I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
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Master K
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
entropism said:
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.
OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.
Markeee said:
I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5
mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.
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I've owned a few phones, notably my long-time companion Note 4 (TMobile). Recently my office announced they're flipping our TMobile account to Sprint. We get a "new" phone but not quite cutting edge... though a Note 5 seems a nice move forward despite the loss of removable battery and extra sd-card slot. But can someone explain to me the strangely unpopulated page here compared to the Note 4's page (or even the One Plus 2 page, where actual Oreo roms are popping up like weeds)? Is it all about the Exynos chip, or Sprint, or what? There's a dearth of new development going on here compared to my other two phones and I'm baffled. Thanks....
The 920P it is not very compatible. Being just a USA phone, It doesn't get enough attention from developers*. All Note5 and S6 phones are Exynos, but the Sprint models just have poor support. And they are also 3 years old.
*The Sprint model doesn't work very well outside the Americas (continent)
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The 920P it is not very compatible. Being just a USA phone, It doesn't get enough attention from developers*. All Note5 and S6 phones are Exynos, but the Sprint models just have poor support. And they are also 3 years old.
*The Sprint model doesn't work very well outside the Americas (continent)
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Well, that's not what I want to hear. Tell me something comforting! HAHAHAHA.
If at some stage I want to unlock the phone (say in 8 months or less when TMobile and Sprint merge) will it have all the hardware inside it to function as a TMobile or other provider's phone? Incl. LTE, wifi calling, and the rest?
shonkin said:
If at some stage I want to unlock the phone (say in 8 months or less when TMobile and Sprint merge) will it have all the hardware inside it to function as a TMobile or other provider's phone? Incl. LTE, wifi calling, and the rest?
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I don't think so, this being a carrier specific model it is very limited so you can't use it elsewhere. In Mexico I get LTE with the most popular carrier and some other people in Vietnam and India. You can wait to see if it works for you.
I did find this thread on sprint that discusses unlocking (domestically) the Sprint Note 5 for use as a GSM phone (TMobile, AT&T and the like). At some point it may be of use to me or someone else...
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Sam...ng-Note-5-for-Domestic-use-on-GSM/td-p/960238
I did finally get the Sprint Note 5, by the way.... first thing I noticed is that compared to my old Note 4 its battery life *sucks*. But such a nice phone otherwise, despite no switchable battery or microsd slot. (I solved the latter to a degree by getting a 64gb version of the phone).
I unlocked my Note5 via a paid service...
Hello to Everyone:
This is my first post so please don't hold it against me. Thank you in advance.
I used the unlock service of idoneapps.com. it ran $35. Opted for the debranding option as well but skipped the MetroPCS option.
My phone is no longer Sprint branded and got rid of their bloatware. TWRP with SuperSu installed and I can pull out my T-Mobile SIM out and put in an AT&T SIM in and it works seamlessly.
Get access to the hidden menu and hotspot is unlocked while I get to manually select, (if desired), WDCMA, GSM, etc... Connects at LTE and the wireless switching works great. WiFi hotspot also works great.
Couldn't be more pleased as I also can turn off anything as the package comes with an app manager. It is great not to have Facebook, Snapchat, or the Sprint crud running. No more stupid Sprint boot animation.
I am currently running a Samsung branded Nougat 920P that I had my own IMEI number generated TWRP let's me access the recovery mode and let's me flash perfectly.
XPosed is installed with, AdAway 3.3, ViperFX 6.5.0.5, YouTube ad blocker, rootcloak. Upgraded to SuperSu pro however I still haven't managed to go systemless.
I play Crash Fever so I am stupid and actually spend money that game so my Google Play code redeeming works fine. Samsung Pay won't ever work because of rooting but oh well... ACMarket, MS office mobile, the Samsung Suite of apps, and all the S-Pen features work seemlessly.
Anyways, I hope I didn't violate any rules by my posting as I love XDA as this community is phenomenal.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask me as I would be glad to field any questions or facilitate details as may be needed.
Eagerly awaiting an Oreo update.
Gellybean777
Read some time ago that the Z Fold 2 didn't have eSIM support out of the box but they enabled it via software update. Would this be possible with the Zenfone 7 Pro? Like a dumbass I automatically assumed that the ZF7Pro supported it, because it's one of the latest phones, but of course, it doesn't. Thankfully I still haven't activated the eSIM, but the "migration" from normal SIM still cost me 10€ so I'm kinda frustrated.
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Read some time ago that the Z Fold 2 didn't have eSIM support out of the box but they enabled it via software update. Would this be possible with the Zenfone 7 Pro? Like a dumbass I automatically assumed that the ZF7Pro supported it, because it's one of the latest phones, but of course, it doesn't. Thankfully I still haven't activated the eSIM, but the "migration" from normal SIM still cost me 10€ so I'm kinda frustrated.
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No, the phone itself needs a special hardware to accommodate eSIM's information, and it is an optional hardware that manufacturers can choose or choose not to included it in their phones.
For the Z Fold 2's case, Samsung has already baked that hardware inside the Fold 2 and launched it when software for eSIM still wasn't ready at the time of launch.
Good evening. I bought the note 20 ultra (SM-N986U1) how can I activate ESIM because it does not work as an option. thanks .
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Good evening. I bought the note 20 ultra (SM-N986U1) how can I activate ESIM because it does not work as an option. thanks .
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You can't. It's disabled.
Disabled on all U and U1 models. No way to enable it manually.
adrikos23 said:
Good evening. I bought the note 20 ultra (SM-N986U1) how can I activate ESIM because it does not work as an option. thanks .
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Send an email to Samsung, I'm doing the same. This is ridiculous that a Flag-ship phone that costs $1500 has ESIM disabled for USA models
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Send an email to Samsung, I'm doing the same. This is ridiculous that a Flag-ship phone that costs $1500 has ESIM disabled for USA models
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You're an intelligent lad, why do you think Samsung did this ?
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You're an intelligent lad, why do you think Samsung did this ?
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My guess would be carrier pressure, but then they're not an up and coming startup cellphone manufacturer so if Google and Apple can have ESIM enabled, they should do it as well.
Also they promised ESIM in future update for S20 USA model which has not yet happened with no explanation from Samsung.
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My guess would be carrier pressure, but then they're not an up and coming startup cellphone manufacturer so if Google and Apple can have ESIM enabled, they should do it as well.
Also they promised ESIM in future update for S20 USA model which has not yet happened with no explanation from Samsung.
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It's carrier pressure, they did this to appease their major usa carrier clients. Whereas Apple stuck a middle finger at them. Oneplus eventually did the same and enabled dual sim functionality, but they are small fish in sales volume in the NA market compared to Samsung.
Unfortunately like you mentioned the s20 still hasn't got dual sim functionality and I very much doubt that they ever will. All eyes will be on the next generation S series for the NA market, in relation to their stance on this matter.
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It's carrier pressure, they did this to appease their major usa carrier clients. Whereas Apple stuck a middle finger at them. Oneplus eventually did the same and enabled dual sim functionality, but they are small fish in sales volume in the NA market compared to Samsung.
Unfortunately like you mentioned the s20 still hasn't got dual sim functionality and I very much doubt that they ever will. All eyes will be on the next generation S series for the NA market, in relation to their stance on this matter.
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True, I hope with more people voicing their opinion regarding ESIM directly to Samsung, they'll change their stance.
We got them to do it to unlock bootloader a few years back at least for a few years that was going well so let's hope this will work...
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Yes I have contacted with Samsung Help Center it cut be activated but now there is't this futures. Sorry
I was considering buying the Fold Z 3 until i read below links dual and esim are not available in US. Wondering might I be able to use the watch 4 as a possible work around would I be able to have the watch set to one number and then automatically forward calls and txts to the fold so I wouldn't have to carry around 2 phones ?
Does that sound like a reliable work around ?
Galaxy Z Fold 3 has two physical SIM slots and an eSIM (but not in the US)
The Galaxy Z Fold 3 brings plenty of big upgrades over the Galaxy Z Fold 2, and even more so ...
www.sammobile.com
https://www.pcmag.com/news/samsungs-z-flip-3-z-fold-3-are-both-single-sim-in-the-us
Not a Samsung expert here, but for my OnePlus device I had to buy an aftermarket sim tray then I got dual sim working. Maybe it will work that way for Samsung?
It must be a us thing, as my wife's z flip 3 has a nano sim on one number and an esim for work number, and both work just fine. As for watch on another number, it does technically get its own number, but its usually linked to a phones actual number, so it will get the calls and sms from the linked number appear on it. Or at least that's how it is in the UK here.
Members in my telegram stated that Watch4 esim must be supported by the service provider specifically...
I have Verizon I cannot find any info about eSIM on watches.
If anyone got one early from Amazon or Best Buy:
- Can you please let me know it activated on Verizon?
AT&T started using e-sim since the original Samsung Galaxy Watch. I had LTE versions of both Watch and Watch 3. AT&T uses a feature called Number Sync, which enable the network to start by calling your cellular number then if no answer, the network would follow the call to your watch number. Keep in mind that this is pertaining to e-sim on LTE enabled watches and not cellphone.
My TMobile Digits works fine with the Galaxy Watch 4 esim... as it did with my prior Active 2 & Galaxy Watch.
Dante63 said:
Members in my telegram stated that Watch4 esim must be supported by the service provider specifically...
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Can you let me know telegram group
Its not whether the phone supports its, your local network provider must also support the feature.
Works fine for me. I use TMobile, with SIM card on my Oneplus & esim in Watch4. Works fine through Digits. Though esim has a number associated with it but I have the choice to use that number or the one on my Oneplus.
I just got the Galaxy watch yesterday and trying to set up a data plan for it through Verizon. Does anyone have an idea if that's possible with the OnePlus 9 pro phone? Verizon tech support said it's not possible, but I have a feeling that it can be done. Please let me know if you have any suggestions for me.
If it is LTE and is compatible with Verizon's network, then yes. It would be a separate data only line on your account. You need to talk to Verizon's sales support not tech support.
I haven't checked. Still im 99% sure Verizon offers esim. What company DOESNT offer esim in 2022?
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If it is LTE and is compatible with Verizon's network, then yes. It would be a separate data only line on your account. You need to talk to Verizon's sales support not tech support.
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Verizon does not offer a stand alone plan for the GW4. They did for the Active 1 and Active 2.
With the GW4 they only support "number share". To use number share you must have a Verizon phone.
Same situation here. Have a GW4 and a OnePlus 9 Pro and cannot use the LTE in the watch.
There is no technical reason why the GW4 won't do standalone. There is also no reason why a OnePlus 9 Pro can't do number share.
The decision were made by bean counters.
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Verizon does not offer a stand alone plan for the GW4. They did for the Active 1 and Active 2.
With the GW4 they only support "number share". To use number share you must have a Verizon phone.
Same situation here. Have a GW4 and a OnePlus 9 Pro and cannot use the LTE in the watch.
There is no technical reason why the GW4 won't do standalone. There is also no reason why a OnePlus 9 Pro can't do number share.
The decision were made by bean counters.
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Are you a Verizon customer? I am. You have to add a line, it is a data only line. I know this because I just checked with Verizon.
If the OP's watch is compatible with Verizon's LTE, all he needs to do is add a line to his account for the watch. He has to talk a sales rep, not a tech support rep.
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Are you a Verizon customer? I am. You have to add a line, it is a data only line. I know this because I just checked with Verizon.
If the OP's watch is compatible with Verizon's LTE, all he needs to do is add a line to his account for the watch. He has to talk a sales rep, not a tech support rep.
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I have been a Verizon customer since it was called GTEMobilnet (look it up).
You are right all you do is add a line and specify that line for "number share". They will not allow a standalone plan for a Galaxy Watch 4.
Number share does not work for a OnePlus 9 Pro. I have been down this road with Verizon multiple times when the watch was released. I have the exact problem that OP has.
It is not solvable unless Verizon changes it's policy for the Galaxy Watch.
Repeat after me; "It is not possible right now and may never be."
You can also look at reddit and see how frustrating it is to others.