Hi I have a concern about my next phone purchase (hopefully an Xperia 5 III).
I currently have an Xperia XZ2C that I'm looking to replace.
The main concern/frustration with it is a few pre-loaded apps that I don't want kept trying to load and also update (e.g. Facebook and Sony News)... it took a long while and lots of searching, but Sony was blocking users from uninstalling these and the only option I found was to completely root it, which I don't especially want to do as I'm tryign to leave my daily driver stock... or to mark them as disabled - they stop wasting battery or annoying me with update requests, but still waste storage space.
I mentioned this to a friend who has the Xperia 5 II and apparently this problem has got a lot worse as it now includes mandatory games that cannot be uninstalled (e.g. Call of Duty - which is over 2Gb + 3Gb for the first update!!).
Apparently these apps and games wasted nearly 10% of his phone - more than the entire operating system. Are these apps able to be properly uninstalled on the Xperia 5 III or is this unwanted bloat still stuck on the devices?
I actually like that game, but I'll stick to my PC / consoles.... maybe a tablet at a stretch.... no way I ever want it even installed on my daily driver phone!
Or failing that, I abandon the plans to keep it stock.... So how long before there is a stock+root for this phone? So I can start trying one of those bloatware removers?
I have a 5II, and I can deactivate unused system apps. They don't use that much space once they are deactivated. Also, if you really need them gone, you can always use ADB. It doesn't need root.
How to uninstall carrier/OEM bloatware without root access
If you want to get rid of carrier/OEM apps from your phone, here's how you can uninstall bloatware from your device without root access!
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EDIT: Ok, just saw that pm uninstall also needs root if you want to do it for more than user0. Sorry for not realising.
"Ok, just saw that pm uninstall also needs root if you want to do it for more than user0. Sorry for not realising."
This is true but at least it will uninstall it for you the end user. The only way it will show up again is if you do a factory reset. So technically yes it will still be there, but they don't take up that much room and at least they're gone from trying to do anything in the background. Also, if this will not uninstall it, you can also do the command to disable said bloat if you cannot disable it in settings.
Coirpre said:
I have a 5II, and I can deactivate unused system apps. They don't use that much space once they are deactivated. Also, if you really need them gone, you can always use ADB. It doesn't need root.
How to uninstall carrier/OEM bloatware without root access
If you want to get rid of carrier/OEM apps from your phone, here's how you can uninstall bloatware from your device without root access!
www.xda-developers.com
EDIT: Ok, just saw that pm uninstall also needs root if you want to do it for more than user0. Sorry for not realising.
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Thanks for this - as per Jaseman's comment, this won't FULLY uninstall apps, but it's a great start as some "system" (bloatware) apps can't even be disabled is settings or if disabled will resurrect and re-enable themselves every time there's a system update ("Sony News", GRRRRRR!!!!)..... at least this way if it has something utterly ridiculous on a high-end "professional" phone, like Call Of Duty Warzone, then it will stop it from doing the 4Gb update!
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BLOATWARE & ROOT TIPS FOR THE LG SPECTRUM II VS930
Your LG Spectrum 2 must have root to Remove bloatware. The reason you want root access is so you can become a “Superuser.” What does that mean? Nothing really, except your boot-loader is no longer locked, so you can do some things (including removing bloatware) and run some apps you wouldn't otherwise be able to.
with System Cleanup or Titanium Backup * root, you can freeze (my preference) or uninstall apps that are particularly troublesome. Before you start removing anything, make sure you have made a backup using ether app. Here is a "HOW TO BACKUP YOUR SPECTRUM 2 DEVICE".
I prefer freezing an app over uninstalling one, if you really must uninstall apps, you should freeze them first and wait a few days to ensure that that your phone works properly without them, because you never know if you’ll need that app in the future. Most bloatware is less than 100 kb in size. So, most likely we’re talking about wanting to not see the app versus totally removing it from your device. Also, in the odd, off-chance your provider actually requires that app for an upgrade to the ROM (i.e. OTA updates), you can unfreeze it easier than having to find and side load the appropriate app.
COPY THE LINK BELOW TO YOUR BROWSER FOR MORE INFORMATION TO THE SPECTRUM 2
rootzwiki.com/topic/36242-spectrum-2-forum/page__st__30#entry1109519
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
No ETA pls
Let's wait
funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.
wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.
Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.
Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me
Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.
What apps i can remove on Xpera M2 D2303 4.3/4.4.2/4.4.4 Without any "stopped working" error later on?
I really hate bloatware and sony's apps, i removed some google apps, xperia care but there Is more sony stuff i want to remove safely...
anyone knows?
Guys?
Try searching ther was article on Wikipedia i found few months back, and use Titanium Backup for backup then delete. You can remove almost all apps in app drawer, i removed Gmail, stock mail app, some of Google aps, and T-mobile apps.
Good Luck.
Xperia M2 D2303 on K.K. 4.4.4
Since you can remove them, you are rooted. So you can freeze the apps you think you'd want to remove and see it that causes any issue. They do not get updated and shouldn't consume RAM nor CPU anymore. If you really want to remove apps, first freeze them and if the phone works fine remove them later.
Oh, another thing. I noticed that some apps in the preinstalled KitKat were actually installed in /data (Facebook, Twitter). Just go in the launcher drawer and select uninstall. All the ones with an "X" can be safely removed.
Im using System App safe Remover and some many apps are key module
What it means
ImArlet said:
Im using System App safe Remover and some many apps are key module
What it means
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It means they are part of Android.. You sure don't want to remove them. Don't get obsessed about removing apps, it doesn't do much. The space you free in /system won't be really used (well, yeah. You can always move some of your downloaded apps there to save space in /data. A process that must be repeated every time an app in /system gets updated, though). Apart from that and maybe from some wakelock issues it isn't really worth it. KitKat manages the RAM decently.
Otherwise another thing you may do is to remove/freeze the redundant apps. When you get prompted about which app should be executed for a specific action you may remove the one(s) you're not using.
Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
sbdadmak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.
0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time
nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...
My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.
Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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I'm looking to transformmy gw4 to close to pixel watch style and want to get rid of any samsung ux apps.
So i would like uninstall/disable any samsung ux apps and services that eat battery for no reason and not break any services (steps, heartrate etc.
Not uninstall but preferably disable (correct me if i'm wrong, but after uninstalling system apps using adb can these be installed again if i want to go back to stock by factory reset?)
ArletPDR said:
I'm looking to transformmy gw4 to close to pixel watch style and want to get rid of any samsung ux apps.
So i would like uninstall/disable any samsung ux apps and services that eat battery for no reason and not break any services (steps, heartrate etc.
Not uninstall but preferably disable (correct me if i'm wrong, but after uninstalling system apps using adb can these be installed again if i want to go back to stock by factory reset?)
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No it's absolutely safe to uninstall bloatware as factory image can't be modified without root.
Calling pm uninstall --user 0 [package] should uninstall for current user eg. on a different partition which was setup during device initial setup.
Also it's safe to execute pm delete-dexopt [package] it order to remove files after the app optimization process on first start.
Next week I'll try to create a list of app safe to uninstall.
P.S. Oh, meanwhile could you try to take a look at the installed system apps list
pm list packages -s
@ArletPDR you can try this method though it's from 2021.
debloat galaxy watch 4
Hello everyone, Hope you all good, First of all, I want to clarify that this is a list with everything that people can remove, it is up to you to choose what to remove from the watch 4, you don't need to remove all apps... Debloat Galaxy Watch...
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@ArletPDR you can try this method though it's from 2021.
debloat galaxy watch 4
Hello everyone, Hope you all good, First of all, I want to clarify that this is a list with everything that people can remove, it is up to you to choose what to remove from the watch 4, you don't need to remove all apps... Debloat Galaxy Watch...
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I'd love an updated list, there's been quite a few changes since then...
raby said:
I'd love an updated list, there's been quite a few changes since then...
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I've got a list of system apps installed after the last update. Though it still needs to be verified which app is safe to uninstall
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I've got a list of system apps installed after the last update. Though it still needs to be verified which app is safe to uninstall
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Sounds good to me, its a shame that I can't remove samsung health for all the health tracking functions of the watch to still work properly, it's a huge battery hog and I'd rather use google fit or better yet, and open source tracker, but I guess that's on me for buying a samsung watch, can't wait for it to be rooted
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I'd love an updated list, there's been quite a few changes since then...
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This list still works, it has been updated due to an issue with gps not working when uninstalling sth related to Bixby. I've used this list just two weeks ago and no issue. Even uninstalled more aps then listed. So just give it a try.
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This list still works, it has been updated due to an issue with gps not working when uninstalling sth related to Bixby. I've used this list just two weeks ago and no issue. Even uninstalled more aps then listed. So just give it a try.
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I did, and I had no issues with gps, just didn't remove watch faces because I don't think those affect performance at all