Alternative to Titanium Backup? - OnePlus 8T Questions & Answers

Hey everyone,
I've been using Titanium backup for a few weeks now but one thing irks me about it.. even though it successfully backs up my apps and I assume my data - when it comes to restoring the backup, it always re-installs the apps in a broken state.
After restoration is complete, about 1/3rd of my apps have to be re-installed. When I tap on an app, it crashes soon as it opens.
I'm currently trying out Migrate - but TWRP throws an error 7 when attempting to restore the backed up ZIP that Migrate created.
Swift I read is awesome, unfortunately it's a google focused app, and this device is degoogled for privacy and security reasons.
Any free options to replace Titanium Backup?
Device info
Hardware: OnePlus 8T (KB2003)
Android Version: 11
OS: LineageOS for microG 18.1 (Kebab)
Magisk Version: f822ca5b (23001)
App: f822ca5b (23001) (21)
Package: com.topjohnwu.magisk
TWRP version: twrp-3.5.2_11-0-kebab-20210726-alpha

Fumetsu_Guritto said:
Hey everyone,
I've been using Titanium backup for a few weeks now but one thing irks me about it.. even though it successfully backs up my apps and I assume my data - when it comes to restoring the backup, it always re-installs the apps in a broken state.
After restoration is complete, about 1/3rd of my apps have to be re-installed. When I tap on an app, it crashes soon as it opens.
I'm currently trying out Migrate - but TWRP throws an error 7 when attempting to restore the backed up ZIP that Migrate created.
Swift I read is awesome, unfortunately it's a google focused app, and this device is degoogled for privacy and security reasons.
Any free options to replace Titanium Backup?
Device info
Hardware: OnePlus 8T (KB2003)
Android Version: 11
OS: LineageOS for microG 18.1 (Kebab)
Magisk Version: f822ca5b (23001)
App: f822ca5b (23001) (21)
Package: com.topjohnwu.magisk
TWRP version: twrp-3.5.2_11-0-kebab-20210726-alpha
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Migrate works great for me. Migrate On Apkpure

MirageSteezyBoi said:
Migrate works great for me. Migrate On Apkpure
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Okay, I figured Migrate was a good choice. I'll spend some time troubleshooting Error 7.

Fumetsu_Guritto said:
Okay, I figured Migrate was a good choice. I'll spend some time troubleshooting Error 7.
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After using Titanium Backup Pro for years, I've pretty much switched over to Swift Backup. I just use it locally without any cloud backup. Not sure how it would react without Gapps. However since you have microg I would assume it should work.

OhioYJ said:
After using Titanium Backup Pro for years, I've pretty much switched over to Swift Backup. I just use it locally without any cloud backup. Not sure how it would react without Gapps. However since you have microg I would assume it should work.
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+1000, the best for me

There is also fully free backup tool OAndBackupX
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com

Titanium stopped working nicely for me too. I just use it to freeze apps and small stuff.
Migrate works good.

TheDidek said:
There is also fully free backup tool OAndBackupX
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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OandbackupX is a great choice. It's what I use.

For TB, i noticed it hangs on restoring of apps. But if i install app via PlayStore or manually via APK and then restore app data in TB it works as promised.

TheDidek said:
There is also fully free backup tool OAndBackupX
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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Thanks was able to make use of this

Rootk1t said:
For TB, i noticed it hangs on restoring of apps. But if i install app via PlayStore or manually via APK and then restore app data in TB it works as promised.
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That's because TB can't handle split apks.

swift backup is recommended and i can restore without any issue with it

BillGoss said:
That's because TB can't handle split apks.
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You mean, its developer is too lazy to work that out. He's been promising for years, because some people paid for his Pro version, but he's not been doing much. Maybe he died from CoViD.

jult said:
You mean, its developer is too lazy to work that out. He's been promising for years, because some people paid for his Pro version, but he's not been doing much. Maybe he died from CoViD.
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As far as i know, latest release of TB dates back to 2019, even before Covid widespread.
Maybe the author is not interested in developing TB anymore for some reason.

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Swift is the best. Latest version only.

I had the same problem when I switched form my S9+ running Android 9 to my new S20 Ultra running Android.
Almost all apps crashed after restore.
I got the tip to try "Swift Backup" and I must say it works perfectly. You can choose to backup your apps and data locally or on google drive or something similar. If you backup your apps in the cloud you can easily access those backups from another phone and restore them

The only problem with Swift Backup is that backed up data is encrypted and you can't decrypt it on your own.

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[req] any alternatives to titanium backup??

i am looking for backup app like titanium backup. i installed many different versions of titanium backup, but erevy of them are crushing before the app-screen opens.
helium backup is also not option....what the hell...conncet usb-cable to use helium backup
any suggestion for good backup app, like titanium backup which is developed actively.???
ari2asem said:
i am looking for backup app like titanium backup. i installed many different versions of titanium backup, but erevy of them are crushing before the app-screen opens.
helium backup is also not option....what the hell...conncet usb-cable to use helium backup
any suggestion for good backup app, like titanium backup which is developed actively.???
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I've been using Titanium backup from Android 2.3 through 8.1.
What device are you using?
Android version?
Rooted?
sd_shadow said:
I've been using Titanium backup from Android 2.3 through 8.1.
What device are you using?
Android version?
Rooted?
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i am using oneplus one, with ressurection remix rom and kernel inside this rom. it is rooted, i have magisk latest version. android version is nougat.
ari2asem said:
i am using oneplus one, with ressurection remix rom and kernel inside this rom. it is rooted, i have magisk latest version. android version is nougat.
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The oneplus one doesn't have a sd card slot does it?
If it did, you could try Link2sd or App2sd, I think both have backup options.
I would use the report post option, and ask a Mod to move this to
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help

TWRP not support for Android 10. What to use for backup/restore?

I've always made TWRP NANDroid imgs for backup & restore.
Twrp doesn't work with Android10 yet. So what are you all using instead?
Momotani-Hitoshi said:
I've always made TWRP NANDroid imgs for backup & restore.
Twrp doesn't work with Android10 yet. So what are you all using instead?
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Have you tried formatting a USB drive and backing up your data (important files - Pics, SMS, etc.) to a USB drive including an apps list? If you can use Titanium Backup with this ROM you can skip the apps list and restore your apps with Titanium Backup. Then when you finish flashing a ROM you just copy your files back to your phone from the USB with a 'root capable' file explorer.
It will not back up your boot image, system image or Vendor image, but if a reset is required you won't lose all your important data.
Homeboy76 said:
Have you tried formatting a USB drive and backing up your data (important files - Pics, SMS, etc.) to a USB drive including an apps list? If you can use Titanium Backup with this ROM you can skip the apps list and restore your apps with Titanium Backup. Then when you finish flashing a ROM you just copy your files back to your phone from the USB with a 'root capable' file explorer.
It will not back up your boot image, system image or Vendor image, but if a reset is required you won't lose all your important data.
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Can Titanium Backup restore system settings/configs etc like twrp nandroid?
I want a complete system backup/restore so I won't need to setup/configure device again after a wipe.
Momotani-Hitoshi said:
Can Titanium Backup restore system settings/configs etc like twrp nandroid?
I want a complete system backup/restore so I won't need to setup/configure device again after a wipe.
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Nope
@Momotani-Hitoshi
Gonna have to go back to Android 9 until or if they even get TWRP working on 10 for the Pixels. This is probably one of the biggest reasons I'm still on 9.
Titanium is still fairly unreliable as well as I still come into contact with certain apps that refuse to work after restoring them with titanium (Waze is one such app)
I am using Swift Backup and it works flawlessly. It saves things on the cloud (if you want or also locally) and then you can restore on any phone. I actually like it better than Titanium, which I have used since the days of my Note 3.
KUSOsan said:
@Momotani-Hitoshi
Gonna have to go back to Android 9 until or if they even get TWRP working on 10 for the Pixels. This is probably one of the biggest reasons I'm still on 9.
Titanium is still fairly unreliable as well as I still come into contact with certain apps that refuse to work after restoring them with titanium (Waze is one such app)
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Came across your post by chance while searching to understand why TWRP failed to restore the images made of LineageOS 17.1 (Android 10) on my Wileyfox. Huge time waste, as is Titanium at present, with this Android version.
I am still using TiBu daily and occasionally sync TiBu to Google drive. Swift Backup looks like a good alternative.
I miss NANDROID backups with TWRP.
OAndBackupX on F-droid is free and seems to function well enough
TRWP is now available for Pixel 3/XL Android 10!
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swieder711 said:
I am still using TiBu daily and occasionally sync TiBu to Google drive. Swift Backup looks like a good alternative.
I miss NANDROID backups with TWRP.
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Hi. Please tell me more about TiBu backup application. Thanks.
ali32768 said:
Hi. Please tell me more about TiBu backup application. Thanks.
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You can find Titanium Backup (TiBu) in the play store.
ali32768 said:
Hi. Please tell me more about TiBu backup application. Thanks.
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Used it for years, When I updated to a new phone and every version update and Rom change. It can upload your backup to Goggle Drive. I usually copy the storage directory to my PC.
Setup auto backup schedule, your good to go.
I paid for it yrs ago,still reloads with no problems.
It's a powerful app.
swieder711 said:
You can find Titanium Backup (TiBu) in the play store.
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I'm sorry but Titanium backup need root. and all my banking accounts are stopped after the root.
How can i use both Titanium with bank accounts?
Note that i need to backup data from root condition. also need to use bank accounts.
Thanks.
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mgp53 said:
Used it for years, When I updated to a new phone and every version update and Rom change. It can upload your backup to Goggle Drive. I usually copy the storage directory to my PC.
Setup auto backup schedule, your good to go.
I paid for it yrs ago,still reloads with no problems.
It's a powerful app.
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I'm sorry but Titanium backup need root. and all my banking accounts are stopped after the root.
How can i use both Titanium with bank accounts?
Note that i need to backup data from root condition. also need to use bank accounts.
Thanks.
ali32768 said:
I'm sorry but Titanium backup need root. and all my banking accounts are stopped after the root.
How can i use both Titanium with bank accounts?
Note that i need to backup data from root condition. also need to use bank accounts.
Thanks.
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If you are using Magisk for root than you can hide root from Banking Apps, like Bank of America.
I have successfully hid my banking apps in Magisk. I get all of my three banks working properly with root.
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Lloyd Bank still not working with Magisk Hide
swieder711 said:
If you are using Magisk for root than you can hide root from Banking Apps, like Bank of America.
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Sorry. I try but Lloyd Bank App (I'm in UK) always detect that my phone is rooted.
1. I try to add Lloyd Bank to MagiskHide list. But Lloyd Bank App detect my phone is jailbreak/rooted.
2. I try to Rename Magisk to hide From other apps as an Magisk option. But Lloyd Bank App detect my phone is jailbreak/rooted.
3. I try to completly uninstall Magisk. Now Lloyd Bank App works properly. Then i lost my root permission now.
How can i stay on root permission with Lloyd Bank App working?
Thanks.
ali32768 said:
Lloyd Bank still not working with Magisk Hide
Sorry. I try but Lloyd Bank App (I'm in UK) always detect that my phone is rooted.
1. I try to add Lloyd Bank to MagiskHide list. But Lloyd Bank App detect my phone is jailbreak/rooted.
2. I try to Rename Magisk to hide From other apps as an Magisk option. But Lloyd Bank App detect my phone is jailbreak/rooted.
3. I try to completly uninstall Magisk. Now Lloyd Bank App works properly. Then i lost my root permission now.
How can i stay on root permission with Lloyd Bank App working?
Thanks.
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Answer my question. Please.
ali32768 said:
Answer my question. Please.
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ok. It fixed for me after magisk update.
Zepher013 said:
OAndBackupX on F-droid is free and seems to function well enough
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so then does this replace TiBu for you on total?

Titanium backup: Apps crash after restore

Migrating to a new phone and discovered an issue with the backups on my old phone. This is tested and happening on both btw.
If I backup and restore a working app it then will force close on opening. Clearing cache and data and still force closes.
I tried uninstalling titanium, deleting titanium folder and reinstalling.
Same issue after a backup and restore of an application.
Running Oneplus 6 and Oneplus 7 pro
Unlocked and unrooted with magisk
Titanium at latest version from market.
logcat
https://pastebin.com/6R8Wv12D
Thanks for any help available
tabooki said:
Migrating to a new phone and discovered an issue with the backups on my old phone. This is tested and happening on both btw.
If I backup and restore a working app it then will force close on opening. Clearing cache and data and still force closes.
I tried uninstalling titanium, deleting titanium folder and reinstalling.
Same issue after a backup and restore of an application.
Running Oneplus 6 and Oneplus 7 pro
Unlocked and unrooted with magisk
Titanium at latest version from market.
logcat
https://pastebin.com/6R8Wv12D
Thanks for any help available
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App restore with titanium doesn't work for switching to a new phone, only restoring to the same phone and same os. When it does work the apps tend to be super glitchy. I'll drop a link to the xda thread where you can get more info/ help. Good luck.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717159
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swiftbones74 said:
App restore with titanium doesn't work for switching to a new phone, only restoring to the same phone and same os.
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Agreed. I've only migrated app data to a new phone using TB import/export (.TiBkp) feature. AFAIK, you can only do that one app at a time. So I've only done it with a few apps that I really wanted to save the user data.
More folks on this forum are recommending Swift Backup these days. It seems more reliable for this phone. I've use TB for years, but now I've just started trying out Swift Backup.
It appears TB is not compatible with the newer "split apks" format for newer apps in the appstore.
Basically TB will only backup the "base.apk" for an app when it does a backup. But with split apks, there are other APK files besides base.apk, like one for the app's language (split_config.en.apk) or the cpu type (split_config_arm64_v8a.apk) and the screen resolution (split_config.xxhdpi.apk).
So, since TB does NOT backup these extra apk files, these files will be missing when you do a restore with TB and thus the restored app will crash when you try to run it.
Luckily there is a new open-source backup app that works well with Slit-apks on Android 8+:
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
And I think it's better then Swift backup because:
1) Swift backup requires your google account login
2) Swift backup throws errors if you block internet access to it for security reasons
3) Swift backup is not open-source, so it could go the way of TB in the future.
4) And OandBackupX is FREE
JohnC said:
It appears TB is not compatible with the newer "split apks" format for newer apps in the appstore.
Basically TB will only backup the "base.apk" for an app when it does a backup. But with split apks, there are other APK files besides base.apk, like one for the app's language (split_config.en.apk) or the cpu type (split_config_arm64_v8a.apk) and the screen resolution (split_config.xxhdpi.apk).
So, since TB does NOT backup these extra apk files, these files will be missing when you do a restore with TB and thus the restored app will crash when you try to run it.
Luckily there is a new open-source backup app that works well with Slit-apks on Android 8+:
GitHub - NeoApplications/Neo-Backup: backup manager for android
backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
And I think it's better then Swift backup because:
1) Swift backup requires your google account login
2) Swift backup throws errors if you block internet access to it for security reasons
3) Swift backup is not open-source, so it could go the way of TB in the future.
4) And OandBackupX is FREE
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So I tried this app and maybe you can help me out and tell me why after trying a restore I ended up with all of these errors , any advice or hints would be great,,,also prior to attempted install I was rooted and about 40 plus apps installed fine,
Swift does not give me these errors
Thanks
[email protected] said:
So I tried this app and maybe you can help me out and tell me why after trying a restore I ended up with all of these errors , any advice or hints would be great,,,also prior to attempted install I was rooted and about 40 plus apps installed fine,
Swift does not give me these errors
Thanks
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Those errors seem like there is a problem with xandbackupx not being able to gain root access.
When you first started OABX, it has a bunch of cards where each card requires a different permission on your device - did you go through each card/step and give all those permissions, including root?
Are you using android 8+?
JohnC said:
Those errors seem like there is a problem with xandbackupx not being able to gain root access.
When you first started OABX, it has a bunch of cards where each card requires a different permission on your device - did you go through each card/step and give all those permissions, including root?
Are you using android 8+?
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Thanks for the reply,,, yes I checked all and granted all permissions, Iam on a11 firmware running a a12 rom Bliss, ,, I will mess with it some more with it , it looks really robust with alot of options so maybe one of the settings need to be ticked or maybe it's just this rom, it's not a big deal as I have the other one to fall back on until I do some more testing

Backup & Restore

Hi Guys
Which app you use to backup and restore OPO 7 pro?
Google account shows Waiting for backup but never takes a backup.
Kindly advice if i need to use any APP to backup to a cloud? I havent rooted my device. Thanks
zeeshee said:
Hi Guys
Which app you use to backup and restore OPO 7 pro?
Google account shows Waiting for backup but never takes a backup.
Kindly advice if i need to use any APP to backup to a cloud? I havent rooted my device. Thanks
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I'd start with OnePlus' official app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oneplus.backuprestore
I'm sure there's other 3rd party solutions out there.
Here's a couple of lists to peruse:
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/pictures-story/633-best-android-backup-apps.html
https://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-backup-apps-and-other-ways-too-608014/
I myself don't backup anything other than my Google account/apps, but, it makes sense to use the mfgs own tool & wouldn't hurt to use others as well, see which method(s) do the best job.
Problem with OnePlus switch is that it takes backup locally. What if I need to install a custom ROM and then restore my backup ? How can I do that as I have to factory reset my phone for it.
Have you followed this guide for fixing Android backup?
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-backup-google-drive-broken-how-to-fix-manager/
Just so you know, it can take some time before the backups succeeds after applying this. For me it succeeded one day later.
I used to use titanium backup but when I got on OnePlus 7 pro titanium would stop working when restoring so I switched to swift backup and it works really smooth and just the other day I did my first restore from swift (with root permissions) and it did really well getting accounts logged back into and everything. I only had a few trouble apps that I had to clear data and re-log into but otherwise went unexpectedly smooth
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Migrate does the trick easily.

Google Pay Backup&Restore with Rom backup

Hello everyone, hope I will find the answers as I properly did my research and did not find as much info as i wanted.
So, long short story, 2 devices, Pixel 3, bot with root access and custom roms, my question is: Can I backup entirely one rom from another (containing the google pay and google apps) and restore it on the other device, will cards work? From my knowledge, for example, some data is encrypter/stored in some places or some way that an app like Titanium Backup would not restore it totally so, would a total backup and restore from one phone to another work?
Thanks!
testingdomains said:
Hello everyone, hope I will find the answers as I properly did my research and did not find as much info as i wanted.
So, long short story, 2 devices, Pixel 3, bot with root access and custom roms, my question is: Can I backup entirely one rom from another (containing the google pay and google apps) and restore it on the other device, will cards work? From my knowledge, for example, some data is encrypter/stored in some places or some way that an app like Titanium Backup would not restore it totally so, would a total backup and restore from one phone to another work?
Thanks!
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Definitely not possible with Titanium Backup. TB has not been updated since 2019, and restore on recent Android versions does not work properly. I use Swift Backup, and have used it to move apps from one phone to another (the phones both had the same ROM). You might have problems if you have different ROMs on the two phones. I don't use Google Pay, so can't comment on it. I didn't have a problem with the apps I did restore.
Update: it works using twrp (backup and restore only /data)
testingdomains said:
Update: it works using twrp (backup and restore only /data)
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What Android version are you on? I thought TWRP did not work on Pixel 3 Android 11. If you have TWRP that works on 11, where can I get it?
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What Android version are you on? I thought TWRP did not work on Pixel 3 Android 11. If you have TWRP that works on 11, where can I get it?
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Hi, I'm on version 10, only twrp and magisk (keeping as simple and debloated as possible)

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