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Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
I ordered from SamsungUK.. lets see if they honor the order.
i am checking into this place.
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
I'll wait for the Duos version a month later from start shipping, I'm using exynos galaxy/notes from the note 2 .
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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I'm not sure. i've never bought intl phone.
I have written to the samsung UK web page and they told me the sim free phone is "locked" to unnlocked you muts make a 5 minut call to a number but from the place the phone was intended to sell, the UK
When you do the checkout on Clove store, you can choose this option: "Samsung’s region lock stops use of this handset within your chosen country unless activated with a European SIM. I agree for Clove Technology to break the seal on the box, activate the phone and remove the region lock by completing a 5 minute call on the handset."
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Doubt it. Every year on release there is this region lock, but when I get my phones, they're never region locked.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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Oh this sounds more like it. I've never had to deal with region lock..
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osmosizzz said:
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
luch4galaxy said:
Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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No I never got Samsung pay to work on the international model. But recently I think they got it to work on the s7 edge somehow.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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PuffinNugz said:
I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
PuffinNugz said:
When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
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I just did it on my Computer and you're right..its cheaper than anywhere else. I may just pick it up now
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
The phone says it supports: LTE Bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(AWS), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
And ATT Uses 2, 4, 5, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
So would the internation phone support ATT LTE?
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
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LTE works.
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LTE works.
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Thanks for the education! I usually buy TMOB as in the past they have unlocked bootloaders and LTE works on ATT. But if I read the tea leaves correctly, TMOB might be changing that for the S8. I guess no one knows for sure yet for the S8, but generally speaking, have the boot loaders on past Sammy international models usually unlocked?
Just purchased the black note 10+ unlocked and also took the galaxy watch while I was at it. I added the Verizon sim to save me a trip to the store.
My two questions are:
Since I selected trade in on my Verizon note 8, will they take it if it's not unlocked?
Will this unlocked note 10+ allow me to flash custom ROMs and root if they are found?
1. I think they'll take the trade-in as long as the phone is paid off and in good condition
2. Only Note 10s with Exynos will have guaranteed access to root and custom ROMs. If i'm not mistaken, starting with the S9 series of snapdragon phones, root became pretty much impossible. IF root happens, it's going to be a very VERY long time (IF ever, that is).
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1. I think they'll take the trade-in as long as the phone is paid off and in good condition
2. Only Note 10s with Exynos will have guaranteed access to root and custom ROMs. If i'm not mistaken, starting with the S9 series of snapdragon phones, root became pretty much impossible. IF root happens, it's going to be a very VERY long time (IF ever, that is).
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When is the note 10s out?
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When is the note 10s out?
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My bad, I meant "Note 10's", as in plural, since there's the 10 and the 10+. So I was referring to those phones.
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My bad, I meant "Note 10's", as in plural, since there's the 10 and the 10+. So I was referring to those phones.
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Oh ok but the unlocked phones are the exynos?
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liquidraven said:
Oh ok but the unlocked phones are the exynos?
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The US unlocked phones are Snapdragon. Overseas, they'll be running Exynos.
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The US unlocked phones are Snapdragon. Overseas, they'll be running Exynos.
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
Ended up canceling my pre order through Sammy. I really want to have a exynos again for custom potential.
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With trade ins, it shouldn't matter what carrier or if it's carrier unlocked as long as it's in good condition.
As for potential for root and unlocked bootloaders, the chances are slim to none with any US Snapdragon model. Add to that, having Verizon makes it more difficult as the Exynos models are not compatible. If you want a phone with unlockable bootloader for use on Verizon, your options are the Pixels direct from Google, OnePlus 7 Pro, or buying a Latin American Note 9 or Note 10 that allows bootloader unlocking.
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With trade ins, it shouldn't matter what carrier or if it's carrier unlocked as long as it's in good condition.
As for potential for root and unlocked bootloaders, the chances are slim to none with any US Snapdragon model. Add to that, having Verizon makes it more difficult as the Exynos models are not compatible. If you want a phone with unlockable bootloader for use on Verizon, your options are the Pixels direct from Google, OnePlus 7 Pro, or buying a Latin American Note 9 or Note 10 that allows bootloader unlocking.
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Any major diff with the Latin note 10 otherwise?
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Verizon just told me on the phone that the international note 10 unlocked would work but I should have said exynos.
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international
liquidraven said:
Verizon just told me on the phone that the international note 10 unlocked would work but I should have said exynos.
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international is gsm only, will work on at+t, best on t mobile, i also want root and will go international. once i see how development is going
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
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Ahhh, as far as I know for pre-ordering, you'd have to do that through either an overseas carrier or one of Samsung's overseas websites (like UK or something). Even then, don't know if any of em will ship to the US. They likely won't.
If you wait til release day or after, Amazon should sell them then. You can finally find the exynos variants on Amazon under "international version" if I'm not mistaken.
Trnzbldr said:
international is gsm only, will work on at+t, best on t mobile, i also want root and will go international. once i see how development is going
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Does T mobile use LTE band 71? I'm not sure if the international ones have band 71. I Could be wrong.
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Does T mobile use LTE band 71? I'm not sure if the international ones have band 71. I Could be wrong.
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Yes. Tmobile uses: 2, 4, 5, 12, 46, 66, 71, and LTE U. I guess they'll acquire Sprint frequencies eventually.
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
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Youo can either buy it on EBAY - several good sellers offer it there - or you can go the CLOVE UK web site and get it from them. I have purchased all of my last four phnoes from CLOVE - they have decent prices and great customer service. Fast shipping too considering they are in the UK.If you buy the phone from them and pay 20 bucks for 3 day shipping - they will ship the phone on the 23rd and you should hve it by Monday or Tuesday.
Which ever you choose, good luck!
The Exynos does not support all the LTE bands used in the United States, including band 13 which is a requirement for Verizon.
As for the Latin American Note 10+, it's too soon to know if there will be any differences. The Latin American Note 9 (N9600) took a few months after release for people to figure out how to get everything working on Verizon. Out of the box it didn't work with VOLTE, but after a complex series of firmware flashes and tweaks, it can work. For many, the uncertainty of buying an international phone with no warranty and not knowing what challenges they will face is limiting. Check out the Note 9 forum on how to convert an N9600 to Verizon and see if it looks feasible. The Latin American variants will likely be the N9700 (Note 10) and N9750 (Note 10+) if Samsung sticks to their model number structure.
Hello there,
The first users began to receive their devices by pre-order. In several regions, it was found that the device is being sold without esim and 5G support. For example, in Africa and the CIS countries. After numerous complaints from users, Samsung promised to unblock esim in two weeks, but according to them, 5G modem is physically not there. This directly contradicts what was said at the conference about a single model for all. The device model (SM-F916B) and firmware are exactly the same as those sold in the UK or Germany.
In the modem firmware code in the region settings, the line is simply removed:
[FIRMWARE.ZIP]\[CSC_FILE]\optics_\configs\carriers\single\[REGION_CODE]
Code:
<CscFeature_SystemUI_ConfigOpBranding5GIcon>5GAvailable</CscFeature_SystemUI_ConfigOpBranding5GIcon>
Could someone with a working 5G show their build.prop file? I suppose 5G is also programmatically blocked, but I need proof.
build.prop
Code:
C:\Program Files (x86)\ADB>adb shell
f2q:/ $ getprop
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[persist.radio.multisim.config]: [ss]
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[ril.5g_rf]: [1]
[ril.enabled_5g_rf]: [0] << THIS
[ril.modem.board]: [SDX55M]
This z fold 2 is from germany:
[persist.radio.multisim.config]: [ss]
[persist.radio.multisim.stackid]: [0] 《-- esim and 5g doesn't work
[ril.5g_rf]: [1]
[ril.enabled_5g_rf]: [1]
[ril.modem.board]: [SDX55M]
Are you sure that esim will support will come through Software Update?
B_A_K said:
This z fold 2 is from germany
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Thanks!
sp1312 said:
Are you sure that esim will support will come through Software Update?
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I was told so on the Samsung hotline. For example, the Italian version has a similar problem with esim.
Are you saying that the version sold in the UK does NOT have the 5G modem? How can they be selling me a Galaxy Z Fold 2 5G if it doesn't have 5G?
If this is the case then, seeing as they have already pushed my delivery back I am going to cancel my order and carry on not using Samsung phones.
I am not with EE in the UK but their pre-order information for the Fold 2 states "Pre-order the 5G-enabled Galaxy Fold2" so surely it must have the modem or they will have a lot of angry customers.
Just checked Carphone Warehouse here and they have it listed as being 5G.
Maybe I misunderstood or the information isn't accurate?
Trem said:
Are you saying that the version sold in the UK does NOT have the 5G modem? How can they be selling me a Galaxy Z Fold 2 5G if it doesn't have 5G?
If this is the case then, seeing as they have already pushed my delivery back I am going to cancel my order and carry on not using Samsung phones.
I am not with EE in the UK but their pre-order information for the Fold 2 states "Pre-order the 5G-enabled Galaxy Fold2" so surely it must have the modem or they will have a lot of angry customers.
Just checked Carphone Warehouse here and they have it listed as being 5G.
Maybe I misunderstood or the information isn't accurate?
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In UK and rest of the Europe it's 5G enabled. This is mostly for Asian and African market where 5G rollout will take few years
Russian Samsung customer support says, that esim and 5G will be activated in ~2 weeks ...
Dexogen said:
Hello there,
The first users began to receive their devices by pre-order. In several regions, it was found that the device is being sold without esim and 5G support. For example, in Africa and the CIS countries. After numerous complaints from users, Samsung promised to unblock esim in two weeks, but according to them, 5G modem is physically not there. This directly contradicts what was said at the conference about a single model for all. The device model (SM-F916B) and firmware are exactly the same as those sold in the UK or Germany.
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In UK and rest of the Europe it's 5G enabled. This is mostly for Asian and African market where 5G rollout will take few years
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Phew! lol I'm hoping that is the case but reading the first post it looked like the 5G modem is not physically there and it's the same model and firmware as ones sold in the UK.
Trem said:
Phew! lol I'm hoping that is the case but reading the first post it looked like the 5G modem is not physically there and it's the same model and firmware as ones sold in the UK.
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All Snapdragon 865 (or plus) are built in with 5G modem, that is one of the reason for higher prices of Flagships this year. So 5G modem is there but in some countries it's disabled via software
Since this phone only comes with Qualcomm processors, Samsung is forced to pay around $80 for a 5G license per device. According to a source close to Samsung, they decided to save money in some countries.
Got my Z Fold 2 5G yesterday (in Netherlands) and there is indeed no esim. The box has 2 IMEI listed, but the phone shows only one. No "sim card manager" inside settings menu either. I called samsung "premier support" this morning and they had no clue. the support rep gave me a complete non-sense reason (i.e. esim is not allowed by the carrier - lol) and I very quickly realized there is no point arguing. I hope they enable it in 2 weeks or mine is going back.
I received a confirmation from Samsung Moderator from Samsung community website.
The phone is compatible with esim.
The problem will be solved via an update.
Update is currently in test and validation phase.
But 2 weeks seems a little bit long for a premium device.
Have you 2 IMEI or one?
Pead87 said:
I received a confirmation from Samsung Moderator from Samsung community website.
The phone is compatible with esim.
The problem will be solved via an update.
Update is currently in test and validation phase.
But 2 weeks seems a little bit long for a premium device.
Have you 2 IMEI or one?
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Thanks for the good news.
I have 2 IMEI listed on the box - and samsung confirmed that it's a dual phone / esim model. Can you please reference the community thread?
I got mine from Samsung Portugal. 5G is enabled (but we have no 5G network yet) but no esim. I have 2 IMEI listed on the box btw. Indeed the Sim card manager option is not there. I called Samsung and they have no clue why it is not there. They will call me back in 1 hour. I will let you know. This is kind of dishonest from Samsung. Selling a product like this one and not telling users that all functions they paid high price for, are not available right out of the box. I am feeling as bad as when I got my S20 ultra with all the camera defaults. I have 2 weeks to send it back. telling us that it will be available within 2 weeks is kind of weird.
I received my UK model today - 5G is working fine, but no e-sim/sim manager etc. Fingers crossed they get it sorted soon - the official launch is tomorrow, you'd think the carriers would be pushing them to resolve it for then!
What does it mean if you only have one imei number?
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I have two imeis on the phone box/case but only one in "About phone"
Waiting on eSiM solution too - agree not cool to advertise and sell with a major feature missing - phone is great - just need 2 sims if I want to use it as my daily driver ...
Spud1 said:
I received my UK model today - 5G is working fine, but no e-sim/sim manager etc. Fingers crossed they get it sorted soon - the official launch is tomorrow, you'd think the carriers would be pushing them to resolve it for then!
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Yeah, same boat. Hopefully a new ota will activate the service.
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hi All,
as per SAMMOBILE there is new update for z fold 2, anyone got the update for dual sim/Esim. i am waiting for mine as pre order ( what ever marketing they call it) will get the device by 24th, please update who ever got esim or dual sim working. otherwise will cancel the pre order.
minipac13 said:
hi All,
as per SAMMOBILE there is new update for z fold 2, anyone got the update for dual sim/Esim. i am waiting for mine as pre order ( what ever marketing they call it) will get the device by 24th, please update who ever got esim or dual sim working. otherwise will cancel the pre order.
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Nothing for UK version yet
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I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
Thanks,
Master K
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
entropism said:
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.
OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
chompx2 said:
Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.
Markeee said:
I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
chompx2 said:
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
chompx2 said:
Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5
mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.
I bought s22 ultra from south korea , does it support dual sim or e sim.. m. od
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I bought s22 ultra from south korea , does it support dual sim or e sim..model- SM-S908N
Good day! I am wondering the same thing. I purchased mine in South Korea. I do not see the option. Despite many sites claiming ALL S22 series has that option. Were you able to get an answer?
There is a SIM administrator in the menu where you will see both SIMs in case you have two physical ones, or your can also download eSIMs from there. S22 ultra stock Android 13 One UI 5.0. Is this what you're asking?
Marcelocohenarg said:
There is a SIM administrator in the menu where you will see both SIMs in case you have two physical ones, or your can also download eSIMs from there. S22 ultra stock Android 13 One UI 5.0. Is this what you're asking?
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My understanding from what I read all S22 models has dual sim. I checked and it's only showing one IMEI number and no sim option under connections. There's nothing showing eSIM. My model is SM-S908N.
Marcelocohenarg said:
There is a SIM administrator in the menu where you will see both SIMs in case you have two physical ones, or your can also download eSIMs from there. S22 ultra stock Android 13 One UI 5.0. Is this what you're asking?
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My understanding from what I read all S22 models has dual sim. I checked and it's only showing one IMEI number and no sim option under connections. My model is SM-S908N.
I have the US Samsung S22 Ultra Factory unlocked. Mine show both sims, under about phone.
doubledragon5 said:
I have the US Samsung S22 Ultra Factory unlocked. Mine show both sims, under about phone.
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I just read something from another site. Apparently South Korea has a restriction on their phones when it comes to dual sim. Doesn't make any sense especially since people travel a lot. I also read that they were supposed to implement changes in September. However it seems like it hasn't been done.
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I just read something from another site. Apparently South Korea has a restriction on their phones when it comes to dual sim. Doesn't make any sense especially since people travel a lot. I also read that they were supposed to implement changes in September. However it seems like it hasn't been done.
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You would think, since Samsung is from South Korea. They would give their people the most options a phone could offer..
can't have 2 sim option even if you use custom ROM of VN-ROM
Diangucmau said:
can't have 2 sim option even if you use custom ROM of VN-ROM
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What do you mean?
doubledragon5 said:
You would think, since Samsung is from South Korea. They would give their people the most options a phone could offer..
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Exactly! Very frustrating.