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Someone selling WM6 on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Windows-Mobil...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Well I must admit this is pretty low, chances are the person selling it is on this board too.
Selling your own hard work is fine, selling others non profitable hard work is pathetic, I hope the person responsible is feeling very guilty about now!

That stinks, someone should find out who this guy is?
£1.99 very appealing until you see he is charging £8.01 for postage on an electronic download.
Maybe he'll donate the money to xda developers - I don't think.

He did donate though, not much.

wm06 on ebay
Hi guys
As there is apx 244,000 members on here perhaps we should ALL ask him a question about where its from - wonder what ebay's response would be?
It might stop him from profiting from others hard work - unless of course it is genuine
regards
jon

Link please?
What a stupid person ! ! !
If it is for Universal, Video Calling is not properly working yet and he/she will be screwed.

Link is in the first post, yes he is selling the Universal without the video call!!

Have asked the question lets see what he comes back with!

WM6
Don`t think anyone will get a reply now as Ebay have removed and cancelled the posting !!...that was quick for a change!!.
Clive

And the account seems to be suspended as well.

hanmin said:
And the account seems to be suspended as well.
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judging by the feedback, hes already made £120 out of it.

Take out his selling fees and that he has been suspended from Ebay and all the trouble he's gone to the profit wasn't worth it...
Should be thrown off this site too...

WM6
Good point stelladel.....
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Reply from the seller
This is the reply I got from the seller NOT from me personally as from following post it looks if it was me IT IS NOT just to make it as clear as day (and if the mods wish to ban the seller) they can PM me and I will send his name.
I've put an ADD on email with a step by step guide to flash the devices.I've seen a lot of "mod" people bricking their devices due to a bad explanation of the flashing process,complicated links,corrupted files and so on.IE: I myself colected information from a developer site and tried to flash an Imate Jam and after the process was done...it was bricked!!!End of story I ended up with a worthless device and no support whatsoever!!!
So I had this idea of making a friendly step by step guide and offering a support to the buyers in case the flash process goes wrong. And don't tell me it is a risk free process...For instace from the 15 roms I've sold out I had to give support for 3 buyers that even with the step by step guide they manage to not completely follow the steps and needed extra support (such as special roms that are able to recover half bricked devices).
So what I actually offer is a lower risk to the buyers.Up to 85% of my buyers know that these tool I'm selling might be "free" elsewhere. But this "free" means no support as well.So this is a great value for money choice as all the tec stuff and tools needed are gathered together with download links,explanation,step by step guide and support by email or msn or even by phone in English, Portuguese or Spanish.
So this is what I offer. Part of the money gathered are sent to the development site so we can keep improving HTC devices.
Best Regards
(I do have his name but not that evil to post it)

sure, that's why you want 8 Bucks for the Download right?
You suck guy, no one here will believe your stupid "oh i did nothing wrong" bull....
You tried to earn Money with other peoples work and with non-licensed software. You can't deny that and that's exactly why you should be banned out of every single ppc-board (this, pdamobiz, etc) forever.
Everyone gets support here within a few hours, i don't think some like you is only even almost able to replace all the knowledge of the pplz in this and other ppc-boards.
So got and tell your fairytales some who is stupid enough to believe you.

Reply to the seller
Whether you offered support or not is not applicable, the simple fact is you tried to profiteer from other peoples work without their permission.
You broke the ethics of this board in doing so, caused a certain amount of distress - these actions you took without consideration to the developers, or board members.
If you believe you perceived intentions were honourable and justified then that is your opinion. I believe as do others that posted on this topic you were wrong to do so, as apparently do Ebay.

D2G/DPro SBF has been publicly released (link inside)

Just saw a series of tweets from @P3Droid saying they're looking for a soft-bricked D2G or Pro to test SBF files on. He said he's in the Phoenix area so do yourself and everyone else a favor if you've got a phone to send him and get that sucker fixed!
Edit: At 11:30 p.m. EST on 1/2/2011, @P3Droid tweeted that they will be publicly releasing the SBF files for both the D2G and Pro within the next 12 hours. I'll post a link to their posting once it's up. Note that they caution you to grab the stuff ASAP as it will likely be taken down by Moto via C&D (not that there won't be plenty of mirrors after that)
Edit2: It looks like links are up on Team Black Hat's forum. I assume since this is now for free there is no issue linking to their forum but if anyone better versed than I in the rules disagrees, please say so and I'll take the link down.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-2-global-sbf-file-2-4-29-full-rsdlite.html
Again, thanks to Team Black Hat for the great work they do and for the decision to rapidly release this SBF publicly. Hopefully the short window between it being kept exclusive to their app and the public release will not deter folks from supporting the cause.

bout time. This will really get the modding community going for the global finally. Hear that all they need to do now is test it and they'll be set.

Yes this is very good news.
See my post down further as to see why I say this isn't good news.
Hint: This smells like a scam.

i hope that this is true, then we could start seeing a lot more modds dfor the d2g

Of course, 2 days after i send my brick in to verizon. good news tho

If you check the twitter account it says that the phone must be mailed just like the band unlock guy... I smell a scam and I for one do not recommend sending any phones by mail to anyone you don't know. You're just asking to have your phone stolen.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says that you must mail the phone to them or that you must meet them in person. If they really want to be trust worthy they will just give you the link to the file straight up. If they needed testers then they can setup a private channel on irc or something.

This is not a scam.
All of the members of TBH have NS(Non Secured) flash dev phones because that is what we personally chose to spend our own money on.
We also have consumer hardware test phones for other models but not the D2G or Pro.
We cannot test the SBF files we got recently on our phones and cannot afford to purchase these models at full retail to test the files.
We are well established in the community and have provided virtually all of the leaked SBF files for all of the Droid devices in existence.
Our record of community service stands for itself and has no comparable parallel.
Everybody wants these files and we want to release them so users who have soft bricked can recover and everyone can breathe a little easier modding these phones.
I would ask anyone who questions our motives how much of their own money they have spent on providing the community with such valuable resources as these files?
Anybody?
I thought so...

cellzealot said:
This is not a scam.
All of the members of TBH have NS(Non Secured) flash dev phones because that is what we personally chose to spend our own money on.
We also have consumer hardware test phones for other models but not the D2G or Pro.
We cannot test the SBF files we got recently on our phones and cannot afford to purchase these models at full retail to test the files.
We are well established in the community and have provided virtually all of the leaked SBF files for all of the Droid devices in existence.
Our record of community service stands for itself and has no comparable parallel.
Everybody wants these files and we want to release them so users who have soft bricked can recover and everyone can breathe a little easier modding these phones.
I would ask anyone who questions our motives how much of their own money they have spent on providing the community with such valuable resources as these files?
Anybody?
I thought so...
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Beautiful post and well said!
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App

cellzealot said:
This is not a scam.
All of the members of TBH have NS(Non Secured) flash dev phones because that is what we personally chose to spend our own money on.
We also have consumer hardware test phones for other models but not the D2G or Pro.
We cannot test the SBF files we got recently on our phones and cannot afford to purchase these models at full retail to test the files.
We are well established in the community and have provided virtually all of the leaked SBF files for all of the Droid devices in existence.
Our record of community service stands for itself and has no comparable parallel.
Everybody wants these files and we want to release them so users who have soft bricked can recover and everyone can breathe a little easier modding these phones.
I would ask anyone who questions our motives how much of their own money they have spent on providing the community with such valuable resources as these files?
Anybody?
I thought so...
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I do apologize as I'm new to having a Motorola device and thus do not know all of the developers yet for this brand of hardware. I recently came over from an HTC phone which has the Unrevoked team behind it for rooting purposes and so forth.
I only claimed that this seemed like a scam as I'm cautious about these short of things and your request asking for phones to be mailed seems very much so a tail tell sign of a scam. Again I apologize if this is your preferred operating procedure.
If I had better information about your group/organization then I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. If I had a soft bricked phone and had this information before hand I would have been more willing to help out. Though I personally still do not want to ship any phone via the mail. I would prefer an in person meeting where this test could then be conducted.
I too understand these phones are not cheap and it's not easy for developers to obtain consumer devices for testing purposes. Since these phones cost so much is why I'm cautious when it comes to someone asking for a phone to be mailed in.

I think the best way to test whether its an sbf or not is to make a new thread with links to it and a disclaimer, if it works, hey, that's awesome, if it doesnt, who cares, the phones its being tested on are already softbricked anyhow.
My question is, what if it is the sbf? Besides fixing softbricked phones, what more can be done with it?
Sent from my WICKED FAST Droid 2 Global with fission using XDA app

boomertwo said:
I do apologize as I'm new to having a Motorola device and thus do not know all of the developers yet for this brand of hardware. I recently came over from an HTC phone which has the Unrevoked team behind it for rooting purposes and so forth.
I only claimed that this seemed like a scam as I'm cautious about these short of things and your request asking for phones to be mailed seems very much so a tail tell sign of a scam. Again I apologize if this is your preferred operating procedure.
If I had better information about your group/organization then I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. If I had a soft bricked phone and had this information before hand I would have been more willing to help out. Though I personally still do not want to ship any phone via the mail. I would prefer an in person meeting where this test could then be conducted.
I too understand these phones are not cheap and it's not easy for developers to obtain consumer devices for testing purposes. Since these phones cost so much is why I'm cautious when it comes to someone asking for a phone to be mailed in.
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I think the best way to test whether its an sbf or not is to make a new thread with links to it and a disclaimer, if it works, hey, that's awesome, if it doesnt, who cares, the phones its being tested on are already softbricked anyhow.
My question is, what if it is the sbf? Besides fixing softbricked phones, what more can be done with it?
Sent from my WICKED FAST Droid 2 Global with fission using XDA app
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We will not release anything until we have had a chance to thoroughly test it for ourselves, not all things we get are worth releasing.
To be honest this thread started good but really went silly rather quickly. Neither Cell nor myself need to defend the work we have done for the community and to state that we are scamming is asinine. As Cell stated we have lots of devices in many different flavors, they are not consumer phones therefore we can not always test things that we would like to.
I'm sure you know what TBH does and what we have done, if not you can most likely find 1 or 2 posts about us online somewhere. This is not a question of us not knowing what the files are, we know what we have in hand therefore that is not the question being asked. The request is for a consumer device to test this on.
So if you know someone with a phone that is inoperable have them contact us, so we can help them out and in return help out the entire community.
P3Droid
TBH

Has anyone offered to send a phone to you yet? Where are you located?

No, I went and bought a new D2G from VZW tonight so I can manage this myself.
Once testing is complete we will decide when and how to release the SBF file.
You're welcome...

sorry if I came off as a bit "silly" i do know about tbh and their contributions to the droid community. i was just suggesting an alternative way of testing this, but i understand your concern about releasing it publicly, it may cause more harm than good.
while im here, might i ask if the 3g mobile hotspot patch can be made for the d2g, seeing as how you have a d2g now? ive been waiting a while hoping that someone can make the patch for the d2g.

cellzealot said:
No, I went and bought a new D2G from VZW tonight so I can manage this myself.
Once testing is complete we will decide when and how to release the SBF file.
You're welcome...
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Hey guys, sorry for the harassment/doubters. Unfortunately, the couple of posters who got on here were too lazy to follow the links on your twitter account to the website where it can be clearly seen just how crazy active you guys are on the Android scene and how reasonable you are with these types of requests.
Thanks so much for all the work you do to make Android phones do what they're supposed to do (stupid carriers with their stupidity). You guys do great work and I, for one, appreciate it a lot! Looking forward to the release

cellzealot said:
No, I went and bought a new D2G from VZW tonight so I can manage this myself.
Once testing is complete we will decide when and how to release the SBF file.
You're welcome...
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This is very generous from your side!
I don't know about others, but I think we should establish a fund or something like that to cover such expenses for our development teams. I am totally willing to shell some money for having the peace of mind of having the SBF file for my D2G laying around ready shall the need arise.
Right now (without SBF) I am reluctant of touching anything on my phone due to lack of safe way out. I am not in the States and exchanging the phone will cost me considerable amount of money and efforts.
Not sure if I should start a new thread for this as cellzealot already bought the phone, but I if this gets somehow organized, I am in with $20 to offset the expense. $20 is much less than what I would have to pay to ship the phone anywhere for whatever reason.
cellzealot, does your team have a paypal or something we can use for the purpose?

I have a Droid2Global that boots but is stuck at the stupid Backup Manager screen and doesn't allow me to go anywhere else. If you want, I'm more than happy to try the SBF out on that D2G if you send me the SBF. PM me if you want me to try it.

@leobg: Thanks for the offer of support.
We really don't care for the practice of plastering donate buttons all over in every forum where we post...so we don't do it.
The best way to support TeamBlackHat and the continued availability of these files and our other development projects is to purchase our app in the market for the extremely reasonable sum of $2.00 US. It is just a downloader that provides our users with access to all of the various leaks and other files. There is a filter that only presents content for the specific connected device.
There is also a donate button at the top of the screen for further support if you are feeling generous, thanks. The files are made available via the app exclusively for some period and then posted publicly for everyone later on MyDroidWorld. http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/forum.php
That is our way of providing a perk for our supporters and also assuring that all content is made available to the entire community.
This also prevents us from being accused of "selling leaks", despite the fact that those making such accusations have no clue whatsoever how these files are acquired or at what cost.
This is what we do and have been doing for most of the past year or so since the advent of Motorola Android phones with the original Droid.
There is no profit in this at all...trust me...it's just a way for us to absorb some of the cost of our passion for these devices and serve a unique and critical function to meet need for these kinds of files.
Nobody else has consistently proven to have access to these files except us and we have released every flash file for every Motorola Droid device in existence with the exception of two that RootzWiki released.
We don't do a lot of self promotion and prancing around on forums attracting attention to ourselves, that's not our way.
Thanks again for your interest and support!

Just sent you a donation for your work on the droid 2 global sbf. Your work is much appreciated!
THANK YOU!
-Strandedhuman

I have just purchased the TBH app from market. Plan to use the donate link there very soon. I really appreciate your efforts guys!
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL

[SUGGESTION] Setting a Bounty on the bootloader.

As most of you would know, we have learned quite a bit about Defy bootloader during the last week.
We always thought that Motorola don't have a method to unlock production defys (defys shipped to end users). Well we have sufficient information now to prove that Motorola have a method, and that it converts production defys to engineering defys (Phones used by Motorola engineers to make ROMs and other stuff)
This is actually better than a simple unlocked boot-loader because eng defys have unlimited applications (because we have direct access to MOBO/CPU) like overclocking gpu, installing other OS like Ubuntu, Debian, WP7 etc. into NAND and a lot more.
So the problem here is that the tools required for ENG switch is only available to Motorola employees. Till now we have no further information on it. The tools are TI OMAP BOARD CONFIGURATION TOOL and a 16MB .bin file. Other significance of this method is that it might also unlock other phones with OMAP(3xxx/xxxx?) board. Also this method seems to be very stable.
So the good news is that this software is available for most Motorola repair centers. That means it would be easier to get a leak. Of course the highly paid Motorola engineers with 6digit paycheck wont leak it but we should consider low level repair executives (they already leak sbfs and RSDlite).
So my suggestion is we start a bounty thread in XDA to tempt them.
If you have a solution and if you are concerned about anonymity, please PM me.
PS : There are lots of bounty threads in xda.

Hi,
Setting a Bounty would be cool, but is legal ?
Cause it is not like "I pay you a lot of money if you steal this software for me"

the|gamer said:
Hi,
Setting a Bounty would be cool, but is legal ?
Cause it is not like "I pay you a lot of money if you steal this software for me"
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hmm. It depend's on which country you are from.

I'm quite on it. Minimum/maximum fee could be set (like US$2 min and 20 bucks max, or anything like this). And someone with access to Motorola's employees (I think the user racca works on a Moto distributor, but I'm not sure of it, I think he mentioned it in some thread a few months ago) could rush and "bribe" them. If people could be a bit more clear about which kind of employees should have access to this software, I could try and convince one of them (you know, people here in Brazil aren't that much into honesty, but are a lot into money) about heading us a leak from TI's software. I'll have to take my phone to MOTOAssist soon ("menu" and "back" keys' backlights are weaker than normal), so I'd have at least an actual reason to talk to an assist technician (assuming they have access to the board configuration tool).
Yet, since I'm no hacker (yet, I'm planning on getting a Nook Color - which community here in XDA seems to provide all you need to start your own ROM - and starting messing around with it) nor coder (know only a little about C programming), I would not try and mess around with TI's software, but only upload it somewhere and give you guys a link for it.

K3n bH1mur4 said:
I'm quite on it. Minimum/maximum fee could be set (like US$2 min and 20 bucks max, or anything like this).
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We could even promote it with ads. The best way would be to set up our on website, maybe in Brazil(or with some webhost who would like to host this) where you could bribe your way out and then promote it with ads. There is a remote chance that XDA might not approve a bounty thread here (of illegal implications), but we could publish the website here and all other major forums (chinese forums as well).

royale1223 said:
We could even promote it with ads. The best way would be to set up our on website, maybe in Brazil(or with some webhost who would like to host this) where you could bribe your way out and then promote it with ads. There is a remote chance that XDA might not approve a bounty thread here (of illegal implications), but we could publish the website here and all other major forums (chinese forums as well).
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Dunno, since it's illegal, it may not be the best option to promote it. Obviously, it's still not immoral, but we all know that morality and law often do not converge, so it may be better to go rogue, talking in private with motoassist technicians and stuff like that, because, even if we're just fighting for our rights, we're still using non-legal ways, and risking to be sued for it.

I don't think promoting a website is illegal. What's illegal is hosting an illegal one.

Promoting a website who promises cash for employees of a corporation who leak internal software used by that corp. might be considered illegal in most places. Fortunately (or not, I'll explain why), we have jurisprudence to embase of: in september 1st, last year, a judge here in Brazil condemned Moto to update a customer's Dext/CLIQ to Android 2.1 (Moto did not provide this update here in Brazil, even though it did in many countries) without voiding the warranty.
I know it's just one case, in just one country, and updating an android version is way different than providing unlocked bootloaders (or the tools for users to do so). And, yes, I agree with placing a bounty at the tool. Yet, if we get caught, Moto can still argue that we had other ways to pursue our rights, and we should have used the justice system to do so, if we believed we were that right. Yet, they're a multimillion-worthy company (even bigger after being purchased by Google), and we're a bunch of broke users, at most devs making a couple thousand dollars, and would have little chance against their lawyers. Last, but not least, employers who help us may get caught and fired because of us, and I sincerely want nobody (ok, maybe a few of the highest executives) to get fired just for me to get an unlocked BL.
So, my point is: let's make this a stealth action. Get a reason for your phone to be taken to Motoassist (no intentional bricking, please! You must flash an official SBF before taking it there! - at least if your phone is still under warranty), get to talk with one of their technicians, and mention - indifferently - that some guys are giving alway big money for any Moto employee who leaks that TI OMAP software. Something like this: "hey, did you hear that crazy devs at this dev forum are paying the first moto technician to hand them some sort of software? Something OMAP-related, I don't know for sure. All I know is that the reward is some nice cash."
When the word spread, we could have an unlocked bootloader within a month.
Yet, we got a single issue to deal: how to ensure the person who gives us the SW first will actually receive the cash? I've seen a few bounties here before, but them all were settled by XDA devs (so the bounty keeper could just donate the sum to that dev), never saw something like paying "outsiders".

One of my friends (Defy+ user) has a contact with a Motorola service guy. He says that that guy knows everything about Motorola software and he's with us because he himself uses custom ROMs and controls an entire service center. He's ready to take my device under warranty though it's rooted along every single hack/MOD for Defy installed
Will try contacting him
And let's post this in the forums of all other locked Motorola devices with OMAP 3xxx chips.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

swapnil360 said:
One of my friends (Defy+ user) has a contact with a Motorola service guy. He says that that guy knows everything about Motorola software and he's with us because he himself uses custom ROMs and controls an entire service center. He's ready to take my device under warranty though it's rooted along every single hack/MOD for Defy installed
Will try contacting him
And let's post this in the forums of all other locked Motorola devices with OMAP 3xxx chips.
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App
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Talk with this guy. If he has access to a copy of TI's SW, and handle it to us, I'm pretty sure we could him get a nice reward. Not as high as if putting a bounty, but definitely enough to make the effort worth it.
I mean, supposing that this is actually gonna help unlock EVERY OMAP 3 (and possibly all OMAP-based phones) out there, and that this way the process is reversible (at least to me, it looks like no eFuse is being blown there, you know, assistance technicians can't just blow eFuses like that - taking the phone to the assistance under warranty shouldn't void it, and that's what a blown eFuse would do), loads of people would help. Imagine a single dollar from every OMAP 3 XDA user (take a look here for an INCOMPLETE list of OMAP 3 devices with ~30 ANDROID ONLY phones/tablets), that would make a lot of money.

this is good....and i think it will be best to not mention the location,identities,or any hint of similarities of the perosn source once you guys get contacts & manifests from that guy(source). so as not to compromise his profession.
he could be fired & worse can be sued by leaking private details.
best discuss it in private,after getting in touch w/ him...
just a tought of CAUTION...

hailmary said:
this is good....and i think it will be best to not mention the location,identities,or any hint of similarities of the perosn source once you guys get contacts & manifests from that guy(source). so as not to compromise his profession.
he could be fired & worse can be sued by leaking private details.
best discuss it in private,after getting in touch w/ him...
just a tought of CAUTION...
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Yeah we would ensure him that.

I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials

hemil said:
I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials
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do u know motorola mobility service center in mbai?
we only hav private shops with motos certificate...
i dont think they can help...
all they say is we'll send it to factory(?)
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

@hemil Please pm me.

hemil said:
I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials
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Hey buddy... just wait for my call today...
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

Putting up an ads offering money for violation the law may be a bit problematic. No website will be excited to host it. Another issue is that in the end someone will have to actually post it, someone in particular. And that one person will be in danger of being a subject of interest of various law enforcement agencies. You know, at the end of the day they always want someone to put the responsibility on, the culprit, a scapegoat. So you make heat and you put some particular person into it even before there is any result.
I would prefer to focus more on personal face to face private communications with the service guys. It's harder to prove and if something goes wrong (the guy records it etc.) our guy can always say he was just kidding, bullshitting, bigmouthing.
Anyway, if you are thinking about this seriously, here are few remarks.
don't offer the particular sum, it's not tactical; not even here should be mentioned any particular number; instead, let the service guy ask his price
if the first contact with a potential source is established, ask first for a proof; specify what the proof is supposed to be (a screenshot? a video recording of the software in action?)
figure out a way how to actually collect the money; people are willing to donate but they will not donate to anyone, only to someone trustworthy (but Epsylon will surely want to have nothing to do with everything even remotely questionable, let alone illegal); the "collector" will be under the lights, he may get attention of people we don't want to deal with
who actually will be allowed to donate? anyone? how to avoid an agent to donate and then simply track where the money is going?
figure out a way how to actually make a safe and smooth deal (money <-> software); will it be in person or electronically? how to verify we are given what we paid for? classical problem: no one of both parties is willing to make his move first, but we can't give away the money for a software we would start verifying not until the money is gone
figure out how to avoid being robbed (fake offers from people who would want to grab the money and run away) as well as being caught (fake offers from the dummy guy - LE agent); in both cases the correct proof might be given, though, but the intentions are wrong
For the particular mechanics of the exchange in person, one of numerous possible ways may go like this:
our guy comes with an intentionally bricked Defy repairable only with the software in question together with the ordinary USB cable (or without, if special USB cable is needed; in that case the cable must be part of the deal), and with an empty flash drive recognizable at the first sight; no money on him
our guy passes the flash drive and the Defy (and the USB cable, if no special cable is needed) to the "source" and watches closely
the source copies the software onto the flash drive, runs the software from the flash drive, connects the Defy via the cable provided and actually unbricks the phone (this must be more elaborated on; what if the software uses some libraries from the windows directories etc. which are not copied onto the flash drive? he may or may not have the installer, but just copying the installer isn't enough, he would have to copy the installer on the flash drive, then run the installer from it and install it back onto the flash drive and run it from there)
our guy gets the phone (and the cable) back, the source unplugs the flash drive and keeps it for now, our guy watches the flash drive is not connected to anything from now on
now the software is copied onto the flash drive and verified it's working, thus ordinary hand-to-hand exchange may proceed; our guy didn't bring the money to avoid being robbed, they both now may go grab the money or our guy may call his buddy with the money etc. (also needs to be heavily elaborated on)
Sensitive parts must be detailed in-depth, I am just indicating the outline, one of many possible. Still it's very far from perfect.
As you can see it's not that easy and there are many potential points of failure so this action may never really come to the practical realization.
What about a little bit different or alternative ways? Are there any? It would be useful to ask Epsylon what he would actually wish for the most - had he been able to wish for anything.

isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..
i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???

rishi2100 said:
isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..
i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???
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huh !! think about moto when they actually ditch us with promises ? whats wrong if what we are screaming for last 1 year . and didnt get any updates ? huh think about tht before u speak about illegal stuffs . if moto is doing all sought of ways to keep us away from our rights . what we do undercover to get us right can no way be questioned when we have told thousands of times that we need updates .
more over the authority can question us only and only when they are themselves self guilt free .... but instead they are pretending to be saint sitting behind the curtains and doing all sought of locking stuff to deprive us of our rights

@jhonsmithx Let's not get ahead of ourselves. First of all lets concentrate on getting the source. Also I urge users to use a bit of social engineering to do that(using fb/g ). We'll put together a plan according to the situation after that. Also note that this is a pretty long shot. We might not get a source after all.
rishi2100 said:
isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..
i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???
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I could think of atleast 10 ways to share anonymously. Though I wont be posting them here.

ACT now for bootloader unlock | Official Whatsapp and Telegram groups Realme1

Hello folks,
So i've recently bought realmeone recently primarily due to its hardware. Am not a big fan of color os tbh and in my limited research found some stuff from the internet
First, the bad bit :
Realme1's twin brother oppo F7 still has no way of unlocking bootloader.
Oppo seems to have disabled (deleted?) fastboot binaries.
Expecting GPL compliance from mediatek SOC is asking a bit too much.
Now the good bit :
Realme1 is project treble ready.
We've had examples treble doing wonders for even obscure mediatek devices like this one.
Root and twrp and custom roms are only possible once we have a working way to unlock the phone. And with the issues like messed up multi tasking atleast on the 3gb variant (which i have by the way) it becomes all the more important to have a good custom rom scene to fall back to if color os becomes too unbearable.
I'd assume anyone whose come looking for realmone here on xda, like me, would want to see some dev support for this awesome device. So I am hoping all you folks would take some time and mail oppo at [email protected] asking to make the device's boot loader unlockable.
For those of us who are laziest here's a draft that you can copy paste but i urge people who have time to make their own mail body so that every mail wont look same
Dear oppo,
First of all, as a user of realmeone, thanks for this great value for money smartphone. Many of us power users in the realmeone community would love to have the option to unlock the boot loader so as to be able to root the device. Rooting is essential to some of us who've been used to some nifty root tools like system wide ad blocker etc. We hope oppo will help us exploit full potential of its hardware by allowing boot loader unlock at the earliest.
Thanks
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We've also have whatsapp and telegram group for realme1 running to better co ordinate these things and help each other out, find links below:
PS : If anyone knows any other mail id to contact them, feel free to point out I'll add that too here.

Done, email sent! Though I've just ordered my phone and yet to receive it. :laugh:

We can backup and flash images using miracle box. I mean I haven't personally tried because I don't have miracle box but have seen in the forums that ppl are backing up invidiual images n flashing the firmware back into the device.
I don't know how miracle box works but if some genius can help us then maybe we can make some easy fastboot/sp Tools based tools to flash images..
I'm talking about Oppo f7..

I've already mailed and got response that there's no way I can unlock bootloader and they also told me that it voids warranty and crap so they don't provide that. Regarding kernel sources, they simply ignored it.
I'm going to return the phone back to Amazon. No wonder why XDA opened a forum for OPPO phones which is not developer friendly.

1manshow said:
Done, email sent! Though I've just ordered my phone and yet to receive it. :laugh:
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Sorry but had to cancel the order due to stubborn policy of Oppo not allowing bootloader unlock and fastboot binaries. There won't be any development for this phone despite being such a good phone. Heck, I need root for few of my favorite apps and thus can't miss them due to this stupid policy by OEM. No thanks, will wait for Mi A2 or buy Asus zenfone max pro

I think we can plead them through change.org

1manshow said:
Sorry but had to cancel the order due to stubborn policy of Oppo not allowing bootloader unlock and fastboot binaries. There won't be any development for this phone despite being such a good phone. Heck, I need root for few of my favorite apps and thus can't miss them due to this stupid policy by OEM. No thanks, will wait for Mi A2 or buy Asus zenfone max pro
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Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 having Resurrection Remix OFFICIAL already

mail sent

Finally Amazon agreed to take away the phone. Today the guy took the phone back and hopefully the refund will be processed soon. Screw you OPPO for your ****ty policies. I shouldn't have bought your phone at first place. No bootloader unlock=go to hell.
Now, search for another phone begins.

Daruwalla said:
Finally Amazon agreed to take away the phone. Today the guy took the phone back and hopefully the refund will be processed soon. Screw you OPPO for your ****ty policies. I shouldn't have bought your phone at first place. No bootloader unlock=go to hell.
Now, search for another phone begins.
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On what ground did you returned the phone to Amazon? I am planning to return. Just wanted to confirm......

apat26 said:
On what ground did you returned the phone to Amazon? I am planning to return. Just wanted to confirm......
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I just chatted with cc and told him the phone has ram management issues and ask him to check the reviews, everyone is complaining about it. He asked if I need a replacement or return, I politely told him to refund/return, he processed the return request.
This is the first time I ever returned something to Amazon so may be that's why the cc agreed easily. Your mileage will vary. Good luck.

Daruwalla said:
I just chatted with cc and told him the phone has ram management issues and ask him to check the reviews, everyone is complaining about it. He asked if I need a replacement or return, I politely told him to refund/return, he processed the return request.
This is the first time I ever returned something to Amazon so may be that's why the cc agreed easily. Your mileage will vary. Good luck.
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Thanks dear. Even I will be doing so for the first time.
Lets see.

Dear Sravan,
We are glad to see your interest towards RealMe 1 and deeply regret the inconvenience caused.
As per your inquiry regarding Rooting of the device, we would like to bring to your notice that we have taken your feedback and shared the same with the relevant team so that they can look into your suggestions.
In case of any further suggestion/inquiry, you can also contact us by calling on our toll-free number 1800-102-2777 from Monday to Sunday, 0900 AM to 0700 PM or you can also reply back to us on the same email.
Regards,
Palak
RealMe Mobiles

sankarsravz said:
Dear Sravan,
We are glad to see your interest towards RealMe 1 and deeply regret the inconvenience caused.
As per your inquiry regarding Rooting of the device, we would like to bring to your notice that we have taken your feedback and shared the same with the relevant team so that they can look into your suggestions.
In case of any further suggestion/inquiry, you can also contact us by calling on our toll-free number 1800-102-2777 from Monday to Sunday, 0900 AM to 0700 PM or you can also reply back to us on the same email.
Regards,
Palak
RealMe Mobiles
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Hi Palak,
Please count my vote in for unlocking bootloader. I'm sure the realme line up will enjoy more popularity if this happens.

Mail got replay
Their response shown below
"We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused. As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device."

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Their response shown below
"We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused. As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device."
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Which means root is possible
Third party boot-loader
Sent from my MotoG3 using XDA Labs

What third party are they even talking about? The bootloader has to be unlockable to do anything, unless they find some exploits.
Has anyone tried the oem fastboot unlock command?

A Request to RealMe Officials
Hi, The RealMe Team
This device really has got the attention of the people with it's specifications, just like how Xiaomi redmi phones did but unfortunately this Locked Bootloader thing is really making me feel as if i am using an Apple, please let the people enjoy their freedom of using an Android. Perhaps in return company will gain more customers.
Thank You.
Regards
Avneet

Has anyone tried the Kingoroot app on the phone? I know MediaTek phones can be difficult to root but I was able to root MTK6737 devices with Kingoroot. It does not unlock the bootloader or anything but it gives you root privileges.

I use Oppo F7 and it won't work on the phone...

Question [CLOSED] FRP bypass on Android 11

Hello there,
I recently got scammed buying new phone on the Internet. Indeed the phone got locked a few days later and I am now stuck with the Google Account. The phone is a European Samsung Galaxy A12.
Before to write this post, I looked for a solution and the best tutorial I found is a 2020 one that you can find there : https://technastic.com/remove-frp-s...Removing_FRP_on_Samsung_with_Combination_File.
This tutorial actually consist into reinstalling a brand new firmware. I don't know if it worked and if it still works because I am stucked at the USB debug enabling step. I couldn't have found any way to enable that developer mode being Google locked. By the way, what is the tool to bypass FRP : ADB or fastboot mode, I didn't understand the difference between.
Thanks for reading!

Return for refund...

I am looking for serious help, no trolling please.. This is a second hand phone........

Ratatthack said:
I am looking for serious help, no trolling please.. This is a second hand phone........
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There's this tool I once used to bypass frp I don't know if it still works

Allehandro said:
There's this tool I once used to bypass frp I don't know if it still works
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Hi Allehandro, It seems u forgot the link of the "tool"

Ratatthack said:
I am looking for serious help, no trolling please.. This is a second hand phone........
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Best advice. Expect the imei to be blacklisted as well. If anyone is doing something sketchy it's you... not me. So it's not a "new" phone...

Ratatthack said:
Hi Allehandro, It seems u forgot the link of the "tool"
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**Mod edit: Link removed**

Ratatthack said:
Hi Allehandro, It seems u forgot the link of the "tool"
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hope you know how to use it

blackhawk said:
Best advice. Expect the imei to be blacklisted as well. If anyone is doing something sketchy it's you... not me. So it's not a "new" phone...
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Well, I have some difficulties to understand how a brand new phone can be Google account locked.......... When I said "new" it meant it was my new phone..................................... Thanks for your help anw, really no more time for trolling sorry

Allehandro said:
hope you know how to use it
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I don't know it but it looks promising. I will try it out and come back for news for anyone having the same issue than me.
Thanks for your help Allehandro!

Ratatthack said:
Well, I have some difficulties to understand how a brand new phone can be Google account locked.......... When I said "new" it meant it was my new phone..................................... Thanks for your help anw, really no more time for trolling sorry
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When a new member with what maybe a stolen phone calls me a troll... I'm having trouble understanding if it's a legitimate purchase why you wouldn't return it most ricki tick
FRP may be the least of your troubles. Just because it's not blacklisted now doesn't mean it won't be next month.

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When a new member with what maybe a stolen phone calls me a troll... I'm having trouble understanding if it's a legitimate purchase why you wouldn't return it most ricki tick
FRP may be the least of your troubles. Just because it's not blacklisted now doesn't mean it won't be next month.
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**Mod edit: Disrespectful language removed. Flaming will not be tolerated.**

The issue here is FRP (Factory Reset Protection) exists to prevent theft of devices, wherein a device associated with a Google account will require the original unlock code in order to be used, so as to prevent a thief from using a stolen device after a wipe.
You are all reminded of the XDA Forum Rules:
9. Don't get us into trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things which will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably shouldn't do it here either. This does not mean that we agree with everything that the software piracy lobby try to impose on us. It simply means that you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with the legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users and those that write great code.
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The legality here is questionable at best, needless to say. Do not link software that can be used for illegal purposes.

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@Ratatthack I agree with @blackhawk assessment - your best option is to contact the seller and request they unlock the device, or a refund. If the device is stolen, it's quite likely that the IMEI will be blacklisted, in which case you'll be unable to use the device anyway. This is not a "troll" answer - it is the most reasonable one. While no one here is accusing you of stealing the phone, or being in possession of stolen property, what you are asking is akin to hotwiring a car. You don't have the key, for some reason, and you got the "car" secondhand, so you're asking for help hotwiring it. The circumstances of how you got the phone are irrelevant, as well as whatever reasons why you don't have the key. So, the safest response is "either get the key from the seller or return the car and get your money back". No reasonable person would have a problem with this answer. If the seller is legitimate, they should have no problem helping you unlock the device. But, given your description of the circumstances, it sounds like you have indeed been scammed. Unfortunately, there isn't much that can be done to help you, beyond contacting law enforcement.
The problem here is the FRP lock itself. Factory Reset Protection exists to 1) protect that individual's data, and 2) prevent use of a stolen device. This is why we recommend using sites such as Swappa to protect both buyers and sellers. The fact remains that while the FRP unlock ("hotwire") itself is not illegal, the purposes it is frequently used for are indeed very illegal, and XDA's policy is to prohibit any legally questionable discussions on this platform.
Therefore, I have locked this thread, and removed links to questionable software. I hope this clarifies XDA's position for all involved; if you have any questions, feel free to contact the moderator staff.