Will this phone every get root?
that's not a prob at all.
two issues here:
1. whenever an OTA hits, rooted machine will have to flash back to factory recovery and upgrade to the latest OTA, after this re-root. To recovery it to factory setting, you will have to use a Chinese software (.bat); we usually do it for free for our customers in store; however, we have never done it via remotely controlling a computer. Therefore, we have not yet done one root for our overseas customers. We will think about it in the future and publish it here for everyone as well.
2. if you can live with the pre-installed huawei software (you can dis-enable many in the settings and move them to a folder), then Mate 7 provides excellent APPS management. For business men, of whom this phone is targeting at, security is a top concern and rooted machine always has concerns of security breach. Another main reason we are against to rooting this phone.
By the way, in addition to the fingerprint scanner, the Mate 7 offers an excellent feature to locate the phone if the phone is accidentally lost or stolen. You can locate the phone on map and even remotely control the phone (deleting all personal data, sending sms).
Once better customized ROM is available, then it might be a better time to root it.
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Personnaly i use root for multiple things :
Backup And restore my Apps (and data) with Titanium Backup
For Xposed Module (but with Huawei Rom i think is useless)
For Greenify, wich i personnaly use for better running app managment.
If i have a solution for backup my apps and data without root i'll be very happy, i have my mate tommorow and i already have an headache for restore all my apps that's i have from my htc one m7 backup with titanium.
I think like MIUI, EMUI have a backup app inside the rom, if it can backup app+data, i Root it for reinstall everythings, backup it with huawei backup app and after unroot the phone.
If i am wrong please correct me.
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I am currently using titanium backup which I'm assuming most of you do as well, however its a quite tedious process restoring all my apps, it asks me individually to install every app which takes a very long time depending on how many apps you are restoring.
With the developing section constantly streaming new updates and roms, how does one keep up with the restoring? I must be missing something here, do you guys all have to install your restored apps one by one?
There must be a simpler way right? I know that if you dont do a full wipe that your apps and settings stay but i find myself switching roms alot which do require full wipes.
If your rooted and buy titanium it will reinstall your apps without going one by one.
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If your rooted and buy titanium it will reinstall your apps without going one by one.
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Thanks for the quick response, I did not know that I will get the paid version asap!
I have had Titanium Pro for a couple years. When you backup apps do you just choose non system apps?
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I've been using Titanium and as a complete system that backs up settings for apps as well as the app itself, it's pretty awesome.
However there are times (like immediately after flashing a new rom) when you have nothing extra installed but a file manager and you want to install just the app of something from your sdcard without having to re-download from Google Play. For this, I have used and app available on Google Play called "Android Assistant" that has a reasonably simple back up that will backup just the apks of installed apps. It installs it in a directory "AndroidAssistant_appbackup" in the root directory of the sdcard. Using a File Manager you can easily go into there and install backed up apps.
If you use Titanium, you seem to have to use Titanium itself to restore stuff.
Titanium Backup Pro and SMS Backup and Restore do the trick for me. They are both very quick processes, so once you get the hang of it youll have no hesitations in switching ROMs constantly. Flash ROM, let it boot, go through the setup real quick, connect your google/email/facebook and whatnot, restore apps from TB, and restore texts, all takes less than 10 minutes.
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whats the simplest option for non rooted phones to back up the entire phone/data ? are there any apps that will create a full image that you can restore at a later date ?
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whats the simplest option for non rooted phones to back up the entire phone/data ? are there any apps that will create a full image that you can restore at a later date ?
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You are looking for clockwork mode, backup and restore - but unless you are prepared to root this isn't possible. Why would anyone want to stay rooted? Stock ROM is really, really poor.
I back up my apps using this tool...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448239
It's free and downloadable right from XDA.
It makes a single flashable zip file with all of your downloaded apps in it. (I don't think it backs up system apps)
When you install a new ROM you simply flash the zip and boom...all your apps are back.
The drawback is that it doesn't save app data. For that I use Titanium free version. Reinstalling data takes about 2 seconds per app instead of 30 seconds per app to reinstall the entire thing.
The whole process of putting apps and data back into a new ROM takes about 10-15 minutes.
I prefer Mybackup Pro, backs up apps and their data, sms & mms. Call log, settings and even how your homescreen setup. Been using it for about a year now and it's awesome.
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Is there a way to backup apps' data on non-rooted system?
Every application witch I saw backups only .apks, none of them saves application's data, I don't even know if it's possible?
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Is there a way to backup apps' data on non-rooted system?
Every application witch I saw backups only .apks, none of them saves application's data, I don't even know if it's possible?
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Many apps have a built in back up system that will let you do this.
For example, Go Launcher lets you back up your Go Launcher settings to a file it stores on the SD Card.
If you have to do a factory reset at some point and need to reinstall Go Launcher from scratch you can install it then simply restore your saved settings. Works like a charm. I'd say about 10% of the apps I use have this feature.
However, if you're talking about being able to back up every app and all its data and restore it....then no. You can't do that when not rooted.
Now if you don't want to root because you like your stock set up the way it is, you should know that you can root your phone without changing anything about the stock interface. You'll just have the ability to do more complete back ups, modifications to settings etc.
(Though fair warning, if you do root it, you won't stop with just doing backups. You'll get carried away like the rest of us and start tweaking EVERYTHING. But that's cool too.)
chrisrj28 said:
I prefer Mybackup Pro, backs up apps and their data, sms & mms. Call log, settings and even how your homescreen setup. Been using it for about a year now and it's awesome.
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just what im looking for , thank you
Skipjacks said:
Many apps have a built in back up system that will let you do this.
For example, Go Launcher lets you back up your Go Launcher settings to a file it stores on the SD Card.
If you have to do a factory reset at some point and need to reinstall Go Launcher from scratch you can install it then simply restore your saved settings. Works like a charm. I'd say about 10% of the apps I use have this feature.
However, if you're talking about being able to back up every app and all its data and restore it....then no. You can't do that when not rooted.
Now if you don't want to root because you like your stock set up the way it is, you should know that you can root your phone without changing anything about the stock interface. You'll just have the ability to do more complete back ups, modifications to settings etc.
(Though fair warning, if you do root it, you won't stop with just doing backups. You'll get carried away like the rest of us and start tweaking EVERYTHING. But that's cool too.)
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Thanks for the info. I know that some applications have backup options, but I was hopping that there's an easier way to backup more important apps, or actually its data.
I also know what rooting means, and I'm not going to end at backups
Actually, I like stock firmware for now, don't need to change that, I just want to root for some more advanced options, additional software that needs root access, and maybe to remove, or at least freeze some unnecessary apps.
P.S. I'm actually a little disappointed about HTCdev web page. I was almost sure, that I can unlock bootloader and root the system without factory reset. I read all the info, and warnings on HTCdev.com, and nowhere, NOWHERE was written that to unlock bootloader you need to factory reset your device.
I went through all the steps, and on the last one, where I had a choice to flash, or to abort, was mentioned that flashing will do factory reset. The worst thing is that the steps shows up one after another, I couldn't even read the last one before sending the unlock code to HTC. So now - even when I didn't unlock my device, they have info that I wanted to do this, and my warranty is voided (or at least partially voided).
I am about to unlock the bootloader and root my Nexus 5. I have had the phone for a long time so I have a lot of apps and data on my phone that I don't want to lose. I need a way to do a 100% backup of my apps, app settings/data, and personal data. I would like to create a custom rom of my phone, then flash that rom back after I unlock and root. Is this possible to create a custom rom backup without an unlocked bootloader and rooted phone? Will this backup everything on my phone like I want or will I need to do something else?
I have unlocked, rooted, and flashed ROMs before on my Droid X and Nexus 4.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Use Helium to backup apps and rest of the stuff can be copy pasted to your computer.
Do check the thread linked in my signature before you start flashing things!
Thanks for the reply.
I have Helium and have been using it for a while to backup but I haven't restored anything yet. It seems to always run into errors or fail to backup everything but every backup app I have used does the same. The best backup app I have used is titanium but it requires root which makes it useless for this.
Android needs a cloud sync for app settings/data. This would solve one of the biggest android problems. I hate losing my game progress and other app data.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have Helium and have been using it for a while to backup but I haven't restored anything yet. It seems to always run into errors or fail to backup everything but every backup app I have used does the same. The best backup app I have used is titanium but it requires root which makes it useless for this.
Android needs a cloud sync for app settings/data. This would solve one of the biggest android problems. I hate losing my game progress and other app data.
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I have used Helium only once when I was full stock to backup some 50 apps and it did it's job without complaints.
Almost all games which I play are synced with Google Play Games. So, even though local phone content gets erased, I can sync via Play Games and start where I left off.
I have synced with Google play for the games that Can but some games that I have a ton of progress in don't have that option. Need For Speed: Most Wanted for example. I lost all of my progress when I rooted my Nexus 4 and then again when I switched to my Nexus 5. I tried every backup method I could find and the only one that ever worked was titanium.
I am reading the thread you mentioned. I am pretty confident in my ability to root and flash. I have used command prompt to unlock, root, and flash several times. I am currently using the skipsoft toolkit because it is easy and quick and I hate typing all of the commands and directories into cmd prompt. I just flashed stock android 4.4.4 onto my Nexus 4 and rerooted it a few hours ago. It did have an issue where the play store service was messed up so I had to reflash it but it is working flawless now. Planning on selling the Nexus 4 so I just wanted a clean and updated install.
Hello to everyone,
In the past years I always rooted my phone to have a complete backup solution on my phones (Titanium Backup).
When I bought my last phone (Galaxy S6) I decided for the first time to try something different without rooting my phone in order to keep my warranty, automatic OTA updates, and other advantages like Samsung Pay.
The decision wasn't too bad because with PlayGames, manual OneDrive sync of some key backup directories trought FolderSync and especially thanks to Carbon Backup which works in fact more or less like Titanium Backup but without root, I keeped all my app's and games data saved...
But now there is a new problem...
Carbon isn't working with Marshmallow and PlayGames doesn't backup data of a significant number of games. The new backup solution of Android 6.0 seems very nice but if I unterstood right it works only with apps (only few are supported now) and not with games which is the biggest problem for me.
Is it possibile that in 2016 we can't get a complete and working backup solution to restore all data of our apps and games on Android?
Thanks,
As you said, this backup feature of MM only works for a small amount of apps because only a few are updated to/support this feature.
What do you mean by carbon isn't working with MM?
Till now there is no way to make a complete backup of every app without root (correct me if I'm wrong).
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As you said, this backup feature of MM only works for a small amount of apps because only a few are updated to/support this feature.
What do you mean by carbon isn't working with MM?
Till now there is no way to make a complete backup of every app without root (correct me if I'm wrong).
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With Helium Backup (Carbon) on Android Lollipop it is possible to backup app and games data without root.
I'm about to do an upgrade from an stock ROM to Cyanogenmod on a phone I have a lot of apps and settings on.
I know the guides always say "back up before upgrading in case it fails, then upgrade, you'll lose all your previous data". And I know that's the normal way it goes.
I'm a noob to the android OS structure, but is it possible to manually take any parts of the pre-upgrade backup data and paste it in the new OS?
For example how you can copy a lot of programs and AppData (profiles, settings etc) from one installation/version of windows to another.
In my case it would take a lot of extra configuration work even after I use the play store to re-download all the apps. Not to mention some apps are from for ex fdroid or github. And then there's the xposed modules.
Cheers!
I guess I'll upgrade and then try to overwrite app data folders and see how that goes.
I know a lot of you here upgrade your ROMs like every week. Do you spend like 3 days customizing your phone back after each flash?
[EDIT] Found an answer. No thanks to you friendly community (why did someone rate my thread down without saying anything?).
- I found out that Titanium Backup can batch-store all your apps and app data - I wonder if it stores stuff like my Catapult Launcher screen layout and folders.
- Also if all you're doing is an OTA upgrade, you can do it without loosing root: http://www.howtogeek.com/192402/why-androids-ota-updates-remove-root-and-how-to-keep-it/
So flash the new ROM, Root, restore from Titanium (since CWM does a system(-based) image afaik).
Please advise. I really **Really** want to be sure that if I try to backup my sister's phone that I do it properly and can fully and cleanly restore it to a new ROM with no issue. (Be sure that I'll also do external backups of Photos and SMS/MMS databases and whatever else possible onto a computer first, in case of data loss or if I screw up.)
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Okay, so here's the situation: (Google Pixel 6 Pro)
So I installed a custom ROM on my sisters brand new phone a couple of months back. Problem is, the dev behind said ROM may stop maintaining it due to personal reasons. I'll need to in this case switch her phone to another ROM, so that she continues to receive security updates. By the sounds of it I have to wipe the phone completely when switching ROMs, including the user partition. (Correct me if wrong.)
I'm still fairly new to the custom ROM/unlocked bootloader world, so I wanted to kindly ask around for advice on how to **Properly** backup her phone in such a way that I can later fully restore her photos, SMS/MMS, apps, etc. more or less as though I never switched ROMs on her.
I've already heard of TWRP, but the phone doesn't have a version for it. I also heard about the promising Migrate app posted here. Last but not least is the ADB backup feature--however I also heard some conflicting information suggesting that of late Google is deprecating that feature and making it useless. (Please correct if wrong.) I'm still fairly new to the whole custom ROM scene (and rooting too, but in this case her phone is unrooted, only bootloader unlocked with a custom ROM).
Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling it's mission... let it be! Updates can and do break things. Pie and higher are relatively secure unless you do stupid things. This stock, optimized N10+ is still running on Pie; last update >2.5 years, current load is over 2 yo. Still fast, stable and secure. I spend very little time doing maintenance and this load runs like a bat out of hell. What's not to like?
If you have to reload latter so be it. Don't go looking for trouble by messing with firmware unless you absolutely need to. Taking a more conservative approach will save you time and trouble in the long run. Google doesn't care about your time or the trouble their updates cause you.
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Please advise. I really **Really** want to be sure that if I try to backup my sister's phone that I do it properly and can fully and cleanly restore it to a new ROM with no issue. (Be sure that I'll also do external backups of Photos and SMS/MMS databases and whatever else possible onto a computer first, in case of data loss or if I screw up.)
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Okay, so here's the situation: (Google Pixel 6 Pro)
So I installed a custom ROM on my sisters brand new phone a couple of months back. Problem is, the dev behind said ROM may stop maintaining it due to personal reasons. I'll need to in this case switch her phone to another ROM, so that she continues to receive security updates. By the sounds of it I have to wipe the phone completely when switching ROMs, including the user partition. (Correct me if wrong.)
I'm still fairly new to the custom ROM/unlocked bootloader world, so I wanted to kindly ask around for advice on how to **Properly** backup her phone in such a way that I can later fully restore her photos, SMS/MMS, apps, etc. more or less as though I never switched ROMs on her.
I've already heard of TWRP, but the phone doesn't have a version for it. I also heard about the promising Migrate app posted here. Last but not least is the ADB backup feature--however I also heard some conflicting information suggesting that of late Google is deprecating that feature and making it useless. (Please correct if wrong.) I'm still fairly new to the whole custom ROM scene (and rooting too, but in this case her phone is unrooted, only bootloader unlocked with a custom ROM).
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There should be no reason to need to wipe user partition. It should only be necessary to, at most, wipe the system partition(stock ROM), data partition(user installed apps and user settings), cache partition and dalvik/ART cache then flash the ROM. These wipes will wipe system data, your user settings, user installed apps and their corresponding app data. These wipes will not wipe data/media, the partition where your photos, videos, downloaded files, etc.. are stored.
You can backup the app data for the user installed apps by connecting to PC then use the PC file manager to open your device's internal storage, go to the Android/data folder, in that folder is all of your user app data. Copy the Android/data folder to your PC. After you install your ROM, reinstall all of the user apps that were installed then you can connect to PC and then copy your backed up Android/data folder over to your device to overwrite the ROMs existing Android/data folder. This will restore your app data for your user installed apps.
Contacts should be backed up to Google and restored when signing into the device after the new ROM boots and re-syncing the device.
You will need to backup your SMS/MMS texts via a separate method. Just do a search for:
"Backup and Restore SMS android"
That should find several methods. Use a method that you are comfortable with.
If you use WhatsApp, backing up and restoring WhatsApp, WhatsApp account and your WhatsApp messages requires it's own specific method. You can find the method by doing a search for:
"Backup and restore WhatsApp"
Sorry, if I knew its specific method, I would explain it.
Is there anything else that you don't want to risk losing or anything specific that is on your device that you 100% absolutely need to be certain gets retained/restored after the update?
What custom ROM are you coming from and what ROM are you going to? Depending on the ROMs in question, you might be able to dirty flash the ROM.