Mali 450 octa (the one rumored to be used on the note 3 ) VS PowerVR SGX 544MP3 (this is the one used on the Samsung galaxy s4 octa) ?
Which do you think is better?
Thanks
jack_light said:
Mali 450 octa (the one rumored to be used on the note 3 ) VS PowerVR SGX 544MP3 (this is the one used on the Samsung galaxy s4 octa) ?
Which do you think is better?
Thanks
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Tough one, from what i gather it seems that it is more sensible that samsung should use a tablet gpu in the note 3(eg.Mali-T604), the Mali-450 in an 8-core GPU while the PVR SGX 554Mp3 is a 3-core, the Mali-450 MP8 is a 2*Mali-400 MP4(not a very nice thing to do genii -_-) http://www.arm.com/files/event/3_ARM_Mali-450_Introduction.pdf so thats 2 x mali-400 benchmarks. according to http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/01...e-gcxxx-vs-powervr-sgx-vs-nvidia-geforce-ulp/ , texture pixel rate for the Mali-400 is 1.6G Pix/s for 1 core @ 400 MHz and the SGX is 1 G Pix/s per core @ 200 MHz, that means its 1.6 * 8 for the mali-450 MP8 and for the SGX is 2 * 3 **not sure here, could be 2*3 or 4*3** . Which means that the mali 450 mp8 is in total capable of 12.8G pix/s and the SGX 544 mp3 is capable of 6G pix/s AT 400 MHZ ONLY!! keep in mind that the sgs2 came out at 267 Mhz is something like that happened it would change the game completely. so at the same speed the mali-450 wins but i think it will consume alot more power than the sgx 544 mp3 since its 8 cores vs 3 cores, and i dont think u need that power in a 1080p device, so i feel it will be clocked much lower than 400 at maybe 200 or 250, giving it the same performance as the SGX at 533.
About mali 450 octa core?
Jgjd691995 said:
Tough one, from what i gather it seems that it is more sensible that samsung should use a tablet gpu in the note 3(eg.Mali-T604), the Mali-450 in an 8-core GPU while the PVR SGX 554Mp3 is a 3-core, the Mali-450 MP8 is a 2*Mali-400 MP4(not a very nice thing to do genii -_-) http://www.arm.com/files/event/3_ARM_Mali-450_Introduction.pdf so thats 2 x mali-400 benchmarks. according to http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/01...e-gcxxx-vs-powervr-sgx-vs-nvidia-geforce-ulp/ , texture pixel rate for the Mali-400 is 1.6G Pix/s for 1 core @ 400 MHz and the SGX is 1 G Pix/s per core @ 200 MHz, that means its 1.6 * 8 for the mali-450 MP8 and for the SGX is 2 * 3 **not sure here, could be 2*3 or 4*3** . Which means that the mali 450 mp8 is in total capable of 12.8G pix/s and the SGX 544 mp3 is capable of 6G pix/s AT 400 MHZ ONLY!! keep in mind that the sgs2 came out at 267 Mhz is something like that happened it would change the game completely. so at the same speed the mali-450 wins but i think it will consume alot more power than the sgx 544 mp3 since its 8 cores vs 3 cores, and i dont think u need that power in a 1080p device, so i feel it will be clocked much lower than 400 at maybe 200 or 250, giving it the same performance as the SGX at 533.
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Hey the mali 450 is not an octa 8 core GPU , it has 4 cores not 8!!!
it has 4 fragment processors and MAY BE SCALABLE TO 8. so there are not 8 because I checked wth arm in their forums :laugh::laugh::good:
raghavsood999 said:
Hey the mali 450 is not an octa 8 core GPU , it has 4 cores not 8!!!
it has 4 fragment processors and MAY BE SCALABLE TO 8. so there are not 8 because I checked wth arm in their forums :laugh::laugh::good:
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actually there many different variants of mali 450 2,3,4,8 cores.
Also check this "http://www.notebookcheck.net/ARM-Mali-450-MP4.116281.0.html"
Arm mali 450 mp
Looking on the ARM site. It lists MALI-300, MALI-400 MP, MALI-450 MP. Nowhere does it list MP2 or MP6 or anything like this. The ARM site also has a diagram image of the MALI-450 MP. It has 8, I repeat 8! Fragment Processors.
Next!
Go to Wikipedia! Do a search for MALI-450 MP. You will get a page titled MALI (GPU). On that page, as it states in the page title, is a list of all of the MALI GPU's. The MALI-450 MP is listed as having 4-8 cores. The MP2, MP4 and MP6 variants have come onto the GPU as variants for the SoC they are running with. Listed is AMLogic with the 8726-M8 series (M801, M802, S801, S802) for the MP6 and 8726-M8B series (M805, S805) for the MP2. MediaTek with the MTK6592 Octa SoC has the Mali-450 MP4 @ 700 MHz.
So!
The literature and ARM specs have the MALI-450 MP listed with Multi Core Scaling of 1-8 cores. Wiki has listed as 4-8 cores. Therefore, how can anyone say that it is a 4 core? It is an 8 CORE GPU.
I am no expert and I DEFINITELY don't purport to know more than any of you guys. But I do my research! However, if you have evidence to prove that I am wrong, by all means, PLEASE!?! Present it. If I am wrong I need to know! Knowledge is gathered by going down the many paths presented, many of which appear correct to start with but can be false. This is the joy of learning. How else do we answer the myriad questions we have running through our minds.
how to overclock mali octa?
Can i ask a link or a list of all chipset, cpu, and gpu from oldest to latest because i don't know which is better like in
Chipset- NovaThor U8500, Qualcomm MSM8230 Snapdragon,Exynos 5 Octa 5410 etc...
Cpu-Cortex-A15, Cortex-A9, Cortex-A7 etc...
Gpu-Mali-400, Adreno 305, PowerVR SGX 544MP3, Adreno 225 etc...
so that whenever i canvas for a new phone and check the chipset, cpu, and gpu i know which is better.
Hi all,
I want to buy a new phone and I am confused regarding the performance and graphical processing unit.
I have 4 combinations on my list. Please help me to choose one on basis of performance.
1. Qualcomm MSM8960T Snapdragon, Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait, Adreno 320, with 1 GB of RAM [Sony Xperia SP]
2. Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400, Dual-core 1.7 GHz Krait, Adreno 305, with 1.5 GB of RAM [Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini]
3. Qualcomm MSM8226 Snapdragon 400, Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7, Adreno 305, With 1 GB of RAM [Motorola Moto G]
4. Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon, Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait, Adreno 225, With 2 GB of RAM [Blackberry Z10]
I want to buy a phone that can run android apps, and that's why Z10 is on this list.
I kind of like the interface of BB Z10 and I would like to buy it, but I think the processor and GPU are kind of outdated.
There is one more option. I can wait for BB Z3 to come which features Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7, Adreno 305, With 1.5 GB of RAM.
Please help me choose one on the basis of performance and light gaming.
Thank you.
moto g
I have a gut feeling that moto g is best because it is newer ,faster ,cheaper
Rank the following according to gaming performance only:
*Snapdragon 600 + Adreno 320 400 Mhz (Xiaomi Mi2S)
*MTK6592 + Mali 450-MP4 700 Mhz (Jiayu J5S)
*Exynos 5 Octa 5410 + PowerVR SGX544MP3 533 Mhz (Meizhu MX3)
I'm pretty much sure that the Adreno 320 is the best among these, but what I'd like to know is how much are the rest lagging behind?
I'm only interested in high-end gaming.
pgchelsea said:
Rank the following according to gaming performance only:
*Snapdragon 600 + Adreno 320 400 Mhz (Xiaomi Mi2S)
*MTK6592 + Mali 450-MP4 700 Mhz (Jiayu J5S)
*Exynos 5 Octa 5410 + PowerVR SGX544MP3 533 Mhz (Meizhu MX3)
I'm pretty much sure that the Adreno 320 is the best among these, but what I'd like to know is how much are the rest lagging behind?
I'm only interested in high-end gaming.
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Samsungs Exynos is pretty good, little behind snapdragon, so is the powerVR, though not as great as adreno. MTK and Mali are terrible. they try to lock people in with the high numbers and "Octa" cores. its not bad cpus/gpus they just lag far behind exynos and snapdragon.
A Geekbench benchmark of the latest Snapdragon 835 has been leaked, and the results were sort of disappointing. It also confirms, from the ARM implementer part, that this will be an octa core Kryo part, or maybe a quad custom+A53 solution like Samsung is doing.
In any case, I'm fairly disappointed. Kryo never was all that class-leading in performance, unlike Krait was back in the ARMv7 days.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-Snapdragon-835-benchmark-results-show-up-fail-to-impress_id89464