Hi everyone,
I'm new to custom ROM world, but I'm really excited about the idea to have a cleaner and smoother phone, improving battery performance.
I’m currently waiting to have the bootloader unlocked, and I’m using this time to better understand which custom ROM could be better for me.
For sure, I have ridden tons of times that the best is try myself as many ROMs as I can, but being a beginner is difficult for me understand from what I can start.
So, I kindly ask to the community to give me an overview of the ROMs available, so I can start with them.
What I’m looking for is something simple and clean; I am not a gamer, I use my phone to manage my wallet (mobile banking), see videos, take photos and, most important, monitor my diabetes with an app that use NFC (freestyle libre).
I think that for me would be better start with official ROMs, what do you think?
Arrow OS is the answer?
Thanks a lot the contributors
Easiest and closest to stock (including camera) is Xiaomi.eu.
As for non-stock based options, I suggest you start with LineageOS or ArrowOS, for the sheer approval rate.
YMMV, though. As a newbie, expect a lot of testing, so always backup everything and keep notes...
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Easiest and closest to stock (including camera) is Xiaomi.eu.
As for non-stock based options, I suggest you start with LineageOS or ArrowOS, for the sheer approval rate.
YMMV, though. As a newbie, expect a lot of testing, so always backup everything and keep notes...
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Thanks @pnin, I will go ahead with ArrowOS since is official.... I will try for sure lineageOS when it will arrive in official state!
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Hello, I'm completely new to flashing on custom roms, but I recently purchased a Redmi Note 7 Pro with the full intent to flash on something better than the China MIUI rom.
However now that i'm finally allowed to unlock my bootloader, there are a lot more custom roms to choose from in the dev subforum for this phone, and I have absolutely no idea how to tell which one is right for me.
Originally I liked the sound of Oxygen OS for being almost entirely 'stock android' with a few good additions, but then became interested in LineageOS, which also seems to be largely stock android with some improvements, and the most well know community custom rom.
So I guess what I'm looking for is a clean "like-stock" rom with a good amount of customization so I can change things to my preference, but this being my first time ever flashing a custom rom, I would also appreciate stability and security.
Pretty much all of the roms ported in the dev subforum look like they're either modified versions of LineageOS, or based on AOSP.
Should I just play it safe and go with LineageOS, do the LineageOS based roms offer enough good improvements to try one of them instead, or should I look into one of the non-LineageOS AOSP roms?
Or if the "best option" is to try them for myself to see which one I like, is jumping between different roms easy to do, and will I lose any userdata doing so?
Some more info if it helps at all:
My previous phone was a Galaxy S4 running Android 5.0.1, so pretty much any custom rom will feel new and different to me.
Some of the things that bothered me about MIUI was the removal of the App folder/drawer and how notifications for things like emails seemed very delayed and arrived in annoying bursts.
I also disliked how the app vault was filled with crap, seemed pretty uncustomizable, and also can't be disabled in favor of wrap-around pages.
Any help with information on or deciding between custom roms is greatly appreciated!
Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Wow, I just properly read into crDroid, and it sounds like it's only got improvements and more customization options over LineageOS.
I was worried that because it was largely based on another custom rom, it might be less secure and stable or be based on an older version.
But they claim that stability and security are a main goal of theirs, and that they try to keep up with LineageOS's source.
crDroid sound perfect, thanks so much!
Good morning everyone,
My question is: would a "Frankenstein Mod" be possible to realize on Poco X3? what I mean is using the base of the MIUI, removing ALL xiaomi apps and service and replace them with AOSP ones, basically keeping MIUI skeleton and having anything else from AOSP, except for the bare minimum needed to not make everything crash.
It may sound bizarre, but as the kernel is yet nowhere to be seen and custom roms have all some issues, if doable that would be the only option for people who uses the phone as a daily driver and needs everything working without xiaomi spyware/bloatware, except for yet not replaceable app like camera (which we still don't have 100% working alternatives).
Thank you for all the eventual replies and clarifications on this!
It might have already been done
slime89 said:
Good morning everyone,
My question is: would a "Frankenstein Mod" be possible to realize on Poco X3? what I mean is using the base of the MIUI, removing ALL xiaomi apps and service and replace them with AOSP ones, basically keeping MIUI skeleton and having anything else from AOSP, except for the bare minimum needed to not make everything crash.
It may sound bizarre, but as the kernel is yet nowhere to be seen and custom roms have all some issues, if doable that would be the only option for people who uses the phone as a daily driver and needs everything working without xiaomi spyware/bloatware, except for yet not replaceable app like camera (which we still don't have 100% working alternatives).
Thank you for all the eventual replies and clarifications on this!
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Hello, fellow XDA-er.
So, since nobody replied, I decided to do so.
Take what I say with a grain of salt, of course, because it's all about personal preferences.
In regards to your question, I might be mistaken, but I got the feeling that the Xiaomi.eu custom roms did exactly that - keep the bare minimum MIUI funcionality and everything else pretty much AOSP.
I used it for about 3 weeks, before other custom ROMS started showing up.
Keep in mind that I followed the UNBLOAT guide from this very forum and it turned out great.
The thing is (and this is why I told you to take it with a grain of salt), I usually prefer a AOSP ROM and then just use whatever launcher I want, which I usually go for HTC Sense.
HOWEVER, my girlfriend also has a POCO X3 that I bought her and she prefers using the POCO Launcher (available in the PlayStore), which gives her the good old feel of a stock POCO X3 ROM, having obviously the perks of using an AOSP-based ROM (in our case EvolutionX).
So, in summary, I think that what you want has already been achieved and can be done either way (depending on the settings ui you might want):
1 - Install a Xiaomi.eu ROM and follow the REMOVE BLOATWARE guide from this very forum - that even has a guide showing which apps are safe to remove and which are not;
2 - Install whatever AOSP ROM you want and then just use POCO Launcher.
The only difference you'll end up noticing (in terms of GUI, not gonna discuss performance) is basically the Settings UI and layout and also the Quick Tiles.
Everything else should pretty much be the same.
Depends on what you want.
My PERSONAL advice, based on my experience?
Use a highly customizable AOSP-based ROM (EvolutionX is great, as I said) and then install POCO Launcher if you want.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
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Hello, fellow XDA-er.
So, since nobody replied, I decided to do so.
Take what I say with a grain of salt, of course, because it's all about personal preferences.
In regards to your question, I might be mistaken, but I got the feeling that the Xiaomi.eu custom roms did exactly that - keep the bare minimum MIUI funcionality and everything else pretty much AOSP.
I used it for about 3 weeks, before other custom ROMS started showing up.
Keep in mind that I followed the UNBLOAT guide from this very forum and it turned out great.
The thing is (and this is why I told you to take it with a grain of salt), I usually prefer a AOSP ROM and then just use whatever launcher I want, which I usually go for HTC Sense.
HOWEVER, my girlfriend also has a POCO X3 that I bought her and she prefers using the POCO Launcher (available in the PlayStore), which gives her the good old feel of a stock POCO X3 ROM, having obviously the perks of using an AOSP-based ROM (in our case EvolutionX).
So, in summary, I think that what you want has already been achieved and can be done either way (depending on the settings ui you might want):
1 - Install a Xiaomi.eu ROM and follow the REMOVE BLOATWARE guide from this very forum - that even has a guide showing which apps are safe to remove and which are not;
2 - Install whatever AOSP ROM you want and then just use POCO Launcher.
The only difference you'll end up noticing (in terms of GUI, not gonna discuss performance) is basically the Settings UI and layout and also the Quick Tiles.
Everything else should pretty much be the same.
Depends on what you want.
My PERSONAL advice, based on my experience?
Use a highly customizable AOSP-based ROM (EvolutionX is great, as I said) and then install POCO Launcher if you want.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
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First of all, thank you so much for taking time to reply, much appreciated!
Is the .eu more polished then? I may consider that option as a base maybe!
I don't really like the MIUI, I bought this phone for the awesome hardware for the price (185€ for the 128gb is a steal, couldn't resist), but I really want to drift away from MIUI as soon as possible. I've been following the custom rom scene, but it's still at the beginning, despite the great work of the devs, the lack of source is holding it a big back, so there are small bugs here and there which the stock hasn't, and some camera functions are not yet available on gcam and other third party apps.
That's why, while waiting for perfect lineage/AOSP roms, I was thinking about a MIUI base (which at the moment is the ROM who has everything working) with AOSP apps replacing all the Xiaomi ones (launcher, phone, dialer, gallery, file manager...), and if possible able to kill all those suspect process the MIUI has... don't know if that can be doable, but would be a great temporary option, as I wouldn't also be able to flash often the roms and would prefer something to keep for months or until something super stable comes out.
Hi everyone.
I would like to put a custom rom to my poco x3.
Someone can explain me the differences between a rom and an other?
What custom rom is the best for me?
i d like to have a rom fast,agile,fluid.
I d like to have a long battery life
ances903 said:
Hi everyone.
I would like to put a custom rom to my poco x3.
Someone can explain me the differences between a rom and an other?
What custom rom is the best for me?
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Depends on what you're after since all of them are different in their own way. Some of them offer a lot of customization than others but mostly it's up to your taste.
My advice is ArrowOS, it's stable, fast, has customization (tho not a lot) and it's Google certified so it's legit for banking apps and NFC payments.
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Depends on what you're after since all of them are different in their own way. Some of them offer a lot of customization than others but mostly it's up to your taste.
My advice is ArrowOS, it's stable, fast, has customization (tho not a lot) and it's Google certified so it's legit for banking apps and NFC payments.
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I know that the most famous are nitrogen,pixel,evolution,lineage,recoustraction
Can u tell me what are the characteristic of each rom?
The best strengths of each rom?
I doubt someone can make such a comparison, the is so many ROMs.
It depends what everyone is looking for.
Yepi69 prefers ArrowOs (which I haven't tested because I don't like paying for the complete ROM options) and I like ROMs that mimics Google Pixel.
There are caveats for each ROM.
IMHO you should compare what ROM mainteners say in their post presenting their ROM and the people reactions (reading topics is long but it worth the time reading them) and select the one that appeals you and test it for a few days. If you're satisfied keep it, if not change it.
Just remember that only Xiaomi.eu ROM is 100% compatible with original ROM and all functions of it because it's (to be simple) the original ROM with tweaks.
And also that most of ROMs may have problems with payment apps (but solutions can be provided for some) and to fully use the different cameras of X3 (there is some solutions with ANXcamera and Google camera ports but none, so far, is as complete as the original one).
Last thing to take into account is how frequent are the updates and which Android patch is included.
Some are often updated with corrections and Android patches while some don't.
I always prefer the ones with the latest security patches (and official ROM and therefore Xioami.eu are not updated with every monthly security Android patches).
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I doubt someone can make such a comparison, the is so many ROMs.
It depends what everyone is looking for.
Yepi69 prefers ArrowOs (which I haven't tested because I don't like paying for the complete ROM options) and I like ROMs that mimics Google Pixel.
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I never paid a dime for this ROM, it's completely free. And this ROM also mimics Google Pixel, which is the reason I have since I'm a sucker for Google Pixel
i like one plus UI so i like wave OS .. been using it a for a while ..
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I never paid a dime for this ROM, it's completely free.
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My bad... I confused with another rom...
Well it all depends on original rom source. Most of the rom devs use same-ish device trees so what you get differently depends on the rom's source like resurrectionos features, arrowos features...
Some may look the same some may not like ancient, revengeos, dotos etc. You can compare them in youtube videos. That is how i would decide to use which i would like.
I'm coming from a Mi A3 running stock Android 11 which I love.
The screen on the X3 Pro is a delight to behold for my poor old eyes but there are a few things that either I don't like in the MiUI or just aren't working properly. Is there any way to flash stock Android 11 on this phone?
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Is there any way to flash stock Android 11 on this phone?
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You could take a look at LineageOS, it's pretty much the purest custom rom out there.
Oops, I guess that we can't delete a post!
thorin0815 said:
You could take a look at LineageOS, it's pretty much the purest custom rom out there.
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Thanks for chipping in thorin0815. Yes I have seen a few "How to" articles but can't seem to find a really good description of how well it runs and what the pros and cons might be. Do you have any idea of how close to the pure Android experience it would be and if there are any major pitfalls or disappointments that have been reported? The phone I have came with an unbelievable 2 year warranty and I am reluctant to flash a system that I might regret at a later date.
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Thanks for chipping in thorin0815. Yes I have seen a few "How to" articles but can't seem to find a really good description of how well it runs and what the pros and cons might be. Do you have any idea of how close to the pure Android experience it would be and if there are any major pitfalls or disappointments that have been reported? The phone I have came with an unbelievable 2 year warranty and I am reluctant to flash a system that I might regret at a later date.
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If you will use Google Play Store, Google Calendar, Google Pay, or Google Apps, then LineageOS will need some adjustments and modifications to let those Google Apps services work properly. And possibly some banking apps may not work.
Whether each ROM pros and cons are, it is subjective. For example, customizations, for some people it's useless, while some people wants more customizations.
Try and error, flash a ROM and feel if that ROM fits your need. You know what you need, we don't know.
Most users starts with ArrowOS.
Pixel ROMs UI looks like Pixel phones.
LineageOS is completely open source.
I don't know other ROMs.
Read each ROM thread for each features, and possibly read some recent replies for update informations.
The title is basically self-explanatory. I'm particularly interested in these things:
AOSP/LOS/anything clean: how's battery drain? More than on stock or not?
Camera: could we replace ours with gcam? Is 70-105 switch working well?
Camera: do we have smth like XperianceCamera?
What features are we losing with unlocking bootloader? None afaics, but I may have missed something.
Thanks in advance! :^)
About Xperia 5 IV. It works great to me.
1.- No idea, never used stock. I have strong dislikes on Google.
2.- It works fine with OpenCamera, all 4 cameras detected (front, back normal, back close, back wide).
3.- No idea, I would need to try.
4.- It works fine.
Looks like I wrote a novel so TLDR:
I suck at this stuff, just getting back into custom ROMs - tried Pixel Experience 13 and Lineage OS(no Play Services (I think Android 13/A13 Beta)).
Stock Sony Rom + Root is the way to go. At least for right now.
Wouldn't count on GCam working or working well.
(Sony) Photo Pro is proprietary too afaik so you'd need someone to port it to custom OS like Lineage without G Services (what I read someone feel free to correct me). It might work with LineageOS with G Services or whatever else, I didn't try it.
END OF TLDR:
ROM EXPERIENCES:
Pixel Experience was weird, probably worked fine but I don't think the dimensions of the Xperia 5 III work well with how PE is scaled. Just this users opinion. Also I really only tried it to try it- not a huge fan of Google lately.
Lineage OS almost worked but the version I had text messages didn't work. The default one or others from F-Droid. I'm positive its user error on my part. Battery life seemed great though, it's anecdotal but it seemed markedly better without Google constantly checking in. Probably my bias.
Its important to me to have some Sony Apps and overall functionality (seems like low dev support when comparing to other devices IE Galaxy/Pixel) so I think stock Sony ROM+ Rooted is the way to go. Seemingly the general consensus on the forum too (especially since its pretty stock Android anyway).
Bonus objectives for me on stock Sony Rom is to DeGoogle + MicroG although I haven't made it all the way there yet. Then maybe long term try a Xperia 5 IV ROM for sh*ts and giggles for Android 13 since I doubt the 5 III will get it.
FUNCTIONALITY:
Your questions about GCam and losing functionality: I have heard/seen a lot of things online about GCam either needing to be ported to devices individually or that its part of Google's "Special Sauce" software wise. So I would expect stripped functionality if functional at all.
Someone who is a lot smarter and experienced than me should clarify on these last two:
Downsides to an unlocked bootloader+Custom ROM is same as always: risk of user error, bricking your device (soft bricked mine), depending on the ROM you choose you may not have Google Apps/limited so Banking apps and streaming apps won't work or won't go all the way up the resolution chain 4k20 69 fps etc. And I'm sure there is a security disclaimer somewhere out there too if you aren't careful.
Pros are same as always: Control of your device, system wide ad blocker, admin rights to delete bloatware, customization, custom ROMs, better battery life, potentially longer OS support, privacy, security, etc.
RAMBLINGS OF GETTING BACK INTO ROOTING WITH THE X5 III
*In case there are others out there who are similar to me in either getting back into rooting after a long time or the first time*
I'm pretty much a novice at this stuff but I was finally able to get my phone unlocked a few weeks ago and tried a few different ROMs. Out of what I tried I really only remember the Pixel Experience and Lineage OS. PE was fine but I'm not a huge fan of all the Google stuff so I went in the opposite direction and did Lineage OS without the Google Play Store/Services/App Framework whatever. It was almost a keeper for me except messaging wasn't working for whatever reason ((I wonder ^^)but really I think it was because it was an A13 beta). I tried a few different messaging apps but between that and losing some Sony Apps I decided to back to stock.
I feel like the big points for this phone are the camera app, the display customization depending on the content viewed, and possibly the gaming tweaks/music app? Last two are a stretch but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
The new plan was/is hoping to do was DeGoogle the stock ROM and replace it with MicroG. I haven't gotten around to it because the post I was looking at on how to do it on this forum linked to another post in a different forum and it was for Android 11. My phone is on Android 12. Looking at the comments people had said the process was the same for 12 as 11 or very similar. Shouldn't be too hard but knowing me it will take me another afternoon or two to get it figured out and working.
Long term I'm kind of hoping that when an Android 13 ROM comes out for the Xperia 5 IV we could try throwing it on our devices too. Since I doubt we will be getting Android 13 on the Xperia 5 III. I know the physical camera is different on the 5 IV but everything else seems close enough to a normie like me that maybe it would be worth it to try. Then its back to figuring out how to DeGoogle on an unsupported device and installing MicroG etc etc.
Sorry its such a late response and not the most technical (or maybe even 100% accurate) but that was at least my experience a bit ago trying a few different ROMs on the GSI thread linked in the "How To" post listed here.
This phone has really grown on me and I'm bummed I'm not savvy in any amount of Android development so I am unable to make customizations/tweaks to the stock ROM. Or customize other OS ROM's to port here. Which makes me reliant on others to do the work so I can leech off it haha. On more widely used phones like Samsung or the Pixel its NBD since there are so many users. But a small community like this, it doesn't seem like there is a lot being done. Not a dig or anything, just not a ton of options. Although being able to install a ton of different custom ROMS from the GSI thread is really cool even if it isn't tailored to the Xperia 5 III.
Part of why I threw up so much info on here goes with the last paragraph. You probably won't get a lot of responses. There aren't a ton of peeps here and those who are generally already know what they are doing.
If you end up trying a bunch of different ROMs and find one you really like LMK!
+1 to that. I don't get 5G and had bad time trying to obtain signal. It doesn't worth.
J2 digital said:
Looks like I wrote a novel so TLDR:
I suck at this stuff, just getting back into custom ROMs - tried Pixel Experience 13 and Lineage OS(no Play Services (I think Android 13/A13 Beta)).
Stock Sony Rom + Root is the way to go. At least for right now.
Wouldn't count on GCam working or working well.
(Sony) Photo Pro is proprietary too afaik so you'd need someone to port it to custom OS like Lineage without G Services (what I read someone feel free to correct me). It might work with LineageOS with G Services or whatever else, I didn't try it.
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ROM EXPERIENCES:
Pixel Experience was weird, probably worked fine but I don't think the dimensions of the Xperia 5 III work well with how PE is scaled. Just this users opinion. Also I really only tried it to try it- not a huge fan of Google lately.
Lineage OS almost worked but the version I had text messages didn't work. The default one or others from F-Droid. I'm positive its user error on my part. Battery life seemed great though, it's anecdotal but it seemed markedly better without Google constantly checking in. Probably my bias.
Its important to me to have some Sony Apps and overall functionality (seems like low dev support when comparing to other devices IE Galaxy/Pixel) so I think stock Sony ROM+ Rooted is the way to go. Seemingly the general consensus on the forum too (especially since its pretty stock Android anyway).
Bonus objectives for me on stock Sony Rom is to DeGoogle + MicroG although I haven't made it all the way there yet. Then maybe long term try a Xperia 5 IV ROM for sh*ts and giggles for Android 13 since I doubt the 5 III will get it.
FUNCTIONALITY:
Your questions about GCam and losing functionality: I have heard/seen a lot of things online about GCam either needing to be ported to devices individually or that its part of Google's "Special Sauce" software wise. So I would expect stripped functionality if functional at all.
Someone who is a lot smarter and experienced than me should clarify on these last two:
Downsides to an unlocked bootloader+Custom ROM is same as always: risk of user error, bricking your device (soft bricked mine), depending on the ROM you choose you may not have Google Apps/limited so Banking apps and streaming apps won't work or won't go all the way up the resolution chain 4k20 69 fps etc. And I'm sure there is a security disclaimer somewhere out there too if you aren't careful.
Pros are same as always: Control of your device, system wide ad blocker, admin rights to delete bloatware, customization, custom ROMs, better battery life, potentially longer OS support, privacy, security, etc.
RAMBLINGS OF GETTING BACK INTO ROOTING WITH THE X5 III
*In case there are others out there who are similar to me in either getting back into rooting after a long time or the first time*
I'm pretty much a novice at this stuff but I was finally able to get my phone unlocked a few weeks ago and tried a few different ROMs. Out of what I tried I really only remember the Pixel Experience and Lineage OS. PE was fine but I'm not a huge fan of all the Google stuff so I went in the opposite direction and did Lineage OS without the Google Play Store/Services/App Framework whatever. It was almost a keeper for me except messaging wasn't working for whatever reason ((I wonder ^^)but really I think it was because it was an A13 beta). I tried a few different messaging apps but between that and losing some Sony Apps I decided to back to stock.
I feel like the big points for this phone are the camera app, the display customization depending on the content viewed, and possibly the gaming tweaks/music app? Last two are a stretch but eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
The new plan was/is hoping to do was DeGoogle the stock ROM and replace it with MicroG. I haven't gotten around to it because the post I was looking at on how to do it on this forum linked to another post in a different forum and it was for Android 11. My phone is on Android 12. Looking at the comments people had said the process was the same for 12 as 11 or very similar. Shouldn't be too hard but knowing me it will take me another afternoon or two to get it figured out and working.
Long term I'm kind of hoping that when an Android 13 ROM comes out for the Xperia 5 IV we could try throwing it on our devices too. Since I doubt we will be getting Android 13 on the Xperia 5 III. I know the physical camera is different on the 5 IV but everything else seems close enough to a normie like me that maybe it would be worth it to try. Then its back to figuring out how to DeGoogle on an unsupported device and installing MicroG etc etc.
Sorry its such a late response and not the most technical (or maybe even 100% accurate) but that was at least my experience a bit ago trying a few different ROMs on the GSI thread linked in the "How To" post listed here.
This phone has really grown on me and I'm bummed I'm not savvy in any amount of Android development so I am unable to make customizations/tweaks to the stock ROM. Or customize other OS ROM's to port here. Which makes me reliant on others to do the work so I can leech off it haha. On more widely used phones like Samsung or the Pixel its NBD since there are so many users. But a small community like this, it doesn't seem like there is a lot being done. Not a dig or anything, just not a ton of options. Although being able to install a ton of different custom ROMS from the GSI thread is really cool even if it isn't tailored to the Xperia 5 III.
Part of why I threw up so much info on here goes with the last paragraph. You probably won't get a lot of responses. There aren't a ton of peeps here and those who are generally already know what they are doing.
If you end up trying a bunch of different ROMs and find one you really like LMK!
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Thanks for putting all your experiences out here, really a huge help. I would also like to try out lineage, but can't seem to find a supported version. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction?
Claussen said:
I would also like to try out lineage, but can't seem to find a supported version. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction?
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If you don't mind a customized one, try crDroid
i would like to try custom ROM's but since no TWRP anymore to get for the Xperia's i hate to reinstall everything just to test something new.