if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
No, you don't need to.
When you connect to a wi-fi connection, the 3G data will automatically switch off (logo on status bar will go away) and it will return when you switch wi-fi off.
funstuffalex said:
if i have bouth data and wifi turned on and i am connected to a wifi spot...do i need to turn off the data conection first before it will stop sucking my topup?
shouldnt the device make sure it uses wifi if wireless network is available?
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what?
The phone will prioritize the WiFi connection over the 3G connection unless the WiFi is turned off, it's signal drops out(resulting in a disconnects), or you have the default still set for WiFi to turn off when the screen is off.
Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
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Am I right in thinking that although the 3g connection will kick in when the wifi signal is lost the phone will still continue looking for a wifi signal and therefore impact on the battery?
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Once the WiFi signal it's connected to is lost, it will switch the data 3G connection back on. Once you're out of range of remembered WiFi networks, it does scan for new/known WiFi signals to automatically connect to(only in the case of known signals, it will not try to connect to unknown networks).
As far as impact on battery, I don't think it's much. Only one time has WiFi ever creeped up on my battery use meter and that was on a particularly light day. I still finished my work day at little over 70% battery. There's an app on the market called WiFi Toggle which can help you automatically manage the phones WiFi chip. For instance, one setting will let it turn the WiFi on for a second, scan for known networks and connect if it finds them. If it doesn't, it turns it back off.
That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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That's as I thought, thanks for the confirmation. I'd really like something to make the android phones act like the nokias in this respect - only turn on a data connection when needed (ie when the browser is fired up) and also prioritise the connections such that if a pre programmed known wifi network is available it will connect to that but if not switch to 3g data. There is no scanning for wifi networks all the time.
Nice to know it doesn't seem to impact on the battery though and yes before anyone mentions it I am aware android devices are designed to be always connected
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I've been saying this for a while too. I came from Nokia symbian phones where they initiated the data session only when needed, like opening the browser etc. Android does not do this, instead it keeps a data session on all the time. Anytime you see that 3g symbol on an android phone means its data session is open. This is why android gets such poor battery life across all models and manufacturers.
Take one day as a test and simulate your symbian use by turning off mobile data, and your battery life will sky rocket on your nexus. So really It's just a trade off to make knowing you're always connected vs on others like symbian you need to manually do something to open the connection.
Oh and WiFi gets so much better battery life over 3g on android.
Hi everybody,
Forgive me if the answer has been posted to this, but I have not been able to find it.
I live in a huge apartment, that sadly do not have proper wifi coverage. This means that when I am in half of the apartment I can reach my router but with signal so low that it is useless. The result is no wifi and no 3G unless I turn wifi off.
So I was thinking, when I am in the wifi reachable part of my apartment, I usually have my phone charging. I only use wifi for syncing, so charging is a good idea anyways.
So here is my question: Is there a way (or an app) that would make my Desire HD automatically turn on wifi ONLY when I connect to an AC charger or USB, and turn wifi off when I unplug the phone again?
This could make my life so much easier. I hope someone is able to help me with this.
Thanks in advance...
Kingkeld.
I think this is possible with tasker, but i am not sure
Or with SuperPower.
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I think this is possible with tasker, but i am not sure
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It is possible with tasker, I have a similar profile
Go for Tasker, it's a bit clunky but you'll pick up how to set the rules quickly.
Pretty sure you can set it up so that wifi will come on when it's plugged in and you're home (detected by the phone network) so that if you are at a friend's and plug your phone in it won't automatically turn wifi on.
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Go for Tasker, it's a bit clunky but you'll pick up how to set the rules quickly.
Pretty sure you can set it up so that wifi will come on when it's plugged in and you're home (detected by the phone network) so that if you are at a friend's and plug your phone in it won't automatically turn wifi on.
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Thanks, everyone. I will try them both out.
Hi guys
I do not own the watch yet but have just been informed that apparently the WiFi model still relies on a smartphone to connect to the internet, is this true?
(I was told that the WiFi in the watch is simply a WiFi direct and that it will not work when the phone is off.)
My use case is the following: I wish to write my own applications for it that can connect to WiFi networks independently of the phone and can make API queries from Javascript
without using my phone's internet connection but instead directly connecting to,say, my company's wifi. Is this possible?
I know that without my smartphone active, the watch obviously won't have access to my smartphone notifications, but that is not what I am looking for in a watch anyway.
My ideas are going more in the direction of querying my own API for my server(via json) so I can keep an eye on its status. Does such a thing work with the smartphone being off, or is this something that works exclusively with the 3G version of the S2? I would love to get the 3G model, but it isn't being sold in my country.
Nik
Yes, it is possible. The watch connects to the WiFi by itself... You don't need the phone for that
endeebee said:
Hi guys
I do not own the watch yet but have just been informed that apparently the WiFi model still relies on a smartphone to connect to the internet, is this true?
(I was told that the WiFi in the watch is simply a WiFi direct and that it will not work when the phone is off.)
My use case is the following: I wish to write my own applications for it that can connect to WiFi networks independently of the phone and can make API queries from Javascript
without using my phone's internet connection but instead directly connecting to,say, my company's wifi. Is this possible?
I know that without my smartphone active, the watch obviously won't have access to my smartphone notifications, but that is not what I am looking for in a watch anyway.
My ideas are going more in the direction of querying my own API for my server(via json) so I can keep an eye on its status. Does such a thing work with the smartphone being off, or is this something that works exclusively with the 3G version of the S2? I would love to get the 3G model, but it isn't being sold in my country.
Nik
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Yes, using WIFI to connect other than the watch is doable, the problem that I had was the battery drain, it drained the battery in 3 hours when I have the WIFI set to on. so now I only use it Bluetooth to my phone, and with that, it lasts 2-3 days without a charge.
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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The two devices will talk to each other whether wifi is turned on or off. Wifi comes in handy for apps like Spotify so you don't have to use up your data and apps like Kodi gear where you can control multimedia through your watch .
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I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
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You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
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Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
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No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
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Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
If you always have your phone with you (by definition this means within BT range) there is no reason to use WiFi. There is nothing that can be done via WiFi that can't be done via BT. But the reverse is not true.
So basically if you have your phone with you at all times, its a complete waste of battery. Turned off. Cheers.
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You mean while out of bluetooth range? If so yes, that is one of the usages of wifi.
No as @MobileUnlockBase pointed out already.
In Wifi mode you will keep receiving all kind of notifications including text, missing calls etc., but you can't make/receive phone call over wifi. Currently phone call over wifi is not available on this watch.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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I'm totally unclear on the purpose of Wifi on this watch! I turned off Bluetooth to use Wifi and it can't connect because the of "sign-in procedure not supported"! Does that mean it can only connect to an open network??? Those really don't exist these days.
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Lol, if i turn off password protection on my home network, then my neighbors will start using my Wifi! I can't believe Samsung overlooked this!! I'll just wait for a possible update???
I can confirm that it should connect to a wifi protected network. I use WPA2-PSK and it connects fine to my router.
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Why is there such a big discussion about wifi on this watch? The watch has wifi because Samsung wanted to put it in there and most of us are grateful. Do you want a smart watch without wifi? Again, there are apps like Spotify that it is better to be on wifi instead of GSM, depending on what network you use.
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The discussion is because people want to understand the uses of their watch. Having it is nice, but there aren't too many use case scenarios for it. Most of the time where WiFi is available, the phone will be close at hand and connected via BT. Streaming music (over WiFi or otherwise) is a very limited application because of the battery drain. If/when moreb Tizen apps are developed for the watch, using WiFi may become practical.
At home i do leave my phone in 1 place, keep my S3 on yes moving around its always BT, but moving further around the house when BT drops the WIFI takes over.
Also once i forgot my phone at home, but when i reached the gym (was registered for their WIFI) i still got my notifications etc.
But all in all no much use, but i left it on as could not discern much battery loss with it being on.
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
It's not about giving a use for WiFi all the time. Most of the time WiFi should be off to conserve battery. It is more about the one off scenarios like you forgot your phone at home, but you can connect to WiFi at work and tell your wife you are alive through a text... or for the tizen app developer, to test apps on your watch you need to connect to the watch via wifi... or for spotify.. there are several reasons to have it, but still it should be off Moore often than not
jestexman said:
you have to sync the wifi from your phone to the watch then it will just connect.. look on the gear app settings> gear connection > Sync wi-fi profiles..
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No it can connect password protected networks, my watch is connected to my home wifi right now, password protected ofc. Try changing encryption protocol(i'm on TKIP+AES) of your access point or try to connect to another access point.
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Odd, now it's connecting without doing either of your suggestions!!? Confusing!
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Well GWD needs the watch and PC connected to the same network (wifi) to get the faces from one place to another. Unless you get it into a store maybe, but having it on wifi is handy to test things out as you add them and modify themes.
Just to share my opinion. In my work I’m not allowed to have the phone with me. So the solution to continue receiving my notifications are through WiFi, and it works perfectly.
Streaming music from Spotify on my watch over Wifi.
scoob101 said:
I believe the point of having Wifi at all on the gear S3 is so that your phone can continue to talk to your gear via the Samsung account over the internet (assuming both devices are on and connected to the internet over wifi)
Is this the only use case for Wifi being turned on?
Does this scenario only cover alerts, or will it also support calls texts and emails?
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WiFi (WiFi Direct) is also used for syncing Images, songs and large apps over to your watch; these would otherwise take lots of time over Bluetooth.
After last update there is no connection via wifi with my phone.. Does someone experienced the same issue?
My watch 4 has the following issue: even when connected in bluetooth, it still "thinks" to be disconnected, and therefore it turns on Wi-fi and LTE, draining a HUGE amount of battery in the process. The only way to stop this insanity is to turn off both Wifi and LTE. Why is this auto feature not working? I tried resetting the watch but nothing changed. And it's not related to the LTE plan as the issue is present also when LTE is off or not set. Any thoughts?