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Is a (ClockWorkMod) Backup any good after upgrading (to cyanogenmod)?

I'm about to do an upgrade from an stock ROM to Cyanogenmod on a phone I have a lot of apps and settings on.
I know the guides always say "back up before upgrading in case it fails, then upgrade, you'll lose all your previous data". And I know that's the normal way it goes.
I'm a noob to the android OS structure, but is it possible to manually take any parts of the pre-upgrade backup data and paste it in the new OS?
For example how you can copy a lot of programs and AppData (profiles, settings etc) from one installation/version of windows to another.
In my case it would take a lot of extra configuration work even after I use the play store to re-download all the apps. Not to mention some apps are from for ex fdroid or github. And then there's the xposed modules.
Cheers!

I guess I'll upgrade and then try to overwrite app data folders and see how that goes.
I know a lot of you here upgrade your ROMs like every week. Do you spend like 3 days customizing your phone back after each flash?
[EDIT] Found an answer. No thanks to you friendly community (why did someone rate my thread down without saying anything?).
- I found out that Titanium Backup can batch-store all your apps and app data - I wonder if it stores stuff like my Catapult Launcher screen layout and folders.
- Also if all you're doing is an OTA upgrade, you can do it without loosing root: http://www.howtogeek.com/192402/why-androids-ota-updates-remove-root-and-how-to-keep-it/
So flash the new ROM, Root, restore from Titanium (since CWM does a system(-based) image afaik).

How to debloat a stock ROM?

Hi guys, I'd like to debloat the latest 5.1 Lollipop Rom for my XT1032 but I don't know how, I tried to run it normally but it takes too much RAM and my phone has become too slow...
I'm running an older version now but it's no longer supported and I'm afraid of all the new threats, I don't want to switch to Marshmallow because I'm looking for something to "install and never touch it again" and that version is still too frequently updated.
Thanks for your time.

Hey I always use titanium backup to remove stock apps to clear space. Also check out minimal os it's a nice lite lollipop rom

d3adbroke said:
Hey I always use titanium backup to remove stock apps to clear space. Also check out minimal os it's a nice lite lollipop rom
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Is there a list of all the apps and processes that are safe to remove? Can I do it already in the zip rom with some commands? Thanks

There show be one if you Google it

UncleStevy said:
Is there a list of all the apps and processes that are safe to remove? Can I do it already in the zip rom with some commands? Thanks
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This is not exactly stock but Omni - I always use it as a guide on what to debloat my omnirom. You could still use this as a guide. Use System App Remover to remove the unwanted apps.
Credit the app-to-be-removed photo to @ice_ice in his thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/sam...mplete-optimization-guide-omni-rom-4-t3027575 )

the thread by lost101 on debloated stock ROMs did have a list of apps that could be safely removed without impacting any functionality, though i cant seem to find the list in that thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
the services that you can get rid of are found in the following post in the same thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63024406&postcount=2501

About custom ROM's

Hello everyone, so I'm new on flashing custom Roms on my device (bored of Miui doesn't get updates too often and no cam2api) and i have some questions I would like to get answered from the advanced xda'ers!
Right now i'm Havoc OS which feels really smooth and battery is great but sadly Dev announced the rom is dropped so no more updates.
1. Should it be a problem if i stay on Havoc OS and don't get any future updates anyway for a long time?
2. If I want to move to another ROM I should "Clean flash" it? (Wipe everything which is boring)
3. If i move to another ROM, I will have to clean flash every update which is ridiculously boring?
4. What is the best way to Backup your device and move Everything from a Custom Rom to another when you have to "Clean flash"
5. How safe is it to make Money transactions on a Custom Rom with Root access on it and how can i prepare myself safe on it?
Thanks in advance

stavrakas2007 said:
Hello everyone, so I'm new on flashing custom Roms on my device (bored of Miui doesn't get updates too often and no cam2api) and i have some questions I would like to get answered from the advanced xda'ers!
Right now i'm Havoc OS which feels really smooth and battery is great but sadly Dev announced the rom is dropped so no more updates.
1. Should it be a problem if i stay on Havoc OS and don't get any future updates anyway for a long time?
2. If I want to move to another ROM I should "Clean flash" it? (Wipe everything which is boring)
3. If i move to another ROM, I will have to clean flash every update which is ridiculously boring?
4. What is the best way to Backup your device and move Everything from a Custom Rom to another when you have to "Clean flash"
5. How safe is it to make Money transactions on a Custom Rom with Root access on it and how can i prepare myself safe on it?
Thanks in advance
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1) if you're comfortable with the ROM you'll be fine for 1-2 months. Honestly you'll just be behind on security updates (this might be an issue in relation to your last question)
2) you should clean flash between ROMs or you will have issues. Use an app like "migrate" from the play store to speed it up.
3) you only have to clean flash between custom ROMs. Updates to an existing ROM can be flashed over the old one. So very fast like an miui OTA update.
4) see migrate app in the play store. Should do what you want. Individual apps can be backed up with root and titanium backup. Use an SD card to move files around to keep them safe when wiping data
5) not as safe as MIUI and locked bootloader maybe... But I've personally not had issues using banking apps as normal with root. Just don't install apps you don't trust. If an app requests root when it shouldn't need it then run. Keeping the ROM up to date is important for this. Make sure the security patches are from the last 1-2 months (unless the ROM is listed as CAF where the updates will be intentionally behind but don't worry about that)

Dobsgw said:
1) if you're comfortable with the ROM you'll be fine for 1-2 months. Honestly you'll just be behind on security updates (this might be an issue in relation to your last question)
2) you should clean flash between ROMs or you will have issues. Use an app like "migrate" from the play store to speed it up.
3) you only have to clean flash between custom ROMs. Updates to an existing ROM can be flashed over the old one. So very fast like an miui OTA update.
4) see migrate app in the play store. Should do what you want. Individual apps can be backed up with root and titanium backup. Use an SD card to move files around to keep them safe when wiping data
5) not as safe as MIUI and locked bootloader maybe... But I've personally not had issues using banking apps as normal with root. Just don't install apps you don't trust. If an app requests root when it shouldn't need it then run. Keeping the ROM up to date is important for this. Make sure the security patches are from the last 1-2 months (unless the ROM is listed as CAF where the updates will be intentionally behind but don't worry about that)
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Thank you for your time
According to your answer no 5. that means it's unsafe to make transactions from Devices which get no updates anymore. I worry about that because my dad is making transactions from a Samsung Galaxy J5 2016. (security patch level 2017).

stavrakas2007 said:
Thank you for your time
According to your answer no 5. that means it's unsafe to make transactions from Devices which get no updates anymore. I worry about that because my dad is making transactions from a Samsung Galaxy J5 2016. (security patch level 2017).
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It's not as risky as it seems.
Honestly leave it to the banks to sort it out. They're very skittish about root and vulnerability so I'm sure if they considered outdated security patches to be an issue they would block the usage of the app on that device. The majority of being safe is being proactive. The user is the first line of defence against exploits so just don't install sketchy software.
There's definitely advantages to devices being up to date though and ideally we need Google to be enforcing security patches for devices for a set period of time. Some OEMs have been caught editing the build.prop to show a higher security patch level than is actually present. An area for improvement.
Overall there a pros and cons to being on stock ROM and using custom ROMs. With an unlocked bootloader you'd really want to have encrypted data and SeLinux enforcing and just don't let people have physical access to the phone.

I would Just buy a cheap iPad Mini for bank apps.

g070140 said:
I would Just buy a cheap iPad Mini for bank apps.
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90% of my purchases are auctions. Sometimes I'm at work chasing some last minute deals from eBay so I got no time to think about it. So I'm using my rn6pro mostly. Hope everything will go well. I will keep Havoc ROM until something similar comes up. I see there are a lot of bugs even at official roms out there.

Good evening everyone. I'm about to leave Havoc and Flash a more stable Rom. Most stable ROM right now? Maybe xiaomieu stable?

g070140 said:
I would Just buy a cheap iPad Mini for bank apps.
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But why I never have trouble with banking apps I'm using whyred but magisk gets around most apps including banking apps Snapchat etc.

minilandl said:
But why I never have trouble with banking apps I'm using whyred but magisk gets around most apps including banking apps Snapchat etc.
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Me too. No issues with banking apps. No issues with transactions.

Redmi K30 Pro newbie

Hi all. New to the forum and based in the UK. Recently got a Redmi K30 Pro 6GB. Currently it is running MIUI 11.0.16 Stable QJKCNXM. I got the from sent from Hong Kong so unsure if it has .EU or China rom. To be honest I just switched from iOS as I've been using that for 10+ years so I'm a little unsure of the whole Android side of things even though I am quite techy.
Basically, what I want to know is:
1. Am I on China Rom or EU Rom based on what I mentioned above.
2. Is it possible to run a stock Android 10 on the phone rather than using MIUI (or any other software you recommend?)
3. If I can't do number 2, then maybe updating to MIUI 12 might fix some of the things I dislike about MIUI 11 such as delayed notifications from many apps despite them not being restricted and having all permissions enabled. Is there a MIUI12 download available with guide?
I already have made a full local backup and have also backed up to the cloud.
First post, so couldn't post in another forum which seemed more in line with what I'm asking but hoping the mods will move it if they feel the need. Thanks!

sircretop said:
Hi all. New to the forum and based in the UK. Recently got a Redmi K30 Pro 6GB. Currently it is running MIUI 11.0.16 Stable QJKCNXM. I got the from sent from Hong Kong so unsure if it has .EU or China rom. To be honest I just switched from iOS as I've been using that for 10+ years so I'm a little unsure of the whole Android side of things even though I am quite techy.
Basically, what I want to know is:
1. Am I on China Rom or EU Rom based on what I mentioned above.
2. Is it possible to run a stock Android 10 on the phone rather than using MIUI (or any other software you recommend?)
3. If I can't do number 2, then maybe updating to MIUI 12 might fix some of the things I dislike about MIUI 11 such as delayed notifications from many apps despite them not being restricted and having all permissions enabled. Is there a MIUI12 download available with guide?
I already have made a full local backup and have also backed up to the cloud.
First post, so couldn't post in another forum which seemed more in line with what I'm asking but hoping the mods will move it if they feel the need. Thanks!
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1. It's CN ROM. If during the initial setup you can only choose between English and China, it's stock CN ROM.
2. For now, you can't as there is no stock AOSP (pure) Android custom ROM yet. But you can unlock the bootloader and install Xiaomi.EU modded version of the CN ROM (both MIUI 11 and 12), which has bloated CN apps removed and is customized to be a global ROM.
3. CN MIUI 12 Stable is already available. You can check for update from your phone (Settings \ MIUI version \ Check for updates). If there is still no update, it's probably still in closed testing and will be available later.
But upgrading OS only may not fix the problem you have with the notification.
For the apps with delayed notification in either MIUI 11 or 12, you should try to turn on their Autostart option and set their Battery saver mode as No restrictions in App Info page.

huyhung411991 said:
1. It's CN ROM. If during the initial setup you can only choose between English and China, it's stock CN ROM.
2. For now, you can't as there is no stock AOSP (pure) Android custom ROM yet. But you can unlock the bootloader and install Xiaomi.EU modded version of the CN ROM (both MIUI 11 and 12), which has bloated CN apps removed and is customized to be a global ROM.
3. CN MIUI 12 Stable is already available. You can check for update from your phone (Settings \ MIUI version \ Check for updates). If there is still no update, it's probably still in closed testing and will be available later.
But upgrading OS only may not fix the problem you have with the notification.
For the apps with delayed notification in either MIUI 11 or 12, you should try to turn on their Autostart option and set their Battery saver mode as No restrictions in App Info page.
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Thank you. Is there any beginner/newbie guide to getting the EU rom on my phone? Doing this, do I lose everything? I have a full local backup but will that backup actually reload the chinese bloatware back on?

sircretop said:
Thank you. Is there any beginner/newbie guide to getting the EU rom on my phone? Doing this, do I lose everything? I have a full local backup but will that backup actually reload the chinese bloatware back on?
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Yes, you will lose all data because you have to unlock the bootloader first. You can restore the backup and depending on what the backup contains, it might restore some bloatware.
Apply here for bootloader unlock
https://en.miui.com/unlock/
Then flash twrp recovery then miui eu, and restore whatever you need

XDRdaniel said:
Yes, you will lose all data because you have to unlock the bootloader first. You can restore the backup and depending on what the backup contains, it might restore some bloatware.
Apply here for bootloader unlock
Then flash twrp recovery then miui eu, and restore whatever you need
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Thanks. Looking at the backup folder there are plenty of the bloatware apps in there (all .bak files). If I put them all back on will I be able to delete them naturally within the phone (currently you cannot delete them from within the phone as they are blocked from being deleted). Another option is for me to remove those .bak files from the backup folder but wondering would that be an issue at all?
When you say flash TWRP....how is that done?
Thanks for all the replies so far. Really helpful!

sircretop said:
Thanks. Looking at the backup folder there are plenty of the bloatware apps in there (all .bak files). If I put them all back on will I be able to delete them naturally within the phone (currently you cannot delete them from within the phone as they are blocked from being deleted). Another option is for me to remove those .bak files from the backup folder but wondering would that be an issue at all?
When you say flash TWRP....how is that done?
Thanks for all the replies so far. Really helpful!
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Yes you will 100% be able to delete them afterwards, as they will be stored in data, not in the system partition which is read-only. So you can do a full restore, delete unwanted apps and then do a better backup file without bloatware.
Also check your pm

Update from 13.0.1 GLOBAL SJKMIXM to Xiaomi.EU CUSTOM WITHOUT APP and possible data loss via Google Cloud Backup?

Hello,
Since my English is not the best, I translated the text via Google, hope you understand what I mean .....
Well, I now have the 13.0.1.0 SJKMIXM on it, but I would like to upgrade to Xiaomi.Eu (i editet now, i would change to this Rom Xiaomi.Eu Custom Rom), a simple dirty update is supposedly not possible, since full wipe is supposed to be mandatory: /
Well, the Poco also makes backups of APPS, settings, chats, email addresses and phone book ect.. in the Googlemail Cloud, now the question is, if I now update to the EU version and do the required full wipe, then it also plays itself really all settings, APPS, chats, email addresses ect.. back to the version or is the backup also version-specific or has someone already done it and can confirm that it works like this?
I just don't want to have to do everything again by hand :/
THX for info or tips
Kind regards

Bitseeker said:
Hello,
Since my English is not the best, I translated the text via Google, hope you understand what I mean .....
Well, I now have the 13.0.1.0 SJKMIXM on it, but I would like to upgrade to the 13.0.2.0SJKEUMX (isn't it the EEA or the China Custom Version, right?), a simple dirty update is supposedly not possible, since full wipe is supposed to be mandatory: /
Well, the Poco also makes backups of APPS, settings, chats, email addresses and phone book ect.. in the Googlemail Cloud, now the question is, if I now update to the EU version and do the required full wipe, then it also plays itself really all settings, APPS, chats, email addresses ect.. back to the version or is the backup also version-specific or has someone already done it and can confirm that it works like this?
I just don't want to have to do everything again by hand :/
THX for info or tips
Kind regards
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13.0.1.0 SJKMIXM global version
13.0.2.0SJKEUMX EEA version
Changing version or downgrading requires an unlocked bootloader and this operation erases all your data.
Use Miphone assistant+Micloud+google or possibly a third-party app.
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(i editet now, i would change to this Rom Xiaomi.Eu Custom Rom)
Bootloader must be unlocked if it is,you can the use update script(only Miui 13 A12) in the zip of the rom.(backup before by security).