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Technicians say my XDA II Mini is "Beyond Economical Repair" - Is it really dead?
Dear XDA Developers,
This week I tried to do a ROM Upgrade for my Magician and accidentally clicked something that stopped the upgrade mid-way. Then the phone was completely lifeless. Even the power light does not come on when I plug it in.
Pressing the power button does not produce any response at all. I took it to the official service center for this type of 02 phone here in Manila in the Philippines and after examining for several hours they judged that it was "beyond economical repair". Is that really the end of the story? Is there some business somewhere that can resurrect it?
If not perhaps the warning element of this web site's rom upgrade page should be strengthened. Usually we assume that anything software related can be recovered by restoring a device to factory settings. This situation seems to be an exception to that.
Intuitively I think the process of upgrading the ROM on the official 02 web site is safter. Unfortunately their download file was corrupted and their tech support guy did not hold out much hope that the company would post a working version anytime soon. The official method does not seem to require putting the phone into "bootloader mode" which is how I think I killed the phone.
Anyway should I assume that my phone really is dead? or is there some company I can send it to for a repair? Is there any trick I can use to get the lifeless phone back to life?
best Wishes,
Philip Truscott
Beyond Economical repair - it means it can still be fixed, however, it might be more sensible just to let it rest and buy a new phone rather than having to spend more on repair..
ptruscott said:
If not perhaps the warning element of this web site's rom upgrade page should be strengthened. Usually we assume that anything software related can be recovered by restoring a device to factory settings. This situation seems to be an exception to that.
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ROm upgrading is not just software related, compared to just simply installing an MP3 player on your PPC..when changing ROMs we always assume that if something goes wrong its our fault, it is not to be fiddled by noobs, it requires a technical know how. In fine, i am indeed emphatic with what happened to your device, and i hope a good soul would be able to help revive your PPC, but i hav to say its really your lookout when doing some operation not specifically permitted by the manufacturer or your carrier.
howdy,
unless it was a hardware fault, i have never ever heard of an interreupted update having destroyed a machine!!!
have you tried emptying ALL batteries totally? (backup battery as well!)
chances are pretty good once you reconnect it via as to get a noriginal rom update running again.
if all fails,
try contacting member fdp24 via pn ( if he still exists!)
greetz
Hi,
We have some capable Windows Mobile technicians that can probably help you with your device. Send me a PM and I'll help you get in touch with the right people. I assume you brought it to Brightpoint?
I just spoke with the Android dept at AT&T who where I spoke to a gentleman named Jeremy Everson. After he informed me that I was the 6th caller he had had in the past 3 hours about the failing updates...he called Samsung on a 3-way conversation with me.
Here's what I found out. If you DO NOT HAVE GPS, EMAIL OR MMS PROBLEMS...THEN THE UPDATE MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. THIS IS ATT AND SAMSUNGS RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY ARE GOING TO FIX IT.
AT&T IS WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH SAMSUNG AND MR. EVERSON INFORMED ME THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED AT THE BLURRY COMMUNICATION WITH SAMSUNG OVER THIS UPDATE.
All in all...there are no answers yet as to why this update isnt working...but we know that it is causing problems.
Basically, what that tells me is stop resetting, odin-ing, unrooting, and reflashing...it is a problem on Samsungs end...not your device.
fiendiish said:
I just spoke with the Android dept at AT&T who where I spoke to a gentleman named Jeremy Everson. After he informed me that I was the 6th caller he had had in the past 3 hours about the failing updates...he called Samsung on a 3-way conversation with me.
Here's what I found out. If you DO NOT HAVE GPS, EMAIL OR MMS PROBLEMS...THEN THE UPDATE MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. THIS IS ATT AND SAMSUNGS RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY ARE GOING TO FIX IT.
AT&T IS WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH SAMSUNG AND MR. EVERSON INFORMED ME THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED AT THE BLURRY COMMUNICATION WITH SAMSUNG OVER THIS UPDATE.
All in all...there are no answers yet as to why this update isnt working...but we know that it is causing problems.
Basically, what that tells me is stop resetting, odin-ing, unrooting, and reflashing...it is a problem on Samsungs end...not your device.
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That doesn't help those of us with completely bricked phones...
qwertyaas said:
That doesn't help those of us with completely bricked phones...
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Contact Samsung 1800 726 7864. That's the number I was given by AT&T to call. Or, take your phone to an AT&T store. You did nothing to brick your device. This is their issue.
We have the choice to not do the update, right? I think I read that from another thread somewhere, but I just wanted to double check. I haven't received a notification from AT&T yet about the update, but when I do, I don't think I want to go through with it seeing how there are a lot of issues with the update.
"AT&T does not provide technical support for the Samsung Captivate update and makes no warranties, express, implied or statutory, as to the content within this solution; such content is provided "as is" and with all faults, and your use of the content is at your own risk. "
this is a mess
Oh mannnn...after reading your painful story with AT&T & Samsung...all I want to say to those people is "F*** YOU!!".
WTH have you guys been doing for 2 months???
You have spent 2 months to come up with the phone bricker not the problem fixer???
I really want to switch to Android world but it seems starting with Samsung is one hell bad idea of mine. Maybe I should wait for the phones from other makers.
well... at least they're aware that there is an issue
Well.. if you think about it, as soon as we rooted our units.. there goes AT&T's responsibility.
That's the thing I noticed the most about AT&T, they are pros are shifting to blame to anyone but themselves.
If you're under the 30 day return policy return it ASAP, No hesitation, talk to a manager if necessary.
For those over 30 days hope for the best, make AT&T and Samsung aware of your issue.
I just got off the phone with AT&T they are sending me a new phone. Spent about 45 minutes on the phone doing through all of test they do to try and get the update. The tech I talked to is actually overnighting me a new phone. I had to agree to the terms that there is no physical damage or liquid damage. There is none.
I claimed my GPS failes to aquire a viable signal. Network tower triangulation is not acceptable. I waited passed the 30 days for this update that was promised and I can no longer get.
I have used ODIN in the past and believe something with it is causing the problem. Before I ever used odin I had a backup made of my entire phone with just a root.
Tried to use ODIN and restore my previous ROM with no luck still failing at 50%. I have removed all traces of lagfix, root, roms and still can not get the update to take. I even swapped out the SIM card at the store. All of it failed so the tech had them rush me a new phone.
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I just got off the phone with AT&T they are sending me a new phone. Spent about 45 minutes on the phone doing through all of test they do to try and get the update. The tech I talked to is actually overnighting me a new phone. I had to agree to the terms that there is no physical damage or liquid damage. There is none.
I claimed my GPS failes to aquire a viable signal. Network tower triangulation is not acceptable. I waited passed the 30 days for this update that was promised and I can no longer get.
I have used ODIN in the past and believe something with it is causing the problem. Before I ever used odin I had a backup made of my entire phone with just a root.
Tried to use ODIN and restore my previous ROM with no luck still failing at 50%. I have removed all traces of lagfix, root, roms and still can not get the update to take. I even swapped out the SIM card at the store. All of it failed so the tech had them rush me a new phone.
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Wow, so anyone getting this phone should really just wait for the phones that are pre-installed with this update already.
Sounds like Ill have to wait a few months then.
Thanks for the info.
fiendiish said:
Contact Samsung 1800 726 7864. That's the number I was given by AT&T to call. Or, take your phone to an AT&T store. You did nothing to brick your device. This is their issue.
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I was within my 30 days so they gave me a new Captivate. Sadly, I haven't had a chance to back up my old phone so everything is gone from there.
For some reason, the AT&T employee said this uses my only 'exchange' in terms of warranty. I didn't even bother to argue as that makes no sense - how is replacing a bricked phone (that was bricked on an AT&T update) 'exchanging' the phone [as in being able to exchange to a different phone].
orlandoxpolice said:
"AT&T does not provide technical support for the Samsung Captivate update and makes no warranties, express, implied or statutory, as to the content within this solution; such content is provided "as is" and with all faults, and your use of the content is at your own risk. "
this is a mess
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I would think that one could argue successfully to get a new phone regardless, because this update is being pushed to the phone and not voluntarily download (by some), I woke up to a message that the device had fail to connect to the server (thank god) for the update. but if they're updating your phone without your approval then they (whomever is pushing the update) can't absolve themselves of responsibility. unless my not reading the EULA leads to it saying something like, we can do what we want when we want and you can suck it!
fiendiish said:
Here's what I found out. If you DO NOT HAVE GPS, EMAIL OR MMS PROBLEMS...THEN THE UPDATE MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE. THIS IS ATT AND SAMSUNGS RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY ARE GOING TO FIX IT.
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Not sure if that's true. I have GPS issues (Even outside on a clear night it took more than five minutes for me to get a lock). My phone is bricked.
A new one is on the way. Should be here tomorrow.
Hey folks,
Does anyone know for certain (not speculation) how Verizon treats phones that have been rooted when you go to trade them in on the Edge program? Will a phone that's been rooted in the past be denied for Edge trade-in?
Thanks
So I called Verizon. They said that I would need to remove root in order to trade it in or "Edge-Up". I've read recently though that even if you unroot your phone, carriers can now detect the fact that at one point time it was rooted. Is this true?
MSmithXDA said:
So I called Verizon. They said that I would need to remove root in order to trade it in or "Edge-Up". I've read recently though that even if you unroot your phone, carriers can now detect the fact that at one point time it was rooted. Is this true?
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most phones can be returned to stock without a trace of root as long as the stock files are available.
check your phones specific forum for return to stock guides and methods to remove root indicators if that applies.
calling verizon and asking about root really was not wise. they usually make notes on your account when you call for future reference.
you may not have an issue later from calling them, but you defiantly stirred the hornets nest, so it is possible you will.
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MSmithXDA said:
Hey folks,
Does anyone know for certain (not speculation) how Verizon treats phones that have been rooted when you go to trade them in on the Edge program? Will a phone that's been rooted in the past be denied for Edge trade-in?
Thanks
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btw,
it doesnt matter what plan you are on, they dont allow rooting period.
as far as they are concerned, "when they find out it is rooted", your warranty is void, returns are not accepted, and trade ups are denied.
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calling verizon and asking about root really was not wise. they usually make notes on your account when you call for future reference.
you may not have an issue later from calling them, but you defiantly stirred the hornets nest, so it is possible you will.
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Well I didn't tell them it was me :silly: I pretended to be a new customer interested in service and just had these hypothetical questions. But they didn't have my account # or anything to trace it back to me. Thanks for the info though!
MSmithXDA said:
Well I didn't tell them it was me :silly: I pretended to be a new customer interested in service and just had these hypothetical questions. But they didn't have my account # or anything to trace it back to me. Thanks for the info though!
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I hope you didn't call them from the phone that's on your account.
I really wouldn't worry about returning a phone that is/was rooted, unless perhaps it was a Samsung with Knox tripped and/or a yellow triangle. It's simply not cost effective for them to check every phone. The reps at the store aren't trained for that sort of thing, and when it goes back to wherever they get refurbished, it's only the hardware that gets tested, and they flash a new factory image. They have to flash a new image, because even after a factory reset, sensitive data can still exist in the memory on the phone (data isn't actually deleted when you delete it, until it gets overwritten, formatted, or you use a special app that does that sort of thing). Certain things can remain the same after doing a factory reset as well. I did a factory reset on a Nexus 4 rooted with Towelroot, and root remained.
Case in point: When I was with Verizon, I rooted my Razr Maxx. I was new to this whole "root" thing (I did it to bypass their hotspot crap). I was having a problem with the Play Store; it wouldn't let me purchase/download ROM Toolbox Pro, regardless of if I did it on my phone or off the website. So I got clever and deleted it (with a warezed Titanium - I'm not proud, I paid for the legit version later) and reinstalled it. And every time I tried, the Play Store would FC instantly.
So I did a factory reset, and WTF? The Play Store was GONE. Some bloatware was back, like the Madden NFL demo and some stupid cartoony golf game, but the Play Store was GONE. Not so clever, I guess. So I bit the bullet and took it to a Verizon store, told them I did a factory reset and Play Store was gone (I left out the other stuff). They googled it for like half an hour before giving up and ordering me a warranty replacement.
At one point, a rep did ask me if I hacked it - I played dumb (how do you hack a phone?). If they were trained or experienced in the sort of things we do, they would have known that the only way this could have happened was if the phone was rooted and I did something. And, if I wasn't such a n00b, I would have known to change Play Store to a system app and it probably would have worked fine (this occurred to me the day after). I got the replacement, and never heard anything about the old phone. I didn't feel too bad about "screwing" them in to giving me a new (refurb) phone, because when I got the replacement, I saw that the screen on the old one was dim, yellow, and sickly compared to the newer one, so apparently there was something actually wrong with it. Months later, the battery on the replacement expanded to the point that it popped the screen loose. The battery expanded on it's replacement too. But that's beside the point.
The point is, when you return a phone, it gets tossed into a pile, and that pile gets sent back to whatever it is they do with them. The sales reps aren't trained for that sort of thing - if you have a problem they don't know off the top of their head, they just google it on the iPads they carry around, and if they come across a site like XDA, they probably ignore it because the lingo and jargon here is gibberish to them (hell, most of it's still gibberish to me, and I've been learning all I can for 2 years). So it gets tossed in to a pile and sent wherever, and wherever it's sent gets hundreds of piles a day, and it's simply not cost effective to check every device. The parts get refurbed, the factory images get flashed (to eliminate any residual sensitive data and ensure the version is up to date), and that's that.
So I really, really, wouldn't worry about it. Unless it's a Samsung and you tripped Knox, have a yellow triangle, or it reads as "custom" or whatever. If you unlocked the bootloader, relock it. Beyond that, don't worry about it. I'm not saying it's impossible that something might happen and they "find out", but it's extremely unlikely. And unlikely to have repercussions. Remember, they want your money. Above all, they want your money. Are they going to keep getting your money if they piss you off by not honoring a phone exchange plan that you're already paying more for? Are they going to keep getting your money if you're dissatisfied and choose to switch providers? Unlikely. A new phone to them is a couple hundred bucks. One more year of service is a grand. Don't worry about it.
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I hope you didn't call them from the phone that's on your account.
I really wouldn't worry about returning a phone that is/was rooted, unless perhaps it was a Samsung with Knox tripped and/or a yellow triangle. It's simply not cost effective for them to check every phone. The reps at the store aren't trained for that sort of thing, and when it goes back to wherever they get refurbished, it's only the hardware that gets tested, and they flash a new factory image. They have to flash a new image, because even after a factory reset, sensitive data can still exist in the memory on the phone (data isn't actually deleted when you delete it, until it gets overwritten, formatted, or you use a special app that does that sort of thing). Certain things can remain the same after doing a factory reset as well. I did a factory reset on a Nexus 4 rooted with Towelroot, and root remained.
Case in point: When I was with Verizon, I rooted my Razr Maxx. I was new to this whole "root" thing (I did it to bypass their hotspot crap). I was having a problem with the Play Store; it wouldn't let me purchase/download ROM Toolbox Pro, regardless of if I did it on my phone or off the website. So I got clever and deleted it (with a warezed Titanium - I'm not proud, I paid for the legit version later) and reinstalled it. And every time I tried, the Play Store would FC instantly.
So I did a factory reset, and WTF? The Play Store was GONE. Some bloatware was back, like the Madden NFL demo and some stupid cartoony golf game, but the Play Store was GONE. Not so clever, I guess. So I bit the bullet and took it to a Verizon store, told them I did a factory reset and Play Store was gone (I left out the other stuff). They googled it for like half an hour before giving up and ordering me a warranty replacement.
At one point, a rep did ask me if I hacked it - I played dumb (how do you hack a phone?). If they were trained or experienced in the sort of things we do, they would have known that the only way this could have happened was if the phone was rooted and I did something. And, if I wasn't such a n00b, I would have known to change Play Store to a system app and it probably would have worked fine (this occurred to me the day after). I got the replacement, and never heard anything about the old phone. I didn't feel too bad about "screwing" them in to giving me a new (refurb) phone, because when I got the replacement, I saw that the screen on the old one was dim, yellow, and sickly compared to the newer one, so apparently there was something actually wrong with it. Months later, the battery on the replacement expanded to the point that it popped the screen loose. The battery expanded on it's replacement too. But that's beside the point.
The point is, when you return a phone, it gets tossed into a pile, and that pile gets sent back to whatever it is they do with them. The sales reps aren't trained for that sort of thing - if you have a problem they don't know off the top of their head, they just google it on the iPads they carry around, and if they come across a site like XDA, they probably ignore it because the lingo and jargon here is gibberish to them (hell, most of it's still gibberish to me, and I've been learning all I can for 2 years). So it gets tossed in to a pile and sent wherever, and wherever it's sent gets hundreds of piles a day, and it's simply not cost effective to check every device. The parts get refurbed, the factory images get flashed (to eliminate any residual sensitive data and ensure the version is up to date), and that's that.
So I really, really, wouldn't worry about it. Unless it's a Samsung and you tripped Knox, have a yellow triangle, or it reads as "custom" or whatever. If you unlocked the bootloader, relock it. Beyond that, don't worry about it. I'm not saying it's impossible that something might happen and they "find out", but it's extremely unlikely. And unlikely to have repercussions. Remember, they want your money. Above all, they want your money. Are they going to keep getting your money if they piss you off by not honoring a phone exchange plan that you're already paying more for? Are they going to keep getting your money if you're dissatisfied and choose to switch providers? Unlikely. A new phone to them is a couple hundred bucks. One more year of service is a grand. Don't worry about it.
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the reason root remained after you did a factory reset is, factory reset does nothing more than wipe the data partition. root code is not inserted there, so it will remain in tact with the exception of the su app unless it is installed in system/apps..
the fact that you had bloatware return after a reset is odd, i have never heard this happen before. resetting does not modify, restore, or change the system partition in any way.
as for them finding the root, i agree it is unlikely, but it can and has happened. also, it doesn't have to happen right away. there have been several reports of charges for replacement phones applied to your bill, from modifications found after the return.
as for them caring if you leave for another carrier, they don't, plain and simple. this has been shown countless times over the years. many people leave them every day, and they don't do the slightest thing to try and stop them.
i seriously doubt they will let you strong arm them by threatening to leave after they find out you returned a modified phone.
Hello everyone.
Due to some circumstances I lost my oneplus one.
It was snatched from me by two guys
I was already using some other phone and kept Oneplus One as reserve.
My question is what are the chances to extract data from that phone.
TWRP was already there
(1) Dalvik cache, System, Cache Data and Internal Storage was wiped through twrp
http://www.technobuzz.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/TWRP-Wipe-Cache-and-Data-System.jpg
(2) Data was formatted
http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/TWRP-Recovery-Format-Data.jpg
(3) Fresh rom was installed using USB-OTG
(4) Complete internal storage was filled with dummy data and deleted it
(5) Then I was using that phone for emails and gaming purpose only.
Phone was not encrypted
Do data which were stored in that mobile before wiping and fresh installation of rom can be recovered by those culprits?
Hello Experts,
Please provide your valuable views
As you know with TWRP you can bypass and access files. However if you only used it for email and gaming purposes last. I don't think you have much to worry about.
It really sucks that there's such low people out there. I wish all phones came with the 'kill switch' feature by default.
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As you know with TWRP you can bypass and access files. However if you only used it for email and gaming purposes last. I don't think you have much to worry about.
It really sucks that there's such low people out there. I wish all phones came with the 'kill switch' feature by default.
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Hi forid200
Thanks for reply.
Before I was using it as my primary phone.
As I already have one more cellphone, I'd kept Oneplus One as spare.
Before keeping it ,below procedure has been done :-
TWRP was already there
(1) Dalvik cache, System, Cache Data and Internal Storage was wiped through twrp
http://www.technobuzz.net/wp-content...ata-System.jpg
(2) Data was formatted
http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-co...ormat-Data.jpg
(3) Fresh rom was installed using USB-OTG
(4) Complete internal storage was filled with dummy data and deleted it
In such case is there still chances for old data to be stolen?
hoppingpanda said:
Hi forid200
Thanks for reply.
Before I was using it as my primary phone.
As I already have one more cellphone, I'd kept Oneplus One as spare.
Before keeping it ,below procedure has been done :-
TWRP was already there
(1) Dalvik cache, System, Cache Data and Internal Storage was wiped through twrp
http://www.technobuzz.net/wp-content...ata-System.jpg
(2) Data was formatted
http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-co...ormat-Data.jpg
(3) Fresh rom was installed using USB-OTG
(4) Complete internal storage was filled with dummy data and deleted it
In such case is there still chances for old data to be stolen?
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I'm seriously not seeing what you're worrying about, you barely had any data on that phone and when people steal a phone they want to sell it 99% of the time not get your personal data. Unless you're a very influential/famous person in your country whose data is extremely important hence more valuable than the phone itself, which I highly doubt you are. Whether there's a chance or not is irrelevant at this point, the phone is gone what happens to it is out of your control. Get a new phone and enjoy your life
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I'm seriously not seeing what you're worrying about, you barely had any data on that phone and when people steal a phone they want to sell it 99% of the time not get your personal data. Unless you're a very influential/famous person in your country whose data is extremely important hence more valuable than the phone itself, which I highly doubt you are. Whether there's a chance or not is irrelevant at this point, the phone is gone what happens to it is out of your control. Get a new phone and enjoy your life
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That's very bluntly said, however, it is true. The phone is gone, the thieves are probably more interested in selling it rather than looking through your porn collection. There's a few things you can try and do, you can try wiping it through Android device manager. Truthfully, if the sims out and the phone has no data connection. It will fail.
You can report it to the carrier/police and get the devices IMEI blocked. If you kept your OnePlus box like I have, you will see a small sticker with the devices IMEI written on it. This will render it useless as a mobile.
I know how annoyed you must feel, losing your device, data. And I understand that after you have a phone for a while, it starts to have slight 'sentimental' value to you, you could say. Thieves attempted to rob me a few times (here in London), I nearly got sprayed with corrosive acid, I nearly got stabbed, I put up a good fight and they couldn't get anything from me. But it did get me to think, how much is a device worth to you man? Is it worth more than your life?
These people robbing, they have no heart, no soul, they don't give a ****. I think cellphone manufacturers should all become more responsible and start building in kill switches.
My best advice to you is the above, these thieves will be out there. And it can happen, the OnePlus One is pretty old now. So I guess it should hurt less, get yourself a OnePlus 3, or as you said, it was your spare device. So just use whatever you have.
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That's very bluntly said, however, it is true. The phone is gone, the thieves are probably more interested in selling it rather than looking through your porn collection. There's a few things you can try and do, you can try wiping it through Android device manager. Truthfully, if the sims out and the phone has no data connection. It will fail.
You can report it to the carrier/police and get the devices IMEI blocked. If you kept your OnePlus box like I have, you will see a small sticker with the devices IMEI written on it. This will render it useless as a mobile.
I know how annoyed you must feel, losing your device, data. And I understand that after you have a phone for a while, it starts to have slight 'sentimental' value to you, you could say. Thieves attempted to rob me a few times (here in London), I nearly got sprayed with corrosive acid, I nearly got stabbed, I put up a good fight and they couldn't get anything from me. But it did get me to think, how much is a device worth to you man? Is it worth more than your life?
These people robbing, they have no heart, no soul, they don't give a ****. I think cellphone manufacturers should all become more responsible and start building in kill switches.
My best advice to you is the above, these thieves will be out there. And it can happen, the OnePlus One is pretty old now. So I guess it should hurt less, get yourself a OnePlus 3, or as you said, it was your spare device. So just use whatever you have.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for nice reply which really made my day.
I was only afraid for my old personal scanned documents and family photographs.
Any how, your words have provided me potency and ray of light that let bygones be bygones
I'll try to search that box and request for IMEI block.
Thanks you so much
hoppingpanda said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for nice reply which really made my day.
I was only afraid for my old personal scanned documents and family photographs.
Any how, your words have provided me potency and ray of light that let bygones be bygones
I'll try to search that box and request for IMEI block.
Thanks you so much
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Glad to have helped you out! Sorry for the late reply. If you need anything feel free to PM, or just join my WhatsApp group for faster reps from other OnePlus power users.
Hi guys. I have recently updated my pixel 3 to android 10 and wow tons of bugs.
Now my notification is not showing. My home button is not working in any gesture mode, same as my multi task button. The only thing working is the back button. Not to mention the update failed 2 times earlier (stuck on google logo.)
I am planning to sue google for selling goods with manufacture defects. The same thing other people did with pixel 1 years ago. Any one wants to join. I have a membership with a lawsuit service so want to try to use it for at least once this year.
haotingliu1990 said:
Hi guys. I have recently updated my pixel 3 to android 10 and wow tons of bugs.
Now my notification is not showing. My home button is not working in any gesture mode, same as my multi task button. The only thing working is the back button. Not to mention the update failed 2 times earlier (stuck on google logo.)
I am planning to sue google for selling goods with manufacture defects. The same thing other people did with pixel 1 years ago. Any one wants to join. I have a membership with a lawsuit service so want to try to use it for at least once this year.
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My Pixel 3 is running beautifully. No issues what so ever. Have you performed a full reset and installed the factory image? Booted in safe mode to see if one of your apps is causing the issue? Love how there are so many people on the Sue wagon. No wonder the courts are so full of crap.
Having a membership in a lawsuit service says a lot about you. I have had my Pixel 3 since launch and it has worked flawlessly since the day I purchased it.
I would suggest a factory reset and then install the factory image then add one app at a time untill you find the offenders.
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
haotingliu1990 said:
Hi guys. I have recently updated my pixel 3 to android 10 and wow tons of bugs.
Now my notification is not showing. My home button is not working in any gesture mode, same as my multi task button. The only thing working is the back button. Not to mention the update failed 2 times earlier (stuck on google logo.)
I am planning to sue google for selling goods with manufacture defects. The same thing other people did with pixel 1 years ago. Any one wants to join. I have a membership with a lawsuit service so want to try to use it for at least once this year.
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Sounds like you were too impatient with the first two attempts at upgrading. It can take quite a long time sometimes for the phone to completely update itself and optimize the apps. The more apps you have, the longer it will take. Stopping this update process will cause all kinds of issues with your phone - the type of issues that you describe now.
Best bet would be to do a full wipe and installation of Android 10. This means losing all of your data, but it will fix your issues.
The root of your problem is not a hardware issue - it's user error.
A lawsuit service?
Lmao, no.
wcaudle said:
My Pixel 3 is running beautifully. No issues what so ever. Have you performed a full reset and installed the factory image? Booted in safe mode to see if one of your apps is causing the issue? Love how there are so many people on the Sue wagon. No wonder the courts are so full of crap.
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The service is provided as a benefit of my employer.
sic0048 said:
Sounds like you were too impatient with the first two attempts at upgrading. It can take quite a long time sometimes for the phone to completely update itself and optimize the apps. The more apps you have, the longer it will take. Stopping this update process will cause all kinds of issues with your phone - the type of issues that you describe now.
Best bet would be to do a full wipe and installation of Android 10. This means losing all of your data, but it will fix your issues.
The root of your problem is not a hardware issue - it's user error.
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I suppose 20 hours wait each time will be enough
I don't know what is happening here on this thread. When a phone manufacturer crushes your phone with an update and tells you that they don't have a good backup method and the only way to save your phone is to factory reset it and lost most of your data. Then the people here just say, then do it.
This phone sells 880 tax included not 699 as oneplus 7 pro. (Besides, that phone is the one more like 880 worth)
I hope all these people will face problem one day and told by the customer service that a specialist will contact them who won't show up no matter how long they wait.
Ugh
haotingliu1990 said:
I hope all these people will face problem one day and told by the customer service that a specialist will contact them who won't show up no matter how long they wait.
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OMG, do you hope so???
haotingliu1990 said:
The service is provided as a benefit of my employer.
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Let me guess. That employer is Apple?
haotingliu1990 said:
Hi guys. I have recently updated my pixel 3 to android 10 and wow tons of bugs.
Now my notification is not showing. My home button is not working in any gesture mode, same as my multi task button. The only thing working is the back button. Not to mention the update failed 2 times earlier (stuck on google logo.)
I am planning to sue google for selling goods with manufacture defects. The same thing other people did with pixel 1 years ago. Any one wants to join. I have a membership with a lawsuit service so want to try to use it for at least once this year.
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You have a 'membership for a lawsuit service'? You sound like an absolute weapon.
Hi, haotingliu1990.
I, like the rest of the people who have posted, have not had the negative experience that you are having, nor do I want part in a lawsuit. Also like others, would recommend wiping your phone and starting fresh. You mentioned that there no backup solutions but there actually are quite a few...
1. Google's built in back up and sync. This will take care of apps that support it, sms, wifi networks, and maybe a few other things (wallpaper, settings, etc. I don't remember all).
2. An app like titanium backup. That will cover any app and it's data that you need it to.
3. An app like sms backup and restore to, obviously, backup and restore your sms.
4. Google photos will automatically sync your pictures to the web so they don't get lost.
5. Some apps have a built in backup feature so you can export the settings to your storage.
6. Plug your phone into your computer and back up anything from your internal storage.
You can use a combo of those options and keep everything you need. As a note, multiple of those are provided directly by Google, so I doubt arguing that Google provides no backup support will get you very far.
Once you've backed up what you need, it's easy to start clean. You can either use the stock recovery to preform a factory reset, or, if your bootloader is unlocked, use the factory images (that Google provides).
As the rest of the people commenting don't seem to be experiencing what you are, it's a safe assumption that starting fresh would take care of your issues. Let me know if you'd like help. I have before and am willing to again, help someone one-on-one through the update/backup/install process to make sure it works for you.