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[Q] Windows on Gtab?

Will it be possible to put a version of windows on the gtab? I know they are working on linux with a distro of ubuntu, does anyone know if it is possible?
Dont get me wrong i love android but this is a powerful device and id like to squeeze all i can out of it

acuralegendz said:
Will it be possible to put a version of windows on the gtab? I know they are working on linux with a distro of ubuntu, does anyone know if it is possible?
Dont get me wrong i love android but this is a powerful device and id like to squeeze all i can out of it
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Considering that the Tegra 2 is a RISC CPU and to my knowledge the only Windows version that is written for RISC CPUs is WinCE I'm guess the answer to your question is yes and no. Yes technically an OS made by MS in the Windows "family" (WinCE) could be ported to the gtab but realistically the kind of windows variant that I think you're looking for (XP/Win7) no. And you're right this is a powerful piece of hardware... way more that is necessary for WinCE so on al counts it's doubtful that windows will ever make it onto the gtab.

Actually I believe if someone can rip the proper files from the dual booting 10" viewsonic this might be possible. I would have to look at the internals, but I would assume they are the same. I know it is running win7 starter and I believe Android 1.6. I was actually gonna look at that this weekend. Problem is with the small internal memory might be worth it to invest in a 32gb chip.

romanrish said:
Actually I believe if someone can rip the proper files from the dual booting 10" viewsonic this might be possible. I would have to look at the internals, but I would assume they are the same. I know it is running win7 starter and I believe Android 1.6. I was actually gonna look at that this weekend. Problem is with the small internal memory might be worth it to invest in a 32gb chip.
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Actually there is a reason that it is running android 1.6. 1.6 has a compiled version that runs on x86 architecture.
No dice on win 7 on this puppy sorry

Scratch that. I just looked at the specs and they are not even close other than the screen. Well it was a thought.

romanrish said:
Scratch that. I just looked at the specs and they are not even close other than the screen. Well it was a thought.
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The other tablet is uses Intel Atom CPU, hence why it works, would have been nice if that tablet had Android 2.2....but who wants Win7 when you got android....hahaha

I agree about android over win, but I always like to have the ability to. I have my linux box w/ a tiny Win7 partition. Course every time I log into it. I remember why I stopped using windows
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The VS 10" multi-boot tablet has an Atom (x86) CPU and dual boots Windows 7 and Android 1.6 (IIRC).
The only thing vaguely like Windows that you MIGHT be able to get on the gTab will be some version of wince(and I do -- they're trying to call it Windows Mobile now since wince was so awful, but it sounds like it hasn't helped).

I'd actually like to see how well WinMo 6.5, like my old touch pro had, would run on a g-tab. I really enjoyed that old phone.

Dual Core Question

I am just wondering. I am a huge fan of android and am using Desire HD now. But I was wondering if a dual core tablet can be installed with Windows 7? I only need the W7 just to sync with my android phone. Maybe I can install RUU or any other ROMS in the future using my tablet.

Not quite sure what your asking here... Dual Core x86 processor tablets would probably run windows 7, Dual Core Arm Processor can not as windows is x86 processor specification and Android is Arm. All android devices are compatible to the best of my knowledge with windows 7 so if your worried about getting an android tablet and not having support for it then don't worry. Other than that i hope i answered your question.

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Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.

The Old One said:
Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.

Yes, Atom x86 CPU and Android 1.6 (last version to support x86).
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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GaryHypnosis said:
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Viewsonic's Viewpad 10 uses the intel atom cpu to my knowledge. I don't know the details behind it but have read that Android 1.6 is the last version of Android that can run on x86 architecture. Maybe a dev. will be able to explain that part.
It would have made lots of sense for Google to make 2.x and up compatible with x86/x64 but I suppose there may be politics involved (imho, it can't be much else, since Linux runs on everything and Android is based almost entirely on Linux)....or maybe it would be more work or too much code needed. Since 2.2 is meant primarily for phones first, maybe they didn't see a need to bloat it up.
I wouldn't mind if Android needed a 650MB-1GB install as long as it works well.
Here's a snippet, you will be able to find more if you google it....though I can't find a reason as to why myself.

Hi,
I don't know if VS did their own work or may have used stuff from the Android X86 project:
http://www.android-x86.org/
or something similar (I think that there are other efforts like this)...
As you can see, the project is currently on 1.6, but:
http://www.android-x86.org/#What_we_are_working_on_now
says their working on Froyo:
What we are working on now
Port Froyo to x86 (froyo-x86 branch)
OpenGL hardware accelerator to froyo-x86 (olv, cwhuang)
New x86 toolchain (cwhuang)
Ethernet update (Yi)
Automount for new vold (cwhuang)
New target sparta (Doug)
New target viewpad10 (Al Sutton)
New target viliv s5 (okwon)
Mplayer porting (okwon
BTW, if you have a Windows PC, you can actually run that Android (1.6) on it. I had done that earlier, before getting my Gtab.
Jim

As one of the members pointed out, and if you check out the hands ons that have been done recently, ViewPad10 does indeed use Androidx86 project. GREAT News is, they just released Froyo-x86 (http://www.android-x86.org/releases/release_2_2) and there is a specific ISO for the ViewPad10. I actually just ordered 5 from one of my vendors (1 to keep and 4 to sell) so I am definitely going to pop that Froyo-x86 in mine and see how it whirls! I'm very excited by the prospects of a dual boot Froyo7 tablet!

Did you load the 2.2 iso onto one, and if so how well did it work? I just want to use a copy of android so I can use the apps I already bought for my phone.

Some of the latest so called 'dual-boot' tablets are actually going to be using an android virtual machine which will run within windows.
If anyone's comfortable compiling their own kernel and drivers then they stand a chance of 'rolling their own' VM otherwise unless someone with the knowhow takes up the banner for a particular device, I would consider this option out of reach.

Which tablet devices have you seen running an Android VM? I ran the 2.2 live USB on my VPad10 but it was missing wifi. Everything else seems to run great. Its fast and functional! Except the wifi. :-(
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the v10 specific iso didn't support wifi?!?!?!?

VPad and Froyo
I've picked up a VPad10 and have tried upgrading Android to 2.2 and have found that the interface buttons seemed out of place . I had a hard time moving backwards through the various pages - I had to tap the upper right corner on the bar and tap a second time in order to move back to the previous screen.
I found the interface too different from the standard to make it useful. I've since reverted back to 1.6
I had difficulty loading the Froyo (.img.gz) version. I've tried opening the gz on my Linux machine (vcersus my Windows box) and still get the same problem. Can the Froyo beta be loaded as iso image like the others, it would make my life easier?

I placed an order for the 10" gtablet the other day. This thread saved me from some dissapointment by trying to save a couple bucks.
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Windows 8 Consumer Preview

Keen to see if Windows 8 will work on the TF101, but lacking the technical ability to attempt to install it, I'm wondering if anyone here has attempted to run the Windows 8 Consumer Preview on their transformer?
If so, how did you do it and did it perform?

Consumer preview is 32 and 64 bit not arm so it will not run
Microsoft also said that the bootloader on arm devices will be locked so you will only be able to get windows 8 arm on devices that come with it

I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.

horndroid said:
I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
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thats right microsoft demo'd windows 8 on arm using a tegra 2 tablet with one gig of ram
they showed it when they first showed windows

Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!

farr3ll said:
Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
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Not really. Windows 8 for ARM will not be available to buy separately. It will only come pre-installed on devices.
Perhaps someone skilled will be able to get it to work in some highly unofficial way but they'd have to find a way around the secure bootloader requirements and also figure out how to get hardware drivers for the device in that Windows 8. Unlike Android, Windows 8 isn't open source so 'hackers' will have a harder time getting it on different devices.
Tablets are not like PC's with fairly long upgrade paths available. You buy it as it is and hopefully the manufacturer will keep supporting it for a while with upgrades.
Asus/Microsoft will prefer you to buy a new tablet with Windows 8 pre-installed when it becomes available.

I am not even sure I want to run Windows 8 on a tegra 2 tablet.
Maybe it's just me but tegra 2 already feels pretty slow.

Or you have this for have a windows 8 theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555220

[Q] Windows on Asus TF101

hello guys. today I think that maybe we can install Windows on Transformer but the space (16gb) maybe may stop us. I don't know if this guide works (developers, give me your opinion).
So, we install Ubuntu on TF101, then we install Windows in a second partition through this guide (it is translated in english, so there are translation error):
http://translate.google.it/translat....ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=482754&act=url
then through ubuntu boot we can use windows.
what do you think?? through windows 7 we can install windows 8
I do not take any responsibility if someone wants to try
sorry for my english if there are errors

No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.

whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/

What he means, and this is unfortunate, that the physical processor of the TF101 doesn't support any form of windows. When you buy a processor there's generally 3 types you can get, (x86, which is 32-bit os and general last 10-11 years) (x64, which is 64-bit os and generally new) and (ARM, which is a low-power Mobile processor.) The tf101 has an ARM, and windows os's were built for desktops and laptops running x86 and x64 processors, which are incompatible.
Hope I've shed a little light on why this just won't work.
whitekidney, if MSOFT decides to release a generic ARM version of win8, it will run on the TF, I swear it :!!!! lol

prendomiao said:
But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
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No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.

whitekidney said:
No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
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With Windows 8 RT??? If with it works, I can wait and try with it.
but, before you said this, did you try it??if you don't try, you don't know anything

Win 8 RT for ARM hasn't been released. Go ahead and brick your transformer trying to install it if you like :]
Seriously, it won't work until ARM has been implemented, give it time.

Windows 8 will be running on an Asus tablet at some point in the near future. However, I doubt it will ever run on our current Transformer.

Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.

if you want windows 8 on an asus transformer wait for the asus "transformer Book"

From what I read in the link I'm providing below, Windows 8 RT will only be available pre-installed on PCs or tablets. To get it on our current TF101 or TF201 doesn't sound to be possible without someone breaking some rules somewhere.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx

whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT

demoneyes905 said:
Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
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he was talking about installing xp or a previous version in the comment and yes windows will run on arm but not on the transformer as windows RT is installed by the OEM and can not be changed or installed on any other platform

Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide.
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laslow said:
Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
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Much like OSX ( Apples OS ) requires Efi too right..... yeah ok. Typing this from my home built i7 rig ( with a regular bios ) running 10.7
My point you ask? Simple ...... efi can be emulated at the lowest level possible prior to the OS itself running. I'm betting one of our awesome devs gets things working soon enough.
Also to Dragon_79 -
"Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide."
The tegra2 has more horsepower than the integrated Intel HD graphics. I seriously doubt that the GPU isn't powerful enough.
I'm eagerly waiting

Windows 8 on Asus Transformer tf101
whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:

vetman said:
the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
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NO. Windows RT uses a secure boot it will never run on the transformer

asus and acer devices
asus do plan on releasing a new transformer named the vivo9(I may be in coorrect about the name), and acer are planing on releasing a device with the same idea, both devices will run windows rt and possibly windows 8, but if the microsoft surface is anything to go by, a windows rt tablet is not that great

I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.

tihimasmo said:
I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
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If you want to run your usual *.exe, you need a machine with the hardware architecture it was compiled for.
So if you want to run a program which was compiled for x86, you need a x86 tablet.
What you could do is emulating x86 hardware on the arm (there are solutions for that), but it would be awfully slow. You can use it for proof-of-concepts, but not much more.

Question with windows 8 and Android

This is a question on the Computer CPU with the new Windows 8 and Android.
I am considering upgrading my tower to a new CPU and wondering if the Windows 8 and Android have any problems? I don't know a h**l of a lot about the OS and running Windows 7 now. I have read several articles that preinstalled Windows 8 can't be downgraded as there is a built in glitch on the OS and the motherboard that prevents the downgrade and will kill the CPU. I am maybe considering building a system and installing Windows 7 but I don't know a lot about competely building a computer unit. I have installed various components and had luck with that. I can find only one factory built that meets what I want in a CPU but like most its preinstalled with windows 8. So I was just wondering if there is any problems with flashing roms and such from a windows 8 unit before I ditch out 5 or 6 hundred for a new computer.

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This is a question on the Computer CPU with the new Windows 8 and Android.
I am considering upgrading my tower to a new CPU and wondering if the Windows 8 and Android have any problems? I don't know a h**l of a lot about the OS and running Windows 7 now. I have read several articles that preinstalled Windows 8 can't be downgraded as there is a built in glitch on the OS and the motherboard that prevents the downgrade and will kill the CPU. I am maybe considering building a system and installing Windows 7 but I don't know a lot about competely building a computer unit. I have installed various components and had luck with that. I can find only one factory built that meets what I want in a CPU but like most its preinstalled with windows 8. So I was just wondering if there is any problems with flashing roms and such from a windows 8 unit before I ditch out 5 or 6 hundred for a new computer.
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The only issue I have seen is USB drivers not recognizing Android Devices and problems installing the drivers.
Here is the link for the way to resolve the issue http://kwangzspace.wordpress.com/20...alling-android-usb-driver-in-windows-8-64bit/
Hope this helps.

Venomtester said:
The only issue I have seen is USB drivers not recognizing Android Devices and problems installing the drivers.
Here is the link for the way to resolve the issue http://kwangzspace.wordpress.com/20...alling-android-usb-driver-in-windows-8-64bit/
Hope this helps.
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Ok, thanks, I haven't taken the step yet to upgrade but been debating the issue. My computer is slow and getting slower with all the software and such today. Being computer illiterate , I don't really know if to try to keep win 7 or go with win 8. However which way I am considering a 1T HD and about 16 gig ram with an i5 or i7 chip. I am hopeing when done it will fly and pass a F-18. With my present set up it takes about 45 seconds to copy a zip to the phone. AT 65 now and retired I feel the need for speed.

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Ok, thanks, I haven't taken the step yet to upgrade but been debating the issue. My computer is slow and getting slower with all the software and such today. Being computer illiterate , I don't really know if to try to keep win 7 or go with win 8. However which way I am considering a 1T HD and about 16 gig ram with an i5 or i7 chip. I am hopeing when done it will fly and pass a F-18. With my present set up it takes about 45 seconds to copy a zip to the phone. AT 65 now and retired I feel the need for speed.
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With that setup you could run a small country lol.

Crazy processor and way overkill on ram only to be crazy bottlenecked by a mechanical drive lol
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exad said:
Crazy processor and way overkill on ram only to be crazy bottlenecked by a mechanical drive lol
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Yes indeed. SS would be the way to go.