Question Where are the battery troubles in the LTE models coming from - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

There seems to be some sort of consensus that the LTE versions of the watch have more battery trouble
Has anyone actually given it some thought as to why?
When LTE is off it should not make a difference, but it does seem to exist.
Is the emergency service always connected, is there a bug where the modem drains power even when it should be off?
Curious to hear what you think

user822 said:
There seems to be some sort of consensus that the LTE versions of the watch have more battery trouble
Has anyone actually given it some thought as to why?
When LTE is off it should not make a difference, but it does seem to exist.
Is the emergency service always connected, is there a bug where the modem drains power even when it should be off?
Curious to hear what you think
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I have discovered my mistake was thinking that I needed to have the LTE button in the quick menu lit up blue to work away from the watch, my battery life has improved since I discovered it doesn't need to be lit up blue as that is permanently "on", by having the button grey it's on "auto"

MilgeS said:
I have discovered my mistake was thinking that I needed to have the LTE button in the quick menu lit up blue to work away from the watch, my battery life has improved since I discovered it doesn't need to be lit up blue as that is permanently "on", by having the button grey it's on "auto"
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What is "LTE button in the quick menu"?
I only see Mobile Data. Afair there was mobile network button in the Tizen, but I do not see it in the GW4

XorZone said:
What is "LTE button in the quick menu"?
I only see Mobile Data. Afair there was mobile network button in the Tizen, but I do not see it in the GW4
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I think that's the same button I called LTE/mobile network, it's the up/down arrows design button, sorry for the wrong description!

I got mine the other day replacing my 1st gen galaxy watch. I set it up in the same way as my old watch and was amazed to see the battery drop 10% in one hour, since then I have made one change... I disabled the option for the screen to come on via gesture, settling for a tap if the screen... I took it off charge this morning at 5:30am and it is now 21:21BST... It has 58% remaining... a significant improvement over day 1

I have the same problem with LTE. Whenever I use "auto" for LTE settings, the watch would keep trying to find signal and that would drain the battery. Which is insane, especially because: 1) the phone is always nearby, bluetooth connected 2) i haven't set up any carrier yet!

I have the network connection on. For me, i have a good 2 days of battery life. Compared to my previous WearOS watches, it's excellent...
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Did some testing and disabled everything (HR, Stress, Exercise detection, notifications, LTE/Mobile data, Wifi, NFC) all that was left on was the BT connection and I was still getting about 8% per Hour drain (12 hr 30 min life). Disabled BT and enabled Wifi for connection and drain now at 3.6% /H. (Stats as per Battery and Charge Monitor for Wear OS). So it doesnt appear to be a drain from any of the health monitoring or notifications etc, but possibly from the OS, which hopefully Google/Samsung will resolve/improve with updates.

stickydonkey said:
Did some testing and disabled everything (HR, Stress, Exercise detection, notifications, LTE/Mobile data, Wifi, NFC) all that was left on was the BT connection and I was still getting about 8% per Hour drain (12 hr 30 min life). Disabled BT and enabled Wifi for connection and drain now at 3.6% /H. (Stats as per Battery and Charge Monitor for Wear OS). So it doesnt appear to be a drain from any of the health monitoring or notifications etc, but possibly from the OS, which hopefully Google/Samsung will resolve/improve with updates.
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There was a Health Services update yesterday and since then, my watch battery lasts WAY better. at 17hrs 33min i still have 64% left and i had re-enabled everything again as it should be. Continuous monitoring, sleep with SPO2, location, LTE, etc.

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[Fix] Battery Drainage Issue, Make battery last Longer.

Battery Drainage Fix :
There is a Dialer bug in the Chacha that drains the battery, you can see this if you go to : "settings >about phone >battery >battery use". You will see it shows dialer usage at 90%+ and this is the MAIN reason your battery drains so quickly. do the following to fix the issue.
Go to : settings >sound> Disable quiet ring on pickup, Disable pocket mode and Disable flip for speaker.
Then
Go to : settings>applications>development>enable usb debugging.
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Now recharge your battery to the full. Should see some change.
Additionally if you want to extend your battery even further :
I would HIGHLY recommend you install these 3 widgets, they are all small and take very little space on your phones desktop, and you can toggle each of them on/off with a single click :
Wifi - On/off
Brightness Widget
Autosync-On/off
Hope this helps all the poor souls out there with battery issues. I use my phone quite often and my battery currently as it stands now :
On time since last Full Charge : 11H 56Mins 45s
Battery Level Percentage : 44%
And Im using nothing fancy, its a Stock Rom/Stock Battery with the above settings and widgets, and i mostly browse the net with opera mini, use whatsapp, google talk, check gmail, sms, O and I play some angry birds.
Hey you are right about the Dialer being a big part of the battery drain! Thanks!
Thanks! I always wondered why it was always saying "dialer" drained 90% of my battery. I always thought HTC had it twisted with Display. I have my phone flashed with CM7 right now and the battery so far has been great! about 12 hours and 70% capacity still. Normal use (4 email accounts, whatsapp, ebay, amazon, etc. no angry birds yet. lol
I will definitely let my gf know since she kept hers stock.
Thanks again!
Hi, i have this problem, dialer usage is 90%+. So i "disable quiet ring on pickup, disable pocket mode and disable flip for speaker" and "enable usb debugging", and after full charge, i don't see "dialer usage" voice in "settings >about phone >battery >battery use". but after incoming call the voice "dialer usage" come back with 93% usage! :-((( what's the problem?
Me too, but battery work fine with all options checked.
Note, on this few days usage phone is very low....(10 calls below 2 min, 30-40sms.......)
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Ok, thanks, i'll check this and report possibile problems
I am using CM now but when I had stock (European 1.54) I recall that besides disabling the sensors (which, by itself didn't work), if all calls (both calling and receiving) were done with loudspeakers the bug didn't kick in...
good luck!
Missed step
Also need to go to Settings > Applications > Manage Applications >Dialer > Clear data > Restart Phone
my chacha battery is so bad
it takes 2.30 hours from 100% to 15 % !!
where is the problem ? battery or Rom ??
and how to make sure from that ???
Juice defender
well, try Juice defender - battery saver , works perfectly with my phone, kept it running from 8 to 20 hours
saeidos said:
well, try Juice defender - battery saver , works perfectly with my phone, kept it running from 8 to 20 hours
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Don't those apps turn the phone's radio off while it's in standby though? I imagine that could cause issues for most people.
Yeah, the battery is too bad
Yeah, the chacha battery is too bad. Especially for 3G, I try to turn on Wifi all the time & the battery can take 40% longer, comparing to 3G network.
Turn off all sync services, auto screen rotation, uninstall all social network widgets & my battery can long for 36 hours.
nldquy said:
Yeah, the chacha battery is too bad. Especially for 3G, I try to turn on Wifi all the time & the battery can take 40% longer, comparing to 3G network.
Turn off all sync services, auto screen rotation, uninstall all social network widgets & my battery can long for 36 hours.
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Disabling "quiet ring on pickup", "pocket mode", and "flip for speaker" options in the sound menu also mildly helps. Just disabled sync services. Thanks!

Z3 D6603 - Battery life is not good

Hello,
So recently i've noticed the Battery performance on my Sony Xperia Z3 has become poor, I mainly use my device for socialising etc, I don't game alot. I'm currently Running Android 4.4 Kitkat (UK)
(I'm usually at home and connected to Wi-Fi)
See the results for yourself:
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Hussain_Salam said:
Hello,
So recently i've noticed the Battery performance on my Sony Xperia Z3 has become poor, I mainly use my device for socialising etc, I don't game alot. I'm currently Running Android 4.4 Kitkat (UK)
(I'm usually at home and connected to Wi-Fi)
See the results for yourself:
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Check if the device is constantly awake at the detailed battery information if you click on the graph.
If that's the case, search xda for "wakelock" and how to get rid of it.
An easier attempt is, to think if it's a certain app you installed recently or a change you made to your system.
Aronuser said:
Check if the device is constantly awake at the detailed battery information if you click on the graph.
If that's the case, search xda for "wakelock" and how to get rid of it.
An easier attempt is, to think if it's a certain app you installed recently or a change you made to your system.
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Thank you for your response,
I'll Go ahead and download a Wakelock Detector By someone who works here at XDA, and i'll see if it finds anything; But as of now my battery died again; So i left it dead for 15 minutes, and now i'm charging it back to 100% with no interruptions
Hussain_Salam said:
Thank you for your response,
I'll Go ahead and download a Wakelock Detector By someone who works here at XDA, and i'll see if it finds anything; But as of now my battery died again; So i left it dead for 15 minutes, and now i'm charging it back to 100% with no interruptions
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You could also install the ota update for lollipop and see if that automatically solves your issue. (new versions are being created to be better)
Another option is to flash the lollipop stock rom and try if that solves it. (but that's a bit more advance)
I suddenly got a similar issue - not as bad as yours but a drop in battery life. I turned off scanning even when wifi is off and turned on location based wifi and my battery life went back to normal. I'd just had a Google Play Services update and have had this issue with various play services updates in the past on other devices which is why that was one of the first solutions I tried.
Might be worth a shot if you haven't already tried it :good:
There's always Greenify.
Repair it or flash another ftf file.
Same thing here. Since I've had this when I purchased it new I've not had any good battery life. My old z2 had way better battery life and stamina mode works.
Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk 2
Was there any update to this matter, OP?
What brightness options are you using? (% and adaptive or not?)
Also, did you actually update it to Lollipop? Was there any problem with wakelock?
Best regards.
Network & Wake Lock
The last screenshot you posted clearly shows that the battery drain is because of your Mobile Network and a Wake Lock.
Network Signal:
As signal strength decreases, the device requires additional power resulting in battery drain.
The cost of 1 hour’s worth of calls is 150mA, assuming a strong signal
So, on a 2000mA battery, it takes 8% of total capacity (8% =150 / 2000)
This means the same 1 hour of calls could cost as much as 23% of battery life (23% = 450 / 2000)
Wake Lock:
WakeLocks are a Power Manager system Service feature, available to your applications to control the power state of the host device.
Wake Locks can be used to keep the CPU running, prevent the screen from dimming, prevent the screen from turning off, and prevent the keyboard backlight from turning off.

[Xperia Z3 D6603][5.0.2] battery life issues

Xperia Z3 D6603, stock ROM, non rooted, locked bootloader, Android 5.0.2, build 23.1.A.0.690.
Hello all, I have a huge problem with my Z3. I mean, battery life issues.
As you can see on the 2 pics, my device is running out of battery too quickly, and it heat up even for simple tasks!
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That's not normal.. it sucks. Will switch to LG G4 as soon as available.
how much of that was screen time using the battery?
About 3 or 4 hours max.. but I use it time to time. Wi-Fi and sometimes mobile data on cellular network.
Don't understand why the battery drain is so fast.
Stamina mode doesn't change a thing. Almost always on manual low brightness and I have to use my power bank (external battery) when I'm away.
bel57 said:
About 3 or 4 hours max.. but I use it time to time. Wi-Fi and sometimes mobile data on cellular network.
Don't understand why the battery drain is so fast.
Stamina mode doesn't change a thing. Almost always on manual low brightness and I have to use my power bank (external battery) when I'm away.
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I have the exact same issues, the phone was going very strong for the first 6 months (7-8 hrs SoT) and then it all went bad (3-4 hrs Max). I've tried MANY things and the issue seems to be **mainly** with Android OS and System (especially with mobile networks "staying active").
What kind of worked for me is:
Turn off "double tap to wake screen"
Delete any 3rd party alarm apps (clearly helped)
Turn off "Google Location History" in Google settings
Check for stuck sync
After doing all of this i got about +2hrs screen on time, but it all went bad again (even with them still off)... So I'm interested in your feedback and others' answers!
I'll try that. I assume Timely is a 3r party alarm apps?
Check out this pic.. battery discharging during the night and lost more than 20% by using it one hour (simple web browsing and stuff). I'm starting to hate this phone.
By the way, congrats for your 1st post
bel57 said:
I'll try that. I assume Timely is a 3r party alarm apps?
Check out this pic.. battery discharging during the night and lost more than 20% by using it one hour (simple web browsing and stuff). I'm starting to hate this phone.
By the way, congrats for your 1st post
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Thanks!
Yes I think we have the exact same problem, my phone discharges about 2-3% on airplane mode through the night. And as you said, my normal use means that I lose 10% to every 30 minutes of screen (under normal conditions).
Yes I mean Timely! it drained the battery on my phone and only showed up as a problem on Gsam and wakelock detector! i wouldn't have known otherwise, its disguised as Android OS or System!
Its very disappointing given that it was working very well before!
Stuck with the same problem.. and they boast about Xperia Z3 amazing battery life.. that device sucks. Switching to LG G4 as soon as available. Sony disappointed me, they failed me.
I use Timely to wake up because this app is well designed and I love the smart rise feature.
That said, Android says OS and screen process drains battery the most.
bel57 said:
Stuck with the same problem.. and they boast about Xperia Z3 amazing battery life.. that device sucks. Switching to LG G4 as soon as available. Sony disappointed me, they failed me.
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I think you should first try what I suggested for a day or two and see the results, should be an improvement, though I don't know how much...
I used timely for exactly the same thing, but as all google products these days, it drains the battery I'm really dissapointed with Google more than Sony, I have the same problems on all my lollipop devices (2 nexuses). Nothing Sony can do about it...
With flastool you can go back to KitKat if Lollipop doesn't perform good for you.
I have good experience with the .77 Version and still have a backup of it in twrp.
You have a very weak signal (the red color) which is draining battery.
Android OS is the Kernel.
Use better battery stats which is free here from xda.
Also check app permissions of your installed apps.
And a calibration of the battery may help.
With full auto brightness and mixed 3G/wifi browsing and listening to music via Bluetooth or headset I have 6h Display on in 2 or 3days on Lollipop.
But prerooted / debloated / tweaked Rom .690 with good signal.
I know the signal is bad and is a cause I'm my case. I was living in Germany for a few months and got around 7h over 2 days, it halved when I moved back to jordan. However it's still getting worse, noticeably since I turned off and uninstalled many things (it got better for 2 days *6hr and then went back to bad *3-4hr). But still the point is why buy a smartphone if you have to turn off everything just to get it through the day. The problem is that you get the feeling that no matter what you do with the phone it still drains (which looks like a system or app issue because it does even when I'm only using Wi-Fi or even 3/4g on full signal)...
Well there is no magic button to improve the battery life.
Yes there is, Airplane Mode.

Cell Standby Battery Drain?

Cell standby is continuously one of my top two battery drain items. I did a search and found a recommendation of booting into recovery, wiping cache, rebooting, and ensuring that advanced calling was turned on. I went through those steps and while it may have helped a little, it still seems to be using much more battery than it should be. Anyone else battling this on a Verizon version? If so, any other items I can try to fix the problem? Thanks in advance!
I have this on my s6, but not on the note 5.
Sent from my SM-N920V using XDA Forums Pro.
I just can't seem to find what is causing it.
I get it too but it doesn't seem to drain my battery much. I'm still getting 6 hours of SOT. I haven't used my phone all that much the last few days but I'm at four days without a charge and 29% left. I tried clearing cache three times but cell standby remains on top. It would be nice to get rid of but it's not killing me.
Misterxtc said:
I get it too but it doesn't seem to drain my battery much. I'm still getting 6 hours of SOT. I haven't used my phone all that much the last few days but I'm at four days without a charge and 29% left. I tried clearing cache three times but cell standby remains on top. It would be nice to get rid of but it's not killing me.
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I found this in the General Section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62555790&postcount=19
Maybe it could help.
darksidesh007 said:
I found this in the General Section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62555790&postcount=19
Maybe it could help.
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Thanks for the response. I do already have advanced calling turned on. This may vary from carrier to carrier. I am on Verizon.
I have this issue when I have WiFi on, with WiFi off just have no issue
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If you are like me then Cellular is still going even when on WIFI. If you notice, the 3g/4g icon is activated and WHITE when using data. Otherwise it is grey. From what I understand when on WIFI this should always be grey. I should also mention I do not have Advanced calling turned on.
Keep in mind results vary depending on where you use the phone. Do you have a weak cell signal? When the signal is weaker, the phone compensates by using more power to boost it as much as possible. I haven't noticed the problem but I'm usually full or one bar from full signal at my home.
Mine drains more than 2% during standby, which is definitely not normal
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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mine looked like that from day one, still getting cell standby drain
ztahoez said:
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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I did it, but still getting cell standby at the top
Enviado desde mi SM-N920V mediante Tapatalk
Battery drain will always vary my mileage, what firmware version are you on, what apps you have open , are you on LTE, 3G, wifi or no wifi and how many apps you have going, running in the backgroud. etc etc etc.
ztahoez said:
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
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my is exactly like that, cell standby is still crazy high
No idea why this worked but switching data from global to LTE /CDMA only seems to have fixed my cell standby draining while on WiFi.
I bought my Note 5 on VZW yesterday, after coming from the note 5 on AT&T. My issue seems to be unusual high Android OS draining my battery. Maybe new phones just need a day or two to settle? I'm about to clear cache for apps by rebooting into recovery. I have done the following:
-Disable VZW/Samsung Bloat (Package Disabler Pro)
-Disable S Finder (Package Disabler Pro)
-Turn off motion Gestures
-Turn off S voice
-Turn off or decrease vibrations
-Turn off Google Location History
-Turn off Android Device manager
-Disable Unnecessary Sync Service
-Turn off S pen Alerts, pen detection, and S pen sound and vibration (will still work exactly the same)
-Turn off 'Always allow scanning' under advanced wifi settings (Allows apps to serach for Wifi even when wifi is off)
I have seen location history posted as a possible battery drain when not using phone. Check to see it's status. Turn off and try.
jeffdanger said:
I have seen location history posted as a possible battery drain when not using phone. Check to see it's status. Turn off and try.
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This helped. Just because Location isn't used, does not mean Location History is disabled. Thanks!

Question Huge battery drain when sleep tracking after updating to R860XXU1CUJ2

Hey there. I am noticing a big battery drain on my GW 4 40MM Bluetooth when I am going to sleep, for example last night I've gone to sleep with 83% of battery left and in the middle of the night the watch died, the same thing the night before. Normally I would get about 20-25% loss with previous firmware
This problem started after I updated to R860XXU1CUJ2. The strange thing is that I am not noticing bad battery life when I wear the watch in the day (maybe a little more draining compared to previous firmware), also note that I am just using regular sleep tracking not O2 or snore detection even though I have used this options with the previous firmware and still I had battery when I woke up.
Does anyone else has big battery drains when sleep tracking and also is there an official site where I can make a ticket?
Thanks!
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Same here, happened to me twice already , can't track it back other than sleep mode
Stormingsoul said:
Same here, happened to me twice already , can't track it back other than sleep mode
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I also posted here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/qe1eyb
I turn off Bluetooth at night and I want to try if keeping it on does anything, because as you can see from my screenshot it uses Wifi and maybe this affects the battery life at night. Do you keep Bluetooth on or off?
Lefty_Kas said:
I also posted here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/qe1eyb
I turn off Bluetooth at night and I want to try if keeping it on does anything, because as you can see from my screenshot it uses Wifi and maybe this affects the battery life at night. Do you keep Bluetooth on or off?
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I would say you've got your answer. If you have enabled the option to continue receiving notifications via wifi or lte then turning off Bluetooth will inevitably use wifi all the time and result in high battery drain, most probably...
CUJ2 version as well, 28% battery drain during the night. I just left the watch on my table. No sleep tracking. No wifi. No app listed under battery usage. Nice!
Is there a way to get more details on battery consumption?
Lefty_Kas said:
Hey there. I am noticing a big battery drain on my GW 4 40MM Bluetooth when I am going to sleep, for example last night I've gone to sleep with 83% of battery left and in the middle of the night the watch died, the same thing the night before. Normally I would get about 20-25% loss with previous firmware
This problem started after I updated to R860XXU1CUJ2. The strange thing is that I am not noticing bad battery life when I wear the watch in the day (maybe a little more draining compared to previous firmware), also note that I am just using regular sleep tracking not O2 or snore detection even though I have used this options with the previous firmware and still I had battery when I woke up.
Does anyone else has big battery drains when sleep tracking and also is there an official site where I can make a ticket?
Thanks!
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Same problem here. In this update, I think the Watch WiFi is set on when I turn the phone WiFi or data off. It's not happening before this update.
Lefty_Kas said:
I turn off Bluetooth at night and I want to try if keeping it on does anything, because as you can see from my screenshot it uses Wifi and maybe this affects the battery life at night. Do you keep Bluetooth on or off?
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I agree with DaReDeViL. You have your answer. Why do you turn off BT and leave on wifi? Wifi uses significantly more power. I'm on newer DUJA but I saw no issues with CUJA which I ran for several weeks. I have sleep tracking on without O2 or snore detection. I don't have BT or wifi on when I sleep though. I have no desire to get notifications when I sleep, I want to sleep. I actually use bedtime mode when I sleep. I loose between 4 - 6 % of battery when I sleep (I average about 7 hours). This has remained fairly consistent with every update.

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