Stabilization seems good enough. See no reason for lack of OIS to be reason for not choosing OP9 unless for some reason your livelihood depends on making vids on a phone camera.
Will post vid from back of a bumpy ride back of an ambulance.
Looks decent to me!
I am now deciding between the OP9 and the OP9R
SD888 vs SD870
No OIS vs OIS
Plastics frame vs Metal frame
682 USD vs 545 USD
Rest of the things are pretty much the same
I buy based on hardware cause that is what affects my browsing downloading gaming etc the most. Answer is easy for me. Good luck with your purchase.
Yeah, video is fine. It's cropped quite a bit. If that's an issue, you can film with the wide angle lens.
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Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Huawei P10 Plus come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The quality of video is quite good. It doesn't match up with modern mirrorless cameras, but Leica optics does hand a great value to video quality. This is exactly why I'm so frustrated on the software. Camera on itself is awesome and the quality is top notch, yet deficiency of the camera application renders camera almost useless. Except for the selfie, monochrome and pro-mode parts (which are photography modes) Too bad, video is the worst part of the camera. Only in perfect conditions it will perform quite well, but at least here in Finland Sun doesn't shine around the clock. When using artificial lighting, shutter flickering happens about 80% of time because one can not lock down the shutter speed to match frequency of said lighting. And on normal-to-low light situations, noise and artifacts destroys the video quality to a point you don't ever want to use the phone for video.
video quality is very bad. to the point that i dont like shooting with it anymore. camera is bad as well. it is very frustrating. i swapped out my iphone 6s for this huawei p10 more because i was attracted with the leica branding. and i am regretting it.. it has been 3 months already since i bought this. 2 months of selling it and no body is buying this thing
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video quality is very bad. to the point that i dont like shooting with it anymore. camera is bad as well. it is very frustrating. i swapped out my iphone 6s for this huawei p10 more because i was attracted with the leica branding. and i am regretting it.. it has been 3 months already since i bought this. 2 months of selling it and no body is buying this thing
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lol,i'm the same,camera was better on my note 4
Well,
is there a place where one can see other phone's videos, for comparison?
Except gsmarena.
"Samsung S9 Plus vs Note 8 4k Video Comparison" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/H66s74YZtyQ
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MicroMod777 said:
"Samsung S9 Plus vs Note 8 4k Video Comparison" on YouTube
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You could definitely see the 9+ captured better detail.
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You could definitely see the 9+ captured better detail.
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Yea the S9+ has almost double the bitrate, and fps. Sound quality does seem a bit better on Note 8.
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How did the file sizes compare at the end ?
One's using h265 and the other h264 ?
4k means huge sizes. I recorded an hours worth of 1080p 60fps on my v20 and the total size was 16GB
When the lights go dim, the 9+ walks away from the pack. Party's over, there's simply no comparison!
S9+ not quite walking away with much here is it
The Note 8 looked better to me until it started moving. Then it was much better on the S9+, I think.
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S9+ not quite walking away with much here is it
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That's not low light LOL.
I'm talking sub 1 lux levels. Think a 10x12 room with a night light or clock radio in the corner.
Also, his lens isn't clean *enough*.
If you really want to make sure your lens is optically clean you MUST use a lens pen. There are other ways used by laser techs but aren't even valid outside a class 100 clean room anyhow.
Anyhow, under low light the S9+ most certainly walks away from the Note 8. I have both phones and honestly was surprised at the difference.
The only thing I haven't tested is audio zoom and distortion at high levels. At the next warm up I will certainly zoom into one of the subs and see if it turns into clip city.
Excessive AF hunting seems to be reduced. Now if we could get rid of the AR artifacts and rolling shutter distortion we'd have some serious reasons to leave the pro gear at home. (haha I kid, but hey it's getting closer all the time!)
FYI indoors is low light and that scene is as bright maybe a little more. But the point is in such a situation anything from the S7 on up is fine. With LG's G4 and upwards. That is perspective. Comparison. Not just seeing something alone and imagining how much better it must be which is hype
His lens is clean enough for the purpose. Its called micro fiber, you should try it some time.
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FYI indoors is low light and that scene is as bright maybe a little more. But the point is in such a situation anything from the S7 on up is fine. With LG's G4 and upwards. That is perspective. Comparison. Not just seeing something alone and imagining how much better it must be which is hype
His lens is clean enough for the purpose. Its called micro fiber, you should try it some time.
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I'm not saying it's not fine, I'm saying the S9+ is demonstrably superior to both, enough to warrant purchasing even if you own the 8+ based on the camera alone. And indoor lighting certainly can vary from overly bright or totally dark.
There is no imagining anything here. I own the devices and can clearly see the differences in processing both on stills and video.
Additionally, if I can easily see artifacts produced by a FOD covered screen, it's definitely NOT clean enough! Microfiber is nice and soft and won't scratch delicate surfaces/coatings however if it's not clean it's not going to produce a clean surface. A lens pen will. They are cheap and no one that's even a bit serious about photography shouldn't have one!
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Additionally, if I can easily see artifacts produced by a FOD covered screen, it's definitely NOT clean enough! Microfiber is nice and soft and won't scratch delicate surfaces/coatings however if it's not clean it's not going to produce a clean surface. A lens pen will. They are cheap and no one that's even a bit serious about photography shouldn't have one!
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Which lenspen do you use with your phone ?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenspen-NMCP-1-LensPen-MicroPro/dp/B007G620ZE
or
https://www.amazon.com/LensPen-MBK-1-Camera-Cleaning-Kit/dp/B0010HAAIO
hopefully these aren't knockoffs with pads that come off after a few uses
Never heard of these products in mobile camera space.
How do you tell its clean, eyeball it at an angle like with any lens.
You're saying a lens pen will do better than microfiber. Well, i've ordered the first one since it works out to a quarter of the price of the second on amazon India and has a pad small enough to fit.
Hard to tell what coatings these phone camera lenses have, i'd imagine something that makes them resistant to scratching. Whether a lens pen will be safe to use in that case
Yes there are knockoffs but the lens pen brand, Nikon, etc. are OK.
The smaller pads work best but a 10mm pad still works. Use the brush first to remove loose dust and then use the pad.
I usually swipe across a few times.
You will know when it's "optically clean" when you can point the camera at a bright, pinpoint source of light (streetlight at night, etc.) and there's no halo or line shaped artifacts. The pens are quite gentle as they are designed for cleaning optics with AR coatings which are much more sensitive than the outer glass cover. If you look at the camera lens on a phone at a slight angle you will notice a purple looking color. That's the coating on the lens. Fortunately, this is protected with a window.
And this is why I use a UV filter on my expensive Nikor |N| and Canon L glass because a $30 filter is much cheaper than repairs that can cost $1000 or more!
I think S9+ is designed for better camera compared to Note 8
I am wavering between buying an s10e or an s10. In favor of the s10e: I prefer the size of the device and I like that there is a slight bezel on the left and right of the screen. However, it doesn't have the telephoto camera. I found that zoomed photos with the telephoto on the s10 are quite a bit sharper. On the other hand, I seriously dislike the s10's infinity screen. It warps the egdes of photos, web pages, etc. So, it comes down to how much advantage the telephoto camera provides. If it's not so important, I'd opt for the s10e. I'd like to see some opinions about the necessity for the telephoto. BTW, I realize the P30 has 3 cameras and a flat screen, but it's not the horse I want to ride - no wireless charging, no IP68, so-so sound, probably even worse at updates the Sammy.
All depends what you want.
Yes, a dedicated zoom camera makes better zoom photos.
But, even with image stabilization it is harder to get good shots that are not blurry. I never used zoom on a phone. But i can tell you that since i have the S10e i do mostly 2 photos with the standard cam and than with wide angle. Wide angle does interesting photos.
It is good to have
I don't take photos all too frequently, and when I do I never use zoom. It degrades the quality of the image quite a bit, be it optical or digital.
Since asking this question, I took time at a local store to play with the 10 and 10e. I set both to 8x zoom, since that is the max zoom for the 10e. There is quite a noticeable difference. The 10e had lot of noise and the 10 didn't. In fact, at 10x, the 10 still had a clearer image than the 10e. Now, if I could just come to terms with the curved screen and the weird edge reflections.
Not at all to me but i wish samsung went for the same wide angle lens on huawei mate 20 pro, usable in close up shots and gets amazing photos.
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I don't think it's that necessary... When you get 5x or 10x optical then it's cool, but 2x nah... I think the ultrawide is more fun
Getting a 10e here. But wondering how much worse the live focus will be without the Tele lens. Anyone have the experience?
Apart from the frustrating fact that you can't record video and that the ultra-wide lens isn't very wide, the colors and seem to be extremely off in the comparisons I've seen to the point that I don't know if it's solvable through a software update. Maybe fixing the distortion and the super low saturation through software will somewhat save it, I don't know. Heck, even Mi 9 has a clearly superior ultra-wide WITH recording. What do you think? Does anyone that has the phone have a different experience? I want to buy this phone, but at this point in my country it's about the same price as a S10+ (Exynos) and I'm struggling to make a decision.
I wish GCam mods come early to save this mess.
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Apart from the frustrating fact that you can't record video and that the ultra-wide lens isn't very wide, the colors and seem to be extremely off in the comparisons I've seen to the point that I don't know if it's solvable through a software update. Maybe fixing the distortion and the super low saturation through software will somewhat save it, I don't know. Heck, even Mi 9 has a clearly superior ultra-wide WITH recording. What do you think? Does anyone that has the phone have a different experience? I want to buy this phone, but at this point in my country it's about the same price as a S10+ (Exynos) and I'm struggling to make a decision.
I wish GCam mods come early to save this mess.
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I cannot answer specifically to the 7 Pro, but I can tell you that the colour science is off on my now-sold Galaxy S10 Plus Exynos version. Switching between the main lens and the wide angle lens in the same exact lighting and spot yields different colour reproduction. It might be down to the actual lens used in junction with the software, but I can safety say that this problem isn't exclusive to the 7 Pro if anything.
Also, don't buy the Exynos version of the S10. It has garbage battery life, and has different camera lenses to the SD version that have shown to be inferior to the SD version.
There is a setting in the camera called "Ultra Wide Lens Correction." I wonder if testers are switching this setting to see if this is the issue. I just got mine, but it's night time right now so I will need some time to test (but I only have the LG G7 ThinQ to compare to.)
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I cannot answer specifically to the 7 Pro, but I can tell you that the colour science is off on my now-sold Galaxy S10 Plus Exynos version. Switching between the main lens and the wide angle lens in the same exact lighting and spot yields different colour reproduction. It might be down to the actual lens used in junction with the software, but I can safety say that this problem isn't exclusive to the 7 Pro if anything.
Also, don't buy the Exynos version of the S10. It has garbage battery life, and has different camera lenses to the SD version that have shown to be inferior to the SD version.
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Yes, but at least every other wide angle camera in the market gives decent results. 7 Pro's results are very undersaturated, very soft and sometimes seem like out of focus.
I know about the S10+. If it was a Snapdragon version I would have already bought it.
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There is a setting in the camera called "Ultra Wide Lens Correction." I wonder if testers are switching this setting to see if this is the issue. I just got mine, but it's night time right now so I will need some time to test (but I only have the LG G7 ThinQ to compare to.)
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Great! Post some samples when you can. I'm not that worried about the lens correction, I don't mind the distortion. My problem is mainly the saturation and softness of detail. If you can, post original results + "corrected" versions using Snapseed/Photoshop to check if some post-processing saves the day at least. Thank you in advance!
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Yes, but at least every other wide angle camera in the market gives decent results. 7 Pro's results are very undersaturated, very soft and sometimes seem like out of focus.
I know about the S10+. If it was a Snapdragon version I would have already bought it.
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Beauty of OnePlus and this wonderful community is the fact that there'll be GCam for it very soon, and we'll undoubtedly be able to take amazing shots through GCam using the wide angle lens.
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Beauty of OnePlus and this wonderful community is the fact that there'll be GCam for it very soon, and we'll undoubtedly be able to take amazing shots through GCam using the wide angle lens.
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That's what I hope!
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Beauty of OnePlus and this wonderful community is the fact that there'll be GCam for it very soon, and we'll undoubtedly be able to take amazing shots through GCam using the wide angle lens.
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It really depends. It might not be fixable with gcam.
The main camera uses a pretty good sensor. But it is a different sensor for the wide angle lens. So the quality of the wide angle shots will heavily depend on the quality of the sensor they use for their wide angle lens. It might be a weak sensor, we don't know right now. Huawei uses 4 Sony sensors for example, their wide angle pictures are pretty good. And yes, the best hardware is useless without a good software. But the best software also can't fix a bad sensor.
Not saying that it is a bad sensor, it's just that we don't know by now. We might have to wait for a teardown and some talented devs to see what is inside and if it is fixable.
I can only link you the specs from dxomark:
Primary: 48Mp Sony IMX586 sensor (12Mp output size), 26mm-equivalent lens with f/1.6 aperture and OIS
Ultra-wide: 16Mp sensor, 17mm-equivalent lens with f/2.2 aperture
Telephoto: 8Mp sensor, 78mm-equivalent lens with f/2.4 aperture and OIS
I don't understand why new phones have a lot of cameras and only one camera have a lot of mpx other have 8mpx or less, is it so hard to make 1 better camera than fill whole back of the phone? Also cameras stick out on new phones so is easier to break it. I think is better to make just one camera with e.g 48mpx than 3 more. Also in my opinion professional camera should be to making photos than normal smartphone.
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I don't understand why new phones have a lot of cameras and only one camera have a lot of mpx other have 8mpx or less, is it so hard to make 1 better camera than fill whole back of the phone? Also cameras stick out on new phones so is easier to break it. I think is better to make just one camera with e.g 48mpx and 3 more. Also in my opinion professional camera should be to making photos than normal smartphone.
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Welcome to XDA.
Multiple cams because there's inadequate space for a optical zoom lense.
It's just marketing thing. 3 cameras are "better" than one good main camera.
All these 8MP ultrawide cameras and 2MP macro cameras are pretty much trash.
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It's just marketing thing. 3 cameras are "better" than one good main camera.
All these 8MP ultrawide cameras and 2MP macro cameras are pretty much trash.
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My 12mp ultra wide does ok even with the fixed focus. When you can't pan back ultra wides are your only option.
My biggest complaint is that the cameras aren't well protected. A sapphire lens cover would be fairly scratch resistant, but would probably add a bit to the cost.
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My biggest complaint is that the cameras aren't well protected. A sapphire lens cover would be fairly scratch resistant, but would probably add a bit to the cost.
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A good case is all that's needed. I live in the desert (sand and grit everywhere) and this N10+ is 3.5 yo has zero scratches or mars on the factory cam protector.
Case it, keep your fingers off the cam protector and clean with a dry microfiber cloth occasionally. No fuss or bother.
They are generally cheap and easy to replace if damaged.
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My 12mp ultra wide does ok even with the fixed focus. When you can't pan back ultra wides are your only option.
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Your phone ultrawide is 16MP.. As i remember right that you still have Galaxy Note 10?
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Your phone ultrawide is 16MP.. As i remember right that you still have Galaxy Note 10?
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My bad, yeah 16mp. After the N10+ Samsung went nuts with the cams. The N20U ie the humpback. Then then the bs highest mp count race was on.
@masturbino69
With regards to thread's title: I think this article
Why Do Some Smartphones Use Multiple Cameras?
Lots of high-end smartphones have added multiple camera modules and lenses to the back of their designs. But why? The fact is that they do different things for different phones, so we’re here to break it all down for you.
www.howtogeek.com
explains it well