Just bought mine through the woot deal...
Can it be done? I cant seem to find any information on it...
Short answer: No
Windows is an Intel based operating system
Windows Phones have intel based processors like the "Intel Atom"
Android is a linux based operating system that is designed to run on ARMx based processors like the Snapdragon and TegraII.
Any way to run a virtual machine and run it or a bootable usb of windows 7?
mr208 said:
Any way to run a virtual machine and run it or a bootable usb of windows 7?
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Not too sure about Virtual Machine but I did read somewhere on this forum that someone successfully ran "Ubuntu" on the GTAB so there may a VM involvement somewhere in there.
Search "Ubuntu" on the "Viewsonic G Tablet" forums..
Windows Phones have intel based processors like the "Intel Atom"
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False... Windows phone 7 is currently designed to run on ARM, just like all other major phone OS's.
Not too sure about Virtual Machine but I did read somewhere on this forum that someone successfully ran "Ubuntu" on the GTAB so there may a VM involvement somewhere in there.
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The reason for this is Ubuntu has a version of it that is compiled for ARM processors, it is not running in a VM.
Windows 7 will NEVER work on the gtablet hardware. Never. Ever.
Got it? . Just want to make that clear.
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False... Windows phone 7 is currently designed to run on ARM, just like all other major phone OS's.
The reason for this is Ubuntu has a version of it that is compiled for ARM processors, it is not running in a VM.
Windows 7 will NEVER work on the gtablet hardware. Never. Ever.
Got it? . Just want to make that clear.
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WHAT the HELL? I'm just trying to help the guy out.
How about being a contributor and not being a Jerk about it!
If I'm wrong I'll own up to it. XDA is about helping and not about being condescending to other members!
Sorry, wasn't trying to come off as a jerk, but after reading my post it did sound like it. I just have read enough of the threads on this subject to know the reasons it won't work.
Windows 7 is built for x86 processors.
That would be your intel atoms, pentiums of late, core i5's i7's whatever.
Windows Phone 7 runs on a version of Windows CE. Windows CE was built for ARM processors. These are the processors that you find in your modern smartphones be it iPhone, and all Android phones.
ARM processors are well suited to low power mobile processing hence they're use in about everything.
Linux has been built to run on both ARM and x86 processors, Windows 7 has not. Windows CE does but it's a different product from Windows 7.
Microsoft is rumored to be working on a Windows OS that will be made for ARM processors but one problem they know they will have is that all the current Windows programs won't run on this new OS.
The dual booting Viewsonic tablet that was out was using an Intel Atoom processor hence why it was able to run both android and Windows.
Is there a way (or is someone working on this) to get our lovely TF to have dual boot for android and windows 8?
I'm really curious on how windows 8 would run on the TF.
No way to know yet, since we haven't seen an ARM version of Windows 8 yet. Once the ARM version leaks or gets ripped from a shipping device the devs might be able to port it.
Saiboogu said:
No way to know yet, since we haven't seen an ARM version of Windows 8 yet. Once the ARM version leaks or gets ripped from a shipping device the devs might be able to port it.
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10 char.
Oh how I dislike this company!
Might be difficult but not impossible...
"MANDATORY: Enable/Disable Secure Boot. On non-ARM systems, it is required to implement the ability to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup. A physically present user must be allowed to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup without possession of Pkpriv. Programmatic disabling of Secure Boot either during Boot Services or after exiting EFI Boot Services MUST NOT be possible. Disabling Secure MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems."
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No hacks == no buy
sorry no source.. I'm not allowed to post any links..
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Also I think the TF101 has too weak HW to be supported by Windows 8.
Iiirc (at least the 16GB version) does not have enough storage as minimum space manadated by Windows 8 is 20GBs.
I may be wrong about specifics and details, but I do remember this getting brought up earlier. The TF101 wont (in any supported way) be able to run Win 8.
Now that does ofcourse not mean nobody here on the forums can't make it happen. But like its already been said: So far no arm leak of Windows 8 to fool around with.
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Also I think the TF101 has too weak HW to be supported by Windows 8.
Iiirc (at least the 16GB version) does not have enough storage as minimum space manadated by Windows 8 is 20GBs.
I may be wrong about specifics and details, but I do remember this getting brought up earlier. The TF101 wont (in any supported way) be able to run Win 8.
Now that does ofcourse not mean nobody here on the forums can't make it happen. But like its already been said: So far no arm leak of Windows 8 to fool around with.
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I have windows 8 on a old celeron laptop with 512mb of ram compared to my tf's 1gb of ram well 720mb realistically and it actually ran better than it did with xp!!
Plus it was the single core celeron at 1.6ghz my tf is 2 cores at 1.59ghz and both are 32bit
I think we can get it running once an arm version is released
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Keen to see if Windows 8 will work on the TF101, but lacking the technical ability to attempt to install it, I'm wondering if anyone here has attempted to run the Windows 8 Consumer Preview on their transformer?
If so, how did you do it and did it perform?
Consumer preview is 32 and 64 bit not arm so it will not run
Microsoft also said that the bootloader on arm devices will be locked so you will only be able to get windows 8 arm on devices that come with it
I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
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I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
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thats right microsoft demo'd windows 8 on arm using a tegra 2 tablet with one gig of ram
they showed it when they first showed windows
Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
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Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
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Not really. Windows 8 for ARM will not be available to buy separately. It will only come pre-installed on devices.
Perhaps someone skilled will be able to get it to work in some highly unofficial way but they'd have to find a way around the secure bootloader requirements and also figure out how to get hardware drivers for the device in that Windows 8. Unlike Android, Windows 8 isn't open source so 'hackers' will have a harder time getting it on different devices.
Tablets are not like PC's with fairly long upgrade paths available. You buy it as it is and hopefully the manufacturer will keep supporting it for a while with upgrades.
Asus/Microsoft will prefer you to buy a new tablet with Windows 8 pre-installed when it becomes available.
I am not even sure I want to run Windows 8 on a tegra 2 tablet.
Maybe it's just me but tegra 2 already feels pretty slow.
Or you have this for have a windows 8 theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555220
hello guys. today I think that maybe we can install Windows on Transformer but the space (16gb) maybe may stop us. I don't know if this guide works (developers, give me your opinion).
So, we install Ubuntu on TF101, then we install Windows in a second partition through this guide (it is translated in english, so there are translation error):
http://translate.google.it/translat....ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=482754&act=url
then through ubuntu boot we can use windows.
what do you think?? through windows 7 we can install windows 8
I do not take any responsibility if someone wants to try
sorry for my english if there are errors
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
What he means, and this is unfortunate, that the physical processor of the TF101 doesn't support any form of windows. When you buy a processor there's generally 3 types you can get, (x86, which is 32-bit os and general last 10-11 years) (x64, which is 64-bit os and generally new) and (ARM, which is a low-power Mobile processor.) The tf101 has an ARM, and windows os's were built for desktops and laptops running x86 and x64 processors, which are incompatible.
Hope I've shed a little light on why this just won't work.
whitekidney, if MSOFT decides to release a generic ARM version of win8, it will run on the TF, I swear it :!!!! lol
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But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
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No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
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No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
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With Windows 8 RT??? If with it works, I can wait and try with it.
but, before you said this, did you try it??if you don't try, you don't know anything
Win 8 RT for ARM hasn't been released. Go ahead and brick your transformer trying to install it if you like :]
Seriously, it won't work until ARM has been implemented, give it time.
Windows 8 will be running on an Asus tablet at some point in the near future. However, I doubt it will ever run on our current Transformer.
Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
if you want windows 8 on an asus transformer wait for the asus "transformer Book"
From what I read in the link I'm providing below, Windows 8 RT will only be available pre-installed on PCs or tablets. To get it on our current TF101 or TF201 doesn't sound to be possible without someone breaking some rules somewhere.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
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No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
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Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
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he was talking about installing xp or a previous version in the comment and yes windows will run on arm but not on the transformer as windows RT is installed by the OEM and can not be changed or installed on any other platform
Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide.
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Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
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Much like OSX ( Apples OS ) requires Efi too right..... yeah ok. Typing this from my home built i7 rig ( with a regular bios ) running 10.7
My point you ask? Simple ...... efi can be emulated at the lowest level possible prior to the OS itself running. I'm betting one of our awesome devs gets things working soon enough.
Also to Dragon_79 -
"Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide."
The tegra2 has more horsepower than the integrated Intel HD graphics. I seriously doubt that the GPU isn't powerful enough.
I'm eagerly waiting
Windows 8 on Asus Transformer tf101
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No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
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the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
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NO. Windows RT uses a secure boot it will never run on the transformer
asus and acer devices
asus do plan on releasing a new transformer named the vivo9(I may be in coorrect about the name), and acer are planing on releasing a device with the same idea, both devices will run windows rt and possibly windows 8, but if the microsoft surface is anything to go by, a windows rt tablet is not that great
I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
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I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
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If you want to run your usual *.exe, you need a machine with the hardware architecture it was compiled for.
So if you want to run a program which was compiled for x86, you need a x86 tablet.
What you could do is emulating x86 hardware on the arm (there are solutions for that), but it would be awfully slow. You can use it for proof-of-concepts, but not much more.
Hi xda,
I've heard about the RT version of windows 8 that support ARM processors,
can we install it on our tablets one day? or there's no hope that our galaxytabs will run that kind of os ?
cheers!
Not gonna happen. At least any time soon.
We are gonna need device drivers and M$ wont be providing them for us to develop Android on their Surface devices.
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michael_zz said:
Hi xda,
I've heard about the RT version of windows 8 that support ARM processors,
can we install it on our tablets one day? or there's no hope that our galaxytabs will run that kind of os ?
cheers!
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But open web os can be ported to tab2.since W RT is propietary it can not be ported.
Win8 on these tabs would be dreadful ,Thats even if you could run it on them. Buy a surface and have the real thing !
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-GB/surface-with-windows-rt/home
32GB*, 64GB
10.6" ClearType HD Display
1366x768 pixels
16:9 (widescreen)
5-point multi-touch
CPU Quad-core NVIDIA Tegra 3
2GB RAM
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