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Hi everyone! I want to buy a new phone and I'm in for these 3. I'm a moderate user, focused mostly on YouTube and Netflix, some games (arena of valor mostly), and general Web use. I want a good screen, good battery life and decent performance. Mi8 don't have a headphone jack, but have a AMOLED display. I don't know about the quality of pocophone screen, and the Mi9T screen seems to be so gorgeus. Anyway, what you can tell about this three, especially for videos and games?
Get the poco add me on aov my name is GRAZED
Mate, go to a store, look at the phones your interested in and make a decision...
Each persons view is unique and what sells me a phone may be unimportant to you... You will probably find people here are a little biased towards the Pocophone. If you go to those other phone forums you will probably get most people saying to get their phone as they will be biased there, and most people won't downtalk their product (unless it's REALLY bad) due to the fact we like to think our product/advice is best...
There is a myriad of videos on youtube extolling the virtues/problems with each phone...
In the end it comes down to you...
lets reverse the analysis
why you should not buy Mi8 (over Pocof1)
- it has similar soc
- no 3.5mm jack
- no expandable storage
- lower battery
- same big notch like pocof1
why you should not buy mi9
- where its SD855 & larger Screen to Pocoft & Mi8.... the battery is even smaller than Mi8
- No 3.5mm jack &
-no expandable storage
- the chipset has broken in to more complex setup where 2.4ghz x1 single and rest stays on lower end unless required, perhaps this way mi9 is saving batter
- poco f1 &mi8 chips set is gold/sliver plated but mi9 specs on gsmarena doesn't mention any such
now why you should buy POCO f1 in 2019..?
- other MI successors are usually missing headfone jack and expandable storage (this is v imp for me / i don't know about u )
- with a few niptuck differences on mi8 / mi9 you will pay more on these devices where Poco f1 is relatively cheaper now.
- soon 5g devices will be out THEN it makes more sense to upgrade and if you buy Mi8/mi9 .. they both are 4g devices only then you will left with no choice to force upgrade yourself! , so its better to buy Poco f1 on cheaper prices NOW so that by next 6-9 months when market is saturated with 5g devices you can easily upgrade.
another angle for pocof1
- local shops have many accessories and you will able to find covers/wallets/protectors etc (poco f1 screen protector is same as Iphone XR ) ( my poco has Iphone XR 9h strong screen protector, fits 99% accurately!
- POCO F1 is Very popular device (after Redmi Note5 / 5+ / 5pro) and XDA has so much on Pocof1 already, many rom, methods, easy to root tips! where for Mi8/mi9 you will have to wait many weeks for developers to release stable roms! ,,
i always check these things before buying any device(s)
dont buy anything from xiaomi see damn freeze thread and youll see the pain if you got corrupt xiaomi device like ****y poco
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Hi everyone! I want to buy a new phone and I'm in for these 3. I'm a moderate user, focused mostly on YouTube and Netflix, some games (arena of valor mostly), and general Web use. I want a good screen, good battery life and decent performance. Mi8 don't have a headphone jack, but have a AMOLED display. I don't know about the quality of pocophone screen, and the Mi9T screen seems to be so gorgeus. Anyway, what you can tell about this three, especially for videos and games?
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i have used mi 9t, mi8 and poco and i can say mi 9t is the better option overall. Especially with with your use, there are no reasons to buy mi8 or poco, because arena of valor run smoothly on mi 9t and is the better option to play it thanks to the gorgeous display it has
Mi 9T Pro
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Mi 9T Pro
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There is no reason buying MI 9T if its not PRO. Poco and MI 8 actually the same but MI8 is a flagship and gives better experience using of it... but at the same time it has lower battery capacity. Im using Poco F1 for 7 months for now and thats the best phone i've ever used just because of SD845. So i definately recommend it.
I have the Pocophone F1 and I would say it is a decent phone.
I'm gonna say between Poco F1, Mi 8 and Mi 9t, there's not much difference. But i'll try to look at the best feature in them.
Mi 8? It has the Super AMOLED, corning glass 5, HDR10 screen, best screen. Great camera (+telephoto, OIS), sufficient enough. SD845 Adreno 630 on par with Poco F1.
Mi 9T? The latest device. AMOLED, corning glass 5 screen. Camera is supposed to be the best. 48MP (+telephoto, ultrawide), under display fingerprint (if you like that, idk for me). Headphone jack. USB OTG is there to compensate for the less expandable storage. 18w 4000 mAh battery.
Poco F1? SD845. Expandable storage, headphone jack, stereo speakers, USB OTG, 18w 4000mAh (QC 3.0) battery. The lowest cost among these three, or probably the same cost as Mi 9T (depends on your country, idk)
Of course there's pros and cons between them. And I saw a lot of pros in Mi 9T that actually makes me eager to get it (if only I hadn't buy Poco) Anyway choose one that fits you.
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dont buy anything from xiaomi see damn freeze thread and youll see the pain if you got corrupt xiaomi device like ****y poco
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my poco works perfect? might be some of your apps making device hang..
you need to explain what's installed and which rom you are using? even Miui10 which build? ( Stable (china/global) / developer (china/global) ) (rooted /nonrooted?) etc
Don't believe any positive comments about poco here. Poco is one of the ****ty device i have ever seen. It has famous touch issue that's still not solved and can't be solved through software updates. Camera is below avg. Phone hits up when its a plastic body. Durability is bad. Software updates are bad. Only battery backup is good because of it's large battery capacity.
Have my poco since it was out, am very pleased with it, no problems what so ever. Will trade it up for mi9t pro once it is released.
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Mate, go to a store, look at the phones your interested in and make a decision...
Each persons view is unique and what sells me a phone may be unimportant to you... You will probably find people here are a little biased towards the Pocophone. If you go to those other phone forums you will probably get most people saying to get their phone as they will be biased there, and most people won't downtalk their product (unless it's REALLY bad) due to the fact we like to think our product/advice is best...
There is a myriad of videos on youtube extolling the virtues/problems with each phone...
In the end it comes down to you...
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Well said. And sound advice.
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Don't believe any positive comments about poco here. Poco is one of the ****ty device i have ever seen. It has famous touch issue that's still not solved and can't be solved through software updates. Camera is below avg. Phone hits up when its a plastic body. Durability is bad. Software updates are bad. Only battery backup is good because of it's large battery capacity.
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I am fine with my POCO so far!
Keep in MIND that POCO is NOT flagship device ! and like any other high mid range android devices it has pros and cons! but you are highlighting CONS only! ?
-POCO is highly managable and xda has many roms/mods! since i am using my Poco on HAVOC I don't have hanging problem but I had used poco on MIUI initialy and It was fine too!
- camera is OK, the highlight of this fone was never camera, infact the camera is better than many midrange Xiaomi Phones
- All phones heats up! but the good part is , on havoc , even the phone feels hot on touch! it never hangs!
- yes i have noticed touch problems BUT on Franco/Twisted loop kernels because they had been changing kernel drivers , and even on franco, the touch problem is rare and if you switch on / off screen, it fixes it self! however if I use any other kernel, it stays just fine!
I have adjusted myself to many devices because of their limitations! but poco is so far best device that i have able to customized according to my wishes
YasuHamed said:
I am fine with my POCO so far!
Keep in MIND that POCO is NOT flagship device ! and like any other high mid range android devices it has pros and cons! but you are highlighting CONS only! ?
-POCO is highly managable and xda has many roms/mods! since i am using my Poco on HAVOC I don't have hanging problem but I had used poco on MIUI initialy and It was fine too!
- camera is OK, the highlight of this fone was never camera, infact the camera is better than many midrange Xiaomi Phones
- All phones heats up! but the good part is , on havoc , even the phone feels hot on touch! it never hangs!
- yes i have noticed touch problems BUT on Franco/Twisted loop kernels because they had been changing kernel drivers , and even on franco, the touch problem is rare and if you switch on / off screen, it fixes it self! however if I use any other kernel, it stays just fine!
I have adjusted myself to many devices because of their limitations! but poco is so far best device that i have able to customized according to my wishes
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you are forgetting the main thing. we have no enough time for unlocking bootloader, flashing rom, modification etc etc. we are giving our hard money to Xiaomi not xda devs. xda devs are best in all way. we want the best in stock like OnePlus did.
all of us don't know how to flash roms and not even interested. we got poor lcd panel and they should admit that. instead of it we are being told to remove screen guard to solve touch issue. this is bulls*** man.
poco isn't flagship but not even close to flagship killer dude.
look because u watch netflix get mi9T global verison because its support widvine L1 and it will support HD playback i am useing pocophone f1 even after they add the widevine support its doesn't play hd so i think it should be on the phone from the factory to work and mi 9 also has the same support with better soc but less battery so choose between thoes 2 forget about pocophone the screen not good with video playback
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you are forgetting the main thing. we have no enough time for unlocking bootloader, flashing rom, modification etc etc. we are giving our hard money to Xiaomi not xda devs. xda devs are best in all way. we want the best in stock like OnePlus did.
all of us don't know how to flash roms and not even interested. we got poor lcd panel and they should admit that. instead of it we are being told to remove screen guard to solve touch issue. this is bulls*** man.
poco isn't flagship but not even close to flagship killer dude.
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who are "WE" who don't have time?
-the fact you bieng on xda/replying/reading and answering makes you expert on this topic already !
-also predominantely if you don't like MIUI then POCO is not your only problem! then you should try ANdroid one devices like oneplus (oxygen is pretymuch stock android) and / or Nokias
- as i said! POCO is NOT flagship and and their lcd panel is SAME same same as Note5pro!! however i never face touch problems! of any kind!!!!!! used miui 10 on my waiting period and it was just perfect! perhaps you got a faulty device ORRRRRR Xaiomi made a Special POCO for me
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TLDR: Buy the Mi 9T, don't even wait for the Pro version. You won't miss anything on the Pro given your declared use-cases, all of those that you mentioned you can do on the 9T + more money for you because it's significantly cheaper.
Here are the things I noticed about the Mi 9T:
1. As we all know, the build and the cooling system of the Mi9T-series were spec'd to deal with SD855 high-performance SoC which is and certainly an overkill for the SD730.
2. As explained in #1, what you would get is significantly higher run-time for the performance cores + GPU on full load (max clocks) when you have a lower TDP SD730 SoC.
3. SD730 also sips power at full load and is overall having lower power consumption (then the Pro) which also converts to longer run time per single full charge.
Remember that you have a phone with passive cooling which could always be saturated especially during summer. The question is that for how long before saturation? Simple, SD730 would take longer time to saturate a cooling system designed for SD855, that's it. I always notice people getting disappointed gaming on a phone with SD845 (for example) and got mad because it could easily throttle at FULL LOAD, where is the liquid cooling? What the cooling system is doing? My answer would be: With great power comes faster passive-cooling saturation.
Forget Mi8, very small battery for gaming, lowest runtime of the 3.
Forget Poco, it's overkill for your use-cases (SoC-wise) and it's camera is dated and offers less utility as compared to the cameras of the Mi9T.
Buy the Mi9T, it's best for the price and the use-cases you have stated. I also has the overall highest battery run-time of the 3.
Oh, the Mi9T Pro? Forget it, just buy a Mi9T with the biggest storage space and call it a day.
I am using a POCO F1 since September 2018. It had its own set of problems like screen touch issues etc.
Right now you should go with Mi9T because:
1. Better Screen. Poco screen is **** literally. If you dont bother about touch issues, even then the poco's display is very average.
2. SD730 is more than enough for a 1080p screen. Although Sd845 is stronger on paper, you wont make out much difference in performance unless you are into heavy gaming.
3. Design.. Poco's design sucks literally.
4. You get better camera, same battery but more power efficient chipset leading to a longer battery life.
5. Mi9T loudspeaker is louder than poco's speaker.( Poco's secondary speaker is barely audible and just for the surround effect)
6. Mi9T will get updates longer.
Poco will have less resale value now.
Unless you are into gaming, avoid poco f1. But beware that none of these will play Netflix in HD.
However if you can wait a bit and willing to spend extra, get the pro version.will be worth it.
Hi,
I've been saving to get a Mi 9T pro for quite some time... and of course now it isn't available at a reasonable price, so my eyes are on a Poco F2 Pro (i live in Europe right now).
My only requirements would be:
mandatory:
- headphone jack (check)
- Super AMOLED without bloody hole (who would do that??) (can you confirm it is a super amoled screen like mi 9T pro and Mi 9 lite, not just amoled (like Mi 9T) please?) (check i guess)
slightly less important:
- stereo speakers (not checked, i live w/o it i guess! cause in that price range i can't find anything, specially with the 2 first requirements)
- microSD slot (ok i'll plug it more often then...)
and last but not least:
- good community regarding development, tweaks, custom roms and so on => will this one be checked one day ? What do you think ? I see sources are out but missing a lot of parts... are people gonna get some enthusiasm on that phone at one point ? (so, yeah, if somebody could tell me the future ^^ and the next lottery numbers while you're at it...)
So, well, maybe I'm too demanding, what do you guys think, and is there a way to be happy with stock MIUI (debloating?) to begin with ?
Sorry if all of that was already address, I take my chances asking my concern to the community before I buy anything as it is a big expense for me.
THANKS A LOT for your time and your help
Cheers !
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
LaMarMôt said:
OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
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What? No, the f2 has better screen. Well as long as you don't care about Refresh rate. But touch sampling is better 120 Vs 180 on the f2
Camera is better on the f2 even with ois
LaMarMôt said:
How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
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I can not say for Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro as I have the Zoom edition (different hardware) but the Zoom has slightly brighter screen than K20 Pro. I had for the short time Oneplus 7T pro. it had better color accuracy and 90 Hz
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I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
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why? I think poco f2pro is a good cheap and balance phone.
reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
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It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
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Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
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Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
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13th August
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13th August
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Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
Amazing phone, but MIUI with zero custom rom development is a no-go for me.
I have the poco f2 pro and owned 2 mi9t pro before as well. The phone is not bad but not great. Have it over a month now, miui 12 was a nice improvement but I see some bugs since the update. The screen sometimes go dark and take a good few seconds to recover. Happened when using chrome or various other apps. I had to even reboot at one point because it didn't recover. I know a wipe could resolve the issue just too lazy to do it and I only see the above bug a few times.
Comparing to the mi9t pro it has much nicer features such as the harptic feedback is nicer. Camera and touch response is also better, not even mention the longer battery life. However due to the size and weight I did find the mi9t pro much more usable. I have small hand and for me does require 2 hands to operate cause I cannot reach much with one hand.
Custom rom does exist check xiaomi.eu but its very limited compare how the mi9t pro\k20 pro was. I'm not planning to mess around with roms just wanted a device which works, this doesn't really bothers me.
Is it worth it? Hmm the market is fludded with good devices, if you want a full screen display there isn't much option available, the cut out or teardrop style is more common then anything else. The answer is subjective but owning the device I may look around and chose a different one.
Since this phone will 100% sure get Android 11 , I think most logical way forward (from dev perspective) is wait for that release before doing any custom ROM. Doing it now with current release base (its buggy too) is probably waste of time.
This is not the first phone with the same situation happened before.
I own both mi9t pro 128gb and k30 pro 256gb (zoom edition) and I can certainly says it surely an upgrade especially when you do gaming often.
Im not sure about everybody else, but in my experience, mi9t pro do stutter in games from time to time which I suspect comes from thermal throttling. On the other hand, my k30 pro did not have such issue at all. Mind you, it was both on miui 12 latest stable rom.
Oh yes, plus the added benefit of getting UFS 3.1, LPDDR5, bigger battery, IR blaster, faster charging, bigger battery, latest chipset, 5G (future-proofing), and most importantly for me, the OIS on both telephoto and main camera lens enable me to take long exposure and night shot without those blurry image. 3x telephoto lens not just better in zooming but also double as macro lens with AF! I can zoom up to 30x and have a decent moon-shot, albeit not so great but still good enough. All in all, its well worth to be considered as an upgrade.
Before i forgot, yes the screen is definitely super amoled, which comes with good factory-calibration on "Standard" or "Original" mode. P3 and sRGB mode as preset are great option to have which mi9t pro really missing.
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Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
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Yup. Poco f2 pro won't launch in India. They'll launch it as K30 Pro. It is because of this Covid situation that launch has been delayed. Also Xiaomi India is trying to clear their existing stocks of K20 pro before launching K30 Pro
I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
wait for pixel 5 4a with 765 processor is uber trash
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I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
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Now POCO F2 Pro is about 300,00€ in Italy. That is a so low price for these specs (Snapdragon 865), if there are two big lack:
1. no slot card at all and
2. no development due to the fact that the source code tree is partially hidden in order to block the development.
It seems like there's a collusion between the phone house to give a price to the possibility of development.
Actually google pixel it costs much more than the value of the money suggests for its specs.
Like "future development of the phone" must be paid by the costumers. That is my paranoia. :confuso:
I hope this is the correct forum for this type of discussion. If not, mods please move it to a more appropriate location.
What confuses is me is that there seems to be so little interest in this phone with both average consumers and tech enthusiasts. I'm curious you guys think that is?
Because it seems to me there are a lot of reasons why there should be. I'd like to lay them out. I'm by no means a Xiaomi/Poco fanboy, but I feel these are more of less objective points.
I paid €300 for my Pocophone F1 shipped from within EU, about a month after launch, and €350 for my Poco F2 pro about 2,5 months after launch. Taking into account inflation, the fact that the price might come down even more and the fact that you’re getting an objectively better hardware package, I’d say the F2 Pro is at least as good a deal (if not better) as the F1. And the F1 had a huge hype/interest surrounding it. It was basically the new One plus, as far as people were concerned.
What do I mean by better hardware package? Not taking into account the better chipset (which as far as I’m concerned is more a function of which smartphone generation we happen to be at) it’s the 4700 vs 4000 mah battery (I’m getting about 30-40% more battery life), the better screen (max brightness is quite a bit higher, as is color accuracy.. and it’s amoled), the much improved camera setup (including ‘nice to haves’ such as a macro camera), the housing which looks way more premium (even though all glass has downsides as well.. but the F1 back coating is pitting/scratching like crazy). And then there’s stuff that’s just plain cool, like the sliding selfie cam, the in screen fingerprint reader, IR blaster etc. Not to mention some weird omissions the Poco F1 had, such as no nfc.
I’d say getting this phone is kind of a no brainer, whether it’s for the tech enthusiast or the budget constrained android user who still wants the latest and greatest. Miui (though it has it quirks) is also getting to the point where it can compete with the other android skins out there.
So why is there so little interest?
I think because Xiaomi did not release the phone in India officially
For people into photography the Mi 10 range has better appeal. These handsets have much better cameras with OIS and 108MP or Omnivision lenses.
Here its due to Xiaomi not releasing full kernel source meaning that developers have a really hard time creating alternative ROMs.
In the "real" world, are sales bad? I dont know.
I wonder if there is any chance of getting custom roms for this device. I'm considering purchasing it but the lack of custom roms if putting me off. I'm curretly using a oneplus 6 and the poco f2 pro feeld like a nice and cheap upgrade.
I would like to add another imho huge pro-point for this (and other Xiaomi devices): unlocking the bootloader and rooting does NOT void the warranty!
(at least it's true for Singapore where Xiaomi confirmed this via email).
I am not aware of any other company (Samsung, Huawei, Realme ....) which allows this
magogo said:
I wonder if there is any chance of getting custom roms for this device. I'm considering purchasing it but the lack of custom roms if putting me off. I'm curretly using a oneplus 6 and the poco f2 pro feeld like a nice and cheap upgrade.
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Xiaomi.eu is a kind a custom rom. Apart of that its true, not much other options available...
shadow78 said:
Xiaomi.eu is a kind a custom rom. Apart of that its true, not much other options available...
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It's not, it's the OEM ROM with a few mods on top, nothing special.
grt67DFqyu said:
It's not, it's the OEM ROM with a few mods on top, nothing special.
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I think you are wrong sorry. OEM means "original equipment manufacturer" normally the manufacturers provide OEM firmware\rom. As you said its modified "with a few mods on top" and its not by the manufacturer, then its a custom firmware. I fully understand what xiaomi.eu does and I know they use the official Chinese firmware but it is still modified.
no call recording on F2 pro. So bye bye Xiaomi.
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It's not, it's the OEM ROM with a few mods on top, nothing special.
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Technically, Xiaomi.eu ROM is a custom ROM.
shadow78 said:
I think you are wrong sorry. OEM means "original equipment manufacturer" normally the manufacturers provide OEM firmware\rom.
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I know what OEM means Hence the phrase "OEM with a few mods on top". I just think it's not enough to call it a proper custom ROM.
As long as xiaomi.eu maintains this device, I absolutely love it
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As long as xiaomi.eu maintains this device, I absolutely love it
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Me too. I've been an AOSP guy ever since but TBH, I'm not complaining with MIUI this time, especially with Xiaomi.eu ROM. Plus, Magisk and EdXposed are perfectly working on it so I'm satisfied so far.
Poliarinis_eziukas said:
no call recording on F2 pro. So bye bye Xiaomi.
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Google announced Phone apk beta with call recording option (on some global versions of RN8 Pro is alread available)... So very soon will be on all xiaomi devices
popoyaya said:
For people into photography the Mi 10 range has better appeal. These handsets have much better cameras with OIS and 108MP or Omnivision lenses.
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We have OIS, and the IMX686 is no slouch either. Gcam still has a ton to get out of that sensor. For context, the Pixel's sensor has barely changed for the last 3 and a half years, and they still made massive quality improvements.
What is the advantage of Omnivision lenses ? Don't they make sensors ? The general rule is that Sony sensors are better, isn’t it ?
Poliarinis_eziukas said:
no call recording on F2 pro. So bye bye Xiaomi.
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Unlock and flash xiaomi.eu it's has that feature by default...
Wysłane z mojego POCO F2 Pro przy użyciu Tapatalka
jmase said:
Here its due to Xiaomi not releasing full kernel source meaning that developers have a really hard time creating alternative ROMs.
In the "real" world, are sales bad? I dont know.
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We all need to keep asking for the full device tree and kernel source etc. on Facebook and Twitter. I've tweeted POCO and Xiaomi this week whilst I wait for my new F2 Pro.
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
grt67DFqyu said:
I know what OEM means Hence the phrase "OEM with a few mods on top". I just think it's not enough to call it a proper custom ROM.
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I guess this is your personal choice you call it what ever you like. I can also say green is yellow but its still will be green for everybody else .
Going back to the subject I have also seen a significant price drop since I bought this about 2 months ago. Not sure why is this though I think its a very good phone.
I may unlock my phone and give a shot on the xiaomi.eu rom if everyone saying its great.
Well compared to my mi note 10 it has worse screen, worse in screen fingerprint reader, build quality feels worse, camera setup is nowhere near, battery time is about same on miui 12 (poco f2 got worse, note 10 better in miui 12).
So the only real pros for poco f2 is performance and popup camera.
I kept note 10 as main phone
Hello guys!
I've watched a couple of videos of Poco x3 and was kinda impressed by the performance and what the device has to offer. My question is if it would be a smart thing getting this device (I currently use a S10 lite) considering the cameras seem to be better on the Poco especially the front cam. I'm not a heavy gamer by any means so it's not my main focus in a phone. I want to hear you guys think and what your experience using the poco is
Regards
Indigoeyes said:
Hello guys!
I've watched a couple of videos of Poco x3 and was kinda impressed by the performance and what the device has to offer. My question is if it would be a smart thing getting this device (I currently use a S10 lite) considering the cameras seem to be better on the Poco especially the front cam. I'm not a heavy gamer by any means so it's not my main focus in a phone. I want to hear you guys think and what your experience using the poco is
Regards
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As much as I love Poco, I would stay with S10 Lite.
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As much as I love Poco, I would stay with S10 Lite.
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Agreed :good:
I'll third that. There just isn't the much to gain for the money I think.
Arnova is about to build gcam 8 for poco x3
It will give the best picture quality
Thanks for the input guys. I'm just wondering since the 120 hz screen seems smoother than s10 lite's 60 hz screen. Also as I mentioned the camera especially the selfie-cam on poco seems better. I also like the fact that poco has IP rating and stereo speaker which the s10 lite lacks both of..
And another thing that's bothering me is the lack of development in custom roms for the s10 lite compared to poco...
Most if not all issues some people are having with the X3 isn't hardware related. Miui12 not really optimised for this phone yet and with more custom rom support i'd stick with X3. It's still the best bang for buck phone imo
Buy poco just for fun if you have the cash, I got 2 of them, just to keep a daily and mess with custom roms.
120Hz might be tempting but it's not really fixed 120 and most importantly it's an LCD display. If you decide to get the x3 just remember that from now on GREY is your new BLACK. My 2 years old HUAWEI tablet (also an IPS panel) has better contrast,viewing angles and deeper blacks.
irfanilyas991 said:
Arnova is about to build gcam 8 for poco x3
It will give the best picture quality
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When and where bro?
Update: I actually bought a Poco x3,and I must say it feels smoother than S10 Lite and the LCD screen is actually a very good one, so I don't notice all that much of a difference between the S10 lite and the Poco. Also the poco has a bigger community than s10 lite which is good .
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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Poco x3 pro is far better than A52 5G in terms of performance , the LCD screen is better than some amoleds but not that bright 450nits, poco has a better procesor snap860,also a good battery but A52 have a greater battery life because the amoled ,but if you use it at 120hz its probably the same , about custom rooms on my poco x3 pro i use pixel plus ui and is working excelent (battery life also improved) , but this is your decision A52 5G is for mostly easy task and not for gaiming or editing , poco x3 pro is for performance ,gaiming etc ,the only things probably A52 is better is the cameras and IP67 because poco x3 pro has IP53 and the cameras are how they are ,with Gcam probably some improvments , also poco has ufs 3.1 than 2.1 on a52 ,if you dont like playing games go for A52 5G but if need performance go for Poco X3 Pro is a great option also cheaper .
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I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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A52 camera will be light years ahead out of box, especially at low light with the optical stabilization.. you actually dont need custom ROM's or Gcam to improve it. Personally i prefer good AMOLED screens over fast refresh LCD (Always on Display, amazing brightness, color reproduction etc..) plus the Xiaomi screen is riddled with ghost touch issues, personally i didn't encounter it but there is a ton of people which have this problem.
One more thing to consider - A52 5G will receive 3 major Android updates and security updates for few more years, and since it released on Android 11 it will end up with Android 14.. X3 Pro will officially receive only Android 12. So yeah lack of custom ROM's with that long official updates from Samsung is not really a big deal.
Personally between the two i would go for A52 without much thinking, i'd consider X3 Pro only if you heavily play games on phone and want best possible SoC for the money.
Antonio7489 said:
Poco x3 pro is far better than A52 5G , the LCD screen is better than some amoleds but not that bright 450nits, poco has a better procesor snap860,also a good battery but A52 have a greater battery life because the amoled ,but if you use it at 120hz its probably the same , about custom rooms on my poco x3 pro i use pixel plus ui and is working excelent (battery life also improved) , but this is your decision A52 5G is for mostly easy task and not for gaiming or editing , poco x3 pro is for performance ,gaiming etc ,the only things probably A52 is better is the cameras and IP67 because poco x3 pro has IP53 and the cameras are how they are ,with Gcam probably some improvments , also poco has ufs 3.1 than 2.1 on a52 ,if you dont like playing games go for A52 5G but if need performance go for Poco X3 Pro is a great option also cheaper .
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My Poco X3 Pro battery isn't better even compared to my K20 Pro, Poco X3 Pro battery only lasts a full 12 hours if I set it on battery saver mode. I watch/listen to podcasts the whole day or listen to music. I can't even turn off the battery saver and set the refresh rate to 120hz without the phone dying in 3 hours max of continuous gaming.
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My Poco X3 Pro battery isn't better even compared to my K20 Pro, Poco X3 Pro battery only lasts a full 12 hours if I set it on battery saver mode. I watch/listen to podcasts the whole day or listen to music. I can't even turn off the battery saver and set the refresh rate to 120hz without the phone dying in 3 hours max of continuous gaming.
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i dont know how it last you 3 hours of gaiming , on mine i watched youtube 3-4 hours with additonal 2 hours PUBGM +3hours of hostpot ,and it survived with 33% battery , also i have an EU model ,idk if is better ,im using custom room ,but also on MIUI it did grate.
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i dont know how it last you 3 hours of gaiming , on mine i watched youtube 3-4 hours with additonal 2 hours PUBGM +3hours of hostpot ,and it survived with 33% battery , also i have an EU model ,idk if is better ,im using custom room ,but also on MIUI it did grate.
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Some games and apps don't fully support 60+hz refresh rate, you might wanna check your games and apps again.
I'm a bit confused for battery life - one of you did 3-4 hours of youtube, 2 hours of pubg and 3 hour hotspot - Isn't that good lol? I should have mentioned I'm not picky about camera (as long as it's not terrible) OR gaming. mostly surfing web/youtube, movies etc.a
k3lcior said:
A52 camera will be light years ahead out of box, especially at low light with the optical stabilization.. you actually dont need custom ROM's or Gcam to improve it. Personally i prefer good AMOLED screens over fast refresh LCD (Always on Display, amazing brightness, color reproduction etc..) plus the Xiaomi screen is riddled with ghost touch issues, personally i didn't encounter it but there is a ton of people which have this problem.
One more thing to consider - A52 5G will receive 3 major Android updates and security updates for few more years, and since it released on Android 11 it will end up with Android 14.. X3 Pro will officially receive only Android 12. So yeah lack of custom ROM's with that long official updates from Samsung is not really a big deal.
Personally between the two i would go for A52 without much thinking, i'd consider X3 Pro only if you heavily play games on phone and want best possible SoC for the money.
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The Poco would probably receive Android 13 in the future. It's a phone with high end specs and Xiaomi usually supports them if they are on the higher end of the spectrum. For Android 14, it's kinda blurry but atleast there are plenty of custom roms to go around when that time comes
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The Poco would probably receive Android 13 in the future. It's a phone with high end specs and Xiaomi usually supports them if they are on the higher end of the spectrum. For Android 14, it's kinda blurry but atleast there are plenty of custom roms to go around when that time comes
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Specs doesn't matter, midrange Xiaomi phones receive 1 major update and flagships 2 major updates end of story.
1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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I'm genuinely happy with my Poco X3 Pro but it depends on you on what your preferences are for the device you want to buy.
I personally go with phones with high end specs. I'm not really a camera-focused guy. As long as it takes decent photos and videos, it would be fine by me.
Maybe you want a phone with 5g capability and with amoled screen, then go for the A52 5G.
Buy the phone that suits your needs
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Specs doesn't matter, midrange Xiaomi phones receive 1 major update and flagships 2 major updates end of story.
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Hmmmm mmkay
1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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Thats sooooooooooo simple and easy...take a Dollar and set one of the Devices to numbers side and the other Device to the second side of the Dolar. Now trow the dollar it in the air and wait for dollar hit the ground. Now you have a choice^^
speedson said:
Thats sooooooooooo simple and easy...take a Dollar and set one of the Devices to numbers side and the other Device to the second side of the Dolar. Now trow the dollar it in the air and wait for dollar hit the ground. Now you have a choice^^
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my last phone was the sammy note 4 - yup I've had it for 6 years and used custom roms. The screen is getting dimmer now and i have connectivity issues. I think the ROM's reallly help extend the useful life of phones which is why i'm leaning toward the poco more
1q3er5 said:
my last phone was the sammy note 4 - yup I've had it for 6 years and used custom roms. The screen is getting dimmer now and i have connectivity issues. I think the ROM's reallly help extend the useful life of phones which is why i'm leaning toward the poco more
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It boils down to this - would you have a Volkswagen or a Skoda? Both will drive you to the same place and back. Both will last some years - ie, little to choose between them in terms of functionality. So what does the decision boil down to? Basically, branding and price. You are the only one who can determine which is more important to you personally.
1q3er5 said:
my last phone was the sammy note 4 - yup I've had it for 6 years and used custom roms. The screen is getting dimmer now and i have connectivity issues. I think the ROM's reallly help extend the useful life of phones which is why i'm leaning toward the poco more
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Pretty much what it is to my Note 2 back in the days, it lasted me 4 years before the charging time basically went from 2 hours to 3+ hours of charging because of the deteriorating usb port of the phone.