Adding messaging app to Karro 2 - General Questions and Answers

a few weeks ago I purchased a Cycling specific computer, the Hammerhead Karoo 2. Its running oreo 8.1. has 32Gb memory, BT, ant+ , wifi , and a sim slot for cellular data. to save memory it ships without google play services so any apps need to be side loaded.
beacuse this is basically a smart phone without the phone app( there no mike nor spearker either but BT could be used) my goal is to be able to use this while out riding, in case of emergency, and not have to take my phone with me as well.
What apps would be needed to have text messaging available? what do i need for MMS service? and suggestions for a one button SOS text app would be nice.
Thanks
tg

tommygHTCdream said:
a few weeks ago I purchased a Cycling specific computer, the Hammerhead Karoo 2. Its running oreo 8.1. has 32Gb memory, BT, ant+ , wifi , and a sim slot for cellular data. to save memory it ships without google play services so any apps need to be side loaded.
beacuse this is basically a smart phone without the phone app( there no mike nor spearker either but BT could be used) my goal is to be able to use this while out riding, in case of emergency, and not have to take my phone with me as well.
What apps would be needed to have text messaging available? what do i need for MMS service? and suggestions for a one button SOS text app would be nice.
Thanks
tg
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How to fix constant crashing on the Verizon Wireless version.

I am pretty sure that every Note 12.2 Pro Verizon Wireless version will crash every 5 to 10 minutes if you have most apps open.
To fix this, you need to remove the SIM card from the tray.
Prerequisites
Must be a Verizon Wireless model
Other proposed solutions that didn't work:
Resetting the device.
Removing MicroSD.
Switching from Samsung Keyboard to Google Keyboard
Replacing/repairing the tablet (probably not a hardware issue)
Charge the battery (flickering screen fix)
References:
The SIM card fix here did work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...absolutely-perplexing-problems-5-1-1-t3262803
These solutions did NOT work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/help/crashing-minutes-t2840972
This is verified to work on the Verizon Wireless Note Pro 12.2! It seems that if your SIM card has no active data plan, then this will cause their device to cause apps to crash to the home screen. Just remove the SIM card since you aren't using cellular data anyway. I don't think it is a hardware issue, but rather a firmware issue that has not been addressed and will never be for a device this old. This fix not only removed crashes that happened constantly, but it also improved app performance. Before this fix, drawing in Autodesk's Sketchbook app was a pain. Sometimes a pen/brush stroke would not appear or would delay. Similar things happened with my Lecture Notes app, causing me to believe that I may have had defective RAM (which was absolutely untrue). So please do yourself a favor and remove your inactive SIM card.
However, I don't know if a SIM card with an active Verizon Wireless data plan will also cause the Note Pro to crash. I bought it for WiFi use but it was on sale brand new for the same price as the WiFi only version. If anyone can check if the bug persists with an active SIM card with a data plan, I would appreciate that very much.
poetryrocksalot said:
I am pretty sure that every Note 12.2 Pro Verizon Wireless version will crash every 5 to 10 minutes if you have most apps open.
To fix this, you need to remove the SIM card from the tray.
Prerequisites
Must be a Verizon Wireless model
Other proposed solutions that didn't work:
Resetting the device.
Removing MicroSD.
Switching from Samsung Keyboard to Google Keyboard
Replacing/repairing the tablet (probably not a hardware issue)
Charge the battery (flickering screen fix)
References:
The SIM card fix here did work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...absolutely-perplexing-problems-5-1-1-t3262803
These solutions did NOT work --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/help/crashing-minutes-t2840972
This is verified to work on the Verizon Wireless Note Pro 12.2! It seems that if your SIM card has no active data plan, then this will cause their device to cause apps to crash to the home screen. Just remove the SIM card since you aren't using cellular data anyway. I don't think it is a hardware issue, but rather a firmware issue that has not been addressed and will never be for a device this old. This fix not only removed crashes that happened constantly, but it also improved app performance. Before this fix, drawing in Autodesk's Sketchbook app was a pain. Sometimes a pen/brush stroke would not appear or would delay. Similar things happened with my Lecture Notes app, causing me to believe that I may have had defective RAM (which was absolutely untrue). So please do yourself a favor and remove your inactive SIM card.
However, I don't know if a SIM card with an active Verizon Wireless data plan will also cause the Note Pro to crash. I bought it for WiFi use but it was on sale brand new for the same price as the WiFi only version. If anyone can check if the bug persists with an active SIM card with a data plan, I would appreciate that very much.
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I have an active T-mobile SIM in mine and no issues so far with an active data plan.
You are right though, it did have some odd issues when I had the sim in without an active data plan.
I diddnt have any app crashes but for some reason google play would not update apps even when I was on wifi, they would just stick in downloading status.
as soon as the sim card was activated or removed they downloaded fine.
There were a few other odd blips here and there when using something with network connectivity (Browser, facebook etc.)
The only reason I could see was that if you have an inactive sim card and then go to settings > about device > status the mobile network is constantly connecting and disconnecting and switching between unknown and LTE every second or two.
I suspect this may use extra processor resources and would likely impact battery life a bit as well.
I have an inactive sim at home, I may run some tests to verify it uses extra resources.
thanks for posting this, I noticed the issues and what resolved it but did not put two and two together until reading this post.
My SIM card was an inactive verizon wireless if that helps. I've only had crashing and memory issues. It's been several months now and not a single crash, and I always use my tablet.
If you want to test on your verizon sim, you should try sketchbook, videos, and any game such as clash of clans or boom beach. You need a memory or graphic intensive app to trigger these crashes.
Any small apps like Gmail will not crash. Although I had crashes in Adobe Reader if the PDF was large or the pages had a lot of visual content.
Note that I said you will crash with most apps open, I retract that statement. It is actually more likely to crash with anything that uses a lot of memory, caches alot, or is CPU or graphics intensive
Also, I think this bug only occurs on Android version 5.1.1
No problems here
Just wanted to let you know that I am still using my Note Pro with an active Sim card and I'm not running into any reboot issues. (I still haven't found anything even comparable to it to upgrade to without crossing over so i'll just keep using it! )

Disabling Wifi for the sake of son's grades.....

Hi, quick (strange) question. How can I disable the wifi on my son's OnePlus One so that he cannot connect to wifi networks even if he tries?
I have disabled cellular data through T-Mobile but he can still connect to the schools wifi and he gets distracted during classes as a result....
One is currently running stock cyanogen OS build MHC19Q but will root again if needed.
Can I just remove a system app for wifi with titanium backup to meet my goal?? Then reinstall it later as needed?
Thanks in advance for any help, apologies for noobish question....
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Hi, quick (strange) question. How can I disable the wifi on my son's OnePlus One so that he cannot connect to wifi networks even if he tries?
I have disabled cellular data through T-Mobile but he can still connect to the schools wifi and he gets distracted during classes as a result....
One is currently running stock cyanogen OS build MHC19Q but will root again if needed.
Can I just remove a system app for wifi with titanium backup to meet my goal?? Then reinstall it later as needed?
Thanks in advance for any help, apologies for noobish question....
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I believe u can restrict the wifi on the mobile which u dont want to use. Try for the option in wifi settings
Installing a very early version of a kernel (if available) might be an option.
How cruel!
Maybe you just need to restrict the use of the phone. If your son works out how to use TWRP then re-enabling WiFi will not be a problem.
Why not get a cheap dumbphone that can only do calls and texts?
On CM13 at least you can lock apps so that you need to enter a password to open it, don't know if oxygenOS has a similar feature. There's plenty of apps on the play store with the same feature. You could just password lock all the apps that are distracting him during class
This might be something useful:
beebom[dot]com/best-app-lockers-for-android
Smart AppLock 2 is one of the most widely used App locker for Android. Justifying its name, the Smart AppLock does the work of protecting your apps very smartly.
It can easily lock apps containing privacy content, such as your photos, videos(Gallery), SMS, call logs etc. Also, it can be used to lock incoming calls, Wifi and Bluetooth toggle switch and much more. Users can also lock system settings, installing and uninstall of apps to keep phone away from being messed up by others or kids.
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Dad, I've lost faith in you.
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Son

GS3 as standalone, do you NEED to pair with a phone?

I was looking to get an S3. What I wanted to know is can the watch be connected to the app store and download faces/apps without a phone either over wifi or if an LTE version over the network? Such as if you get a tablet, you can use it fine with just a wifi connection, you don't need to pair those to a phone. I ask because for one I don't have the latest phone of the month (Sammy seems to snub those with phone models older than a year - slight exaggeration but not much). The other thing is that I want to be able to leave the phone home at times and still be able to browse for watch faces etc over wifi.
I really don't care about notifications or email (I don't get that many) nor to I want to pay for things with the watch. When I really need to do those things I don't find using the phone that much work. I just want the watch to use as a watch, and have some helpful apps to use when not carrying my phone, is it possible?
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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So unlike a tablet Samsung locks you out of the app store on the actual watch even if LTE if you don't have a phone connected? That seems kind of dumb and limiting especially since the supported phone list is so small. Is it just because browsing apps on the watch is too difficult maybe?
I wonder if this will change, I can get apps on a tablet through wifi I don't see why not with the watch. This watch seems like a mini tablet that tells time.
afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are you sure my friend that it can make and receive calls and send messages without it being connected to the phone via bluetooth??i got mine s3 a week ago...i love it really, but it doesn't do these things when not connected ro the phone (s6 edge plus)...
Just saw, i have the bluetooth s3 frontier version and not the LTE version...so i guess that's why it has to be connected to the phone via bluetooth...
My only problem is that i can not connect to my phone via wi-fi...whenever i activate this option on my phone, it crashes with the message gear S pluggin has stopped working...any clues ?
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afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are these stand alone functions also available if you have the wifi version and no LTE?
I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
afblangley said:
I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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If the watch is basically a phone then why couldn't I directly install apps/faces etc from the watch? It doesn't make much sense to me. If I install apps on a phone I do't need another phone to install things on the first one. It seems like Samsung is just too lazy to make an app on the watch to do it, or they want everyone to have to buy a new phone to use the watch (and hopefully a big percentage will buy a Samsung phone wink wink).
I wonder what the free space on the watch memory/storage is between the BT and LTE versons? If the LTE has more stuff installed I wonder if user memory is less?
I'm one of the few who use an S3 as my primary phone. I too wish that the S3 was a more independent device. But as it stands right now, it's the most capable smartwatch available (excluding watches running full Android made by a few small manufacturers). I hope that it paves the way for more standalone offerings by Apple and Android Wear watch makers.
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
handrade773 said:
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
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Since the eSIM is provisioned via programming, Cricket and MVNOs don't have the system to do it. So that's a no go.
Theoretically, T-Mobile should be able to do it because they also sell the watch. The difficulty is finding an employee who knows how to do it, since the IMEI won't be in their database. Getting it on a wearable line instead of a smartphone (more expensive) or tablet (no talk) plan will be an additional obstacle.
Putting the watch on GoPhone is also technically doable, someone on this forum or Android Central said they did it. I think they called CS with the IMEI and ICCID. Perhaps they will chime in on exactly how they were able to get it done.
I called ATT CS and I was able to activated on $30 plan ($25 Auto).
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
Dudical said:
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
afblangley said:
No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
jmr5x said:
Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
afblangley said:
It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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This is exciting news. Do you happen to have a link that describers your experience using the setup with additional phone? I would be interested to know some details but hate to pick your brain if its already out on the interwebs.
Im guessing that the tablet has no connection and never has to the GS3?
Are you using the tablet with google voice number for calls and messaging? I was contemplating on how I could link my Verizon number on the iPhone to the android at home near the router.
Does your gear s3 still count the steps without connection with the phone? Mine stops with bt and wifi turned off.

Remote control of android phone used as GPS tracker

Hi everybody!
I hope you could help me with something. I want to track a vehicle using an android phone which will be permanently connected and hidden inside the car (in case it gets stolen).
I already bought a second hand Lenovo A1000 for $20 with Android 5.0. I've installed Google Trusted Contacts (minimum Android version 4.1) and added myself with constant share on (all the time). I've got a mobile data plan for $2/month which offers 100 MB internet that should be sufficient for the needs of Trusted Contacts.
I'll disable all apps on the phone, turn off wifi & bluetooth, dim the display to the max, and disable internet usage of anything but the Trusted Contacts app. The phone can stay in standby mode for over a week and it'll be charged every time the vehicle is used (which will be every day). So basically it'll always be on.
However, in case I want to access the phone and check something or make some changes, which app can I use? The phone will be physically inaccessible so I need an app which will always be running in the background and should be able to start automatically if the phone restarts for some reason.
Do you have any ideas about such an app? And any suggestions regarding my idea in general - with Google Trusted Contacts and the hidden phone?
Thanks!
Lirex
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Hammerhead Karoo 2, oreo g-apps

just got a Hammerhead Karoo 2. Its a cycling specific device running Oreo( or a version of it). It has a sim card slot and cellular capability (data probably 4G, maybe LTE not sure yet).
Any apps i need beyond the 5 or six that it has OEM support can be side loaded. There's only 32Gb storage available so I cant go crazy it already has its own nav function( and offline map storage) google maps not required.
Can anyone direct me to a source for google apps for oreo? specifically, s health, wear(to integrate with gear S3 watch or at least the HR monitor) text message app.

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