My watch 4 has the following issue: even when connected in bluetooth, it still "thinks" to be disconnected, and therefore it turns on Wi-fi and LTE, draining a HUGE amount of battery in the process. The only way to stop this insanity is to turn off both Wifi and LTE. Why is this auto feature not working? I tried resetting the watch but nothing changed. And it's not related to the LTE plan as the issue is present also when LTE is off or not set. Any thoughts?
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if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
No, you don't need to.
When you connect to a wi-fi connection, the 3G data will automatically switch off (logo on status bar will go away) and it will return when you switch wi-fi off.
funstuffalex said:
if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
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what?
The phone will prioritize the WiFi connection over the 3G connection unless the WiFi is turned off, it's signal drops out(resulting in a disconnects), or you have the default still set for WiFi to turn off when the screen is off.
Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
xspyda said:
Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
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Once the WiFi signal it's connected to is lost, it will switch the data 3G connection back on. Once you're out of range of remembered WiFi networks, it does scan for new/known WiFi signals to automatically connect to(only in the case of known signals, it will not try to connect to unknown networks).
As far as impact on battery, I don't think it's much. Only one time has WiFi ever creeped up on my battery use meter and that was on a particularly light day. I still finished my work day at little over 70% battery. There's an app on the market called WiFi Toggle which can help you automatically manage the phones WiFi chip. For instance, one setting will let it turn the WiFi on for a second, scan for known networks and connect if it finds them. If it doesn't, it turns it back off.
That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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I've been saying this for a while too. I came from Nokia symbian phones where they initiated the data session only when needed, like opening the browser etc. Android does not do this, instead it keeps a data session on all the time. Anytime you see that 3g symbol on an android phone means its data session is open. This is why android gets such poor battery life across all models and manufacturers.
Take one day as a test and simulate your symbian use by turning off mobile data, and your battery life will sky rocket on your nexus. So really It's just a trade off to make knowing you're always connected vs on others like symbian you need to manually do something to open the connection.
Oh and WiFi gets so much better battery life over 3g on android.
Hah strange topic I know. So here's the story:
I had a Galaxy S5, Telldus Live Net, Remotestick and Tasker. Telldus Live Net was connected to my lights, Remotestick was connected to Telldus Live and finally Tasker was watching my WiFi connection.
This means that whenever my WiFi connection dropped, my lights would turn off. So If I left my home, and lost WiFi connection, lights would turn off.
But an update to my Galaxy S5 made the WiFi connection to drop every now and then causing my lights to turn off when I was still home. I had hoped the Galaxy S7 would not have this problem, but alas it does.
I doubt there are many others out there that does what I do with Remotestick but I thought I'd create a Q&A about it for reference purposes. I have a link to an old video that explains what I did with Tasker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wox9VNNynp0
This is my second phone to have this problem. First was my old S4, now my S7 has the same problem. Basically, I want to watch YouTube or Netflix on my phone over Wi-Fi, and I want to listen to it on a bluetooth headset. But after a few minutes of watching/listening, my Wi-Fi connection always dies, I get that little exclamation point next to the Wi-Fi symbol in my notification panel, and the only way to fix it is to turn off Wi-Fi and turn it back on. It'll work for another couple minutes, then die again and need to be reset. Bluetooth stays connected the whole time and never drops. It's just the Wi-Fi that gets dropped. If I turn Bluetooth off and just listen via phone speaker or wired headphones, no problem, Wi-Fi can cruise all day.
The research I've done suggested that 2.4GHz might be causing a problem, but my network is 5GHz. Another suggestion was to switch the phone to a static IP address, that didn't help. I'd also read that Android has problems with IPv6, so I went to disable that in my router and discovered that it's never been on.
So, I found three solutions on my own, and none of them worked. Now it's time to reach out to the brain trust here. Does anyone have any idea what might be the problem? Vanilla S7, no root or ROMs. Thanks!
dstarr3 said:
This is my second phone to have this problem. First was my old S4, now my S7 has the same problem. Basically, I want to watch YouTube or Netflix on my phone over Wi-Fi, and I want to listen to it on a bluetooth headset. But after a few minutes of watching/listening, my Wi-Fi connection always dies, I get that little exclamation point next to the Wi-Fi symbol in my notification panel, and the only way to fix it is to turn off Wi-Fi and turn it back on. It'll work for another couple minutes, then die again and need to be reset. Bluetooth stays connected the whole time and never drops. It's just the Wi-Fi that gets dropped. If I turn Bluetooth off and just listen via phone speaker or wired headphones, no problem, Wi-Fi can cruise all day.
The research I've done suggested that 2.4GHz might be causing a problem, but my network is 5GHz. Another suggestion was to switch the phone to a static IP address, that didn't help. I'd also read that Android has problems with IPv6, so I went to disable that in my router and discovered that it's never been on.
So, I found three solutions on my own, and none of them worked. Now it's time to reach out to the brain trust here. Does anyone have any idea what might be the problem? Vanilla S7, no root or ROMs. Thanks!
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Have you tried the usual first step in troubleshooting, have you tried booting to recovery and wiping the cache partition?
You can also try flashing the stock firmware for your model number via Odin.
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Hello everyone,
Is there a possibility to use AutoWear to turn on LTE only when the watch is no longer connected to the phone via bluetooth or wifi? I'm sure this will save battery life. One presumption is that calls over wifi to the watch would work. If they don't, not much point of turning off LTE.
I read a few posts stating that AutoWear for Wear OS 3 may not be properly optimized. Is this still the case?
I found a similar topic posted in r/AndroidWear 4 years ago and at that time, the developer had said that this isn't possible as they didn't have access to the LTE radio. Does anyone know if that's how things still are?
Thank you
No need for this. There is an "auto" option under mobile networks on the connection settings on the watch that does exactly what you say.
Oh that's brilliant!
Does it still stay connected to the network and turn off mobile data or does it pretty much go on airplane mode with only wifi and bluetooth being on?
vigneshnm said:
Oh that's brilliant!
Does it still stay connected to the network and turn off mobile data or does it pretty much go on airplane mode with only wifi and bluetooth being on?
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It disables network connection shortly after you are connected to your phone via Bluetooth or Wifi.
Just to add that the same happens with Wifi. You can either fully deactivate it or have it on an auto setting where it turns on only if you are not connected to your phone via BT or for apps that required Wifi such as downloading songs on Spotify
That's exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks a lot for confirming this.
So essentially, if the watch is always connected to the phone, there shouldn't be much of a difference in the battery life between the LTE and non-LTE versions
There is only one problem - for me, setting LTE to car consumed 30% of the battery in 1 day, even though it did not lose the BT connection for a moment (maybe max 5 minutes).
SebaRoz said:
There is only one problem - for me, setting LTE to car consumed 30% of the battery in 1 day, even though it did not lose the BT connection for a moment (maybe max 5 minutes).
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Sorry, I didn't understand. Setting LTE to car? What does that mean?
vigneshnm said:
Sorry, I didn't understand. Setting LTE to car? What does that mean?
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I'm sure the author of the posts made the mistake. he wanted to say that the galaxy watch 4 has an error at the moment (01/21/2022)? at least for me, the bluetooth is connected, but the LTE connection stays connected as well, so the battery uses both BT and LTE, although my active2 when BT is connected, the LTE connection disconnects automatically ... although on the galaxy watch 4 the LTE connection is set to connect / disconnect automatically
i thought LTE auto mode was supposed to turn off when phone is nearby and turn on when phone is out of range, but for some reason even when my phone is nearby and connected, the watch LTE remains on. anyone else having this issue or know how to fix?