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Verizon Availability?

I currently have the Pixel 2. Am looking for an upgrade!
There aren't too many phones on the Verizon network in the US that allow an unlockable bootloader. I am hopeful that the newest OnePlus phone will. Does anyone have any information to confirm or deny that this phone will be available on Verizon with full 4G function?
Thanks!

I'm hoping too, want to replace my P3XL with something that has a larger screen, but hate Samsung's UI. Fingers crossed!! I believe the leaked "specs" on the Oppo site last week showed it as having the proper bands, BUT as we all know it has to be allowed by Verizon before we can really use it

I bought a unlocked oneplus 6t and put my sim card from Verizon in it but had no call service so I went to the verizon store and asked them about it I told them that the bootloader was unlocked they said don't care so the gave me a new sim card still no go so they let me talk to a tech guy they did some stuff and bam it was up and running. So I hope we can do it with the 7 pro on Verizon.

I would be coming from pixel 2 XL. Bought the non carrier specific variant from Google store, not from Verizon, and put my SIM card in it, and it works great on Verizon's network, without the locked down bootloader. I'm hoping the same can be done with this device. Looks very tempting as an upgrade.

I am in the same boat, this device based on a few of the leaks I've seen and concepts, looks absolutely amazing. I completely forgot OnePlus is not compatible with Verizon and although I am not hopeful the new release will support Verizon's bands, I would buy this device 100% if Verizon supports it. :fingers-crossed:

I'm hoping we can believe the pre-order Oppo page as it lists all the same bands as the 6T..........problem is, there is the same typo in the list of bands as on the 6T page so I'm guessing they just copy/pasted. So we still don't know for sure.

MisterCoolBeans said:
I am in the same boat, this device based on a few of the leaks I've seen and concepts, looks absolutely amazing. I completely forgot OnePlus is not compatible with Verizon and although I am not hopeful the new release will support Verizon's bands, I would buy this device 100% if Verizon supports it. :fingers-crossed:
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The onplus 6T introduced verizon compatibility, I find it hard to believe the next one wouldn't support it.

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JedixJarf said:
The onplus 6T introduced verizon compatibility, I find it hard to believe the next one wouldn't support it.
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Precisely - why would OnePlus want to shoot itself in the foot? Breaking Verizon compatibility with the 7 Pro would, in fact, be doing exactly that. To be honest, merely the 3a (if not the 3a XL) are rather large (pardon the pun)
problems for the 7 Pro as it is - and for me, Verizon compatibility is not an issue at all - I'm on the T-Mobile half of Tracfone, and I'm not looking to go anywhere (I'm quite happy where I am service-wise).
Problem #1 - Neither Pixel 3a has a Notch. (At all.) That can't be said of the OnePlus 7 Pro - or 6T, for that matter. Even the 3a XL is - straight-up - $479 (migrating without trade-in (Just Black)). Cheaper than the 7 Pro or 6T, or any Samsung phone (that includes the S9, or even Note 9 - both of which would stick me with a notch). While I would not *mind* OneUI, I don't like being stuck with a notch. OneUI is not the problem; the notch, however, is.
Problem #2 - There *is* such a thing as Too Much Phone, What features do you *yourself* actually *use* on your phone? The very reason why I don't look for wireless charging is that I have it *now* (the S7 Snapdragon phones - such as my S7 - support it) - do I use it? No - therefore, why do I need it? USB charging - which the Pixel 3a and 3a XL, like my S7, has today - is supported - and is a feature I use.. The camera - even, if not especially in any flagship - and this *does* include the Pixel 3a/XL - is overkill, to put it bluntly. Why overpay for a feature I would barely use? (And I don't take selfies - at all.)

How do you figure that the 7 pro has a notch? Pretty sure that's its big draw is that it doesn't have a notch or cutout of any sort.

True, Pro has no notch!

foamerman said:
I bought a unlocked oneplus 6t and put my sim card from Verizon in it but had no call service so I went to the verizon store and asked them about it I told them that the bootloader was unlocked they said don't care so the gave me a new sim card still no go so they let me talk to a tech guy they did some stuff and bam it was up and running. So I hope we can do it with the 7 pro on Verizon.
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He probably added the APN for Verizon. You have to do that when you put in a new SIM sometimes.

Livestream over.......and we still don't know. No mention of Verizon
UPDATE: Gizmodo says it'll work on all carriers except Sprint.....: https://gizmodo.com/oneplus-7-pro-review-stunning-all-screen-design-thats-1834738811

Two places now saying it'll work with Verizon
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/14/...ile-announcement-release-price-specs-features
and
https://oneplus.gadgethacks.com/news/everything-you-need-know-about-oneplus-7-pro-0195362/

I think it's confirmed to be working with Verizon on their website, also now I'm kinda considering waiting because OnePlus may release an even more beefier version later in the year.
Also with the pricing, Flagship Killer has become just another Flagship device.

One Plus confirmed by chat with me it will work with Verizon in the US

Cowbell_Guy said:
I currently have the Pixel 2. Am looking for an upgrade!
There aren't too many phones on the Verizon network in the US that allow an unlockable bootloader. I am hopeful that the newest OnePlus phone will. Does anyone have any information to confirm or deny that this phone will be available on Verizon with full 4G function?
Thanks!
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I am using the OnePlus 7 Pro on Verizon with no issues .
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CDMA-Less?
millerd79 said:
I am using the OnePlus 7 Pro on Verizon with no issues .
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Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?

I just moved to T-mobile and got mine today

cavo92 said:
Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
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Don't think so, according to OnePlus website it has cdma bands but even if it has to be registered as cdma-less it's no big deal. 6T worked flawlessly on verizon's network! And yes the OnePlus website confirms it works on Verizon!

cavo92 said:
Does it still have to be registered as CDMA-less on Verizon like the OnePlus 6T?
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If this is the first CDMA-less device on your Verizon number, yes I believe you will need to chat/call VZW. I won't need to since it was already set up for my 6t for the SIM I'll use in my 7 Pro. I think it's based on the number, not the account as I have other family on my plan that have CDMA radios.

Pixel 5/5a and Verizon 5G c-band eventuality

I just noticed this on Google's website (Google support website link). The Pixel 5 has band N77 in the snapdragon 765G, so I believe Verizon c-band will eventually be on this phone.

I have a Pixel 5,but I'm not going to hold my breath on it ever being Certified for C-band and if you bought it from Google like I did I'm thinking it's even less likely to get Certified.

The Pixel 5 has band n77, but as of right now it isn't activated in the modem configuration (verified with Network Signal Guru).
I had assumed that the Pixel 5 would be enabled for C-band, but I was getting concerned after all of the launch info from Verizon only mentioned the Pixel 6 (Pro). Just found this though, so it looks like we will (eventually) get it with a software update!

gwillmer said:
The Pixel 5 has band n77, but as of right now it isn't activated in the modem configuration (verified with Network Signal Guru).
I had assumed that the Pixel 5 would be enabled for C-band, but I was getting concerned after all of the launch info from Verizon only mentioned the Pixel 6 (Pro). Just found this though, so it looks like we will (eventually) get it with a software update!
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That link says it won't be updated via software:
The devices below were manufactured in 2019 and 2020 and can access our 5G Ultra Wideband high-band (mmWave) only. These devices aren't eligible for a software update to enable mid-band (C-Band) access.
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Pixel 4a 5G UW
Pixel 5
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RUGGNATION said:
That link says it won't be updated via software:
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They changed it! It definitely had the Pixel 5 in the first list with the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro. Ugh. Not cool.
Well, I've already been poking around with various Qualcomm tools to see if I can enable it. I'll report back if I have any success.

gwillmer said:
They changed it! It definitely had the Pixel 5 in the first list with the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro. Ugh. Not cool.
Well, I've already been poking around with various Qualcomm tools to see if I can enable it. I'll report back if I have any success.
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Please do follow up if you find anything. Very not cool of them, I just bought a 5 because of that list (before it was updated)...

RUGGNATION said:
Please do follow up if you find anything. Very not cool of them, I just bought a 5 because of that list (before it was updated)...
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Just checking in. It's not actually working yet, but I do at least have it reporting that it's band 77 capable when communicating with the tower. It still isn't actually able to complete the connection though (NSG shows that it briefly switches to NR-NSA, but then immediately back to LTE), so there's still something else missing in the configuration...

(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!

gwillmer said:
(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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How's your testing going so far have you made any progress?

Just saw this today. No plans for C band support for the 765G phones (4a 5g, 5, and 5a).
@gwillmer hasn't been online since 2/11, hope all is well.

V0latyle said:
Just saw this today. No plans for C band support for the 765G phones (4a 5g, 5, and 5a).
@gwillmer hasn't been online since 2/11, hope all is well.
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Do you know if there is a hardware issue that is preventing our phones from using the C band because we have been approved by the FCC but Verizon said they will not push a software update for C band to our phone.

Hi Fellow Pixel 5 owners. I am saddened by the news that recently was released about our phones. I like RUGGNATION bought this phone because on Google's spec sheet it had all the bands required for 5g in the foreseeable future. I was confident that since it was still getting OS and Security updates they would not abandon it as they did. I have been rocking a Nexus 6 and a Pixel XL for years thanks to the LineageOS project. The Pixel 5 is the first phone I have owned in years that is still currently supported. I was planning on flashing LineageOS when Google's support was over. I was willing to pay a bit more for a futureproofish phone. I am sure a lot of other people thought the same. I am thinking about selling it on SellCell since it would just be easier to get a Pixel 6.
I am curious if anyone has any knowledge, or knows anyone that knows about the tools gwillmer was using when he unlocked his modem to work on the C-Band. I would rather root my phone now and install a solution that all Pixel 5 owners can implement if there is any realistic hope for a reasonably easy solution. I am impressed by the work that the developers do to responsibly keep Android phones working longer than the time the manufacturers support them officially. I keep thinking about using an Apple product but am not sure I want to give up the control over my hardware that this and other developer communities provide in the aftermarket.
Let me know if anyone has any hope that we will be able to use this phone on C Band !

manifestor said:
Hi Fellow Pixel 5 owners. I am saddened by the news that recently was released about our phones. I like RUGGNATION bought this phone because on Google's spec sheet it had all the bands required for 5g in the foreseeable future. I was confident that since it was still getting OS and Security updates they would not abandon it as they did. I have been rocking a Nexus 6 and a Pixel XL for years thanks to the LineageOS project. The Pixel 5 is the first phone I have owned in years that is still currently supported. I was planning on flashing LineageOS when Google's support was over. I was willing to pay a bit more for a futureproofish phone. I am sure a lot of other people thought the same. I am thinking about selling it on SellCell since it would just be easier to get a Pixel 6.
I am curious if anyone has any knowledge, or knows anyone that knows about the tools gwillmer was using when he unlocked his modem to work on the C-Band. I would rather root my phone now and install a solution that all Pixel 5 owners can implement if there is any realistic hope for a reasonably easy solution. I am impressed by the work that the developers do to responsibly keep Android phones working longer than the time the manufacturers support them officially. I keep thinking about using an Apple product but am not sure I want to give up the control over my hardware that this and other developer communities provide in the aftermarket.
Let me know if anyone has any hope that we will be able to use this phone on C Band !
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Network Signal Guru is the app that was used and it cost $50 a month to use it. You can download it from the Google Play Store and make the purchase through the app.

gwillmer said:
(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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Hey, are you able to share which files in the EFS you changed? There are a number of files under /Google/ such as *_certified_bands.txt files which have lists of bands per network PLMN (MCC-MNC). Then, then, there are the carrier policies.
I've been trying to get this working on the March update, to no avail. I did see in the hardware NR combinations that 66-2_n77 is at least still supported, I just don't know which EFS file is the culprit in enabling them.
Thanks!

Is the QPST tool going to be the tool to use to look at this?

sammycomelately said:
Is the QPST tool going to be the tool to use to look at this?
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Correct, we'll need to make some changes in the EFS using QPST.

gwillmer said:
(major caveat: a Pixel 5 with root/an unlockable bootloader is required, which unfortunately excludes the Pixel 5 sold by Verizon)
Got it!!! NSG screenshots attached showing a connection on band n77, all supported NR bands for EN-DC (LTE+NR5G), and a speed test.
I need to do more testing before sharing because I definitely changed way more than necessary, and it'll take me a little bit to figure exactly which of the changes are actually required. But it is definitely doable and I'll write instructions up sometime this week(end)!
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Any update?
Can you share what you did to get it? Please share any information it's been quite a while so I don't know what's going on

xian1243 said:
Correct, we'll need to make some changes in the EFS using QPST.
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Did you try the method of editing "generic_band_restrictions.xml" that worked for the OnePlus 9/9Pro users here:
(Updated 5/21/23) How to enable N77 C-Band with 5G UW icon on OnePlus 9/9 Pro 5G (LE2115/LE2125) | Oxygen OS 11-13.1 with Custom ROM support | Verizon
How to enable N77/N78 5G on the LE2115/LE2125 OnePlus 9/9 Pro running Oxygen OS 11-13.1 Before we start, keep in mind the following: Your warranty is now void. I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you...
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I'm not on stock firmware otherwise I'd give it a go.

wintrxtrem said:
Did you try the method of editing "generic_band_restrictions.xml" that worked for the OnePlus 9/9Pro users here:
(Updated 5/21/23) How to enable N77 C-Band with 5G UW icon on OnePlus 9/9 Pro 5G (LE2115/LE2125) | Oxygen OS 11-13.1 with Custom ROM support | Verizon
How to enable N77/N78 5G on the LE2115/LE2125 OnePlus 9/9 Pro running Oxygen OS 11-13.1 Before we start, keep in mind the following: Your warranty is now void. I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you...
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I'm not on stock firmware otherwise I'd give it a go.
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I created this guide, and unfortunately it only works for Oxygen OS 11/Android 11, on Oxygen OS 12/Android 12 and newer it does not, after a while the phone adds back the exclusion of N77, I don't know if this is an Oxygen OS "feature" or an Android 12 "feature" I have not figured out a way on how to make it stick, if anyone has any idea on how to fix it, help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: Well I don't know how, but it seems like I enabled N77 (or N78 idk) on Oxygen OS 13/Android 13 I somewhat have an idea of what I did, so I will create a new guide, however, this does require root.
Picture on the left is Engineering Mode, no idea Stock Android has it, picture on the right is Network Signal Guru. I don't know why NSG shows N77 while Engineering mode shows N78.

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Question 5G and VoWiFi, VoLTE custom rom

Hello everyone,
I have a Mi A3. Lasted update was August on Android 11. Google Pixel is not officially supported in Romania and I was wandering if I will get one, will I be able to make 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE to run in the future using root and custom rom?
I am at the point when I would ditch Android and buy a cheaper Iphone (SE or 11) just to get rid of the Android problems.
I really don't have time anymore to test different builds but, if there is a way to activate in the future I would seriously consider the 6a.
Before the A3 I had Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 and so on. I don't want to buy a Samsung Android just to have the options mentioned above. Thank you!

natzy85 said:
I am at the point when I would ditch Android and buy a cheaper Iphone (SE or 11) just to get rid of the Android problems.
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Go ahead then, buy an iPhone
What "Android problems" are you referring to?

Lada333 said:
Go ahead then, buy an iPhone
What "Android problems" are you referring to?
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all sorts of bugs, for example right now my Mi A 3 won't start the assistant via voice command.
A lot of times the phone will block while charging and I would miss the alarm in the morning.
Not to mention battery drain, I now use the phone with battery saver activated all the time to last a day, and the battery has 4030 mAh.
I know I will miss Android for the customization part, and if there is a chance I can enable 5G and voice over Wifi in the future, I am going to get the 6a.
But my main grip is with the OS, my wife has Iphone and I didn't see any bugs. Although I never had a Pixel before, I was hoping to be a very stable system, but what I'm reading worries me a lot.

natzy85 said:
all sorts of bugs, for example right now my Mi A 3 won't start the assistant via voice command.
A lot of times the phone will block while charging and I would miss the alarm in the morning.
I know I will miss Android for the customization part, and if there is a chance I can enable 5G and voice over Wifi in the future, I am going to get the 6a.
But my main grip is with the OS, my wife has Iphone and I didn't see any bugs. Although I never had a Pixel before, I was hoping to be a very stable system, but what I'm reading worries me a lot.
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Keep in mind, that you're comparing a super cheap budget Android phone (that even runs a stripped down version of AOSP) to an iPhone, that I'm sure cost at least three times the price of your A3.
The 6a is supposed to have one extra year of official software support than the iPhone 11, but you mentioned flashing custom ROMs, so I'm assuming it's not a huge dealbreaker for you. I'm not sure how much you could get an iPhone 11 or a 6a for. If you want a truly "bugless" experience, and it's not a lot more expensive, go for the iPhone, but don't upgrade to iOS 16, cuz it's as buggy as all previous Android versions combined
AFAIK, 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE all depend on the carrier you're using. I live in Hungary, got the 6a from Germany. I see the options for all of these in the settings, but my carrier doesn't support any of them, so I can't actually test them, unfortunately.
Regarding 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE and custom ROMs.. That's all up to developers. There's nothing preventing these phones from having any of these features when running a custom ROM.
The reviews and videos made on the 6a after release also had me worried a lot, I even started this thread on xda before purchasing the device, should you be interested in reading up more on about it.
I have been using the phone for about 3 weeks now, upgraded to A13 (no root or custom ROMs so far), and it's been working pretty much flawlessly. Fingerprint reader misses about as often as the rear-mounted reader did on the 4a. The display is super nice, no choppiness at all. Never had the system hung up so far. Photos/videos and image processing is excellent and incredibly fast.
The only thing I can complain about is the speakers; lacks bass (at least compared to the 4a).
tl;dr: I wouldn't be too worried about dealbreaking bugs. Google is going to support the 6a for 5 years, with feature drops every 3 months. If you can get it for less than its full price, it's a no brainer in my opinion.

Lada333 said:
Keep in mind, that you're comparing a super cheap budget Android phone (that even runs a stripped down version of AOSP) to an iPhone, that I'm sure cost at least three times the price of your A3.
The 6a is supposed to have one extra year of official software support than the iPhone 11, but you mentioned flashing custom ROMs, so I'm assuming it's not a huge dealbreaker for you. I'm not sure how much you could get an iPhone 11 or a 6a for. If you want a truly "bugless" experience, and it's not a lot more expensive, go for the iPhone, but don't upgrade to iOS 16, cuz it's as buggy as all previous Android versions combined
AFAIK, 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE all depend on the carrier you're using. I live in Hungary, got the 6a from Germany. I see the options for all of these in the settings, but my carrier doesn't support any of them, so I can't actually test them, unfortunately.
Regarding 5G, VoWIFi and VoLTE and custom ROMs.. That's all up to developers. There's nothing preventing these phones from having any of these features when running a custom ROM.
The reviews and videos made on the 6a after release also had me worried a lot, I even started this thread on xda before purchasing the device, should you be interested in reading up more on about it.
I have been using the phone for about 3 weeks now, upgraded to A13 (no root or custom ROMs so far), and it's been working pretty much flawlessly. Fingerprint reader misses about as often as the rear-mounted reader did on the 4a. The display is super nice, no choppiness at all. Never had the system hung up so far. Photos/videos and image processing is excellent and incredibly fast.
The only thing I can complain about is the speakers; lacks bass (at least compared to the 4a).
tl;dr: I wouldn't be too worried about dealbreaking bugs. Google is going to support the 6a for 5 years, with feature drops every 3 months. If you can get it for less than its full price, it's a no brainer in my opinion.
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Thank you very much for the reply. I am from Romania and from what I have read, also all the carrier here doesn't support Google.
I really think I will get the 6a. I will give Android one more try . Reading the thread you created.
About the price, at first Amazon.de was the cheapest, now we also have in Romania stores with more or less the same. price I still don't want to spend a lot of money on a mobile phone, but the prices on all of them this year has gone very high.

natzy85 said:
from what I have read, also all the carrier here don't support Google.
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It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
natzy85 said:
now we also have in Romania stores with more or less the same.
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There are also some stores in Hungary since the release of the Pixel 6 that sell Google phones. If it wasn't for the trade-in program, I would have gotten my 6a from someplace in Hungary.
Do you have Alza in Romania? They sell the 6a, and also for a rather good price.

Lada333 said:
It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
There are also some stores in Hungary since the release of the Pixel 6 that sell Google phones. If it wasn't for the trade-in program, I would have gotten my 6a from someplace in Hungary.
Do you have Alza in Romania? They sell the 6a, and also for a rather good price.
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unfortunately now, we don't have Alza.

natzy85 said:
unfortunately now, we don't have Alza.
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That's not the end of the world, I guess. As long as you can buy it from a store that's semi reputable, you'll likely have no issues.
Make sure to go for a store that likely won't close down in a few years, because if you need to get your device fixed under warranty, you'll have to contact your Point Of Sale instead of Google.

Lada333 said:
That's not the end of the world, I guess. As long as you can buy it from a store that's semi reputable, you'll likely have no issues.
Make sure to go for a store that likely won't close down in a few years, because if you need to get your device fixed under warranty, you'll have to contact your Point Of Sale instead of Google.
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thank you. I will. The problem is like with all the Nexus phones, the replacement parts are expensive compared to Apple. At least that is the case here, in Romania.

Lada333 said:
It's not the carrier not supporting Google phones, it's the carrier not supporting the aforementioned features, no? It shouldn't matter (to the carrier) what phone you put your SIM card in. As long as the device has 5G capability, you should just be able to use it.
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but in this case 5g is supported by the phone and carrier but it doesn't work. I read somewhere that they have to enable some parameters for Pixel phones to work.

natzy85 said:
thank you. I will. The problem is like with all the Nexus phones, the replacement parts are expensive compared to Apple. At least that is the case here, in Romania.
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I'm not familiar with any replacement parts; luckily I've never had to replace anything on my Pixels so far.
What I used to do with my previous phones was to just order the parts on eBay (or similar sites), and bring them in to whatever local GSM store.
natzy85 said:
but in this case 5g is supported by the phone and carrier but it doesn't work. I read somewhere that they have to enable some parameters for Pixel phones to work.
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Again, I'm not sure how this works, but I doubt that's the case. Be sure to check with your provider.

Lada333 said:
Again, I'm not sure how this works, but I doubt that's the case. Be sure to check with your provider.
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Pixel 6 VoLTE
Eu am avut doar telefoane de la Google seria Pixel pentru că sunt foarte reușite. Telefoanele sunt capabile de VoLTE dar pentru asta trebuie să fie înregistrat și telefonul la providerul respectiv. De atâtia ani de când există aceste telefoane se pare că Orange nu s-a ocupat de asta și...
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Orange needs to get certificates from Google, and once it gets certified, it will be able to modify that neighborhood settings that will eventually modify that build.prop file that allows access to 5G, VoLTE and VoWIFI. The fact that we do not have these services is Orange Romania's fault. For the fact that Google has implemented this stupid process that puts users at the mercy of operators, Google is to blame. In the phone settings there is a Carrier settings section. The last update was on 30.09.2021, about 2 months before the launch of the Pixel 6 series.

natzy85 said:
Orange needs to get certificates from Google
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TIL. That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while
What's their reasoning behind this lmao? Or is it how it works with all devices, it's just that supported phones get added to the list way before they're released to the public?

From what I know this is with all carriers in Romania, you cannot have 5G with Pixel even with Vodafone or any carrier.

Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
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sundamen said:
Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
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so I finally ordered 6a, I'm now waiting. Does this work also with the 6a?

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so I finally ordered 6a, I'm now waiting. Does this work also with the 6a?
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Yes!

Question Horrible google in Europa. Graphene OS ?

Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP ! Sometimes No SIM detected (of course the SIM is in the phone) ! Can't use internet when you are in a call..
These people talk to phone companies (Orange, Vodafone, Telekom) about this Horrible problems . The answer was that stupid google block this options in these part of the world because they don't give a f*ck about people from these countries.
Could not satisfy google insatiable GREED! for money !
Do you friends have this on your Pixel 7 pro ? If so how do you even use the phone?..
Any of you have Graphene OS on your Pixel 7 pro ? These problems are still threre?
I post this because i want to buy Pixel 7 pro..
Thank you.
Happy new year !!! All the best !

If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.

Meh, don't get me started...
Gookill is the worst. Anything higher than Android 10 sucks. Might as well be Apple now.
Same deal as MS did; Google wants to force you to use cloud rather than expandable storage. All the more user data for them to collect. Google is wholesale spreaders of disinformation, hype, biased censorship, and are highly politically biased/manipulative.
Recommendation; buy a Note 10+ running on Android 9 or 10. No variable refresh rate display but better color/gamma accuracy and calibration. Good cams and up to 1tb expandable storage.
A long lived dependable workhouse that gets good SOT and runs like a bat out of hell. Even though it's 3 yo it keeps pace with the newest flagships for most tasks, only slightly slower and sometimes faster. Almost always gets better SOT. Excellent form factor, balance and build quality. Runs well stock once optimized. If you want to stay stock the Snapdragon variants are the best.

I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.

Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!

I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE, I can use internet when calling and my SIM is always detected. My provider is testing VoIP now, but I'm not interested as I'm on an unlimited 5G plan.
My dialer and camera app work perfectly.
Stock launcher is stock launcher, you have a ton to choose from. If you prefer a wholy stock phone, buy an iPhone.
I suggest to edit title to "Horrible Google in Germany".

It's also not a Germany problem. I have 2 Prepaid Sims in (blau (o2network) and a vodafone callya as esim). For both volte is working without problem, the vodafone one also have 5g, no problems with dialer or anything else....

blackspp said:
Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
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The stock launcher should be fast, stable and very user customizable. One reason I like Samsung's... lol, at least the N10+ as their hardware after this just doesn't hit the mark. The N9 is way too slow to be practical. Pixel's philosophy is sort of one size vanilla fits all and lacks needed customization options in my opinion. Clearly if you need to resort to using a 3rd party launcher Pixel fell short of meeting your needs with this core UI application. *meh*
After Android 10 Google Android went to scoped storage dumb bunny hell. Pie is still my preferred OS. This 3 yo flagship with 3 yo firmware provides a better overall user experience, balance and functionality in my opinion. It's a joy to use and very capable. It's not drowning in needless security protocols or hardware bloat... it just works day after day. Security for me is simply not an issue in real time usage; this load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, stable with no known security breaches. I use a few modifications and practices but nothing too drastic on this stock Android to achieve this. I spend very little time doing maintenance and troubleshooting.
So yeah, not liking Google's or Samsung's constant ball drops. No slam dunks, for years now. Pathetic.

MrBelter said:
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.

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I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
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null0seven said:
NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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So how come the Pixel 5a was only sold in 2 countries if that was genuinly the case?

This topic is a little bit of rage, but to put things into perspective. OP is right at some points. I live in Slovakia and I have had so far:
Pixel 5
Pixel 6
Pixel 6 Pro
Pixel 7
Pixel 7 Pro
And neither of them was fully functional in Slovakia. What I mean by that? VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G are not working with any of the available carriers. I have checked with them all personally. They have proved and confirmed the issues are on the Google side.
In order to achieve full functionality, you must root the phone and use all sort of mods to enable all of the features. And to this day, I am not sure why is Google doing this. For this reason only I am switching between my Z Fold4 and iPhone 14 Pro. The moment Google will finally and kindly enable 100% of functionality to its Pixel devices in every country, I am getting it full time.

gpvecchi said:
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE,
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Works because it has carrier configs made by Google for TIM (222-01)
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Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP !
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That's because Google has a very bad habit to play like they're Apple (on network side)
But with no significant market share
"The carrier should contact us to ""certify"" our phone to their network"
which translates in
"Won't enable anything until X carrier contacts us to add their network to our internal whitelist"
Funny enough, that problem exist even with "certified" carriers, like windtre (222-88) where you can't use their N78 60mhz only because Google ""certified"" only 40mhz N78 max for them, doesn't matter if with other phones even 150€ everything works perfectly
That problem will exist with other carriers if they will have more spectrum than allowed by their carrier policies (like EE [UK network] if they will merge their N78 blocks)

Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
The first two simply say they do not support the device. I'm not sure why that would be, they also didn't 'sell' any current Pixel Phones.
Is there a charge or operating cost to Google (or someone else) to support a device with the extra network functionality? Maybe the operator doesn't believe it's worth paying for the smaller number of potential customers with that device. Or maybe some operators never get the choice to activate those features based on their country/region? Who knows.

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Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?

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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)

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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.

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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.

pemz82 said:
They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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Understood. I'm moving when my contract is up in March, and likely to Talk Mobile who is an MVNO owned by Vodafone and who use their network. My son currently uses them so I will check with his sim card before moving.
Issue for me is that 3 are totally toilet in my area in terms of signal so I can't use Smarty.

Like i wrote in OP, users of Pixel 7 Pro complain to Orange, Vodafone, Telekom phone companies. The answer was that google block these options & they colud do nothing about it, because of google don't let them.
I want to buy the phone, but it works horrible in my country.

Question Why does my US Amazon purchased Pixel 7 Pro come installed with an AU image?

I'm a bit confused.
I just purchased an unlocked Pixel 7 Pro 256GB from Amazon -- Amazon is seller, NOT 3rd party seller with Amazon Fulfilment. I'm trying to root it now. I've been able to unlock the bootloader already. So I'm attempting to download the latest factory image but I'm quite confused as to which one to download. My current build number is TD1A.220804.009.A2. The A2 suffix seems to indicate that this build that came on this phone is for Telstra (AU) Australian market. My question is why is it on the unlocked model that Amazon USA is selling? But then there's no US image except for T-Mobile/Google Fi. Should I download the Global image or stick with the Telstra AU image?
Very confused.

I think all 3 are essentially the same; the only differences are special modifications to the radio for specific carrier (Telstra, Fi, T-Mobile) signals. I imagine, for your purposes, the A2 would be fine.
You might want to wait a couple of days as Google will release a new security firmware update in the next few days...

simplepinoi177 said:
I think all 3 are essentially the same; the only differences are special modifications to the radio for specific carrier (Telstra, Fi, T-Mobile) signals. I imagine, for your purposes, the A2 would be fine.
You might want to wait a couple of days as Google will release a new security firmware update in the next few days...
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Thanks for the suggestion. May I ask what build you're on? And what country you're in?

Lakino said:
Thanks for the suggestion. May I ask what build you're on? And what country you're in?
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No problem!
I'm in the US, on the Verizon network; that's how I learned since I asked the same thing about the difference between the verizon firmware update and the global one -- that it's basically the same other than special considerations to a specific network. The build I'm in is the Feb image TQ1A.230205.002.

Get on Google's website, get a US Verizon image, and flash it. Done. No issue.

Schroeder09 said:
Get on Google's website, get a US Verizon image, and flash it. Done. No issue.
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I believe the OP is on Telstra (or at least his device has its firmware version), the last Verizon image was in November -- so that is very outdated -- and it might do OP best to wait until March's images are released as it will in a couple of days...
But, if anything, flashing a Global image probably wouldn't do any harm even if OP decided to flash that one either...

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I believe the OP is on Telstra (or at least his device has its firmware version), the last Verizon image was in November -- so that is very outdated -- and it might do OP best to wait until March's images are released as it will in a couple of days...
But, if anything, flashing a Global image probably wouldn't do any harm even if OP decided to flash that one either...
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I guess my confusion stems from getting a Pixel 7 Pro from US Amazon that has a Telstra AU image preloaded. I'm in CA and my carrier is Xfinity -- which uses Verizon as their backbone. I'm not sure if I can just flash any of these builds on my Pixel 7 pro. Are their hardware differences between the models that are sent around the world? Can I flash the global build onto my Pixel 7 Pro?

So I think you "should" be fine but maybe someone else has a better answer for ya....however, if you can d/l an image just get the standard non-carrier version. I have been on Verizon forever and never use their image. Sometimes I will pull the radio out from it and see if that works better, but usually it does not as best as I can tell.
Also, maybe try this for your version answer...in Settings go to About Phone and then Regulatory Labels. There you will see the Model number for your particular P7P. Do a Google search on that and see what you find and post here to see if anyone can assist further.....mine is GE2AE as an example and I purchased direct from Google in California. Your CA maybe Canada
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cmh714 said:
Also, maybe try this for your version answer...in Settings go to About Phone and then Regulatory Labels. There you will see the Model number for your particular P7P. Do a Google search on that and see what you find and post here to see if anyone can assist further.....mine is GE2AE as an example and I purchased direct from Google in California. Your CA maybe Canada
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Thanks. Mine is also GE2AE. I'm in California.
It's got regulatory approval for USA, Canada, EU, UK, AU/NZ, and JP.
So it sounds like I should be able to flash the generic Global build then.
13.0.0 (TQ1A.230205.002, Feb 2023)
There actually is a variant specifically for Verizon and Verizon MVNOs -- of which Xfinity is one.
13.0.0 (TD1A.221105.003, Nov 2022, Verizon, Verizon MVNOs)
But that Verizon variant is Nov 2022. I'll try the latest Global version I guess once March 2023 update comes out in a few days
edit: It still seems exceptionally odd to me that the P7P that Amazon is shipping from their USA warehouses came with an .A2 suffix variant which indicates it's meant for Telstra -- a big carrier in Australia.

Like I said, I dont use the Verizon version, I have always used the standard version. Also as I mentioned, usually the Verizon radio file is differnet, so I have tried flashing that, but never see any real gain. YMMV.
Also, since the March update will be this week, you may as well wait a few days.....IMHO. GL!

Use whatever version is the most recent. If there isn't a Feb Verizon version that means the Verizon specific network changes have been merged into the main branch.
Happens all the time, there will be separate versions now and then until they get it all merged into one. It has always been that way for the Pixels.

Lakino said:
I'm a bit confused.
I just purchased an unlocked Pixel 7 Pro 256GB from Amazon -- Amazon is seller, NOT 3rd party seller with Amazon Fulfilment. I'm trying to root it now. I've been able to unlock the bootloader already. So I'm attempting to download the latest factory image but I'm quite confused as to which one to download. My current build number is TD1A.220804.009.A2. The A2 suffix seems to indicate that this build that came on this phone is for Telstra (AU) Australian market. My question is why is it on the unlocked model that Amazon USA is selling? But then there's no US image except for T-Mobile/Google Fi. Should I download the Global image or stick with the Telstra AU image?
Very confused.
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A2 is what I've been using on unlocked same phone from Google play.

Just a heads up, but the global image works on every carrier in the United States. Just stick with the global builds so that some carrier bloatware isn't pulled in during your re-imaging.
So, although there are separate T-Mobile and Verizon factory images - you do not need to use them as the radio images in all of the US builds (and the global build) have the same available bands. The bands that are used are dictated by your SIM or eSIM. This information was provided to me when I had asked a Google rep why there was a T-Mobile factory image (as at one point, there hadn't been separate T-Mobile builds in the past).
Regardless, I have tested this as I have a pSIM (T-Mobile) and an eSIM (Verizon). I only use the global builds and get full network speeds and can connect to the UC and UW towers with both services - no issues whatsoever.

I'm on Verizon. I noticed the best battery life on November. I suspected I may have been because it's the only month since the p7p released that had a VZW-specific release file. I even asked if anyone else could confirm that the differences in radio files between the VZW update and the global could be the reason why many, many people noticed the best battery life on the November update. I asked multiple times to people noting the best battery life during November if they happened to be VZW customers who had chosen this update file. I never have heard an answer or discussion, so I'll ask here again since the topic of discussion is now in the foreground.
Could all the idle drain issues many people discovered since nothing that November update as the best all be VZW users who are now suffering from un-optimized, global radio.imgs in the update . zip? Are past radio files compatible with newer versions? For example, if tomorrow there is no VZW-specific update . zip file could I replace the march radio.img in the .zip with the VZW radio.img from November and then flash_all.bat that modified update .zip to be able to enjoy the optimized VZW radio? What other files are specific to VZW?

Just an FYI, I got an A2 Pixel from Amazon also. It sounds like it's safe to use the global image to root, correct?

bird333 said:
Just an FYI, I got an A2 Pixel for Amazon also. It sounds like it's safe to use the global image to root, correct?
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For the final time, YES, it is safe to use the global image even if you have an Australian Telstra firmware version on your device even though it was bought from Amazon US...please be finally reassured that it won't break anything and/or be of any issue...

simplepinoi177 said:
For the final time, YES, it is safe to use the global image even if you have an Australian Telstra firmware version on your device even though it was bought from Amazon US...please be finally reassured that it won't break anything and/or be of any issue...
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Better to be safe, asking questions thrice, than to end up with a bricked paper weight.
Samuel Holland said:
A2 is what I've been using on unlocked same phone from Google play.
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Thanks for your data point.
NippleSauce said:
Just a heads up, but the global image works on every carrier in the United States. Just stick with the global builds so that some carrier bloatware isn't pulled in during your re-imaging.
Regardless, I have tested this as I have a pSIM (T-Mobile) and an eSIM (Verizon). I only use the global builds and get full network speeds and can connect to the UC and UW towers with both services - no issues whatsoever.
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Thanks for your feedback.

bird333 said:
Just an FYI, I got an A2 Pixel from Amazon also. It sounds like it's safe to use the global image to root, correct?
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Thanks for chiming in with your A2 build from Amazon. At least now I know I'm not the only one getting an A2 build from Amazon USA.

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and it might do OP best to wait until March's images are released as it will in a couple of days...
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I'm starting to getting antsy waiting. The previous 3 months, they've released an update by the 6th or earlier, but nothing yet on Google site. Come on Google! Release the March 23 update already!

Lakino said:
I'm starting to getting antsy waiting. The previous 3 months, they've released an update by the 6th or earlier, but nothing yet on Google site. Come on Google! Release the March 23 update already!
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I feel you! This is rather unusual (although it has happened from time to time)...
many in other threads are voicing how anxious they are in waiting too... Google usually aims for the 5th, unless the 5th lands on the weekend (as it was in this case), then it usually aims for the Monday after. What's really crazy is the fact that Samsung has released their March update before Google; Samsung in the past would release months, close to year after Google's update!
We're all