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Hello everybody,
I opened this thread so anyone experiencing this problem (overheating and lagging in heavy games such as: Real Racing 3, The Amazing Spiderman 2, even Candy Crush, Asphalt 8 and so on) can discuss it here and maybe we'll get a better perspective of the problem, and maybe find a solution for that.
The Problem :
The phone would heat up, sometimes to the point I can't touch the phone, and the game FPS drops significantly (the games start to lag).
It happens for me after about 5-8 min of gameplay.
From a little google search, some users reported that the problem was caused by the constant running of the IndexService(this process is responsible for Indexing files both on the internal and external sd card) process, some users formatted the sdcard and reported that it has stopped, some users reported that the problem is still there, some users replaced the sdcard with another.
For me, I'm still trying to figure out if the sdcard is the problem by running some monitoring apps like System Panel Pro, and waiting for tomorrow to see which process/apps uses the CPU more than the others.
For anyone commenting this post, I would like you to ask to state if you are on a stock or custom rom, as well as the kernel.
Hopefully, we can identify the cause and help the Note 3 community and finally enjoy the full power of our AWESOME phone.
Happy discussion!
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From my own experience, the cpu clock and the brightness of the screen has most to do with overheating. I have the same problem on a rootex X-note v13 (and all other xnote versions before 13), the cpu temp would reach 60 degrees celsius after 5-10 ninutes of gameplay on max brightness and stock cpu clock. BUT if I were to lower brightness to minimum and lower the cpu clock to 1.7ghz (left it at 1.7ghz since then out of laziness), it would last at least 25 minutes before reaching the same temperatures. Still, I would be curious if there is any software trigger that creates this overheat, not just the cpu and brightness. I had my phone unrooted for a very short period of time so i cannot really say, but it did feel like stock unrooted did not overheat so fast. Or maybe it was just a placebo, I do not know
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raied115 said:
Hello everybody,
I opened this thread so anyone experiencing this problem (overheating and lagging in heavy games such as: Real Racing 3, The Amazing Spiderman 2, even Candy Crush, Asphalt 8 and so on) can discuss it here and maybe we'll get a better perspective of the problem, and maybe find a solution for that.
The Problem :
The phone would heat up, sometimes to the point I can't touch the phone, and the game FPS drops significantly (the games start to lag).
It happens for me after about 5-8 min of gameplay.
From a little google search, some users reported that the problem was caused by the constant running of the IndexService(this process is responsible for Indexing files both on the internal and external sd card) process, some users formatted the sdcard and reported that it has stopped, some users reported that the problem is still there, some users replaced the sdcard with another.
For me, I'm still trying to figure out if the sdcard is the problem by running some monitoring apps like System Panel Pro, and waiting for tomorrow to see which process/apps uses the CPU more than the others.
For anyone commenting this post, I would like you to ask to state if you are on a stock or custom rom, as well as the kernel.
Hopefully, we can identify the cause and help the Note 3 community and finally enjoy the full power of our AWESOME phone.
Happy discussion!
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Not sure what could cause that problem but i cant confirm that i dont have the problem, i usualy play RR3 and Clash of clans for long periods of time, 2+ hours and my phone wont heat up at all. i do have the lastest RU official firmaware do, but even with the other ones i never got that problem, i use to hate my s4 for that but i cant be happy enoght with my note 3.
posedatull said:
From my own experience, the cpu clock and the brightness of the screen has most to do with overheating. I have the same problem on a rootex X-note v13 (and all other xnote versions before 13), the cpu temp would reach 60 degrees celsius after 5-10 ninutes of gameplay on max brightness and stock cpu clock. BUT if I were to lower brightness to minimum and lower the cpu clock to 1.7ghz (left it at 1.7ghz since then out of laziness), it would last at least 25 minutes before reaching the same temperatures. Still, I would be curious if there is any software trigger that creates this overheat, not just the cpu and brightness. I had my phone unrooted for a very short period of time so i cannot really say, but it did feel like stock unrooted did not overheat so fast. Or maybe it was just a placebo, I do not know
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sFranKv said:
Not sure what could cause that problem but i cant confirm that i dont have the problem, i usualy play RR3 and Clash of clans for long periods of time, 2+ hours and my phone wont heat up at all. i do have the lastest RU official firmaware do, but even with the other ones i never got that problem, i use to hate my s4 for that but i cant be happy enoght with my note 3.
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I will be sending the device for repairment to see what the problem is, and will report back here
Maybe there is a problem with some Exynos devices ...
Will be interesting to find out what's the cause for the problem with our high-end phone.
Update: installing other ROM + Factory reset in that ROM gave the exact same effect: overheating.
Disabling DVFS completely fixed this issue for me.
Either use the DVFS diabler app or Wanam exposed to do this.
FYI I have the n9005 so this may not work for you.
I think everyone has the hot screen issue but for me it seems to happen in certain games only.
This isn't limited to 4.4.2 either, it happened in 4.3. It really seems to point to a software issue rather than hardware.
The weird thing is its the upper portion that gets hot on my phone while the battery portion is just normal.
I have temperature software on mine and for what it's worth I've never had a warning about overheating yet.
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JJbdoggg said:
Disabling DVFS completely fixed this issue for me.
Either use the DVFS diabler app or Wanam exposed to do this.
FYI I have the n9005 so this may not work for you.
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evo4g63t said:
I think everyone has the hot screen issue but for me it seems to happen in certain games only.
This isn't limited to 4.4.2 either, it happened in 4.3. It really seems to point to a software issue rather than hardware.
The weird thing is its the upper portion that gets hot on my phone while the battery portion is just normal.
I have temperature software on mine and for what it's worth I've never had a warning about overheating yet.
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Disabling DVFS does not Solve the problem unfortunately...
The heating is where the cpu is...
It gets to the point I can't touch my phone...
I've tried different games and it kinda happens in every single heavy games... It is very annoying that I have such a powerful phone and I can't fully use it as I please...
Will try to send it to Samsung and see what they will do...
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I managed to solve the problem !
Opting out google's location based ads in Google settings , disabling Samsung DVFS , formatting the phone and SD Card (with data included), installing a custom Rom (Dr.ketan K7 ROM with some options from the AROMA installation) ,
All that has managed to solve the problem .
Now the phone just get warm , as I think it should be for such a thin and powerful device.
I hope that now everyone that have the problem can solve it and enjoy his awesome phone!
Have a great day guys!
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What CpuTemp is normal while phone is being used?
My temp fluctuates between 35-45 C (95 F -113F) while web browsing, using Tapatalk etc.
Is it something abnormal ?
My top 2 battery drains are Android OS & Android System.
Thanks
Mine overheats aswell especially on YouTube (56 celsius). Few times I discovered the minimum CPU frequency change to 1.5 ghz.
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If you have SD card, it might be causing heat and lag issues, so try to remove it then try phone, if yes then format it, if its not the cause then perhaps you have an app causing problem, so do full wipe from recovery mode, after that try phone for couple of days without downloading any app.
The problem was DVFS. SD has nothing to do with battery drain
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cornelito said:
What CpuTemp is normal while phone is being used?
My temp fluctuates between 35-45 C (95 F -113F) while web browsing, using Tapatalk etc.
Is it something abnormal ?
My top 2 battery drains are Android OS & Android System.
Thanks
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The temp seems about right.
My phone got up to 80C when I tried to play it once for more than 10 min and then it just did a reboot...
Within the Android OS and Android System services there are a lot of processes going on... You should try and pin point the exact process that causes Android OS and Android System to be active.
I'm here if you need anything else!
Jack Barrett said:
Mine overheats aswell especially on YouTube (56 celsius). Few times I discovered the minimum CPU frequency change to 1.5 ghz.
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darkshaft said:
If you have SD card, it might be causing heat and lag issues, so try to remove it then try phone, if yes then format it, if its not the cause then perhaps you have an app causing problem, so do full wipe from recovery mode, after that try phone for couple of days without downloading any app.
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Jack Barrett said:
The problem was DVFS. SD has nothing to do with battery drain
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That might just do the trick
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I use no name Rom for n900w8 seems to solve any heat issue I've had
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BeFore the format check this. after you will not want to Format fix Note 3 getting overheat -14 Reasons and answers
Hi all i have some problems with games like order and chaos 2 after 10 min of gaming staring to get low fps laging i think this phone shell take the game with easy but dont know what is the problem. Anyone have the same problem ?
maybe the phone is overheating and throttling? do you have a case on the phone? It could be that the phone's case causes the phone to overheat. Just a thought..
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maybe the phone is overheating and throttling? do you have a case on the phone? It could be that the phone's case causes the phone to overheat. Just a thought..
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I have other high games and have no problems but this one serious problem but damn with to play it normaly
I fell high heating on my phone and performance is getting so lagy fps i dont know what to do help
Warm even just when watching YouTube video, anyone faces the same issue?
I guess you also have higher battery drain than normal and some lag am I right? I also had this issue, but for me at least, one factory reset somehow fixed everything. One week since then and I haven't had any problem again.
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I guess you also have higher battery drain than normal and some lag am I right? I also had this issue, but for me at least, one factory reset somehow fixed everything. One week since then and I haven't had any problem again.
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I don't have such issues you mentioned but I might try factory reset soon
No overheating issue so far. Have you installed some application that throttle your CPU?
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No overheating issue so far. Have you installed some application that throttle your CPU?
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Do you realize what you are talking about doesn't make sense right? Throttling the CPU will only make it cooler and no I don't have an app that does that
The only time I feel the xzp heating up is, when I'm watching 4K (HDR) movies. The movies don't lag, even when the device is hot. Haven't reached a critical state until know.
I have been using my xzp for about 2 weeks and haven't experienced and heating or lagging
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
Finnishman said:
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
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LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
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LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
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Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
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Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
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I using mtweaks app
Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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The AMOLED screen on the S7 was widely regarded as the best screen on a mobile phone when it was introduced.
You're running an unofficial ROM + kernel and running into problems and are blaming the phone? Lots of people seem to hold LineageOS up as the solution to all problems, but on many devices it seems to be a giant hack.
This screen is a piece of **** (mura effect & spots when lowering the brightness), my Nexus 4 screen is at least 10X better.
I'm running Cyanogenmod/LineageOS since the very beginning, never had this kind of problem before...
The S7 Exynos phones do tend to get a bit warm if you're browsing certain websites, Facebook and streaming, and it'll get hot if you're playing resource intensive games like GTA & Bully. That's what happens when your device's CPUs can reach a max clock speed of 2704MHz. Take a look at what apps are running in the background first.
I'm only able to read the battery temp sensor, no other sensor available despite having tried a lot of monitoring apps.
Idle temp : around 29-33°C
Heavy use : up to 45°C
Past 39°C, the phone gets really uncomfortable to use.
I did further testing with another S7 (carrier firmware, brand new), launched a stress-test app on both phones at the same time and after 15 min, mine is 4°C hotter (battery temp). It's not really relevant, maybe due to my tempered glass preventing heat dissipation or some LineageOS optimizations, I don't know. Anyway, the S7 feels way hotter than my previous phones.
it's strange that power user/advanced user have to complaining about overheating and comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel. and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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have to complaining
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comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel.
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Irrelevant since the other S7 is running pretty hot too.
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and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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Yes but I only have access to the battery sensor. The frame is hot on both phone tough.
i have a snapdragon version of S7 and i don't think exynos version have overheating problem running on official firmware. running Oreo right now and still don't have such problem. and FYI using the phone INFO apps (google playstore), i can see the temperature of the cpu.
Oneplus 7 Pro gets too hot even for just gaming a few minutes to a near hour.. I think the issue was the changes made to Oxygen OS because my Oneplus 6T ALSO GETS TOO HOT now using the last few Beta updates, which was not the case in the past (I am certain).. Also a few updates ago made the 6T show the "Phone is getting too hot" message, which DID NOT HAPPEN BEFORE, so definitely something is up.
Also, all background apps have been controlled too (literally restricted every single one and already on force stop)... Still the same, gets too hot.
Even if you factory reset the device, it's still the same, so I definitely think it's the changes they made to Oxygen OS. Compare it to other Snapdragon 855 devices and you'll see that OP heats up more now even with the cooling system.
The Games that I've been playing before that produced minimal heat even in hours of gameplay are now producing too much heat in just a few minutes... This is unacceptable.
Hopefully this issue gets resolved soon, users can help in reporting and testing.
Yes I confirm that,My game exits automatically after playing for few minutes & the phone gets very hot
Which game? I tested Asphalt 9, phone never gets hot. I'm running latest stable OOS, full stock not modified
giaur said:
Which game? I tested Asphalt 9, phone never gets hot. I'm running latest stable OOS, full stock not modified
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Pes 2019, I'm also using without any modifications
giaur said:
Which game? I tested Asphalt 9, phone never gets hot. I'm running latest stable OOS, full stock not modified
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*Ragnarok M
*Errant Hunter's Soul
Dawn of Isles
*LifeAfter
Mobile Legends
Evil Lands
Extra Ordinary Ones
King of Kings
*Talion
*AxE (Alliance VS Empire)
*PUGM
The games with the * are the games that never gave the previous 6T with no problems, until the last few beta updates... And now those changes are also being felt in my 7 Pro.
The "your phone is getting hot" message didn't come before even hours of gameplay even on MAX SETTINGS, so I'm certain the problem is Kernel-side.
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Yes I confirm that,My game exits automatically after playing for few minutes & the phone gets very hot
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Yes, and I'm also using an unmodified, unrooted fully-stock Oxygen OS.
Tried everything, I think this is kernel-side changes. Hopefully more people especially mobile gamers report this problem.
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Oneplus 7 Pro gets too hot even for just gaming a few minutes to a near hour.. I think the issue was the changes made to Oxygen OS because my Oneplus 6T ALSO GETS TOO HOT now using the last few Beta updates, which was not the case in the past (I am certain).. Also a few updates ago made the 6T show the "Phone is getting too hot" message, which DID NOT HAPPEN BEFORE, so definitely something is up.
Also, all background apps have been controlled too (literally restricted every single one and already on force stop)... Still the same, gets too hot.
Even if you factory reset the device, it's still the same, so I definitely think it's the changes they made to Oxygen OS. Compare it to other Snapdragon 855 devices and you'll see that OP heats up more now even with the cooling system.
The Games that I've been playing before that produced minimal heat even in hours of gameplay are now producing too much heat in just a few minutes... This is unacceptable.
Hopefully this issue gets resolved soon, users can help in reporting and testing.
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yes I'm experiencing this issue too, it started when I tested my phone on a benchmark app and heated more than usual but from that day after it heats everytime I play PUBG or sometimes even watching Netflix.
Finally more people are experiencing this too, I tried both latest stable AND beta ver. of OOS, and had this heating issue, I even changed the Kernel to see if it'll make a difference but no.
Also, I saw some other people with the same issue on twitter, maybe someone should open an issue on the official OnePlus forums.
Hi there!
A couple of days ago I started noticing that my Oneplus 7 Pro was hotter than usual. Way hotter than usual. So I removed the 2 apps I recently installed. Nothing changed.
Just so you know, I'm using Oxygen OS 10.0.5.GM21BA with XXX NoLimits 10.2 and I haven't touched/updated the rom in weeks.
This morning my device was so hot I had to put it in the freezer.
When I took it out, I the CPU temperature: 40C (104F).
Then I let it rest for 5 min. The temperature rose to 48C (118.4).
So I used it for 10 min (normal use). It was 71C (159.8F).
The battery temperature, instead, varies between 30-ish C and 40-ish C.
I don't think this is normal at all, but I have no idea of what to do.
Any suggestions are welcome!