What is the deal with OTG cables? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

I recently bought a Dragonfly Black headphone DAC/Amp and would also like to use it on my Galaxy S8+.
I have bought and tried two different OTG cables and neither of them work with either with the Dragonfly or with an Xbox controller as a test. While using the stubby Samsung adapter, both of these things work fine.
I don't want to use the stubby adapter because it puts way too much strain on the USB port. So what is the deal with these things? I have some other USB C to female A adapters laying about and those don't work either. Is this something wrong with the S8? Does the Samsung adapter do something special? How can I buy one with a short cable that will work?
Thanks.

ive run into the same issue and have used Anker brand cables ever since and havent looked back at all.

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[Q] Micro usb + aux cable?

I've been looking for a cable to use in my car with my sII skyrocket for a week or so with no luck thus far. What I want is a single cable solution that plugs into the micro usb port on my phone and provides an aux out as well as usb out so I can charge and listen to my phone through my car. The usb would plug into a usb car charger and the aux out would obviously plug into the aux in on my stereo. I know it's possible to have one cable do this as I've seen docks that have this feature but I have yet to find a cable! I loved being able to easily charge and listen to my iphone with a single cable and hopefully someone knows where I can find one for my galaxy sII. Thank!
Does your car stereo have a regular 3.5 MM audio input? If so, just get a male to male audio cable and run that from your phone's headphone jack to the stereo.
I don't think there is such a cable because the Aux is an input that only take a signal from your device to the stereo, not the other way around. Usually those docks plug into the car lighter and connect to the radio using a specific radio station signal. Like burhanistan said, you should just buy a 3.5mm male to male cable like Retrak or Belkin and get a car lighter adapter for charging.
Yeah that's what I've been using but I would prefer to use a single cable to charge and play music. As you can see in these images the official samsung dock has a pass through auxiliary port with the only input being from the micro usb port so its definitely possible.
I might try and buy one of these and soldering in a micro usb cable to charge simultaneously but the skyrocket isnt listed under the compatible phones. Oh well my search continues...
Yea, sorry bud, the closest thing you're going to get is one of those Radio adapters that has a USB port on it, as well as the 3.5" male end.
I just checked on google for awhile and simply couldn't find anything. You can find these for the iPhone and I've used them, they rocked. Seems like the Skyrocket doesn't support audio out through the usb connector?
gadgt said:
Yeah that's what I've been using but I would prefer to use a single cable to charge and play music. As you can see in these images the official samsung dock has a pass through auxiliary port with the only input being from the micro usb port so its definitely possible.
I might try and buy one of these and soldering in a micro usb cable to charge simultaneously but the skyrocket isnt listed under the compatible phones. Oh well my search continues...
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yeah would be nice..
Just bought one of these http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Headset-Adapter-to3-5mm-Female/dp/B003W057FS/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
If it works with the skyrocket I'm going to solder in a usb cable as well to charge it at the same time. I'll let you guys know if it works next week.
i too would love something like this. i used the IMP adapter before on my iPOD it was great could charge and listen to music at the same time with only one connector coming out. seemed more clean as far as cabling went.
Well the adapter I bought does not work with my skyrocket... Oh well I guess I'll have to deal with a mess of cables for now

MHL + Power Adapter not Charging Device

So I recently got a MHL/OTG adapter off of ebay. The HDMI out and usb ports seem to work no problem. My problem is that when connecting my charging cable to the MHL hub my device isn't getting any power. I have no indications of my battery % going up. That means if I were to stream a movie onto my TV it would work fine but I would run out of battery fast. Does this seem like there's something wrong with the MHL adapter? Is my samsung battery charger not strong enough? Any help with this is greatly appreciated. I have done a bit of research on this and found mixed answers.
Actually... That's normal... An otg adapter puts your device into "power output" mode so it can power a flashdrive or other storage device... So the input/charging mode gets turned off.
Plugging your charger into the hub helps power the external devices so they don't kill your battery so quickly...
No. MHL 3 is meant to charge in parallel. Works on mine. It charges at 700mA only though, pretty slow. You can check the current by Synapse App + Skyhigh Kernel. I think you can configure higher charging rates as well(didn't try). MHL 3 is speced for 2A current.
Yeah... MHL works that way... But the OP says it's also an "OTG hub off ebay" .... So were not just talking about a straight MHL adapter... If it's an OTG hub triggering OTG mode on the tablet... Then it won't charge and it's not suppposed to.
xmilar said:
So I recently got a MHL/OTG adapter off of ebay. The HDMI out and usb ports seem to work no problem. My problem is that when connecting my charging cable to the MHL hub my device isn't getting any power. I have no indications of my battery % going up. That means if I were to stream a movie onto my TV it would work fine but I would run out of battery fast. Does this seem like there's something wrong with the MHL adapter? Is my samsung battery charger not strong enough? Any help with this is greatly appreciated. I have done a bit of research on this and found mixed answers.
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Hi, I also have a MHL/OTG adapter like yours (MHL/OTG/Card Reader) MHL-HDMI works flawless but OTG doesn't.
A USB pendrive that works flawless with an OTG cable it doesn't recognized in the hub while MHL>HDMI it's working.
@xmilar can you please post the link to the MHL/OTG adapter you bought and while yours not charge, are MHL+OTG working simultaniusly?
Thanks!
I've looked into MHL adapters for my Tab S 10.5 and LG G3 but it would require multiple cables and if I replace either or both items and the new item uses a different MHL, I would have to spend more money. I ended up just buying a Chromecast that does the same thing and wirelessly. Best $30 I spent
Hello, I ve bought an MHL adapter, the one with usb connector to charge the tablet when using the mhl, anyway nothing is working. The tablet doesnt charge, and shows 2 times the following : HDMI Connected, then after one second HDMI disconnected, two times. On my Sony phone works with no problems. I have skyhigh kernel and stock rom.
Probably it's not MHL 3?
Sorry for the late reply, if is not MHL 3 why is it working on my Sony Z1 compact with 4.4.4 rooted also.
If the adapter works on a Sony device then its probably based on a standard micro USB connector. According to the wikipedia entry for MHL newer samsung devices use a propriety 11 pin micro USB connector for MHL. There is mention of a "tip" to adapt between 11 pin and 5 pin, perhaps you could buy one of these?

[Q] USB extension for Sandisk Dual USB?

I picked up a SanDisk Dual USB drive, and although it works well, I was disappointed to see it's a bit too big to work with the bumper case I use. I briefly considered modifying the case, but think my best option is getting a short USB extension cable... Though I thought that would be a simple and cheap solution. After a little looking around though, I'm not sure I know what micro usb extension I need - MHL, OTG, Power? As best as I can tell, I need what they're marketing as a micro to micro OTG extension - but if someone can confirm, I'd appreciate it. My concern comes from comments on some saying they don't work for charging or syncing (search for "YCS Basics 6 inch USB Micro male to female OTG extension cable" on amazon), but it sounds like the mhl cable is just for HDMI.
Help?
Just get a small USB OTG cable. I use one sometimes with my Corsair OTG drive and it works great. Not all of my cases will let me lug the micro USB in easily hence why I have a small OTG cable. I can post pictures if you would like.
MotoManic said:
I picked up a SanDisk Dual USB drive, and although it works well, I was disappointed to see it's a bit too big to work with the bumper case I use. I briefly considered modifying the case, but think my best option is getting a short USB extension cable... Though I thought that would be a simple and cheap solution. After a little looking around though, I'm not sure I know what micro usb extension I need - MHL, OTG, Power? As best as I can tell, I need what they're marketing as a micro to micro OTG extension - but if someone can confirm, I'd appreciate it. My concern comes from comments on some saying they don't work for charging or syncing (search for "YCS Basics 6 inch USB Micro male to female OTG extension cable" on amazon), but it sounds like the mhl cable is just for HDMI.
Help?
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Can you return it for the new USB 3.0 model? Supposedly they made the uUSB connector longer to work with more cases.
Note10.1Dude said:
Can you return it for the new USB 3.0 model? Supposedly they made the uUSB connector longer to work with more cases.
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Really? That would have been great... but no. Or maybe... but probably not worth it to me at this point. I got a standard OTA cable and have just been living with it that way. And I haven't looked, but I'd have to think they're charging a premium for the 3.0 enhancement. I bought mine during one of those Christmas sales, so I got it real cheap at the time. Thanks though.

Multimedia Dock for Galaxy S6 Edge

Hello All,
I'm a new owner of a Galaxy S6 Edge, coming from a S4.
I had a Samsung multimedia dock for my S4, that had 3 USB ports, a HDMI Out port and a 3.5mm audio Out port. I purchased a wireless keyboard / track pad and plugged it into one of the USB ports on the dock to make typing texts & navigating the phone easier while at my desk.
Unfortunately, the male micro-USB plug on the Samsung multimedia dock does not fit the micro-USB port on my S6, rendering my wireless USB keyboard useless.
I've looked all over the internet and can't seem to find a similar docking station for the S6. Does anyone know of a docking station that has USB ports that will work with my USB wireless dongle & keyboard?
Much appreciated!
Hi,
Thanks for your report. It seems strange to me that the S6 micro USB port is different, should be the same old 11 pin that the Samsung used. Stupid question, but did you try inserting it the other way around, with the phone back facing you?
For your exact problem, with the keyboard, I assume the old USB On The Go adapter will work on S6, same as it does on S4, S3, Note2, etc. It's this one: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-R205UBEGSTA .
There's also a HDMI adapter, http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/mobile-devices/accessories/connectivity/EE-HN910FWEGWW. Maybe those 2 can be combined, instead of using the dock.
0sAND1s said:
Hi,
Thanks for your report. It seems strange to me that the S6 micro USB port is different, should be the same old 11 pin that the Samsung used. Stupid question, but did you try inserting it the other way around, with the phone back facing you?
For your exact problem, with the keyboard, I assume the old USB On The Go adapter will work on S6, same as it does on S4, S3, Note2, etc. It's this one: .
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Thanks for the reply!
Way ahead of ya on making sure the micro-USB plug on the docking station is facing the right direction. I tried docking it backwards and the plug n' port absolutely do not fit that way. It's facing the right direction, just that the port on the S6 is not able to accept the plug on the docking station....despite both being Micro-USB. I did notice, however, that the plug on the docking station had two small grooves indented in it, that looked different than any other standard micro-USB cable plug. It could be that those indentions made the device proprietary to the Samsung range of phones that released during the S3 / S4 years (including the Note 2 & 3). If you look at the compatibility of that docking station on Samsung's website, you'll notice that only the S3, S4, Note 2 & Note 3 come up.
I suppose the USB dongle you linked could work, but reading the device laying down flat, while trying to type on the keyboard might be problematic. You'd think that someone would make a universal micro-USB docking station with USB ports...but I haven't been able to find it.
I'm pretty sure the S6 no longer supports MHL which probably explains why the dock doesn't work either.
You can still go USB OTG, which should let you use your keyboard and trackpad mouse devices.
se1000 said:
I'm pretty sure the S6 no longer supports MHL which probably explains why the dock doesn't work either.
You can still go USB OTG, which should let you use your keyboard and trackpad mouse devices.
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Interesting.....so are you saying that the micro-USB male plug on the Samsung docking station also had MHL connectivity integrated in it, which is why it's form factor is slightly different than a standard micro-USB plug?
The only times I've ever seen a MHL port on mobile devices was as a separate, similar looking, but different port than the micro-USB port.
I supposed all the wireless mirroring tech out now makes including hardware mirroring functionality not needed.
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Interesting.....so are you saying that the micro-USB male plug on the Samsung docking station also had MHL connectivity integrated in it, which is why it's form factor is slightly different than a standard micro-USB plug?
The only times I've ever seen a MHL port on mobile devices was as a separate, similar looking, but different port than the micro-USB port.
I supposed all the wireless mirroring tech out now makes including hardware mirroring functionality not needed.
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That's correct, it has to since it offers an HDMI out on the dock.
http://www.thegadgetqueen.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/5-pin-vs-11-pin.jpg
You're also probably right in your assumption that MHL isn't really needed anymore due to the widespread wireless screen mirroring technologies.

micro USB to C adapter that works with OTG?

So I recently got a Galaxy S7 and it comes with a nice and compact OTG micro USB adapter that I'd love to be able to use on my 6P as well. Thing is, the current USB C adapters I have (techmatte) don't allow it to work. The notification about a USB drive being connected just keeps popping up and going away very fast. The OTG adapter works on my GS7 and my GS3, so I'm ruling it as the techmatte adapter. I'd really like to find a reliable micro USB to C adapter so I can just keep using my micro USB devices in a pinch.
I've read a few topics on here, most seem to be old though or don't have the info I'm looking for. So I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of something more recent and verified to be working how I want. Thanks.
I haven't been able to get OTG to work at all either.
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