforce-ulp/ , texture pixel rate for the Mali-400 is 1.6G Pix/s for 1 core @ 400 MHz and the SGX is 1 G Pix/s per core @ 200 MHz, that means its 1.6 * 8 for the mali-450 MP8 and for the SGX is 2 * 3 **not sure here, could be 2*3 or 4*3** . Which means that the mali 450 mp8 is in total capable of 12.8G pix/s and the SGX 544 mp3 is capable of 6G pix/s AT 400 MHZ ONLY!! keep in mind that the sgs2 came out at 267 Mhz is something like that happened it would change the game completely. so at the same speed the mali-450 wins but i think it will consume alot more power than the sgx 544 mp3 since its 8 cores vs 3 cores, and i dont think u need that power in a 1080p device, so i feel it will be clocked much lower than 400 at maybe 200 or 250, giving it the same performance as the SGX at 533.
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Hey the mali 450 is not an octa 8 core GPU , it has 4 cores not 8!!!
it has 4 fragment processors and MAY BE SCALABLE TO 8. so there are not 8 because I checked wth arm in their forums :laugh::laugh::good:
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Hey the mali 450 is not an octa 8 core GPU , it has 4 cores not 8!!!
it has 4 fragment processors and MAY BE SCALABLE TO 8. so there are not 8 because I checked wth arm in their forums :laugh::laugh::good:
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actually there many different variants of mali 450 2,3,4,8 cores.
Also check this "http://www.notebookcheck.net/ARM-Mali-450-MP4.116281.0.html"
Arm mali 450 mp
Looking on the ARM site. It lists MALI-300, MALI-400 MP, MALI-450 MP. Nowhere does it list MP2 or MP6 or anything like this. The ARM site also has a diagram image of the MALI-450 MP. It has 8, I repeat 8! Fragment Processors.
Next!
Go to Wikipedia! Do a search for MALI-450 MP. You will get a page titled MALI (GPU). On that page, as it states in the page title, is a list of all of the MALI GPU's. The MALI-450 MP is listed as having 4-8 cores. The MP2, MP4 and MP6 variants have come onto the GPU as variants for the SoC they are running with. Listed is AMLogic with the 8726-M8 series (M801, M802, S801, S802) for the MP6 and 8726-M8B series (M805, S805) for the MP2. MediaTek with the MTK6592 Octa SoC has the Mali-450 MP4 @ 700 MHz.
So!
The literature and ARM specs have the MALI-450 MP listed with Multi Core Scaling of 1-8 cores. Wiki has listed as 4-8 cores. Therefore, how can anyone say that it is a 4 core? It is an 8 CORE GPU.
I am no expert and I DEFINITELY don't purport to know more than any of you guys. But I do my research! However, if you have evidence to prove that I am wrong, by all means, PLEASE!?! Present it. If I am wrong I need to know! Knowledge is gathered by going down the many paths presented, many of which appear correct to start with but can be false. This is the joy of learning. How else do we answer the myriad questions we have running through our minds.
how to overclock mali octa?
I was going to buy a tablet for uni, and as i have some experience with computers i decided to compare the tablets and buy which was best for me, however i realized I'm a complete greenhorn in terms of phone/tablet hardware.
I found that these two processor was the ones i had to pick from:
Samsung Exynos 5250 - A15 Dual core @ 2 Ghz
Has an excellent GPU T-604
Rockwell Rk3188 - A9 Quad core @ 1.8 GHz
Has an decent GPU Mali 400
I know that the Exynos has a MUCH better GPU and has the newer A15 architecture, clocked at higher speed but is a dual core.
But the Rockwell is a quad core but has a older A9 architure and has the worse GPU.
I tried to search for a comparison but came nil because I was comparing between different release date/architecture.
Could you guys people explain to this newbie the advantages and disadvantages of each processor, and which one i should pick?
Which Processor is better? why is it better? Better by how much?
Which processor would be better at Nds emulation? I know android nds emulator support multicore and GPU support
Rk3188 (quad core) vs exynos (better GPU, architechture)
Which one has the lower battery consumption?
Thank you for your time.
at first is it Rockchip RK3188 , not Rockwell .. 2nd, A15 is faster than A9 even A9 is in A9 quad core state, for better compatibility support for apps and games .. take exynos chip but the price is hinger than rockchip RK3188 tablet... battery comsumption are vary depnds actual MAH on the tablet + how the user usage on it's tablet + version ROM that perform
Tablet is not only about processor, build quality, screen, speakers - its a package.
As you did not mention exact models under comparison, it depends on what you look for and budget.
For price/quality top score, you can't go wrong with one of Cube u9GTV (quad) tablets :
Retina, aluminum body, IPS, HDMI, stereo speakers and 9+ hours of battery.
I have one myself, and I used the dual core (old model) for a year, so I know they last well and are robust.
One of issues to consider is that having ADB over USB to Cube tablets is sometimes a mess, so I'm using ADB over IP to debug things, which might be not the best solution for a developer.
Best luck with your choice!
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I was going to buy a tablet for uni, and as i have some experience with computers i decided to compare the tablets and buy which was best for me, however i realized I'm a complete greenhorn in terms of phone/tablet hardware.
I found that these two processor was the ones i had to pick from:
Samsung Exynos 5250 - A15 Dual core @ 2 Ghz
Has an excellent GPU T-604
Rockwell Rk3188 - A9 Quad core @ 1.8 GHz
Has an decent GPU Mali 400
I know that the Exynos has a MUCH better GPU and has the newer A15 architecture, clocked at higher speed but is a dual core.
But the Rockwell is a quad core but has a older A9 architure and has the worse GPU.
I tried to search for a comparison but came nil because I was comparing between different release date/architecture.
Could you guys people explain to this newbie the advantages and disadvantages of each processor, and which one i should pick?
Which Processor is better? why is it better? Better by how much?
Which processor would be better at Nds emulation? I know android nds emulator support multicore and GPU support
Rk3188 (quad core) vs exynos (better GPU, architechture)
Which one has the lower battery consumption?
Thank you for your time.
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Hello, can somebody tell me which one of theese CPUs is the best for gaming and performance?
Kirin 950
4 X ARM Cortex-A72 @ 2.3 GHz
4 X ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1.8GHz
Mali – T880MP4
(Four Core)
TSMC 16nm FinFET
Exynos 8890
4 X Custom Cores
4 X ARM Cortex A-53
Mali – T880MP12
(Twelve Core)
Samsung 14nm FinFET
Snapdragon 820
4 X Kryo Cores @ 2.2GHz
Adreno 530
Samsung 14nm FinFET
Probably the Snapdragon but I wouldn't really know. At least GPU wise it should be.