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Hey guys, so I was exploring purchasing a Mi Mix 3 on Aliexpress for use in the United States. However, I had some concerns about usage in the United States, especially with the international version. Could someone please tell me about their experience with this phone in the United States, including carrier signal (preferably T Mobile), any issues you've come across using this phone in the United States, and other similar dilemmas. Thanks!
Its name Global Version for a reason, so i think it will work fine all around the world, IF its a true Global Edition.
Check carefully, many seller flash the global/eu rom on CN variant and sell them as "Global Edition".
It will work internationally whether it's a global edition or not, there's no difference in the bands between the Chinese and Global variants. The software is different, however. The Chinese software works fine in the US, but you have a bit of work to do to get the Google apps on it. The other issue is if the seller is buying the Chinese variant then loading the Global software and relocking the bootloader, because if you subsequently install an official update, you will hard-brick your device. Having said that, I can't think of any reason why sellers would be bothering with that now that the Global version is readily available, at least the more reputable ones. Gearbest always clearly mark their devices on the website as either Chinese or Global. I suppose if you wanted to be absolutely sure, you could buy from a European retailer, assuming you don't want the 8/256 model. The other option, of course, is to unlock the bootloader and (optionally) install an unofficial rom, that way you also get regular Android security updates.
I would recommend spending the extra to get the 8/256 if there is any chance you are going to get a "chinese" version. The "global" version is *supposed* to have all the bands enabled on all storage/ram configurations. However, the chinese version only has full band support on the 8/256 device. It is possible that we may be able to find a way to use QXDM and stuff to enable additional bands regardless, but I wouldn't count on that. I spent the extra to get an 8/256 which now has the leaked global rom on it. The global software works great and I have atleast equivalent coverage to my work Pixel 2 XL, usually with slightly better signal levels.
I have no complaints about this device, the only thing I have noticed is it seems that the glass is not as hard on some units. I bought my wife an 8/256 device and she is not exactly gentle on her device. Her screen has no scratches, but mine has many already after about 2 months, and I'm pretty careful with my devices. And to be clear, these are light surface scratches that are only visible when tilting the device with the screen off, not something you can see with the screen on.
I have T Mobile. I get better reception on Mi Mix 3 than I got on both my Note 8 and my iPhone 7. I know this because there's a spot I park every day and the MiMix works there when the others didn't.
I got 96mbps on 4G LTE when I tested it.
Of note: I did have an original MiMix 1 and it was not good for reception. At all. But the 3 has something like 42 bands in, and it has the best reception of any phone I've had.
PWn3R said:
I would recommend spending the extra to get the 8/256 if there is any chance you are going to get a "chinese" version. The "global" version is *supposed* to have all the bands enabled on all storage/ram configurations. However, the chinese version only has full band support on the 8/256 device. It is possible that we may be able to find a way to use QXDM and stuff to enable additional bands regardless, but I wouldn't count on that. I spent the extra to get an 8/256 which now has the leaked global rom on it. The global software works great and I have atleast equivalent coverage to my work Pixel 2 XL, usually with slightly better signal levels.
I have no complaints about this device, the only thing I have noticed is it seems that the glass is not as hard on some units. I bought my wife an 8/256 device and she is not exactly gentle on her device. Her screen has no scratches, but mine has many already after about 2 months, and I'm pretty careful with my devices. And to be clear, these are light surface scratches that are only visible when tilting the device with the screen off, not something you can see with the screen on.
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So I just want to confirm. If I buy a mix 3 in China and then flash itd to a global ROM (e.g. EU) then I should have no issues using it in the US (I'll be on T-Mobile).
There is a serious problem to me not sure if it's because of Mi MIX or TMobile combination (Los Angeles area)
Same problem on my wife's MIX 2S and my MIX 3, both official global version and latest firmware.
When the phone is on wifi, even though the mobile connection looks connected, it might have been disconnected actually.
No call and message will come through. People's calls will go to voice mail.
You will not know that until someone tell you they can't call you on the phone, or when turning off wifi suddently all missing text/MMS messages will arrive.
I'm still searching on more information on this and if some others have the same issue.
One of you friends used to have similar issues using a Samsung Galaxy on TMobile before he switched to iPhone.
Working great here in MN on T-Mobile no issues at all. I have the global edition.
It works for the most part on Verizon (a carrier which doesn't technically support it), the only issues I have are with MMS messaging (which is fixed in another thread) and my mobile hotspot which Verizon seems to be unable to turn on properly. Other than that I haven't had any issues. I would imagine on a GSM carrier like T-Mobile you would see even fewer problems, if any.
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It works for the most part on Verizon (a carrier which doesn't technically support it), the only issues I have are with MMS messaging (which is fixed in another thread) and my mobile hotspot which Verizon seems to be unable to turn on properly. Other than that I haven't had any issues. I would imagine on a GSM carrier like T-Mobile you would see even fewer problems, if any.
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How did you get it to work with Verizon? I entered my IMEI and it isn't compatible.
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How did you get it to work with Verizon? I entered my IMEI and it isn't compatible.
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All you need to do is pop in a Verizon SIM card and change the APN settings and it'll work. Sometimes the SIM card won't let you change them (because Verizon locks them down), but that didn't happen to me. If that's the case, grab someone else's SIM card that has like T-Mobile, put it in your phone, add a new APN, then put the Verizon one back in and select the APN you made. I detailed the settings you need to set in these posts: _1_, _2_. If you need any additional help let me know.
Also, if you want to enable VoLTE check out this thread.
I currently have the Pixel 2. Am looking for an upgrade!
There aren't too many phones on the Verizon network in the US that allow an unlockable bootloader. I am hopeful that the newest OnePlus phone will. Does anyone have any information to confirm or deny that this phone will be available on Verizon with full 4G function?
Thanks!
I'm hoping too, want to replace my P3XL with something that has a larger screen, but hate Samsung's UI. Fingers crossed!! I believe the leaked "specs" on the Oppo site last week showed it as having the proper bands, BUT as we all know it has to be allowed by Verizon before we can really use it
I bought a unlocked oneplus 6t and put my sim card from Verizon in it but had no call service so I went to the verizon store and asked them about it I told them that the bootloader was unlocked they said don't care so the gave me a new sim card still no go so they let me talk to a tech guy they did some stuff and bam it was up and running. So I hope we can do it with the 7 pro on Verizon.
I would be coming from pixel 2 XL. Bought the non carrier specific variant from Google store, not from Verizon, and put my SIM card in it, and it works great on Verizon's network, without the locked down bootloader. I'm hoping the same can be done with this device. Looks very tempting as an upgrade.
I am in the same boat, this device based on a few of the leaks I've seen and concepts, looks absolutely amazing. I completely forgot OnePlus is not compatible with Verizon and although I am not hopeful the new release will support Verizon's bands, I would buy this device 100% if Verizon supports it. :fingers-crossed:
I'm hoping we can believe the pre-order Oppo page as it lists all the same bands as the 6T..........problem is, there is the same typo in the list of bands as on the 6T page so I'm guessing they just copy/pasted. So we still don't know for sure.
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I am in the same boat, this device based on a few of the leaks I've seen and concepts, looks absolutely amazing. I completely forgot OnePlus is not compatible with Verizon and although I am not hopeful the new release will support Verizon's bands, I would buy this device 100% if Verizon supports it. :fingers-crossed:
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The onplus 6T introduced verizon compatibility, I find it hard to believe the next one wouldn't support it.
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The onplus 6T introduced verizon compatibility, I find it hard to believe the next one wouldn't support it.
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Precisely - why would OnePlus want to shoot itself in the foot? Breaking Verizon compatibility with the 7 Pro would, in fact, be doing exactly that. To be honest, merely the 3a (if not the 3a XL) are rather large (pardon the pun)
problems for the 7 Pro as it is - and for me, Verizon compatibility is not an issue at all - I'm on the T-Mobile half of Tracfone, and I'm not looking to go anywhere (I'm quite happy where I am service-wise).
Problem #1 - Neither Pixel 3a has a Notch. (At all.) That can't be said of the OnePlus 7 Pro - or 6T, for that matter. Even the 3a XL is - straight-up - $479 (migrating without trade-in (Just Black)). Cheaper than the 7 Pro or 6T, or any Samsung phone (that includes the S9, or even Note 9 - both of which would stick me with a notch). While I would not *mind* OneUI, I don't like being stuck with a notch. OneUI is not the problem; the notch, however, is.
Problem #2 - There *is* such a thing as Too Much Phone, What features do you *yourself* actually *use* on your phone? The very reason why I don't look for wireless charging is that I have it *now* (the S7 Snapdragon phones - such as my S7 - support it) - do I use it? No - therefore, why do I need it? USB charging - which the Pixel 3a and 3a XL, like my S7, has today - is supported - and is a feature I use.. The camera - even, if not especially in any flagship - and this *does* include the Pixel 3a/XL - is overkill, to put it bluntly. Why overpay for a feature I would barely use? (And I don't take selfies - at all.)
How do you figure that the 7 pro has a notch? Pretty sure that's its big draw is that it doesn't have a notch or cutout of any sort.
True, Pro has no notch!
foamerman said:
I bought a unlocked oneplus 6t and put my sim card from Verizon in it but had no call service so I went to the verizon store and asked them about it I told them that the bootloader was unlocked they said don't care so the gave me a new sim card still no go so they let me talk to a tech guy they did some stuff and bam it was up and running. So I hope we can do it with the 7 pro on Verizon.
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He probably added the APN for Verizon. You have to do that when you put in a new SIM sometimes.
Livestream over.......and we still don't know. No mention of Verizon
UPDATE: Gizmodo says it'll work on all carriers except Sprint.....: https://gizmodo.com/oneplus-7-pro-review-stunning-all-screen-design-thats-1834738811
Two places now saying it'll work with Verizon
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/14/...ile-announcement-release-price-specs-features
and
https://oneplus.gadgethacks.com/news/everything-you-need-know-about-oneplus-7-pro-0195362/
I think it's confirmed to be working with Verizon on their website, also now I'm kinda considering waiting because OnePlus may release an even more beefier version later in the year.
Also with the pricing, Flagship Killer has become just another Flagship device.
One Plus confirmed by chat with me it will work with Verizon in the US
Cowbell_Guy said:
I currently have the Pixel 2. Am looking for an upgrade!
There aren't too many phones on the Verizon network in the US that allow an unlockable bootloader. I am hopeful that the newest OnePlus phone will. Does anyone have any information to confirm or deny that this phone will be available on Verizon with full 4G function?
Thanks!
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I am using the OnePlus 7 Pro on Verizon with no issues .
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millerd79 said:
I am using the OnePlus 7 Pro on Verizon with no issues .
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
I just moved to T-mobile and got mine today
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
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Don't think so, according to OnePlus website it has cdma bands but even if it has to be registered as cdma-less it's no big deal. 6T worked flawlessly on verizon's network! And yes the OnePlus website confirms it works on Verizon!
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
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If this is the first CDMA-less device on your Verizon number, yes I believe you will need to chat/call VZW. I won't need to since it was already set up for my 6t for the SIM I'll use in my 7 Pro. I think it's based on the number, not the account as I have other family on my plan that have CDMA radios.
I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
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Master K
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.
OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
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The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.
Markeee said:
I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5
mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.
Hello everyone,
I have a Mi A3. Lasted update was August on Android 11. Google Pixel is not officially supported in Romania and I was wandering if I will get one, will I be able to make 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE to run in the future using root and custom rom?
I am at the point when I would ditch Android and buy a cheaper Iphone (SE or 11) just to get rid of the Android problems.
I really don't have time anymore to test different builds but, if there is a way to activate in the future I would seriously consider the 6a.
Before the A3 I had Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 and so on. I don't want to buy a Samsung Android just to have the options mentioned above. Thank you!
natzy85 said:
I am at the point when I would ditch Android and buy a cheaper Iphone (SE or 11) just to get rid of the Android problems.
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Go ahead then, buy an iPhone
What "Android problems" are you referring to?
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Go ahead then, buy an iPhone
What "Android problems" are you referring to?
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all sorts of bugs, for example right now my Mi A 3 won't start the assistant via voice command.
A lot of times the phone will block while charging and I would miss the alarm in the morning.
Not to mention battery drain, I now use the phone with battery saver activated all the time to last a day, and the battery has 4030 mAh.
I know I will miss Android for the customization part, and if there is a chance I can enable 5G and voice over Wifi in the future, I am going to get the 6a.
But my main grip is with the OS, my wife has Iphone and I didn't see any bugs. Although I never had a Pixel before, I was hoping to be a very stable system, but what I'm reading worries me a lot.
natzy85 said:
all sorts of bugs, for example right now my Mi A 3 won't start the assistant via voice command.
A lot of times the phone will block while charging and I would miss the alarm in the morning.
I know I will miss Android for the customization part, and if there is a chance I can enable 5G and voice over Wifi in the future, I am going to get the 6a.
But my main grip is with the OS, my wife has Iphone and I didn't see any bugs. Although I never had a Pixel before, I was hoping to be a very stable system, but what I'm reading worries me a lot.
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Keep in mind, that you're comparing a super cheap budget Android phone (that even runs a stripped down version of AOSP) to an iPhone, that I'm sure cost at least three times the price of your A3.
The 6a is supposed to have one extra year of official software support than the iPhone 11, but you mentioned flashing custom ROMs, so I'm assuming it's not a huge dealbreaker for you. I'm not sure how much you could get an iPhone 11 or a 6a for. If you want a truly "bugless" experience, and it's not a lot more expensive, go for the iPhone, but don't upgrade to iOS 16, cuz it's as buggy as all previous Android versions combined
AFAIK, 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE all depend on the carrier you're using. I live in Hungary, got the 6a from Germany. I see the options for all of these in the settings, but my carrier doesn't support any of them, so I can't actually test them, unfortunately.
Regarding 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE and custom ROMs.. That's all up to developers. There's nothing preventing these phones from having any of these features when running a custom ROM.
The reviews and videos made on the 6a after release also had me worried a lot, I even started this thread on xda before purchasing the device, should you be interested in reading up more on about it.
I have been using the phone for about 3 weeks now, upgraded to A13 (no root or custom ROMs so far), and it's been working pretty much flawlessly. Fingerprint reader misses about as often as the rear-mounted reader did on the 4a. The display is super nice, no choppiness at all. Never had the system hung up so far. Photos/videos and image processing is excellent and incredibly fast.
The only thing I can complain about is the speakers; lacks bass (at least compared to the 4a).
tl;dr: I wouldn't be too worried about dealbreaking bugs. Google is going to support the 6a for 5 years, with feature drops every 3 months. If you can get it for less than its full price, it's a no brainer in my opinion.
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Keep in mind, that you're comparing a super cheap budget Android phone (that even runs a stripped down version of AOSP) to an iPhone, that I'm sure cost at least three times the price of your A3.
The 6a is supposed to have one extra year of official software support than the iPhone 11, but you mentioned flashing custom ROMs, so I'm assuming it's not a huge dealbreaker for you. I'm not sure how much you could get an iPhone 11 or a 6a for. If you want a truly "bugless" experience, and it's not a lot more expensive, go for the iPhone, but don't upgrade to iOS 16, cuz it's as buggy as all previous Android versions combined
AFAIK, 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE all depend on the carrier you're using. I live in Hungary, got the 6a from Germany. I see the options for all of these in the settings, but my carrier doesn't support any of them, so I can't actually test them, unfortunately.
Regarding 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE and custom ROMs.. That's all up to developers. There's nothing preventing these phones from having any of these features when running a custom ROM.
The reviews and videos made on the 6a after release also had me worried a lot, I even started this thread on xda before purchasing the device, should you be interested in reading up more on about it.
I have been using the phone for about 3 weeks now, upgraded to A13 (no root or custom ROMs so far), and it's been working pretty much flawlessly. Fingerprint reader misses about as often as the rear-mounted reader did on the 4a. The display is super nice, no choppiness at all. Never had the system hung up so far. Photos/videos and image processing is excellent and incredibly fast.
The only thing I can complain about is the speakers; lacks bass (at least compared to the 4a).
tl;dr: I wouldn't be too worried about dealbreaking bugs. Google is going to support the 6a for 5 years, with feature drops every 3 months. If you can get it for less than its full price, it's a no brainer in my opinion.
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Thank you very much for the reply. I am from Romania and from what I have read, also all the carrier here doesn't support Google.
I really think I will get the 6a. I will give Android one more try . Reading the thread you created.
About the price, at first Amazon.de was the cheapest, now we also have in Romania stores with more or less the same. price I still don't want to spend a lot of money on a mobile phone, but the prices on all of them this year has gone very high.
natzy85 said:
from what I have read, also all the carrier here don't support Google.
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It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
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now we also have in Romania stores with more or less the same.
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There are also some stores in Hungary since the release of the Pixel 6 that sell Google phones. If it wasn't for the trade-in program, I would have gotten my 6a from someplace in Hungary.
Do you have Alza in Romania? They sell the 6a, and also for a rather good price.
Lada333 said:
It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
There are also some stores in Hungary since the release of the Pixel 6 that sell Google phones. If it wasn't for the trade-in program, I would have gotten my 6a from someplace in Hungary.
Do you have Alza in Romania? They sell the 6a, and also for a rather good price.
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unfortunately now, we don't have Alza.
natzy85 said:
unfortunately now, we don't have Alza.
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That's not the end of the world, I guess. As long as you can buy it from a store that's semi reputable, you'll likely have no issues.
Make sure to go for a store that likely won't close down in a few years, because if you need to get your device fixed under warranty, you'll have to contact your Point Of Sale instead of Google.
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That's not the end of the world, I guess. As long as you can buy it from a store that's semi reputable, you'll likely have no issues.
Make sure to go for a store that likely won't close down in a few years, because if you need to get your device fixed under warranty, you'll have to contact your Point Of Sale instead of Google.
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thank you. I will. The problem is like with all the Nexus phones, the replacement parts are expensive compared to Apple. At least that is the case here, in Romania.
Lada333 said:
It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
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but in this case 5g is supported by the phone and carrier but it doesn't work. I read somewhere that they have to enable some parameters for Pixel phones to work.
natzy85 said:
thank you. I will. The problem is like with all the Nexus phones, the replacement parts are expensive compared to Apple. At least that is the case here, in Romania.
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I'm not familiar with any replacement parts; luckily I've never had to replace anything on my Pixels so far.
What I used to do with my previous phones was to just order the parts on eBay (or similar sites), and bring them in to whatever local GSM store.
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but in this case 5g is supported by the phone and carrier but it doesn't work. I read somewhere that they have to enable some parameters for Pixel phones to work.
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Again, I'm not sure how this works, but I doubt that's the case. Be sure to check with your provider.
Lada333 said:
Again, I'm not sure how this works, but I doubt that's the case. Be sure to check with your provider.
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Pixel 6 VoLTE
Eu am avut doar telefoane de la Google seria Pixel pentru că sunt foarte reușite. Telefoanele sunt capabile de VoLTE dar pentru asta trebuie să fie înregistrat și telefonul la providerul respectiv. De atâtia ani de când există aceste telefoane se pare că Orange nu s-a ocupat de asta și...
comunitate.orange.ro
Orange needs to get certificates from Google, and once it gets certified, it will be able to modify that neighborhood settings that will eventually modify that build.prop file that allows access to 5G, VoLTE and VoWIFI. The fact that we do not have these services is Orange Romania's fault. For the fact that Google has implemented this stupid process that puts users at the mercy of operators, Google is to blame. In the phone settings there is a Carrier settings section. The last update was on 30.09.2021, about 2 months before the launch of the Pixel 6 series.
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Orange needs to get certificates from Google
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TIL. That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while
What's their reasoning behind this lmao? Or is it how it works with all devices, it's just that supported phones get added to the list way before they're released to the public?
From what I know this is with all carriers in Romania, you cannot have 5G with Pixel even with Vodafone or any carrier.
Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
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sundamen said:
Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
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so I finally ordered 6a, I'm now waiting. Does this work also with the 6a?
natzy85 said:
so I finally ordered 6a, I'm now waiting. Does this work also with the 6a?
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Yes!
Google delivers Android 13 December 2022 update for Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro
Google has announced a major feature update for Pixel smartphones running Android 13. As of the December 2022 update, the likes of the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro support a dedicated reader mode and can share digital car keys with other compatible smartphones, among other changes.
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I put mine on the beta channel release. Coming from a P6P, using straight talk, it would not accept the sim.
Called Straight talk, which was useless. They said I had to buy a new sim card. Saw on a thread here that the
beta channel rom fixed it. Sure enough! After reboot, the sim card worked!
I was expecting 5g update, disappointing...
Nothing here. UK Sim free.
eagledipesh said:
I was expecting 5g update, disappointing...
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I wouldn't hold your breath. They either chose horrible hardware, don't know how to fix it, or won't because we will buy a new Pixel. With that being said, I actually think that the 7 Pro is an improvement over the 6 pro. My battery and performance is dramatically improved because of the updated Tensor chip and I don't have the cell standby bug that plagued me in the 6 pro.
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This isn't the full release notes.
That article from notebookcheck.net referencing the Google Blog only concerns the "Android Feature Update", which is for GMS Android users. There is also a "Pixel Feature Drop" which Pixel users will likely get tomorrow. Plus there will likely be other "fixes" and whatnot.
biggiesmalls657 said:
I wouldn't hold your breath. They either chose horrible hardware, don't know how to fix it, or won't because we will buy a new Pixel. With that being said, I actually think that the 7 Pro is an improvement over the 6 pro. My battery and performance is dramatically improved because of the updated Tensor chip and I don't have the cell standby bug that plagued me in the 6 pro.
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Unfortunately for me the bug still exists P7P. I am not sure if different hardware release have different modems. But my phone is useless at the moment.
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Unfortunately for me the bug still exists P7P. I am not sure if different hardware release have different modems. But my phone is useless at the moment.
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What's your setup? I'm rooted custom kernel and 1 ESIM using Xfinity Mobile. I also didn't restore settings with 6 pro backup. I flashed BL and modem before clean flashing stock to root
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What's your setup? I'm rooted custom kernel and 1 ESIM using Xfinity Mobile. I also didn't restore settings with 6 pro backup. I flashed BL and modem before clean flashing stock to root
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I am in 5G unsupported country and I am using physical SIM I have tried to disable DSDS but it didn't seem to stick. I have tried with stock and beta QPR1 same result. Which custom kernel would you recommend? I think the issue is with the radio and the Samsung Shannon 5300G. I am not sure if there is a radio firmware I could try.
"I am in 5G unsupported country"
I fail to understand the complaints from people who live in "unsupported" countries!
Why would you even consider buying ANY phone that is unsupported in any way?
The fault is yours not Googles! YMMV
jaseman said:
"I am in 5G unsupported country"
I fail to understand the complaints from people who live in "unsupported" countries!
Why would you even consider buying ANY phone that is unsupported in any way?
The fault is yours not Googles! YMMV
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Probably because they wanted a pixel but Google only officially sells phones in like 4 countries (exaggerating but probably not by much). I want phones available outside of the USA all the time but my wonderful carrier (verizon) and to a degree the other carriers as well suck and want big money to certify the ability to use their towers (bands). Stuck mainly with iSheep, Samdung, One Plus (already settled) and Google (constant hardware problems).
It will be difficult for me to make you understand anything since you fail to understand simple things like why anyone would pick a Google phone instead of another brand. Anyway I had Nexus and Pixel phones in the past and they have worked just fine. I was very well aware 5G and VoLTE don't work and I was not after these features. I would be perfectly fine with just 4G. Mine Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 2 XL worked flawlessly. I might have a faulty hardware I am not sure at this point. If you could not help me at least don't blame me for my choices, the money I have spent are mine not yours. Like I have said I know since the beginning some of the feature would not work and this was a risk I was willing to take since I wanted a "clean" android and rootable + unlocked bootloader (there are not many phone manufacturers offering such features). I was not expecting the Pixel to not support any well established telecom standards. Aside from that I live in Europe and I bought the phone from neighboring country. It is not from Japan or US/Canada with different bands.
@xpact , it might be your phone or possibly faulty modem hardware. I am in the US using the 7P7 (rooted, unlocked) without any issues (I keep 5G off) 99% of the time. Once in a while I have to restart my phone or turn airplane mode on and off because I would randomly lose service. Its pretty rare though and even less now after the November update.
Question for the group and I hope I'm in the right spot. I got my 7 pro last week. So I went to the Factory image page. I'm on Verizon so I took the verzon update. Now I see a update just for global. Should I wait on the Verizon or can I just install the global one? I'm new to Pixel experience.
foamerman said:
Question for the group and I hope I'm in the right spot. I got my 7 pro last week. So I went to the Factory image page. I'm on Verizon so I took the verzon update. Now I see a update just for global. Should I wait on the Verizon or can I just install the global one? I'm new to Pixel experience.
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You can install the global one.
foamerman said:
Question for the group and I hope I'm in the right spot. I got my 7 pro last week. So I went to the Factory image page. I'm on Verizon so I took the verzon update. Now I see a update just for global. Should I wait on the Verizon or can I just install the global one? I'm new to Pixel experience.
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I bought the unlocked P7P from Google and Verizon is my carrier. I have only been flashing the generic firmware to avoid VZW bloatware as much as possible. I haven't had any issues.
xpact said:
It will be difficult for me to make you understand anything since you fail to understand simple things like why anyone would pick a Google phone instead of another brand. Anyway I had Nexus and Pixel phones in the past and they have worked just fine. I was very well aware 5G and VoLTE don't work and I was not after these features. I would be perfectly fine with just 4G. Mine Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 2 XL worked flawlessly. I might have a faulty hardware I am not sure at this point. If you could not help me at least don't blame me for my choices, the money I have spent are mine not yours. Like I have said I know since the beginning some of the feature would not work and this was a risk I was willing to take since I wanted a "clean" android and rootable + unlocked bootloader (there are not many phone manufacturers offering such features). I was not expecting the Pixel to not support any well established telecom standards. Aside from that I live in Europe and I bought the phone from neighboring country. It is not from Japan or US/Canada with different bands.
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I'm in Europe too and have the p7p from Germany, all works fine, no faulty hardware at all. Where did you buy your phone? I'm on stock firmware but had rooted it and there was also no problems, I often think to myself wtf you are always doing with your phones?
Thanks guys. I'm off to see the Wizard.
Gerr1 said:
I'm in Europe too and have the p7p from Germany, all works fine, no faulty hardware at all. Where did you buy your phone? I'm on stock firmware but had rooted it and there was also no problems, I often think to myself wtf you are always doing with your phones?
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I bought it from Germany as well ) The previous pixel I had I bought it from UK and the Nexus 6P from UK as well. But the ones from UK I did not bought on first date but few months after they might had different hardware modem revisions.