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[Q] 1st time root/rom question -hyperdrive rls15 GS3

Hello all:
This is my first foray into rooting/roming and I am liking it so far.
But now I have a few questions
here are my specs:
Verizon Galaxy S III
Hyperdrive RLS15
TWRP
Titanium backup
busyBox - not sure what this does
So, here are my questions
1)
This whole rom /modding thing is fun as s#!+.
I want to try other ROMs. Is there a way to install a different ROM without having to re-install all of my third party apps all over again?
2)
I like the Hyperdrive ROM but I would like to add and remove some of the features I installed when I loaded the ROM initially.
Is there a way to change my configuration without having to start from the beginning and having to re-install 3rd party apps?
3)
Apparently this ROM has a battery calibrator built in that I can run in terminal.
Can anyone tell me what it actually does
4)
What is BusyBox and why do I need it?
Thanks in advance for all your help and all the work this community does
biTToe

biTToe said:
Hello all:
This is my first foray into rooting/roming and I am liking it so far.
But now I have a few questions
here are my specs:
Verizon Galaxy S III
Hyperdrive RLS15
TWRP
Titanium backup
busyBox - not sure what this does
So, here are my questions
1)
This whole rom /modding thing is fun as s#!+.
I want to try other ROMs. Is there a way to install a different ROM without having to re-install all of my third party apps all over again?
2)
I like the Hyperdrive ROM but I would like to add and remove some of the features I installed when I loaded the ROM initially.
Is there a way to change my configuration without having to start from the beginning and having to re-install 3rd party apps?
3)
Apparently this ROM has a battery calibrator built in that I can run in terminal.
Can anyone tell me what it actually does
4)
What is BusyBox and why do I need it?
Thanks in advance for all your help and all the work this community does
biTToe
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1. Basically no, the fastest and easiest way to get your apps back is using titanium backup. It's even recommended to not even restore with tb if you switch from touchwiz and AOSP or vise versa.
2. Hyperdrive uses aroma and this is true for any rom running aroma, but to change your features you simply have to reflash the rom. Then while you're in aroma, simply deselect all the features you don't want anymore, but if you forget to mark something you already had it'll go away.
3. Can't help you with this one, try searching the development thread.
4. Busybox is basically a terminal (if you can call it that?) that runs with Linux. It basically gives your phone the ability to run a vast majority of basic commands that would otherwise have to be manually entered into a terminal. It's a stripped down version of a full Linux kit, so it's designed for more stripped down environments such as mobile and tablet devices.
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BadUsername said:
1. Basically no, the fastest and easiest way to get your apps back is using titanium backup. It's even recommended to not even restore with tb if you switch from touchwiz and AOSP or vise versa.
2. Hyperdrive uses aroma and this is true for any rom running aroma, but to change your features you simply have to reflash the rom. Then while you're in aroma, simply deselect all the features you don't want anymore, but if you forget to mark something you already had it'll go away.
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So, do you mean to say that I can back-up and restore only my apps when I either change roms or re-install the current rom?
But if I switch from a TW rom to an AOSP rom then restoring those apps via TB is NOT reccommended?
-- I mean I can back-up and restore all kinds of things, but I can b/u the apps by themselves?
And thanks so much for your reply

You can use alternatives to titanium backup for backing up your apps.

jmxc23 said:
You can use alternatives to titanium backup for backing up your apps.
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Is there a specific app that backs up apps?

biTToe said:
Is there a specific app that backs up apps?
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I think titanium is great for backing up apps, and yes, if I'm switching between touchwiz roms or the same rom I'll use titanium to restore user apps with data. But if I went to an AOSP rom I'd only restore the app itself mainly because of the different android versions, most apps such as games should run normally, but restoring data will sometimes cause issues with a rom. You'd have to do a lot of battery stats hunting to get rid of some of them. If you didn't restore data, your system would be pretty clean, and new data would be written for the apps you use as you use them instead of restoring them from a different version.
I would never in any case restore system data, unless I'm reinstalling a clean flash of the same exact rom and build I was on.
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biTToe said:
Is there a specific app that backs up apps?
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Easy Backup is one and Helium is another.

BadUsername said:
I would never in any case restore system data, unless I'm reinstalling a clean flash of the same exact rom and build I was on.
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So, in my case, I would like to re-install the hyperdrive rom to add some other features and remove some features. Should I do a system data restore or would that not be a good idea?
What does a system data restore do for me? pros and cons?

biTToe said:
So, in my case, I would like to re-install the hyperdrive rom to add some other features and remove some features. Should I do a system data restore or would that not be a good idea?
What does a system data restore do for me? pros and cons?
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If you dirty flash without a factory reset your data will stay intact even after a reflash.
Stuff that's included in system data are contacts, text messages, call logs, etc. I usually never restore that stuff, and just let Google restore my contacts from the cloud.
It generally isn't a good idea, but it shouldn't be a problem going into the same rom. It's up to you whether to do it or not.
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you can restore apps coming from AOSP to TW or vice versa. Ive never had a problem anyway when i used to flip flop back and forth.
I always select user apps and not system apps though.
You can use sms backup and call log backup to restore messages and call logs. theyre great apps.

thanks
thanks everyone for all the advice and tips.
~biTToe

Hi -this is actually in response to a comment on another thread, but I wanted to be sure to reach you and figured if I commented on a thread you initiated you'd get a notification. I just got the S5 mini and it's driving me nuts - I primarily use it to listen to music and it skips/stops the song if I so much as breathe. I cant use it for jogging or even listening while walking, which means it's useless to me. Did you ever find a solution to the sensitivity factor - screen protector, case, etc.........? I may just return it. Even if I twist my hand the tiniest amount it happens, and it doesn't just skip - it turns the song or even the page off completely. I literally haven't been able to listen to one single song all the way through since I got it - even when it is laying down flat. Help!

hey:
weird way to contact me, but it worked.
i never did figure it out. i didn't try a screen protector either, i just hate them.
i just end up being annoyed at the thing.
I hang-up on people with my cheek, i inadvertently open or close apps. i am constantly opening the recent app menu (though i finally found a way to re=map that damn key)... so basically i'm stil unhappy, but i have a year till my contract expires so i'm living with it.
as an aside I somehow changed a setting, disabled my wi-fi, then lost root and can't seem to re-root or enable the wi-fi
~most un-excellent

Running Hyperdrive on my Note 3....phone no longer charging correctly, so got a replacement Note 3 via insurance. No longer have a pc to root, replacement, is there a way to root strictly via my phone?

cwalkin said:
Running Hyperdrive on my Note 3....phone no longer charging correctly, so got a replacement Note 3 via insurance. No longer have a pc to root, replacement, is there a way to root strictly via my phone?
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Towelroot may be your only option
Nexus 6 via SSHD/Cataclysm

Rooted/Custom Rom'd my AT&T S4, now for some basic a

[Thread in wrong area! Mods please move to AT&T S4 under Q/A!]
I recently rooted/installed CleanROM for my S4, but now I have some basic questions regarding what actually happened in the process and how I could improve it. (First smartphone, first Android).
1. Is flashing the exact equivalent of installing a kernel/ROM/app in a recovery like TeamWin that is zipped in an SD card? All I did was select my zipped file and install--the guide says to use GooManager but I never used it. Also, does updating TWRP, kernel, or ROM (same application/kernel/ROM, but newer version) require that you delete the old ZIP, copy over the new ZIP, then install it? Is there a cleaner method (I feel that since we have to wipe to prevent old files from interfering with new ROM that maybe parts of the old version of a ROM may be redundant or may interfere with the new ROM?
2. Is there a way I can save the phone settings when dealing with one ROM and transferring these settings to another ROM? I really don't want to spend 20 minutes to go through all the settings and change it to my liking every time I install a new ROM.
3. With TWRP I could backup the entire ROM and also be able to install that backup ROM if I don't like the new ROM installed? What does Titanium Backup offer in regards to this aside from backing up app data and the ability freeze/uninstall system apps?
4. Does Titanium Backup leave any residual files? I see other apps designed to uninstall system apps and Titanium Backup seems like an all-in-one jack of all trades.
5. I thought I wiped everything and to me, that sounds like reformatting the entire drive. I only wiped system, boot, and data though (good enough for ROMs, according to what I've read). I was surprised when I saw my videos that I had already backed up to my PC accessible on the phone. Should I just wipe literally everything (I assume it would be cleaner) like cache, preload, EFS, modem, recovery, etc.? Will wiping literally everything be like reformatting my phone (since my phone was not reformatted because my personal videos was still there when I installed my custom ROM? If I were to install completely different ROMs cleanly and wanted to keep my personal files, I would only need to wipe system, data, and boot?
4. Do I have to use CASUAL again to install an updated TWRP?
5. Does backing up a ROM also backup its root? I'm going to assume this is a dumb question and the answer is no. I'm also guessing I have to block OTA updates from AT&T to ensure I keep my root. How would I go about doing this? Also, would my phone be "safe" if I stick to my ROM (no updates or anything) for 4+ years? I'm asking this as an extreme case because I feel like I'm missing out on AT&T security updates that could protect my phone and also I don't think the developer my ROM (CleanROM) will do frequent updates).
6. I had problems with my computer not being able to recognize my phone and my SD card in the phone after I wiped everything and before I installed a ROM. I literally had to take the SD card from the phone and use an SD card reader to transfer my custom ROM/loki then put it back into the phone. Was I missing a driver?
7. What are some must-have apps a newly rooted user would want?
8. I read that you only need 1 EFS backup and you don't need to back it up every time you are going to install a custom ROM. Can I get a confirmation?
9. What does Goo Manager do and would I want it?
10. Is it essential that I keep up to date with news about my custom ROM/phone to ensure my phone is secured?
**Not Root/ROM related--Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List (long-press home button) the equivalent of killing an app? I use the Recent Apps List often but I don't want to go about swiping apps away if means it is killing it, since I read that killing apps are bad and actually drains battery life. Also, is there a mod that lets you access the Recent Apps List by long-pressing the menu one? I only see a mod that kills the app if you long-press it.
Thanks. I'm hoping for many responses as I have more questions to ask but not a lot of free time (I will check back on this thread every several hours until there are no more responses on the thread.

I think you are in the wrong forum.

@work said:
I think you are in the wrong forum.
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I know, I clicked the edit/delete thread but can't find the delete button. Under reason for editing I told the mods to move it to AT&T S4 under Q/A. I'm new to XDA, what should I do?

otumsel and
just wait,someone will be along and move it.

Root

Will this phone every get root?

that's not a prob at all.
two issues here:
1. whenever an OTA hits, rooted machine will have to flash back to factory recovery and upgrade to the latest OTA, after this re-root. To recovery it to factory setting, you will have to use a Chinese software (.bat); we usually do it for free for our customers in store; however, we have never done it via remotely controlling a computer. Therefore, we have not yet done one root for our overseas customers. We will think about it in the future and publish it here for everyone as well.
2. if you can live with the pre-installed huawei software (you can dis-enable many in the settings and move them to a folder), then Mate 7 provides excellent APPS management. For business men, of whom this phone is targeting at, security is a top concern and rooted machine always has concerns of security breach. Another main reason we are against to rooting this phone.
By the way, in addition to the fingerprint scanner, the Mate 7 offers an excellent feature to locate the phone if the phone is accidentally lost or stolen. You can locate the phone on map and even remotely control the phone (deleting all personal data, sending sms).
Once better customized ROM is available, then it might be a better time to root it.
GetMobilePhone

Personnaly i use root for multiple things :
Backup And restore my Apps (and data) with Titanium Backup
For Xposed Module (but with Huawei Rom i think is useless)
For Greenify, wich i personnaly use for better running app managment.
If i have a solution for backup my apps and data without root i'll be very happy, i have my mate tommorow and i already have an headache for restore all my apps that's i have from my htc one m7 backup with titanium.
I think like MIUI, EMUI have a backup app inside the rom, if it can backup app+data, i Root it for reinstall everythings, backup it with huawei backup app and after unroot the phone.
If i am wrong please correct me.

Is a (ClockWorkMod) Backup any good after upgrading (to cyanogenmod)?

I'm about to do an upgrade from an stock ROM to Cyanogenmod on a phone I have a lot of apps and settings on.
I know the guides always say "back up before upgrading in case it fails, then upgrade, you'll lose all your previous data". And I know that's the normal way it goes.
I'm a noob to the android OS structure, but is it possible to manually take any parts of the pre-upgrade backup data and paste it in the new OS?
For example how you can copy a lot of programs and AppData (profiles, settings etc) from one installation/version of windows to another.
In my case it would take a lot of extra configuration work even after I use the play store to re-download all the apps. Not to mention some apps are from for ex fdroid or github. And then there's the xposed modules.
Cheers!

I guess I'll upgrade and then try to overwrite app data folders and see how that goes.
I know a lot of you here upgrade your ROMs like every week. Do you spend like 3 days customizing your phone back after each flash?
[EDIT] Found an answer. No thanks to you friendly community (why did someone rate my thread down without saying anything?).
- I found out that Titanium Backup can batch-store all your apps and app data - I wonder if it stores stuff like my Catapult Launcher screen layout and folders.
- Also if all you're doing is an OTA upgrade, you can do it without loosing root: http://www.howtogeek.com/192402/why-androids-ota-updates-remove-root-and-how-to-keep-it/
So flash the new ROM, Root, restore from Titanium (since CWM does a system(-based) image afaik).

Question Picking a ROM for the X3 Pro

After a what seemed to be a long wait, my bootloader is finally unlocked. So now's the fun time.
Before I get started though, where can I actually get the ROM for my *current* device? (I have the Global version of the X3 Pro) in case I want to go back to it?
What I would like to say next, is that I am not trying to DeGoogle. I still want to be able to backup stuff on my phone to GoogleDrive, and I also plan to use a range of Google applications (Playstore, Google maps etc.). However, I would prefer if I didn't have to have the entire suite of Google application pre-installed, be able to just install what I want from the Playstore.
And this also applies for other applications. For instance, Netflix comes pre-installed on my device, but I do not use Netflix at the moment, and would much prefer not having it taking up space, and would rather be able to download it myself from PlayStore if I ever need it. Same with stuff like Facebook where I would rather use the much leaner Facebook Lite.
When people talk about "debloating", does it involve removing all traces of the pre-installed app, or is it only disabling/hiding from view?
I need root, and being able to pass safety net is preferable but not required (I keep an unrooted phone just in case, but it is old, and it would be nice if every app I may want to use will work).
Keeping those point in mind, what would make sense for me to do next?
Would it make sense to flash the xiaomi.eu and debloat? Or is it still be worthwhile to look into Lineage / Arrows even though I plan to use some GApps?
One more question, Xiaomi has it's own cloud backup system through it's Mi account. How does it differ from Google, and do custom ROM make use of those functionalities?
Thanks.

Debloating means to remove unwanted apps, usually those advertisement apps.
xiaomi.eu removed all the advertisement / sponsors apps like games etc, providing a clean MIUI experience.
Depending on the custom roms variant you installed, in general, most custom roms provide a clean android experience without any google related services. Basically like a fresh installed windows with very basic things. If you want google playstore and its related service, then you need to flash gapps and install the relevant stuffs from the apps store.
Afaik, MIUI backup is similar to titanium backup, in such that it can backup apps beyond google playstore.
Google only backup the list of playstore apps you use and data you configurated to backup.
Custom rom does not have MIUI backup for obviously because it isn't MIUI. You only can access google backup if you flash gapps.
Some people like MIUI but hate all the craps that come with it, so they either use debloater or xiaomi.eu
Some people like andriod so they use custom rom
For old phones, some people want to use latest android but stock rom has reached EOL, so they use custom rom.

Lu5ck said:
Debloating means to remove unwanted apps, usually those advertisement apps.
xiaomi.eu removed all the advertisement / sponsors apps like games etc, providing a clean MIUI experience.
Depending on the custom roms variant you installed, in general, most custom roms provide a clean android experience without any google related services. Basically like a fresh installed windows with very basic things. If you want google playstore and its related service, then you need install flash gapps and installed the relevant stuffs from the apps store.
Afaik, MIUI backup is similar to titanium backup, in such that it can backup apps beyond google playstore.
Google only backup the list of apps you use and data you configurated to backup.
Custom rom does not have MIUI backup for obviously because it isn't MIUI. You only can access google backup if you flash gapps.
Some people like MIUI but hate all the craps that come with it, so they either use debloater or xiaomi.eu
Some people like andriod so they use custom rom
For old phones, some people want to use latest android but stock rom has reached EOL, so they use custom rom.
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Thanks. Does Xiaomi.eu count as MIUI as far as MIUI backup etc. is concerned? Since it is still a modified ROM, I wonder if it is considered a "custom" ROM or not.
TBH, I am not even sure if I -want- to link a Xiaomi account to my phone, but just in case.

xAxB said:
Thanks. Does Xiaomi.eu count as MIUI as far as MIUI backup etc. is concerned? Since it is still a modified ROM, I wonder if it is considered a "custom" ROM or not.
TBH, I am not even sure if I -want- to link a Xiaomi account to my phone, but just in case.
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It is MIUI and also a custom rom.

Okay, now silly question perhaps, but is there a reliable / trusted site where I can get the stock ROM for my device (Global 12.0.4 Stable) if I do want to restore to stock?

xAxB said:
Okay, now silly question perhaps, but is there a reliable / trusted site where I can get the stock ROM for my device (Global 12.0.4 Stable) if I do want to restore to stock?
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Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com

Thank you!
One more question, where can I find information about kernels / compatibility with various ROMs etc.?
When Google I sometime see Reddit users praise a certain ROM/Kernal combination, but I never see any proper comparison. Even a feature comparison table would be handy.

xiaomi.eu is basically a debloated stock miui rom with no ads + some extra functions added from Chinese rom variant....
everything miui will work fine; it will be as if your're still on stock rom
I've been using xiaomi.eu rom for quite a while now; found no bugs.