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Android 6.0 Marshmallow - will we get it?

This is a somewhat silly question, I admit. It's reasonable to assume that Huawei will provide Android 6.0 to their older phones, considering they just made the new Nexus 6P.
Or will they? What do you think? Is the Nexus 6P comparable in terms of hardware to our Mate 7? How are chances that we'll actually get Marshmallow within a reasonable time frame?
Also, what do you think - will Marshmallow make it possible that we could get a CyanogenMod installation for the Mate 7 with support for the fingerprint sensor? Or another, similar, close-to-stock Android experience?
I, for one, would rather wait for Marshmallow and stick with KitKat for the time being, hoping that the new system will improve significantly on Lollipop - and also hoping that the Nexus 6P means adoption of Marshmallow to the Mate 7 and other Huawei phones will be much quicker (and easier).
What are your thoughts?

we are waiging a year for lollipop. i guess they'll release finally this goddamn lollipop just to get rid of haters on their fanpages and forget about mate 7.
if you are expecting 6.0 in reasonable time you are just dreamer.

vonotny said:
This is a somewhat silly question, I admit. It's reasonable to assume that Huawei will provide Android 6.0 to their older phones, considering they just made the new Nexus 6P.
Or will they? What do you think? Is the Nexus 6P comparable in terms of hardware to our Mate 7? How are chances that we'll actually get Marshmallow within a reasonable time frame?
Also, what do you think - will Marshmallow make it possible that we could get a CyanogenMod installation for the Mate 7 with support for the fingerprint sensor? Or another, similar, close-to-stock Android experience?
I, for one, would rather wait for Marshmallow and stick with KitKat for the time being, hoping that the new system will improve significantly on Lollipop - and also hoping that the Nexus 6P means adoption of Marshmallow to the Mate 7 and other Huawei phones will be much quicker (and easier).
What are your thoughts?
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The Nexus 6P will be updated by Google and not by Huawei to be clear and i`am afraid we`ll have to wait for the M update at least 6-9 months if they continue developing Lollipop. The Nexus has a different CPU and GPU then the Huawei`s/Honors so that won`t help either. I`ll be switching to the Moto X Style soon i`ll think because the Nexus`s are ridiculously expensive this year imo, at least in the EU :silly:

vonotny said:
It's reasonable to assume
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No, it isn't.
If Mate7 gets M, great! Just don't hold your breath... :fingers-crossed:

Update will be available around Januari-Februari 2016.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/list-andro...-get-android-6-0-marshmallow-os-update-643594
Perhaps it is better to miss Official Android 5.1 ......
https://www.androidpit.com/7-reasons-why-kitkat-is-better-than-lollipop

ronnie72 said:
Update will be available around Januari-Februari 2016.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/list-andro...-get-android-6-0-marshmallow-os-update-643594
Perhaps it is better to miss Official Android 5.1 ......
https://www.androidpit.com/7-reasons-why-kitkat-is-better-than-lollipop
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Hope this is legit but i have serious doubts

The AM7 hasn't even received an official Lollipop update, the mere thought of getting Marshmallow is a dream. Huawei has been promising it every month, and has failed every month. I absolutely love my AM7 physically, but the software is outdated. The fact that Google will be in charge of the 6P's software is the only reason I bought one. Huawei has physically built some amazing phones, but hardware needs to be complemented with software, and the fact that their 2014 flagship device has not received the 2014 update to 5.0 a year after its release leaves me saddened for Huawei customers that can't change phones, or are committed to their AM7's.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Many owners are content with 4.4.2 or the various CM based ROM's out there, but I believe it's reasonable to expect a vital software upgrade to a flagship device within 5-6 months of its release. We're nearing a year and still are going nuts over beta releases that are still buggy (I just reverted my AM7 back to 4.4.2 b125), and that to me is a deal breaker. But again - some people are content.
I'll say this though - CM12.2 or whatever it'll be called for Android M would go amazing with the AM7. With fingerprint reading natively built into 6.0, maybe we could see CM ROM's with a fingerprint scanner. My main gripe with the CM ROM's for the AM7 was lack of fingerprint reading (understandably, of course, given the nature of the way its built into Huawei's kernel). Oh well!

even honor 6 received lollipop today

Nexus P6 belongs to google .. the manufacturer does NOT do anything with software AT ALL .. nexus phones has pure android directly from google so that is why it has 6.0
6.0 Marshmallow on mate 7 ? next year christmas maybe ?
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ronnie72 said:
Update will be available around Januari-Februari 2016.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/list-andro...-get-android-6-0-marshmallow-os-update-643594
Perhaps it is better to miss Official Android 5.1 ......
https://www.androidpit.com/7-reasons-why-kitkat-is-better-than-lollipop
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no date stated for mate 7

One year ago they promised Lollipop for January. So forget it.

ГАСООП said:
we are waiging a year for lollipop. i guess they'll release finally this goddamn lollipop just to get rid of haters on their fanpages and forget about mate 7.
if you are expecting 6.0 in reasonable time you are just dreamer.
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gee2012 said:
The Nexus 6P will be updated by Google and not by Huawei to be clear and i`am afraid we`ll have to wait for the M update at least 6-9 months if they continue developing Lollipop. The Nexus has a different CPU and GPU then the Huawei`s/Honors so that won`t help either. I`ll be switching to the Moto X Style soon i`ll think because the Nexus`s are ridiculously expensive this year imo, at least in the EU :silly:
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The different hardware is a convincing point - considering this is (from what I've read) also what's keeping back Lollipop for so long.
I've been eyeing the Moto X Style myself, as well as the Nexus 6P (which I find far too expensive) and the OnePlus 2. I would miss the fingerprint sensor on the Moto, though ...

AhsanU said:
The AM7 hasn't even received an official Lollipop update, the mere thought of getting Marshmallow is a dream. Huawei has been promising it every month, and has failed every month. I absolutely love my AM7 physically, but the software is outdated. The fact that Google will be in charge of the 6P's software is the only reason I bought one. Huawei has physically built some amazing phones, but hardware needs to be complemented with software, and the fact that their 2014 flagship device has not received the 2014 update to 5.0 a year after its release leaves me saddened for Huawei customers that can't change phones, or are committed to their AM7's.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Many owners are content with 4.4.2 or the various CM based ROM's out there, but I believe it's reasonable to expect a vital software upgrade to a flagship device within 5-6 months of its release. We're nearing a year and still are going nuts over beta releases that are still buggy (I just reverted my AM7 back to 4.4.2 b125), and that to me is a deal breaker. But again - some people are content.
I'll say this though - CM12.2 or whatever it'll be called for Android M would go amazing with the AM7. With fingerprint reading natively built into 6.0, maybe we could see CM ROM's with a fingerprint scanner. My main gripe with the CM ROM's for the AM7 was lack of fingerprint reading (understandably, of course, given the nature of the way its built into Huawei's kernel). Oh well!
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That's what I'm hoping - that a CM-based Marshmallow ROM with fingerprint support will come to our phones. In fact, I can't stand EMUI and would prefer vanilla or close to vanilla Android - if only it were currently possible. Since the OnePlus 2 is impossible to get (at least at its official retail price) and the Nexus 6P is so damn expensive (almost iPhone money ...), I'm going to stick with my Mate for the time being ...

No.
Don't expect Marshmallow for mate 7.
Just don't.

Did you this leak?? It's a picture where there are the first devices that will get marshmallow(6.0), probably at the end of this year(i dont believe that part haha)
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armude said:
Did you this leak?? It's a picture where there are the first devices that will get marshmallow(6.0), probably at the end of this year(i dont believe that part haha)
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Yeah, but is that official information or is it wishful thinking? My bet is on the latter.

vonotny said:
Yeah, but is that official information or is it wishful thinking? My bet is on the latter.
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I cant tell, i only know that is a leak, but there are several news telling that huawei will update mate 7, mate S, honor 6, p8, and more, to android M, lets give them a try

I would say that the lollipop upgrade has been dumped away - and we will go directly to Android M6. Last known AL5 beta was B317 for the LT-09 - the betas came out every few weeks, now it's silent since the B317 wich was close to done - was in matter of days for the official release.
Also some sites report that Huawei said about AM6 update is coming much much sooner...and some of them even say Q4 2015
http://pantomath.xyz/emui-4-0-based-on-android-marshmallow-to-be-released-in-q4-2015-by-huawei/
Edit: NEVERMIND i just found out it was Huawei Christmas XD

Lg is bringing to g4 marshmallow next week already...that's pretty fast

I saw huawei 3 popular device will get Andriod M at first...and 6p already release...I found one of huawei developer said thes 3 brands, P8,Mate 7 and Honor 6plus...they will possibly release in end of 2015..its mean u can guess for half of 2016 hehe bcoz huawei always late...
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No Oreo for the P9

Hey Folks!
According to HuaweiBlog.de the P9 will not be updated to Oreo. That's pretty ****ty. It's a 569€ (Retail price 18.04.2016) )phone and only 18 month "old". What the heck is Huawei thinkng? They will lose customers.
What do you think?

They suck! Would never buy a phone from them for this reason. But to be honest, saw the Oreo on Mate 9, nothing to be mad about, minor changes but still it's not right to provide only one OS update on a phone that costs more than $600 (500 euros). Owners of P9 should blast them on all their Social media accounts to they get a lot negative feedback and notice the people's feelings

I don't know----it's fairly standard for premium android phones to get only 2 major OS during their short life. Nowadays you are "supposed" to get a new device every 2 years. The P9 was released with M and now has N (well almost all!) so that is probably all you are going to get. Most of the big brands do the same with their flagship devices. I'm mad because Nougat will not work on my P9, so I cannot even get any update.

Translated:
"Once again clarification. This article does not reflect the opinion of Huawei Germany. Huawei has not officially announced yet, which smartphones are supplied with Oreo."

"huruduru I will not buy from them again... ever!"
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Jesus Christ its like watching kids crying about other kids that dont want to play with them...
You behave like that update is a matter of life and death to you. Like this update would make your phone brand new, add 10000 and 1 new features and give you 2 weeks of battery life.
Get a fricking life... This is just update, your phone is still the same, and if you would use your eyes and brain you would see that every update from every OEM fix something and mess something and rest is placebo effects. Especially battery life, that because of wipe/new apps look good in the first glance but later you get average time and you realize that difference is bellow 5%...
Not to mention that source is some german blog that have nothing to do with Huawei, I can find for you few post about P9 not getting EMUI 5.0 and oh wait... we have it...
And seriously stop that nonsense about not buying from some company ever again. Its like buying LG dishwasher that turn to work good but not so fast as it in reviews, and after that you state that you NEVER EVER gonna buy anything from them, TV, blu-ray... nothing! I can imagine that you have the same face as little kid:
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''but eeee... its was expensive flaghip!"
No it was not, I bought it year ago, new from Media Markt for 500Euro(right now average price in Spain, German and Poland is 380Euro), hell P10 right now cost 499Euro...
Not to menton that phone is almost two year old, lets see how many devices from that time period, similar price tag and specification have oreo....
LG G5 - Nope still not here
OnePlus 3 - Still in bugged beta stage
HTC 10 - planed but still no update...
Xperia XZ - announced but still in waiting list... and because its Sony, and before Huawei I used xperias I can be sure that their updates will need 1000 fixes because I never encounter sony update that was good...
Gionee S8 - nope.
Asus Zenfone 3 - nope.
Even damn Xiaomi Mi Mix still dont have update -_-
So now relax, use your phone as always, because guess what? it will work even without update. Dont treat updates like some sort of miracle thing that make your phone x100 better in every way, and most important, stop crying about Huawei because compared to other companies its not that bad, especially that you not getting updates that need 100 additional updates that fix major problems. Compared to any other OEM I would rather get one/two updates but working without messing my device. I buy device for how it work and look, and updates dont really change much, especially when average lifespan of device is 3 years.

@Akinaro I guess you need to get a life man. Having time to write so much BS doesn't show like you have one...
Updates are important not just for the futures - about security too. And for the price of the phone you deserve better.
And you say "stop crying" but you are crying too... It's kinda funny. We all have different demands, some people like you settle with less, others want more. I respect people that are ready to fight when someone screwed them... So many better options out there than Huawei and their greedy a**
P.S: Using MEMEs is so mature...

MartinDimchev said:
@Akinaro I guess you need to get a life man. Having time to write so much BS doesn't show like you have one...
Updates are important not just for the futures - about security too. And for the price of the phone you deserve better.
And you say "stop crying" but you are crying too... It's kinda funny. We all have different demands, some people like you settle with less, others want more. I respect people that are ready to fight when someone screwed them... So many better options out there than Huawei and their greedy a**
P.S: Using MEMEs is so mature...
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Writing that and finding that meme took me less than 2 minutes, in the same time I was preparing diner. And by willing to prepare food with intent of eating it, I can say that I have life, because I was not focusing 100% on that so much. Not to mention that Im not spending lots of time here posting sad comment about not getting update...
Second thing. yes, of course Im not mature, because your emojs are more mature than images with text that I used WAY before they where called memes that just express specific idea/though in funny way...
Of course, yes, humor and making fun is not mature... I will say that when I meet stand-up comedian or people who make comedy shows, especially writers that by average are 40 years old. Im barely 29, so compared to comedians Im a just a kid, so I think I have that nice possibility to use "memes"...
And sadly I see that you not really get the idea behind expression "crying"...
I would explain it to you, but, guess what? Its not my job. and and right about now, I spend 1 minute and 20 second writing that reply in the same time focusing on eating and watching on my P9 latest news.... because i dont really need update for that....
PS. dont compare security updates to major os updates... its really sad that people in xda forum cant really separate such simple things in their minds...
Good day :]

And again 1000 lines with nothing important in them (skipped most of them). Too much free time man, and too much on the internet I guess. Emojis is a lot different than MEMEs... It's not about the time to find it, it's about using it at all, when you can just write it.
So enjoy your dinner and then cut the internet cord - as it looks like it's not good for you. At least take a break for a while.
Have a good day.

si actualización para el p9.
https://www.androidhits.com/android-oreo-huawei-opens-registrations-beta-test-p9-emui-8/

josean36 said:
si actualización para el p9.
https://www.androidhits.com/android-oreo-huawei-opens-registrations-beta-test-p9-emui-8/
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Thanks for this link. It seems there are different infos atm and we have to wait. Newest Beta App is running fine but no projects available..

He's right. An almost 600 euro expensive phone which after a little more than 1.5 years now no Oreo gets more is absolute Bull****
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@Akinaro, @MartinDimchev and @Simon G,
That's really not the point. The point is : a couple of website had some information to the Oreo coming on P9 and the Beta program seems to be active for the P9, according to the access, indeed there's no project availability.
So, if you want to debate to the software support of Huawei, open your own thread and don't pollute this one.

Until the official announcement we cant say any thing... I read somewhere that huawei has 2 major update policy for its flagship phones... so until it is official dont share wrong info...✌✌

Akinaro said:
So now relax, use your phone as always, because guess what? it will work even without update.
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I can't because it doesn't work without update. I had to disable bluetooth due to CVE-2017-0785 and WIFI due to CVE-2017-13077 to CVE-2017-13088.

Lol.

TrivialPanPan said:
@Akinaro, @MartinDimchev and @Simon G,
That's really not the point. The point is : a couple of website had some information to the Oreo coming on P9 and the Beta program seems to be active for the P9, according to the access, indeed there's no project availability.
So, if you want to debate to the software support of Huawei, open your own thread and don't pollute this one.
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But for the app they doesn't say which phones can install it to wait for beta... It was released for the Mate 9

josean36 said:
si actualización para el p9.
https://www.androidhits.com/android-oreo-huawei-opens-registrations-beta-test-p9-emui-8/
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This Beta is not for P9 is for Mate9

What? The beta app is for mate 9?
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Found this :
https://translate.googleusercontent...4069/2&usg=ALkJrhjzCj6H-IyYCTaUy-V3NJ15YuX2nA
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alexz0ne said:
Found this :
https://translate.googleusercontent...4069/2&usg=ALkJrhjzCj6H-IyYCTaUy-V3NJ15YuX2nA
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Nice one @alexz0ne!

End-of-Life-of-MXPE - This product will no longer receive security updates.

moto x pure edition (2015)
Android 7 (Nougat) rollout began in November 2017.
Click here to learn more about Android 7 (Nougat).
Do you have the latest Motorola software? Find out.
Security updates
This product will no longer receive security updates.
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/softwareupgrade

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moto x pure edition (2015)
Android 7 (Nougat) rollout began in November 2017.
Click here to learn more about Android 7 (Nougat).
Do you have the latest Motorola software? Find out.
Security updates
This product will no longer receive security updates.
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/softwareupgrade
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Ok. Not trying to be condescending, but most of us already figured that Lenovo would be dropping their support. It is almost 3 years since release and 2 years or so of support at most is pretty standard.
If the lack of support for security updates bothers anyone, there are 2 options available: custom ROMs or upgrade to a newer device. Personally, I think being smart about installing apps and basic personal good security habits should be sufficient to protect a user.

It is very unusual for any Moto device to get upgrades/updates after 24 months past release... In general figure that if it's been out 18 months, it's done. This is nothing unusual, if you expect more than that your kidding yourself.

RIP it was a good journey

Andronikou said:
RIP it was a good journey
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Really? So on reading the above you just destroyed your phone?
Mine isn't dead, it's as good as the day I bought it and does 95% of what I want from a phone.
As aybarrap1 says intelligent informed use of your phone mitigates any security problems. It isn't any worse today than it was yesterday or last month!

m+a+r+k said:
Really? So on reading the above you just destroyed your phone?
Mine isn't dead, it's as good as the day I bought it and does 95% of what I want from a phone.
As aybarrap1 says intelligent informed use of your phone mitigates any security problems. It isn't any worse today than it was yesterday or last month!
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This... As far as "security updates" go, they are largely just a marketing gimmick. I've written several post on why they are not realky important so I won't do it again.

If my moto didn't crap out., I would still be using it with out security updates. But I moved on to Pixel 2 xl. Glad the moto died now. Moved on to pixel 2 xl. Loving every minute of it. It will be a matter of time phones will be just way to expensive to keep up with next best thing. Phones are at there limit and are in a stale mate with technology. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the next 2 to 3 years a major slow down on purchases of phones. Then the rise of pay per security updates. Phone companies still making money.

StankFiss said:
If my moto didn't crap out., I would still be using it with out security updates. But I moved on to Pixel 2 xl. Glad the moto died now. Moved on to pixel 2 xl. Loving every minute of it. It will be a matter of time phones will be just way to expensive to keep up with next best thing. Phones are at there limit and are in a stale mate with technology. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the next 2 to 3 years a major slow down on purchases of phones. Then the rise of pay per security updates. Phone companies still making money.
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Updates as DLC? Scary...

acejavelin said:
Updates as DLC? Scary...
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Android as a service, pay per month.

zeroibis said:
Android as a service, pay per month.
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Eh... Why not? Microsoft is already considering Desktop As A Service... What could go wrong? Lol

acejavelin said:
Eh... Why not? Microsoft is already considering Desktop As A Service... What could go wrong? Lol
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Yep, that is exactly what I was referencing. :silly:

Our mxpe/style can run O and P, the reason for it is greedyness of a company wanting you to "buy" the newest latest tech that comes with latest OS. BS, I want the latest features and energy efficiency OS.
Like m+a+r+k said, it's still like new, knock on wood. Mine is going on 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 years old depending on the production date. I'm not one that can afford a new phone so I am stuck with I got and happy I didn't pick the nexus at the same time the mxpe came out well because my mxpe is still rolling.
Anyways, I facebooked on Android story page of Android Pie and you do not want to know what I said I also tagged lenovo and motorola on this particular subject on that page, letting know what I think of them for doing this when the phone can run o and p just "cussing" fine.

StankFiss said:
If my moto didn't crap out., I would still be using it with out security updates. But I moved on to Pixel 2 xl. Glad the moto died now. Moved on to pixel 2 xl. Loving every minute of it. It will be a matter of time phones will be just way to expensive to keep up with next best thing. Phones are at there limit and are in a stale mate with technology. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the next 2 to 3 years a major slow down on purchases of phones. Then the rise of pay per security updates. Phone companies still making money.
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If mine died I would probably go for a Pixel 2. They'll be fantastic bargains when the Pixel 3 comes out. My main device is a Pixel C and so I can't justify £500-800 for a phone which is essentially just my communication device and music/podcast player!
How did we get to the point where £800 is the norm for top devices? Crazy!

Hitti2 said:
Our mxpe/style can run O and P, the reason for it is greedyness of a company wanting you to "buy" the newest latest tech that comes with latest OS. BS, I want the latest features and energy efficiency OS.
Like m+a+r+k said, it's still like new, knock on wood. Mine is going on 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 years old depending on the production date. I'm not one that can afford a new phone so I am stuck with I got and happy I didn't pick the nexus at the same time the mxpe came out well because my mxpe is still rolling.
Anyways, I facebooked on Android story page of Android Pie and you do not want to know what I said I also tagged lenovo and motorola on this particular subject on that page, letting know what I think of them for doing this when the phone can run o and p just "cussing" fine.
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This topic has been beaten to death... It is what it is. It's purely a ROI thing, so I don't blame them honestly. Why invest hundreds of man hours in a device that 90% of users won't keep more than 2 years anyway?

m+a+r+k said:
If mine died I would probably go for a Pixel 2. They'll be fantastic bargains when the Pixel 3 comes out. My main device is a Pixel C and so I can't justify £500-800 for a phone which is essentially just my communication device and music/podcast player!
How did we get to the point where £800 is the norm for top devices? Crazy!
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I bought second hand. But the person owned if for little over 30 days so they couldn't return and I know the person. They just didn't like the vanilla android and the slight blue when looking at it more than a 45 degree angle. I got use to it and now don't even notice. Pixel 2 xl is a beast. Always reached 8 hr SOT with 15% to spare when I do run the heck out it. That's with 60% brightness all the time. Bought for half price.
Side note though. Yes you can run roms with O and soon P on the XPE but roms are glitchy. Every one I've run into is made by very good DEVS but they make it to their liking. DEVS will soon abandon the XPE just like all other phones. I would pay moto for OS updates but not security updates. Security updates like stated before is just to give some warm and fuzzy like you're safe. I don't keep credit cards on my phone. If they want my emails they can have them. I do not store anything on my phone that will benefit any thief.

Android 7 on the Moto X Pure is great... I've been using 8.1 and now 9.0 on the essential phone and IMO Google has gone backwards more than forwards since 7.1.
If I hadn't picked up the Essential Phone for $250 on primeday I would use the Moto for another year... Or more. Definitely keeping it as a backup.

Charles7 said:
Android 7 on the Moto X Pure is great... I've been using 8.1 and now 9.0 on the essential phone and IMO Google has gone backwards more than forwards since 7.1.
If I hadn't picked up the Essential Phone for $250 on primeday I would use the Moto for another year... Or more. Definitely keeping it as a backup.
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I agree. Lots of bugs still in 8.1.

StankFiss said:
I agree. Lots of bugs still in 8.1.
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IMO 8.1 just didn't add much for the user and 9.0 is all about restriction, becoming more Apple like with a joke of a gesture navigation. So for me, 8+ is a big meh... I can happily live without them if I had to.

LOL...I would love to see how they would implement android as a service. The core of android itself is Linux based so there is the first issue. Aside from that, with so many hands in the pot implementing their own stuff into android, I can't see any common ground really being reached...especially when it could be seen as colluding.
As are as device support ending by the 2 year mark, no surprise there. This is common practice in the industry and it will probably not change. In fact, with most devices being released today having the batteries not being user-replaceable, it just helps companies sell more devices. Anyone who is a moderate to heavy user can attest that the battery longevity considerably depletes in 2 years. I have known people to use phones 3 or more years if the battery was easily replaceable. The companies could not win with stopping updates, but they are because of diminishing battery life.
Personally I would not being willing to pay for OS upgrades. They should be provided for 18 to 24 months for free. If it works, and the apps I need work, then so be it. By the time the apps will no longer work with the older OS, the device is probably over 4 years since release and it is time to move on.

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Android 7 on the Moto X Pure is great... I've been using 8.1 and now 9.0 on the essential phone and IMO Google has gone backwards more than forwards since 7.1.
If I hadn't picked up the Essential Phone for $250 on primeday I would use the Moto for another year... Or more. Definitely keeping it as a backup.
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It sounds stupid but i wanted oreo notification features and so i got em. Found the app material notification shade for my stock nougat 7.0 rooted and substratum dark grey theme, bought both. I officially happy with my setup, more than happy now, estatic actually.
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Seems we have come to the End for the EP

It's probably not news to everyone that Essential has thrown in the towel on the Essential Phone
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/12/28/it-looks-like-the-end-has-finally-come-to-the-essential-phone/
Sad news really ... This is the first phone I've had that I really really loved
I basically quite looking at other phones after owning this one.
Hopefully something else will come along that sparks my interest, maybe a Oneplus is in my future ?

For me, this is a sad occasion too. My Essential phone has been amazing and I don't think I've loved a phone the same way. I can toy with this thing a ton, with it being Treble compatible and pretty close to stock android. (I even watched I/O 18 live, and cheered when Essential was revealed to be on the beta list for pie.) Right now if you guys want one last fling at a rooted tweak for the Essential phone, check out this Magisk Module from the Lawnchair Launcher team, called Quickstep Switcher.
https://twitter.com/lawnchairapp/status/1078692474795769857
It switches your recents provider on a system level, allowing for launchers like Lawnchair and OnePlus Launcher to use their Pie navigation features on your device. The modded OnePlus Launcher they provided in the Telegram chat gives you iPhone X-Series fluid animations and movements. It's been a great ride y'all. See ya on the OnePlus 7 forums next year.

The PH1 is no longer for sale
but Essential is not dead yet.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...one-discontinued-new-mobile-product-confirmed
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It's been pretty well known that Essential has been working on a new smartphone for a couple of months. They're definitely not dead.

Sad news but...Does it mean that we won't have more monthly updates?

Darkside1984 said:
Sad news but...Does it mean that we won't have more monthly updates?
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No they have said the updates will keep coming. And it's not as if the device will just quit now. People are such drama queens.

autosurgeon said:
No they have said the updates will keep coming. And it's not as if the device will just quit now. People are such drama queens.
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it's the end of an era, not really about the drama
As for them selling another phone, I have yet to see any news that confirms this.
"We are now hard at work on our next mobile product" doesn't really mean anything
some are speculating it means
But as part of that announcement, the company is also confirming something that fans had long hoped to be true: Essential is officially working on a second “mobile product,” presumably this rumored tiny phone that uses AI to answer emails and text messages for you. An Essential spokeswoman wouldn’t directly confirm to me that its “next mobile product” is a phone, but that’s what “mobile product” generally means.
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https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...one-discontinued-new-mobile-product-confirmed
I be leave are phones will continue to be updated, but it's still sad to here production has stopped.

I suspect production has been over for 6 months or more likely a year.

The way read their statement is that they are stopping current production but will launch a new "AI" phone sometime. So definitely not dead.

No phone is restocked after an year and half, I don't see issues here..
It's old tech* now, nobody would buy a phone with an 835 when phone with 855 are in the pipeline for the next weeks... nobody gives a fk when any other company stops the production of older phones.. I really don't get why in this case there are news about it!
All media always had something negative to say about this phone.. in a way that's not justified in my opinion.
*Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's the best phone I ever had. To me, that I have bought it at a very convenient price, is the only true spiritual successor to nexus 5, just much better under every aspect.. but I bought it more than 1 year ago.. No people would like to buy a one plus 5, new from one plus, today.

Is there any chance ROM development will stop soon on this phone? I'm thinking of buying this phone used due to the stock nature but if ROM development is stopping soon as well, then I'll look elsewhere

StDevious said:
Is there any chance ROM development will stop soon on this phone? I'm thinking of buying this phone used due to the stock nature but if ROM development is stopping soon as well, then I'll look elsewhere
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ROM development will last years on a device like this.
Your biggest issue would be missing out on 5g in the next year... But as long as you plan to upgrade in 2-3 years from now you'll be fine and not miss much.

nascar48 said:
ROM development will last years on a device like this.
Your biggest issue would be missing out on 5g in the next year... But as long as you plan to upgrade in 2-3 years from now you'll be fine and not miss much.
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If there is 5 g in your area.
There are many places where 5G will probably never get there.
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https://www.computerworld.com/article/3310067/mobile-wireless/why-5g-will-disappoint-everyone.html
Edit2: grammar

chk27 said:
No phone is restocked after an year and half, I don't see issues here..
It's old tech* now, nobody would buy a phone with an 835 when phone with 855 are in the pipeline for the next weeks... nobody gives a fk when any other company stops the production of older phones.. I really don't get why in this case there are news about it!
All media always had something negative to say about this phone.. in a way that's not justified in my opinion.
*Don't get me wrong, I love it, it's the best phone I ever had. To me, that I have bought it at a very convenient price, is the only true spiritual successor to nexus 5, just much better under every aspect.. but I bought it more than 1 year ago.. No people would like to buy a one plus 5, new from one plus, today.
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I just bought the phone (granted I got it for free "essentially "^_^) but those specs mean nothing to me. Day to day performance and prompt updates which it looks like essential has been doing is important to me. People get WAY too caught up in these new SoC's when the originals have BARELY been tapped out and for 99% of people, they don't need more.

https://www.slashgear.com/evidence-essential-phone-ph-2-will-be-a-penultimate-evolution-06564808/
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Support told me an email the are working on their next mobile product.
The Phone has been out a while and I picked mine up new open box for $199.
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EMUI 10 for our beloved M5 might be coming soon?

According to this support message from July 31, 2020, the rep said they are continually optimizing the experience of EMUI 10.0 and asked to wait patiently.
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What do you folks think, there is hope?

I'm still on 8.0 since I have a US version. If any M5 is updated to 10, I will be shocked.
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I'm still on 8.0 since I have a US version. If any M5 is updated to 10, I will be shocked.
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Wow, this is awful. Mine is from the UK and I'm on 9.1.0.335
I thought the US owners were able to update already. Did you try the "Unable to receive official system updates" guide on Huawei's website or running the HiSense update software on PC?
It really disappoints me that we're even having this conversation regarding a two-year-old device. I will probably never buy another Huawey product again if that's the case. I'd expect to see at least EMUI 10 and Android 10 for the M5.

pyramid_head said:
Wow, this is awful. Mine is from the UK and I'm on 9.1.0.335
I thought the US owners were able to update already. Did you try the "Unable to receive official system updates" guide on Huawei's website or running the HiSense update software on PC?
It really disappoints me that we're even having this conversation regarding a two-year-old device. I will probably never buy another Huawey product again if that's the case. I'd expect to see at least EMUI 10 and Android 10 for the M5.
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It's now dropped off the support list completely - so don't expect any more updates. Still, at least in the UK/EU it's had more support than most Android providing manufacturers.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/bulletin/
Now what other reasonably priced, higher spec android tablets are there out there?

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.... Still, at least in the UK/EU it's had more support than most Android providing manufacturers.
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well, one major release and two years of security patches is not so much, I was expecting a bit more from Huawei. At least they could open the device completely so that one can flash all partitions and not only system, boot and recovery.
Probably I should at least have a look at some actual GSI ...

AndDiSa said:
well, one major release and two years of security patches is not so much, I was expecting a bit more from Huawei. At least they could open the device completely so that one can flash all partitions and not only system, boot and recovery.
Probably I should at least have a look at some actual GSI ...
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It's also not what Huawei promised - in theory, it was one major OS update, 2 years feature updates, and 3 years security patches. However, given the Huawei/China vs Trump thing I can understand that going out the window.
However, as I keep asking, who else does supported, decent Android tablets at a reasonable price? I paid £220 for my 8.4" M5 2 and a bit years ago, and there isn't anything obvious at that type of price now.

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It's also not what Huawei promised - in theory, it was one major OS update, 2 years feature updates, and 3 years security patches. However, given the Huawei/China vs Trump thing I can understand that going out the window.
However, as I keep asking, who else does supported, decent Android tablets at a reasonable price? I paid £220 for my 8.4" M5 2 and a bit years ago, and there isn't anything obvious at that type of price now.
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Exactly. The Samsung tablets with fingerprint reader cost more than £600 and now I am so used to using the fingerprint instead of typing passwords all the time that I don't want a tablet without a reader.
One of the many reasons to hate Trump is that the best provider of Android hardware of the last three or four years has now disappeared from the market.

anonimo said:
Exactly. The Samsung tablets with fingerprint reader cost more than £600 and now I am so used to using the fingerprint instead of typing passwords all the time that I don't want a tablet without a reader.
One of the many reasons to hate Trump is that the best provider of Android hardware of the last three or four years has now disappeared from the market.
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I wouldn't say they've disappeared - but they are now using an AOSP build and have no access to Google Services out of the box. Which in turn reduces the practicality for many people, depending on the apps available in the App Gallery.

I don't belive in this. I've got the Media Pad M5 Pro (C431)
Stil (SEPTEMBER 20!!!) on Android 8.0.0 with July patch 2019
Support says - No update available for my device (Tried 5 different supporters)
I'm really angry coz it's the PRO Model.

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I don't belive in this. I've got the Media Pad M5 Pro (C431)
Stil (SEPTEMBER 20!!!) on Android 8.0.0 with July patch 2019
Support says - No update available for my device (Tried 5 different supporters)
I'm really angry coz it's the PRO Model.
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Your device is CMR-AL19 or CMR-W19? For the LTE version there should be available 9.1.0.351 or 9.1.0.352 ... for the WiFi version I didn't find any update.