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Idol 3 antutu scores

It has recently come to my attention that the Asus zenfone selfie and HTC desire 820 both have the same SD 615 processor and adreno 405 GPU as the idol 3, yet their antutu scores reach 39,000 while the idol 3 struggles the reach 30,000. Why is this?

fubugang said:
It has recently come to my attention that the Asus zenfone selfie and HTC desire 820 both have the same SD 615 processor and adreno 405 GPU as the idol 3, yet their antutu scores reach 39,000 while the idol 3 struggles the reach 30,000. Why is this?
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Lower screen resolution, we're talking 720P vs 1080P (our device). Of course it will look "more performing" on a lower resolution, 3D graphics is probably doubled on 720P.
Also probably faster components (like RAM and eMMC), I heard our eMMC is not good, in fact the device lags especially when there are a lot of I/O operations. Those help the score a bit.
I'll make an Antutu score when I'll be able to make a 1.7 GHz kernel though.

ps3cfw said:
Lower screen resolution, we're talking 720P vs 1080P (our device). Of course it will look "more performing" on a lower resolution, 3D graphics is probably doubled on 720P.
Also probably faster components (like RAM and eMMC), I heard our eMMC is not good, in fact the device lags especially when there are a lot of I/O operations. Those help the score a bit.
I'll make an Antutu score when I'll be able to make a 1.7 GHz kernel though.
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Ahhhh, nice!! Didn't event realize they had 720p screens

fubugang said:
Ahhhh, nice!! Didn't event realize they had 720p screens
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That's cause they don't, the Asus Zenfone selfie has a 1080p screen just like the Idol 3.

joefloater said:
That's cause they don't, the Asus Zenfone selfie has a 1080p screen just like the Idol 3.
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Do you know why there's a 10,000 point difference between the zenfone selfie and idol 3?

there is also asus zenfone slefie with snapdargon 616 , MSM8939 (yeah same number) clocked at 1,7GHz and 3GB RAM i think the higher score was achieved with this device.
ZenFone_Selfie_ZD551KL-specifications/
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fubugang said:
Do you know why there's a 10,000 point difference between the zenfone selfie and idol 3?
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Does it really matter? What matters is how well it performs for you and if you are happy with it. When I compared the Zenphone with the Idol 3, i chose the IDOL 3 because i liked more of the features and the dual front facing speakers. I also got my idol3 for $199 on preorder. That makes up for any difference in Anttu scores.

Agreed. Idol is less expensive and performs well.
I admit, one of my relatives have the Zenfone 2 5". It looks really better to my opinion than the idol 3 design wise. But some complain about the Zenfone screen brightness and it's a fact, it's weak compared to the Idol. For example, 100% brightness on the Zenfone is equal to 30% on the Idol 3. It's really low. Vision angles are much better on the Idol and.... Last but not least. The Idol screen treatment makes it much better than the Zenfone for fingerprints.
They both are very good phones, the Zenfone looks a bit faster than the Idol, but the screen is really better on the Idol. Battery as well... Impressive. I installed all my apps yesterday afternoon. Configured them. Showed my new device to my colleagues all day long today. Read the forum 1:30h yesterday night, listened to music today and still have 20% left on my battery...
What else? This device costed me 130€ as I had a rebate. I couldn't ask for more.
One additional thing, seems accessories for the Zenfone are more expensive than for the Idol.
Benchmarks are one thing, real life and use another...
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Anghirrim said:
Agreed. Idol is less expensive and performs well.
I admit, one of my relatives have the Zenfone 2 5". It looks really better to my opinion than the idol 3 design wise. But some complain about the Zenfone screen brightness and it's a fact, it's weak compared to the Idol. For example, 100% brightness on the Zenfone is equal to 30% on the Idol 3. It's really low. Vision angles are much better on the Idol and.... Last but not least. The Idol screen treatment makes it much better than the Zenfone for fingerprints.
They both are very good phones, the Zenfone looks a bit faster than the Idol, but the screen is really better on the Idol. Battery as well... Impressive. I installed all my apps yesterday afternoon. Configured them. Showed my new device to my colleagues all day long today. Read the forum 1:30h yesterday night, listened to music today and still have 20% left on my battery...
What else? This device costed me 130€ as I had a rebate. I couldn't ask for more.
One additional thing, seems accessories for the Zenfone are more expensive than for the Idol.
Benchmarks are one thing, real life and use another...
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Honestly, in real life use the zenfone blows the idol out of the water, I love my idol but the lag needs to be fixed completely.

fubugang said:
Honestly, in real life use the zenfone blows the idol out of the water, I love my idol but the lag needs to be fixed completely.
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Which version of the Zenfone? You're right the Idol is not the fastest phone I had in hands, but it does the job for me. I did not use the Zenfone long enough to figure out the difference.
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Anghirrim said:
Which version of the Zenfone? You're right the Idol is not the fastest phone I had in hands, but it does the job for me. I did not use the Zenfone long enough to figure out the difference.
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The 2gb and 4gb variant, their GPU destroys the adreno 405, Alcatel didn't optimize the software correctly on the idol 3

Vibe K5 Review

Hello Friends , This is my first post here and i hope i can help you guys
Lenovo Vibe K5
Hello friends
Today I am here to sort the Lenovo Vibe K5
This device is a good cost-benefit but not supporting some heavier games, the battery is too bad (can overheat in a few minutes of use), the camera can handle some things, the available memory is reasonable, have enough RAM memory to support various games, have a good chipset can support heavier games,with Android 5.1.1 operating system with no provision for the update to Android Marshmellow, Fast charging in which the original charger with the hard charging time of 1h-2h depending on usage
He has a Octacore processor (Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 + Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53)
and a Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset 616 MSM8939v2 (But in CPU Z appears a Qualcomm SnapDragon chipset 615 1,50Ghz) , he had some FPS drops in heavier games like Asphalt 8 and World Of Tanks Blitz in this case it can not be run on Ultra
he had the following FPS in the following games
WoT Blitz 30fps (medium)
Asphalt 8 27fps
MCSM(Minecraft Story Mode) 40fps
Some games require a lot of heavy battery, and this phone disappoints in this topic, it has a lithium battery with the amperage 2750MaH lasting at most one days with moderate use and 5 hours of use more intensive
The Camera also disappoints, it has a 13 megapixel resolution (back) and 5 megapyxels (front), the camera does not fit in places with little or too much light focus is poor
The phone has 16GB of storage and 2GB of RAM and users can just enjoy eleven gigas (11GB) of this device
Summary:
Mobile is good for games can reach up to 50FPS in some, has expandable internal storage of 16GB to 128GB but may enjoy only 11GB, Camera is bad not adapting well to the environment or not focusing well on the object

hello people! new here. im planning to buy a Phone with Helio P60 and i have question

im planning to buy a helio p60 phone and i wonder if it can play very graphical games like black desert mobile on max settings without lag or frame drops.
also i want to compare it with snapdragon 636 - which one has better GPU for gaming and why?
and is there advantage of higher clock speed of CPU for gaming? i heard that everything about gaming is only handled by GPU, maybe the CPU speed affects the loading speed?
and finally do you have idea why some heavy games have limited settings for helio p60? some can't play in full HD or higher resolution like black desert mobile. is it because the helio p60 can't handle it, or its not supported? thank you!

Big Boar said:
im planning to buy a helio p60 phone and i wonder if it can play very graphical games like black desert mobile on max settings without lag or frame drops...
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Your best bet is to post this question within one of the following threads that is specific to your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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It's complicate to answer...
Some will talk about Gflops, forget it, that mean nothing : some powervr run games better than Adreno with half the Gflops!
Benchmarks aren't always accurate too, most time, they focuse mainly on texturing and don't represent well what a game is...Adreno focuse on it too
Nevertheless some benchmarks show :
- scores a little better than 636 on 3dmark Sling Shot Extrem opengl3.1 (1086pts helio P60 / 950pts S636 / 1350pts S660
- scores very close to 660 on more modern API, 3dmark Sling Shot Extrem Vulkan (934pts P60 / 751 S636 / 1073pts S660)
- probably better performances than 660 on modern effect like Tesselation ...AnTuTu 7 has a Tesselation test, detailed 3dscore is about 29000 on both P60 and S660
About 3d, you should consider memory too. lpddr4x 1800mhz on P60, 1333mhz on S636, 1866mhz on S660.
And vulkan use both CPU/GPU to render 3d...12nm process on P60 should deliver better thermal management to maintain framerate
In my opinion (without any test, I must admit) p60's GPU is closer to s660...
About Oppo R15, gsmarena writed they don't notice any difference in real game between S660 and P60 version! I think that this is more important than benchmark
About limited settings, it can come from lack referencement...
For exemple, on some devices, Arena of valor is limited to 30fps...you got them on high-settings and got no more on low-settings

Plumplum88 said:
It's complicate to answer...
Some will talk about Gflops, forget it, that mean nothing : some powervr run games better than Adreno with half the Gflops!
Benchmarks aren't always accurate too, most time, they focuse mainly on texturing and don't represent well what a game is...Adreno focuse on it too
Nevertheless some benchmarks show :
- scores a little better than 636 on 3dmark Sling Shot Extrem opengl3.1 (1086pts helio P60 / 950pts S636 / 1350pts S660
- scores very close to 660 on more modern API, 3dmark Sling Shot Extrem Vulkan (934pts P60 / 751 S636 / 1073pts S660)
- probably better performances than 660 on modern effect like Tesselation ...AnTuTu 7 has a Tesselation test, detailed 3dscore is about 29000 on both P60 and S660
About 3d, you should consider memory too. lpddr4x 1800mhz on P60, 1333mhz on S636, 1866mhz on S660.
And vulkan use both CPU/GPU to render 3d...12nm process on P60 should deliver better thermal management to maintain framerate
In my opinion (without any test, I must admit) p60's GPU is closer to s660...
About Oppo R15, gsmarena writed they don't notice any difference in real game between S660 and P60 version! I think that this is more important than benchmark
About limited settings, it can come from lack referencement...
For exemple, on some devices, Arena of valor is limited to 30fps...you got them on high-settings and got no more on low-settings
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Thank you! now i decided to choose p60 as next soc phone

Why asphalt 9 lagging in Redmi Note 7 pro?

Asphalt 9 frame drops in redmi note 7 pro and also not available motion blur even in high graphics settings .Almost 1 year since device launched even though SoC SD675 not compatable ?

Abhishek GS said:
Asphalt 9 frame drops in redmi note 7 pro and also not available motion blur even in high graphics settings .Almost 1 year since device launched even though SoC SD675 not compatable ?
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Adreno 612 gpu in sd675 isn't that powerful to handle asphalt at high graphics

urstrulynaveen said:
Adreno 612 gpu in sd675 isn't that powerful to handle asphalt at high graphics
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Bro,even SD 636 playing asphalt without lag.675 can can handle other games like Call of duty at max setting .

Abhishek GS said:
Bro,even SD 636 playing asphalt without lag.675 can can handle other games like Call of duty at max setting .
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Use a custom kernel, that gave me around 40-60% FPS boost in some games.

What is the best Rom for gaming for lavender 2021

Hey there I was looking for a ROM a week now have tried many ROMs my device is outdated (Lavender) so need to change laggy stock Miui 12.5.1 until now I tested some ROMs :
- Corvus OS 16.8 (good overall but android 11 didn't feel good in gaming on my device )
Miui EU 12.5.3 (best daily use but not for gaming)
- abihx ROG EDITION MIUI 12.6 (good features but didn't like it heats too much plus battery drain)
- Corvus OS Android 10 (that was better experience than 16.8 A11 version for me )
- CrDroid 6.9X (not much differences than above)
- crDroid 5.8 (comes with Android 9 gaming is smooth best experience until now but lags with gapps + when i google for new roms it say on my screen "is it time already to change ROM ha ha funny developer
Nusantara LTS 10 ( very good this and crdroid A9 are best no heat codm runs 55 fps )
So please comment below if there is better ROM for competitive gaming,
Device : Redmi note 7 lavender 3gb ram
, thnx

IMO for running graphically demanding games on Android it's not the ROM what is decisive but device's hardware: CPU / GPU / RAM / Screen Refresh Rate.
For example:
To flawlessly run PUBG Mobile on Android these are the recommended specs
Processor: Snapdragon 636 equivalent or above
RAM: 4 GB
SRR: 90 Hz or above

jwoegerbauer said:
IMO for running graphically demanding games on Android it's not the ROM what is decisive but device's hardware: CPU / GPU / RAM / Screen Refresh Rate.
For example:
To flawlessly run PUBG Mobile on Android these are the recommended specs
Processor: Snapdragon 636 equivalent or above
RAM: 4 GB
SRR: 90 Hz or above
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Thanks for answer my device specs are SD 660 ram 3 with 60 hz its running good at many custom ROMs but not stock Miui 12 so I need a ROM only for running games smooth ,until I get new device