Question Safe to debloat list? - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

I'm looking to transformmy gw4 to close to pixel watch style and want to get rid of any samsung ux apps.
So i would like uninstall/disable any samsung ux apps and services that eat battery for no reason and not break any services (steps, heartrate etc.
Not uninstall but preferably disable (correct me if i'm wrong, but after uninstalling system apps using adb can these be installed again if i want to go back to stock by factory reset?)

ArletPDR said:
I'm looking to transformmy gw4 to close to pixel watch style and want to get rid of any samsung ux apps.
So i would like uninstall/disable any samsung ux apps and services that eat battery for no reason and not break any services (steps, heartrate etc.
Not uninstall but preferably disable (correct me if i'm wrong, but after uninstalling system apps using adb can these be installed again if i want to go back to stock by factory reset?)
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No it's absolutely safe to uninstall bloatware as factory image can't be modified without root.
Calling pm uninstall --user 0 [package] should uninstall for current user eg. on a different partition which was setup during device initial setup.
Also it's safe to execute pm delete-dexopt [package] it order to remove files after the app optimization process on first start.
Next week I'll try to create a list of app safe to uninstall.
P.S. Oh, meanwhile could you try to take a look at the installed system apps list
pm list packages -s

@ArletPDR you can try this method though it's from 2021.
debloat galaxy watch 4
Hello everyone, Hope you all good, First of all, I want to clarify that this is a list with everything that people can remove, it is up to you to choose what to remove from the watch 4, you don't need to remove all apps... Debloat Galaxy Watch...
forum.xda-developers.com

PsyClip-R said:
@ArletPDR you can try this method though it's from 2021.
debloat galaxy watch 4
Hello everyone, Hope you all good, First of all, I want to clarify that this is a list with everything that people can remove, it is up to you to choose what to remove from the watch 4, you don't need to remove all apps... Debloat Galaxy Watch...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I'd love an updated list, there's been quite a few changes since then...

raby said:
I'd love an updated list, there's been quite a few changes since then...
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I've got a list of system apps installed after the last update. Though it still needs to be verified which app is safe to uninstall

PsyClip-R said:
I've got a list of system apps installed after the last update. Though it still needs to be verified which app is safe to uninstall
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Sounds good to me, its a shame that I can't remove samsung health for all the health tracking functions of the watch to still work properly, it's a huge battery hog and I'd rather use google fit or better yet, and open source tracker, but I guess that's on me for buying a samsung watch, can't wait for it to be rooted

raby said:
I'd love an updated list, there's been quite a few changes since then...
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This list still works, it has been updated due to an issue with gps not working when uninstalling sth related to Bixby. I've used this list just two weeks ago and no issue. Even uninstalled more aps then listed. So just give it a try.

bluetigger68 said:
This list still works, it has been updated due to an issue with gps not working when uninstalling sth related to Bixby. I've used this list just two weeks ago and no issue. Even uninstalled more aps then listed. So just give it a try.
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I did, and I had no issues with gps, just didn't remove watch faces because I don't think those affect performance at all

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Apps safe to freeze disable or remove

Apps I have freezed so far with no issues.....
weird.. there are certain things my disable button is greyed out. any idea?
The same for me, in most cases is the Disable button disabled. I haven't root and I wont it yet.
You can use the Debloater app by Gatesjunior to disable them without root.
Do you mean this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 ?
There is written:
Requirements:
The program requires that your manufacturer USB drivers are installed for your specific device as well as the following:
• Windows Operating System
• USB Debugging turned on for your device
• Root or KitKat and above running on your device
but we haven't root or KitKat...
libb said:
Do you mean this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 ?
There is written:
Requirements:
The program requires that your manufacturer USB drivers are installed for your specific device as well as the following:
• Windows Operating System
• USB Debugging turned on for your device
• Root or KitKat and above running on your device
but we haven't root or KitKat...
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Yes, also works on Lollipop. I disabled loads of Samsung apps using it.
shiningarmor said:
weird.. there are certain things my disable button is greyed out. any idea?
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Rooted I used titanium... will be testing more apps I do nandroid backup between each test....
jhericurls said:
Yes, also works on Lollipop. I disabled loads of Samsung apps using it.
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what apps you was able to disable without bootloop or problems?
antiguangenius said:
what apps you was able to disable without bootloop or problems?
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I disabled loads, just to name a few:
All the ANT apps
3DTourViewer
Flipboard apps
Carmode
CatchFavrorites
Samsung Keyboard
Samsung Calender sync
Samsung Cloud Data Relay
Samsung Contact Sync
Samsung SBrowser sync
Samsung SNote3
Samsung Syncadaptor
S Planner
S Finder
Email
Galaxy Talkback
Gear VR apps
S Health
STK
Music
My Interest
My Places
PageBuddy
Quick question:
Is it safe to disable all the KNOX apps with Titanium Backup?
BBs19 said:
Quick question:
Is it safe to disable all the KNOX apps with Titanium Backup?
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i have on mine everything seems to be working fine
dashraider said:
i have on mine everything seems to be working fine
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Has anyone else tried?
sk8trix said:
Has anyone else tried?
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I froze the knock apps/services and things are fine here. I even froze Google news and books cause they came up as 2% battery used when I never even opened them
I lost knox while flashing new kernel. Still no problems.
Freeze Bloatware Apps with Titanium Backup on VZW S6 Edge
jhericurls said:
I disabled loads, just to name a few:
All the ANT apps
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I posted a list of apps you can freeze with Titanium Backup on a rooted Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge -- and likely other versions as well -- . I'll update it as needed: http://blog.chadwikdavis.com/disable-freeze-bloatware-vzw-galaxy-s6-edge/ Haven't tried with Debloater but I expect you won't have issues there either with just those basic bloatware apps.
I'm nervous to disable too many things. Better to go with a bare-bones custom ROM than risk breaking an important service on your phone. If you're like me, you just want to optimize the speed, performance and battery life on your yearly investment in these mini-supercomputers.
Do the ANT apps affect the hardware heart-rate sensor or does it only disable the wireless antenna for wearable tech?
chadwicky said:
I posted a list of apps you can freeze with Titanium Backup on a rooted Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge -- and likely other versions as well -- . I'll update it as needed: http://blog.chadwikdavis.com/disable-freeze-bloatware-vzw-galaxy-s6-edge/ Haven't tried with Debloater but I expect you won't have issues there either with just those basic bloatware apps.
I'm nervous to disable too many things. Better to go with a bare-bones custom ROM than risk breaking an important service on your phone. If you're like me, you just want to optimize the speed, performance and battery life on your yearly investment in these mini-supercomputers.
Do the ANT apps affect the hardware heart-rate sensor or does it only disable the wireless antenna for wearable tech?
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I can confirm that heart rate monitor and finger print scanner work without ant+ on the custom rom im on anyways.

Android System WebView, com.facebook.appmanager and com.facebook.system!

What is it? Can I disable them?
Why do you need to disable them?
gm007 said:
Why do you need to disable them?
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If it do not function for anything, at least not consume RAM.
Not the Webview if you use GApps such as Play Store, etc, Facebook yes if unused
Disappointed in Sony for including com.facebook.appmanager and com.facebook.system as uninstallable components. My Z5 came with the Facebook app already installed (Customized DE firmware). I never even ran the app (I don't do facebook) - uninstalled it the second I spotted it but these two processes remain and can only be disabled, not uninstalled.
Feck off Facebook!
I deleted webview once on my old Z1, system became unresponsive.
Sent from my E6653 @ XDA Portal
andiling said:
Not the Webview if you use GApps such as Play Store, etc, Facebook yes if unused
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Tks !!!
I keep a real clean phone. I don't use FB either and have it disabled. But I discovered this file or application and as fast as I would shut down and delete cache and data it would reload itself. This action alone made me suspicious of it and I wanted it off my phone or at the very least disabled. On another forum it was recommended to install "Package Disabler Pro" at a cost of $.99 and I tried it. In the notes and warnings you have to use this carefully least you make the phone unusable but I "disable" these two persistant "Facebook" files and they have not come back. My phone works fine too. Then I went after the damn Sprint/Samsung installed voicemail program that keeps wanting you to upgrade and then it had a persistant flag that kept coming up saying "We had forced upgrades too but this one is necessary". I said no to that too and with this program finally have turned it OFF.
Hope this helps.
Lisa
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
What is it? Can I disable them?
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To completely disable them ("temporary" uninstallation) use Debloater http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
or learn how to use the
Code:
pm hide
command
As suggested, i would not disable Android Webview.
Always do a BACKUP of your personal files before disabling system apps : if you are not rooted and disable the wrong package, you'll get in bootloop and will have to reset the phone.
lol answered in a resurrected old thread,
Lisa stop making jokes please XD

How to completely delete stock apps without root

How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
themissionimpossible said:
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
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They will still takes up space yeah?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
These apps are in the system partition and take space there.
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
ewokuk said:
I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps!
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You have to permanently disable the Samsung Push Service (the first thing I do), and disable Galaxy Apps and enable it only when needed....
itsmohsink said:
How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
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You can't remove any stock apps without root access. If you can root your S8 then Download Lucky Patcher Apk and you can remove unnecessary stock apps.
ewokuk said:
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
Sailor Gerry said:
I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
try this one. apps will still take up place in system partition,
but I don't think they will auto update after this.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Sailor Gerry said:
I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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ewokuk said:
I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
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I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
ggrant3876 said:
I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
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That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
roaduardo said:
That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en

Question Samsung Health Not Opening

Hello as the tittle says my Samsung health app wont fully load when i try to open it and click ''continue'' it just stays loading for ever. i have tried to clear cache/data and nothing i also uninstalled and install and no luck if any one has a fix or seen this before please share thank you.
Zirox said:
Hello as the tittle says my Samsung health app wont fully load when i try to open it and click ''continue'' it just stays loading for ever. i have tried to clear cache/data and nothing i also uninstalled and install and no luck if any one has a fix or seen this before please share thank you.
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Did you update through the Galaxy Store?
twistedumbrella said:
Did you update through the Galaxy Store?
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yes i have updated though Galaxy Store and also tried Google Play. i have disabled some stuff using ADB but i have looked over the list and dont see anything that would effect the app but i could be wrong. but i have had the phone for a month and have even tried downloading older version using apk and even those wont work.
Zirox said:
yes i have updated though Galaxy Store and also tried Google Play. i have disabled some stuff using ADB but i have looked over the list and dont see anything that would effect the app but i could be wrong. but i have had the phone for a month and have even tried downloading older version using apk and even those wont work.
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There are a few supporting apps, but I don't know them off the top of my head. The ones I was able to find (in lists of bloatware, ironically) are:
com.sec.android.app.shealth
com.sec.android.sdk.health
com.sec.android.service.health
And just to put it out there in case it should matter, there is no such thing as system cache in modern Android. Just in case that is suggested at some point.
i just check the list and none of those 3 are delated/disable this is so frustrating.
What apps did you disable
i use an app i found here on XDA called ADB-AppControl under the Disabled section the only samsung stuff i have listed is S-Launcher-Link Sharing-Samsung Internet-Samsung Members-Samsung Notes. none that would make S-Health not to work. under the Deleted tab i have a few stuff so i will post photos.
So you killed off all the Knox stuff? That may have done it. Samsung Health is one of those "not if rooted or unlocked" apps. That may be breaking their detection code.
twistedumbrella said:
So you killed off all the Knox stuff? That may have done it. Samsung Health is one of those "not if rooted or unlocked" apps. That may be breaking their detection code.
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ok i re-added Knox Enrollment Service-Knox Analytics Uploader and Knox VpnPacProcessor and app still not working. i typed knox and enabled everything that showed up as knox if i missed anything please let me know thanks.
Zirox said:
ok i re-added Knox Enrollment Service-Knox Analytics Uploader and Knox VpnPacProcessor and app still not working. i typed knox and enabled everything that showed up as knox if i missed anything please let me know thanks.
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I would try uninstalling, rebooting, and installing after that just to be sure. It's only a guess, but I know Samsung Health is like the banking apps.
twistedumbrella said:
I would try uninstalling, rebooting, and installing after that just to be sure. It's only a guess, but I know Samsung Health is like the banking apps.
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Sadly still not working been 31 days since I got the phone and haven't been able to figure out the cause. Funny thing is that health app works on my watch classic 4 it tracks pretty much everything but if I want to see more information or just open the app on my phone that's when I can't access it.
silly question but have you allowed all permissions for it
beanbean50 said:
silly question but have you allowed all permissions for it
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I get no message saying grant any permission but i have manually gone into settings-apps-S-Health and enable every single permission and no luck.
I know this is an old topic, but I found the answer and thought I would try to help...
@Zirox,
The debloat that you did on your phone disabled a needed app/service for Samsung Health to login. The item in question is called:
KLMS Agent (com.samsung.klmsagent) - it's on your 4th screenshot
If that has been disabled, it needs to be re-enabled for Samsung Health to work, otherwise you'll end up getting various errors and it won't get past the first screens.
I had the issue where SH would not get past the first screen, and just kept looping. I tried clearing caches (phone and app), reinstalling, installing old versions, etc, but none of that worked. I checked my brothers' Samsung phone, and his worked fine, so I knew it wasn't a SH server issue. I then went into my debloater app, and tried enabling various packages that I had disabled as part of debloating, and after trying a few items, I came across the KLMS Agent app/service, and finally SH got past the first screen and into the app. Once you re-enable that app/service, SH should work.
Hope this helps you out!
kssxs said:
I know this is an old topic, but I found the answer and thought I would try to help...
@Zirox,
The debloat that you did on your phone disabled a needed app/service for Samsung Health to login. The item in question is called:
KLMS Agent (com.samsung.klmsagent) - it's on your 4th screenshot
If that has been disabled, it needs to be re-enabled for Samsung Health to work, otherwise you'll end up getting various errors and it won't get past the first screens.
I had the issue where SH would not get past the first screen, and just kept looping. I tried clearing caches (phone and app), reinstalling, installing old versions, etc, but none of that worked. I checked my brothers' Samsung phone, and his worked fine, so I knew it wasn't a SH server issue. I then went into my debloater app, and tried enabling various packages that I had disabled as part of debloating, and after trying a few items, I came across the KLMS Agent app/service, and finally SH got past the first screen and into the app. Once you re-enable that app/service, SH should work.
Hope this helps you out!
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Appreciate the reply i will keep this info for future debloat i do but i haven't owned an android phone for the past year or so. I tend to switch from android to iPhone once in a while. Again thank you for the info/fix will definitely remember this package.
kssxs said:
I know this is an old topic, but I found the answer and thought I would try to help...
@Zirox,
The debloat that you did on your phone disabled a needed app/service for Samsung Health to login. The item in question is called:
KLMS Agent (com.samsung.klmsagent) - it's on your 4th screenshot
If that has been disabled, it needs to be re-enabled for Samsung Health to work, otherwise you'll end up getting various errors and it won't get past the first screens.
I had the issue where SH would not get past the first screen, and just kept looping. I tried clearing caches (phone and app), reinstalling, installing old versions, etc, but none of that worked. I checked my brothers' Samsung phone, and his worked fine, so I knew it wasn't a SH server issue. I then went into my debloater app, and tried enabling various packages that I had disabled as part of debloating, and after trying a few items, I came across the KLMS Agent app/service, and finally SH got past the first screen and into the app. Once you re-enable that app/service, SH should work.
Hope this helps you out!
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KLMS Agent is like Google Play Services, but for Knox. I guess because it didn't say "Knox" in the name, it was missed. It's basically THE Knox app, though.

General Samsung Health Platform Battery Drain

Was prompted to install this app. Not even clear to me what it does that Samsung Health doesn't do, but one thing I do know - it drains battery like crazy - as much or more than the display, and it was killing my watch in under a day. Uninstalled, and battery life is back to normal.
Are you referring to this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.service.health
I have never been prompted to install this. Good to know so if I am I wont install. Did it prompt you on watch?
fliptwister said:
Are you referring to this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.service.health
I have never been prompted to install this. Good to know so if I am I wont install. Did it prompt you on watch?
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Yup, that's the one - and no, I believe I got the prompt on my phone.
Uninstalled... long ago, no remorse
Anything with the words "kids", "friends" or "wellness" too.
fliptwister said:
Are you referring to this app?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.service.health
I have never been prompted to install this. Good to know so if I am I wont install. Did it prompt you on watch?
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Now I remember where I got the prompt (as I just got it again) - within Samsung Health. Shows up as a pop-up to sync data between apps, which then refers you to the Health Platform app.
jtOttawa said:
Now I remember where I got the prompt (as I just got it again) - within Samsung Health. Shows up as a pop-up to sync data between apps, which then refers you to the Health Platform app.
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Device health?
blackhawk said:
Device health?
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No, the Samsung Health app.
jtOttawa said:
No, the Samsung Health app.
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I don't have that one. So this is for device health not human health?
Goofy Samsung...
jtOttawa said:
Was prompted to install this app. Not even clear to me what it does that Samsung Health doesn't do, but one thing I do know - it drains battery like crazy - as much or more than the display, and it was killing my watch in under a day. Uninstalled, and battery life is back to normal.
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Which app is available that replaces the samsung healt app?
How did people uninstall health platform ? I only see an option to remove the updates. I'm seeing wicked battery drain on my GW4 too.
brewston said:
How did people uninstall health platform ? I only see an option to remove the updates. I'm seeing wicked battery drain on my GW4 too.
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Are you sure you're referring to the same app - Health Platform, not Samsung Health or Samsung Health Monitor?
Yes, definitely health platform.

I wouldn't remove it unless you know exactly what it does.
Try clearing its data and clearing the system cache.
In Device Care (or whatever it's called on your device) clear system logs and turn off all power management.
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Yes, definitely health platform.

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Strange - for me, that was an optional download, and so completely uninstalled. Where did you try uninstalling it from, the app drawer? Maybe try disabling it if you can't uninstall it?
jtOttawa said:
Strange - for me, that was an optional download, and so completely uninstalled. Where did you try uninstalling it from, the app drawer? Maybe try disabling it if you can't uninstall it?
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Yeah, I was prompted to install it last week (week before?) I'd been looking in Play Store for uninstall but ended up disabling in Settings > Apps and it doesn't appear these any more. I'll reboot the watch and see how I get on (I've got a Samsung phone FWIW, not sure if that's affecting things)
I dont really remember installing this app but had extremely bad battery drain the last few days, which brought me to this thread. When I followed the link to the app store I had the option to uninstall updates only yet the app doesn't show up anywhere on the phone.
jtOttawa said:
Strange - for me, that was an optional download, and so completely uninstalled. Where did you try uninstalling it from, the app drawer? Maybe try disabling it if you can't uninstall it?
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If it has a "parent" app you may need to uninstall that to uninstall your problem app.
Joined at the hip...
I've seen Samsung daisy chain their apps together like this with Wearables.
They show as 2 separate apps but install/uninstall as one
That's strange. I have it installed and it IS NOT the battery hog
kbboykin said:
That's strange. I have it installed and it IS NOT the battery hog
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Interesting. Maybe it's a settings issue within the app.
jtOttawa said:
Interesting. Maybe it's a settings issue within the app.
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Possibly as I have everything and the kitchen sink syncing. Only after the latest SH update did things get squirrelly as fast as syncing. But I've managed to get it back and a lot of things sync to SH without using their app, I e. Yunmai my smart scale used to sync with the app, but now won't pair with my phone through the app, but sync weight and BMI directly to SH. Go figure...

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