Hi All,
I'm looking for active MTK Custom roms.
I've been browsing all over, but have been unlucky in my search for the moment.
I recently bought an android smartphone on aliexpress and it's a budget phone with moderate specs.
But I'm unsatisfied with the current factory performance of current OS, so I'm searching to replace it with something I might optionally tweak over time as well, but any active custom rom will do.
I'm specifially using the MTK6899 cpu on this phone.
I had to aswell already factory reset to fix storage capacity issue, so not a good sign to begin with either.
I'm really looking for any answer to clarify my quest/research in understanding the possibilities to port this phone to a different rom.
AFAIK Mediatek's source code for their chipsets isn't open source, hence developing Custom ROMs suitable to a specific Mediatek chipset is impossible.
jwoegerbauer said:
AFAIK Mediatek's source code for their chipsets isn't open source, hence developing Custom ROMs suitable to a specific Mediatek chipset is impossible.
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Hmm that's a bummer, if only I knew this before acquiring this phone, right?
So should I aim at finding one for another mediatek chipset?
Or will there be too many issues caused by incompatibility?
bossc2 said:
So should I aim at finding one for another mediatek chipset?
Or will there be too many issues caused by incompatibility?
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As I can see you didn't get it.
A Custom ROM basically doesn't depends on Android device's chipset, it only matters with regards to being a 32-bit or 64-bit chipset.
Developers of a Custom ROMs claim their Android ROM is oftentimes faster, more efficient, and use less memory because
they ripped out useless garbage, such as OEM/ carrier installed apps ( AKA bloatware ) or
they optimized the kernel. For example, an undervolted kernel can provide a much better battery life than the stock one.
That's all.
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it only matters with regards to being a 32-bit or 64-bit chipset
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(noob here) regarding a tablet
What device info do I need, other than 32/64bits, in order to find a ROM that works?
and I mean basic functions, browser, wifi, touch screen etc... (No need any GSM/celular/mobile etc..)
gsi roms works also on mtk devices
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gsi roms works also on mtk devices
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hey i am looking for a gsi for my Moto G 5G 2022 (Austin) I am a noob i dont know where to find any that will actually work... the device is a mt6833 MediaTek Dimensity 700 and is on android 12... i'd like maybe an android 13 gsi like pixel experience but have no idea where to start.
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hey i am looking for a gsi for my Moto G 5G 2022 (Austin) I am a noob i dont know where to find any that will actually work... the device is a mt6833 MediaTek Dimensity 700 and is on android 12... i'd like maybe an android 13 gsi like pixel experience but have no idea where to start.
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Same here, if you're able to get a GSI please share, I'm running Android 11 and I want Android 12 stock ROM
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Hello everybody!
I need an advice on where to get drivers (or what kernel options to use) for my phone (Motorola Quench XT3) build on Qualcomm MSM7227 chpset.
It would be cool to be able to compile new version of Android from source, like gentoo or LFS; we wouldn't depend on Motorola's software updates. The only thing that seems missing is drivers and kernel configuration. (May be I am wrong - correct me)
So how do I find out what drivers/kernel options to use for my hardware?
Any help is appreciated. I would make an understandable guide for compiling Android for Motorola Quench XT3 if I succeed.
Upd:: Motorola Quench XT3 is a "Boston Orange" phone. Look for mods on cyanogenmod forum, in the z71 variants section.
Therein lies the problem.
Linux drivers for phone chipsets (mostly Qualcomm) are often provided as binary lumps for a specific kernel version. When kernel sources are made available for a specific phone then we can generally compile a full AOSP build by making sure that the kernel we build is compatible with the binary blobs, this get more difficult as the framework gets upgraded and depends on features of newer kernels.
So the things to look for are:
What version of Andriod does it run, what do you want to run?
Have Moto released kernel sources yet?
What are the GPU/Radio/BT/Wifi/Audio chipsets
Do we have binder-friendly driver source available for any of the above.
This is all _hard_ stuff and generally if you've never compiled a Linux kernel before this is not the place to start.
Linux drivers for phone chipsets (mostly Qualcomm) are often provided as binary lumps for a specific kernel version.
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This is OK as long as binary drivers are available for new kernels, I guess.
What version of Andriod does it run, what do you want to run?
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It has Android 1.6, and my goal is 2.2.
Have Moto released kernel sources yet?
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yes, they have sources available for download. I downloaded, but couldn't figure out what ".config" they use, in the bundled script "Android.mk" that depends on external variable KERNEL_DEFCONFIG.
What are the GPU/Radio/BT/Wifi/Audio chipsets
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Ok, I am trying to find that out. Couldn't find specs in the net (including Motorola website), they only give processor (Qualcomm MSM7227) Is there a command like lspci on Android?
if you've never compiled a Linux kernel before this is not the place to start
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What is the place to start then? Actually I've configured and compiled kernels for several desktops/laptops, they are fine. I am not any kind of expert, but may be it isn't too difficult to build a working 2.2 Android. There's almost no hope to get it from Motorola. Also I don't care about Motorola-specific software.
Overall, thank you for a good & quick response. I will try to figure out exactly what hardware it uses, and post it here.
P.S.: what else people do to upgrade their phones when it isn't supported by manufacturer?
It's MSM7227 !!!
Hello people!
After a lot of reading I start to understand concepts. Turns out, my phone has a good and popular chipset Qualcomm MSM7227. The same chipset is used in, say, HTC Aria and HTC Legend, which are well supported by cyanogen mod. And looks like chipset determines all major drivers I need! (probably except minor things like flash light)
So, I need help of somebody who knows these things better than me in the following questions:
What could be a difference in firmware between (say) HTC Legend and Motorola Quench XT3, which share the same chipset?
Is there a "generic" build for MSM7227?
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Unfortunately that is rarely the whole of it. Slight differences in implementation can make all the difference. E.G. the radio itself has a firmware that may fundamentally change the interface presented to the CPU. Sound/Display/3D are also up in the air.
Short version, if you can find out the chipset driving each of the above (not just the CPU/Radio SOC) and you can either find:
1. 2.2 binary blobs from another phone
2. Open source drivers that can be compiled for the 2.2 kernel
Then you may be ok.
The reason I said that this may not be the place to start is that what you are trying to do here is get binary blob drivers running for a kernel they were not intended to run with, debugging that is some heavy magic on a desktop, even more so on an embedded device.
I also have the same phone and i was looking for a froyo mod.
I would be willing to test it out (i have the same phone ).
I should warn you though i have no mobile phone hacking experience!
SilentMobius, thank you much for good explanations!!
I googled more, and I have strong suspicion that Motorola Quench XT3 is the same as "Orange Boston" phone. That piece of hardware has been manufactured by many companies under many names (GigaByte G1305 Codfish, Apanda A60, WellcoM A88, Vibo A688, Cincinnati Bell Blaze f800, Commtiva Z71, Muchtel A1, Chinavision Excalibur, Motorola Greco, Nexian A890).
Though I am not sure that orange boston hacks would apply to Quench XT3. Is there a way to check their compatability (in hardware, radio firmware, etc) ?
Cyanogenmod
Turns out we are lucky - Quench XT3 is a part of "Boston Orange", and it runs cyanogenmod. This is very nice, and there is no need to make rom from scratch. Moreover, everything I was thinking of is already done for this phone.
Look on cyanogenmod forums in z71 variants section for mods and other information.
Thanks a lot
Uh, could anyone help me?
I rooted the phone with Universal AndRoot but when i click on z41 on rom manager it gets an error.
Help?
qwerty156 said:
Uh, could anyone help me?
I rooted the phone with Universal AndRoot but when i click on z41 on rom manager it gets an error.
Help?
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In ROM Manager the phone is known as an Commitiva A71. You are selecting the wrong phone.
Hey, so last year I bought a China-Tablet called Zenithink C91, it seemed like a good choice back then.
However, the software on it is rubbish. The manufacturer didn't even bother to change anything from the reference software for the hardware platform, did no optimization whatsoever. For example the build.prop is a complete mess with dozens of duplicate lines and references to the reference platform from AMlogic. All the stock firmwares have phone functionality enabled, even though there is no gsm module, showing an empty signal indicator all the time. Or the shipped ICS with gingerbread gapps and so on. The Tablet is just not usable in this state because the software sucks so much, and they do not answer any questions or take advice. Therefore, no sources.
However, I think the Tablet could be much more useful, because it has a decent cortex a9 processor which runs at 1ghz, and a mali 300 gpu.
So much for the situation.
So for a long time I thought about trying to compile a new rom for it, to make it actually work like it should, but I cant find any advice which would help me, because all tutorials that I find require me to use devtrees for devices that already exist. But how would I go to create Android for a device which has none?. I could probably extract most drivers from the latest ICS build. How compatible are they with JB?
On a side note, I wanted trying to Port CWM recovery, does anyone have a pointer where to start?
Thanks and I hope I did not post in the wrong section.
I actually think that there is a source available for your tablet. Check out Slatedroid, as it's a forum dedicated to chinese tablets.
The problem atm is the new version of the amlogic's platform for which they haven't released sources yet.
Oh, and tutorial for Clockwork recovery:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/10/porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html
Thanks for your reply, especially for the link concerning cwm.
I am aware of the slatedroid forum, and a user there, too. Zenithink did not publish any sources, I am very sure sadly.
ArRaY92 said:
Thanks for your reply, especially for the link concerning cwm.
I am aware of the slatedroid forum, and a user there, too. Zenithink did not publish any sources, I am very sure sadly.
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Zenithink maybe didn't, but you can find amlogic sources (the chip/platform manufacturer) here:
http://openlinux.amlogic.com/wiki/index.php/Arm/Android/2.Getting_the_Source_Code
edit: that is if they are using that as a platform ofc, if they're not well from what I see on slate you're limited to modifying stock roms, same as we on elf/aurora ii devices
Yeah, the stock sources are there, but ZT modified them and does not release the changes. No chance then, I guess? Anybody know if there is a chance for JB based on the ICS rom?
Hi Mates! I am kinda late in 64bit rom party. I am trying to read as many as possible post just to understand it. First, if i upgrade to 64bit rom, can i play some of the 64bit games that is not compatible with our device. Second, can you explain the process. No need in pointing the link just the files that i need to download and flash. Thank you so much.
pumpkin072618 said:
Hi Mates! I am kinda late in 64bit rom party. I am trying to read as many as possible post just to understand it. First, if i upgrade to 64bit rom, can i play some of the 64bit games that is not compatible with our device. Second, can you explain the process. No need in pointing the link just the files that i need to download and flash. Thank you so much.
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Have a look here about the meaning of 32 and 64 bit hardware and software:
What is the difference between a 32-bit and 64-bit system?
An explanation of the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit, and what the terms mean in reference to hardware and software.
techterms.com
Hope that helps to understand the difference and how it works together.
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Hi Mates! I am kinda late in 64bit rom party. I am trying to read as many as possible post just to understand it. First, if i upgrade to 64bit rom, can i play some of the 64bit games that is not compatible with our device. Second, can you explain the process. No need in pointing the link just the files that i need to download and flash. Thank you so much.
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Afaik if you have a G610X device then natively the phone supports A64 which means Arm (32-bit) with 64-bit binder. This means that the OS is 32-bit while the hardware is 64-bit capable. There now exists vendors that cater to both Arm64 and A64, Treblue and TheRealVendor respectively. If you like to go Arm64 (A-only), try Treblue vendor and flash some GSI's like Crdroid, LineageOS, or Havoc, among many others. If successful, then yes you can start up 64-bit (Arm64) apps and games, albeit it may be really laggy as the phone, while 64-bit capable hardware-wise, meets the bare minimum to even run these newer games and apps. But at least you can use them to some extent rather than not on Arm and A64...
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Afaik if you have a G610X device then natively the phone supports A64 which means Arm (32-bit) with 64-bit binder. This means that the OS is 32-bit while the hardware is 64-bit capable. There now exists vendors that cater to both Arm64 and A64, Treblue and TheRealVendor respectively. If you like to go Arm64 (A-only), try Treblue vendor and flash some GSI's like Crdroid, LineageOS, or Havoc, among many others. If successful, then yes you can start up 64-bit (Arm64) apps and games, albeit it may be really laggy as the phone, while 64-bit capable hardware-wise, meets the bare minimum to even run these newer games and apps. But at least you can use them to some extent rather than not on Arm and A64...
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Thanks for the answer bro. I already flashed HROM by Astrako. Last thing though, can you recommend any GSI/Pixel like rom? I was wondering if there is any semi stable gsi rom. I'm kinda craving for new ui.
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Thanks for the answer bro. I already flashed HROM by Astrako. Last thing though, can you recommend any GSI/Pixel like rom? I was wondering if there is any semi stable gsi rom. I'm kinda craving for new ui.
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Lots of GSI's to choose from like LineageOS, HavocOS, CrDroid, Corvus, Pixel Experience, FluidOS, AOSP, etc.... Just check out each to see which fits your needs. Just make sure that the version you are getting is compatible with your vendor.
Can we expect Lineage OS to be released for realme X3? I have a feeling that it is one of the phones that can really benefit from lineage OS as despite having excellent specifications it is bogged down by terrible software support by realme?
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Can we expect Lineage OS to be released for realme X3? I have a feeling that it is one of the phones that can really benefit from lineage OS as despite having excellent specifications it is bogged down by terrible software support by realme?
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There is no way to know if or when any device will get any kind of custom ROMs. That is a matter of whether someone with the knowledge to create custom ROMs owns one of those devices or not and whether or not they choose to build a ROM for that device and that is only "if" the stock source code has been made available to the public. If the stock source code has not been made available to the public, custom ROMs cannot be built for the device because stock source code is required in the building process.
The short answer is you will just have to wait and see or take it upon yourself to try building LineageOS for your device for yourself. Trying to build it yourself might get you there faster because you might be in for a long wait if you wait for someone else to do it or may never happen at all.
It's a mediatek processor and supports SPFlash byapss in case we screw up we can still recover...
Lenovo posted the 4.14 kernel, I tried building it and it seems to compile without any errors. Just need help getting the proprietary blobs and to build a device tree.
What's the model number of this?
I have a P11 TB-J606F
I am a developer, but I have no knowledge of how to extra the blobs ?
Can you post a link to the kernel sources ?
RogerClark said:
What's the model number of this?
I have a P11 TB-J606F
I am a developer, but I have no knowledge of how to extra the blobs ?
Can you post a link to the kernel sources ?
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That is the snapdragon variant, likely much easier to develop a custom rom for...
I am talking about the mediatek one which is the cheaper model (although they call it "plus")
RogerClark said:
What's the model number of this?
I have a P11 TB-J606F
I am a developer, but I have no knowledge of how to extra the blobs ?
Can you post a link to the kernel sources ?
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You can get the source from lenevo's open source website and search for your model...
There are scripts floating around that can help you extract the blobs from your running device or a system image.
You'll have to make a device tree though
Ah. OK
I noticed something on github about Levono not releasing the latest kernel sources in a reasonable period of time.
Current kernel sources for Lenovo P11 (TB-J606F, TB-J606L) · Issue #1 · lenovo/gplcc
Hello, The kernel sources you (Lenovo) have posted in your support portal (https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht511330-lenovo-open-source-portal) for the P11 tablet are outdated (kernel ver...
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And people just having kernel panic's after trying to use the old kernel, which appears to be over a year old
:-(
RogerClark said:
Ah. OK
I noticed something on github about Levono not releasing the latest kernel sources in a reasonable period of time.
Current kernel sources for Lenovo P11 (TB-J606F, TB-J606L) · Issue #1 · lenovo/gplcc
Hello, The kernel sources you (Lenovo) have posted in your support portal (https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht511330-lenovo-open-source-portal) for the P11 tablet are outdated (kernel ver...
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And people just having kernel panic's after trying to use the old kernel, which appears to be over a year old
:-(
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You might have a lot of work to do then. You can compare with other tablets with the same SOC. Snapdragon is very common and they release their own source as well and can rebuild the kenrnel.
You can use that guys kernel and see what the panic is to figure out what he is missing. It's def possible!
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You might have a lot of work to do then. You can compare with other tablets with the same SOC. Snapdragon is very common and they release their own source as well and can rebuild the kenrnel.
You can use that guys kernel and see what the panic is to figure out what he is missing. It's def possible!
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Yep. Probably a year old kernel should be fine, and the other guy's kernel probably has a miss configuration
anyone out there to test custom rom for P11 plus? I have compiled it but I haven't received the bootloader unlock email reply so cant test myself
Is LineageOS working on this tablet? I recently bought the tablet for my son (on a whim, without doing much research) obviously a fault on my part but i was hoping someone smarter than me got it working. I don't mean to come off rude demanding anything, just hoping someone has it working.
Can I use tb- j607 f android ROM on tb-j606f the only difference is the chipset ..snapdragon 775 and 662..the hardware the same ..please help
Cannot get android 13 for tb-606f please help