This is a question on the Computer CPU with the new Windows 8 and Android.
I am considering upgrading my tower to a new CPU and wondering if the Windows 8 and Android have any problems? I don't know a h**l of a lot about the OS and running Windows 7 now. I have read several articles that preinstalled Windows 8 can't be downgraded as there is a built in glitch on the OS and the motherboard that prevents the downgrade and will kill the CPU. I am maybe considering building a system and installing Windows 7 but I don't know a lot about competely building a computer unit. I have installed various components and had luck with that. I can find only one factory built that meets what I want in a CPU but like most its preinstalled with windows 8. So I was just wondering if there is any problems with flashing roms and such from a windows 8 unit before I ditch out 5 or 6 hundred for a new computer.
leesumm said:
This is a question on the Computer CPU with the new Windows 8 and Android.
I am considering upgrading my tower to a new CPU and wondering if the Windows 8 and Android have any problems? I don't know a h**l of a lot about the OS and running Windows 7 now. I have read several articles that preinstalled Windows 8 can't be downgraded as there is a built in glitch on the OS and the motherboard that prevents the downgrade and will kill the CPU. I am maybe considering building a system and installing Windows 7 but I don't know a lot about competely building a computer unit. I have installed various components and had luck with that. I can find only one factory built that meets what I want in a CPU but like most its preinstalled with windows 8. So I was just wondering if there is any problems with flashing roms and such from a windows 8 unit before I ditch out 5 or 6 hundred for a new computer.
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The only issue I have seen is USB drivers not recognizing Android Devices and problems installing the drivers.
Here is the link for the way to resolve the issue http://kwangzspace.wordpress.com/20...alling-android-usb-driver-in-windows-8-64bit/
Hope this helps.
Venomtester said:
The only issue I have seen is USB drivers not recognizing Android Devices and problems installing the drivers.
Here is the link for the way to resolve the issue http://kwangzspace.wordpress.com/20...alling-android-usb-driver-in-windows-8-64bit/
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Ok, thanks, I haven't taken the step yet to upgrade but been debating the issue. My computer is slow and getting slower with all the software and such today. Being computer illiterate , I don't really know if to try to keep win 7 or go with win 8. However which way I am considering a 1T HD and about 16 gig ram with an i5 or i7 chip. I am hopeing when done it will fly and pass a F-18. With my present set up it takes about 45 seconds to copy a zip to the phone. AT 65 now and retired I feel the need for speed.
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Ok, thanks, I haven't taken the step yet to upgrade but been debating the issue. My computer is slow and getting slower with all the software and such today. Being computer illiterate , I don't really know if to try to keep win 7 or go with win 8. However which way I am considering a 1T HD and about 16 gig ram with an i5 or i7 chip. I am hopeing when done it will fly and pass a F-18. With my present set up it takes about 45 seconds to copy a zip to the phone. AT 65 now and retired I feel the need for speed.
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With that setup you could run a small country lol.
Crazy processor and way overkill on ram only to be crazy bottlenecked by a mechanical drive lol
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exad said:
Crazy processor and way overkill on ram only to be crazy bottlenecked by a mechanical drive lol
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Yes indeed. SS would be the way to go.
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I notice a couple of phone in China which have xp on the phone including the (xphone) and a dual operating system with xp and android called the (via 500mhz mid). Why can't we make something like this in America??? I thought the touch pro 2 was a mini computer. Why has any abody hacked it to work on the touch pro 2
never going to happen.
this phone is running ARM cpu. XP is only for x86 cpu. there is no ARM version.
what you see is another OS made to look like XP or that phone is running x86 cpu.
Are you kidding? XP on a TP2? What he said.... not gonna happen. Not just for CPU type reasons. Even if XP could run on ARM architecture, the speed to boot would be so slow. You would at lease need a 1GHZ Snapdragon CPU, plus double the RAM.
I seen Windows 95 on a Pocket PC quite a few times. IMO, it sucks. Ancient tech, besides glitchy ass Win95... I'll pass.
What would be nice if there were an app that allowed you to run older 16 & 32 bit win 98 apps. There's still a number of apps I run on my current XP setup that are from the 400-600 mhz X86 era. Would be cool if I could run them on here
Windows XP Pirate Edition from Wikipedia. Please read this with an open mind.
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I believe theTouch Pro 2 should be a little better than a piece of crab pc right?
They claim you can play warcraft fast on a piece of crap computer. Why can't xp work? The only limitation for it to work be x86 processor that would be required to run it. If somebody could make xp run on a micro SD card similarly like what is being done with the android wouldn't this be awesome. To have a dual boot system with windows mobile being the primary OS and xp being the secondary OS running from a micro SD card.
despite the fact that windows xp is designed for x86 processors, what makes it more impossible is the fact that the source code is not publicly available. what makes the android port possible is the fact that it is an open source os.
And what about windows 98? a friend of mine, made run it in a htc touch! :O
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And what about windows 98? a friend of mine, made run it in a htc touch! :O
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and i bet it ran like crap
it was likely done through an emulator that emulated the x86 processor, the problem there is you need a lot higher specs than the system you are trying to emulate, 4x is the rule of thumb IIRC
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and i bet it ran like crap
it was likely done through an emulator that emulated the x86 processor, the problem there is you need a lot higher specs than the system you are trying to emulate, 4x is the rule of thumb IIRC
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This whole thing would be a mess - XP kinda sucks anyway - but if you want it on your phone just use logmein, gotomypc, or even the built-in RDP and just interface with a real PC. Better yet - interface with a real PC running win7.
Just curious about this, do you think it might be possible to port Windows 8 ARM to our Transformer, Xoom and so on? What would be the system requirements of such a thing?
I love this future questions that nobody know
Just a guess mostly likey yes
I guesses most of the drivers will be exist the development will start fast
But lets wait
Windows 8 comes out when? Early 2013?
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microsoft demod windows on arm using a tegra 2, i donno if it was windows 8 as they didnt show the interface only a desktop environment
removed.
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Actually, we can still start now.
Many people (incl. myself) already have the leaked build 7989
CPU: 1 GHz or faster
RAM: 1 GB ( for 32-bit) and 2 GB (for 64-bit)
Hard disk: 16 GB (for 32-bit) and 20 GB (for 64-bit)
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1) Is it the arm version?
2) is it a legit version.
Between now and forever...depending on licencing...there would prabobly zero development with windows 8 on xda.
Unless the device speciafically comes with it...or ms allows people to install/buy it into a specific target device, distributing a rom containing windows 8 would be like posting a pirated copy of windows.
So as far windows 8 development on the tf, not gonna happen
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Well at least until can put ubuntu on it. That leaves the door open for other Distros.
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With the leak of build 7989, i'd love to see a port for the transformer. In fact, i bought the transformer exclusively because of win8, as I need one note.
why did you buy this for windows 8? Asus has many almost identical tablets (albeit a bit thicker) that run windows 7 fine. And microsoft said that any computer that could run windows 7 could run windows 8.
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Windows 8 comes out when? Early 2013?
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March 2012 is the latest I heard (Mary Jo Foley post)
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jerrykur said:
March 2012 OS the latest
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Um thats my birthday.
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With the leak of build 7989, i'd love to see a port for the transformer. In fact, i bought the transformer exclusively because of win8, as I need one note.
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the leak is x64, not arm.
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A msft video which shows a prototype tablet powered by a kal-el quad-core arm soc running windows 8, was really stunning. That should be it.
Sounds like a neat project. There's got to be a significant amount of driver porting work to do though.
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why did you buy this for windows 8? Asus has many almost identical tablets (albeit a bit thicker) that run windows 7 fine. And microsoft said that any computer that could run windows 7 could run windows 8.
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the only other asus tablet runs at $1000+, and has poor battery life. win 8 with arm support will be the way to go.
6 months from now the transformer will look like a piece of crap compared to what will be out. If you want windows 8 the best option would be to buy a new tablet that has it on there. The best point was made on the previous page which stated porting windows will be considered piracy and therefore banned from the forum. IF Microsoft releases windows 8 ARM as an installer (usb,cd,flash chips, who knows...) then there could be guides on here but NO ROMS as Windows is not FOSS. Then there's the price to consider... Don't get me wrong I would love Windows 8 on my TF but be realistic, it's not gonna happen.
it wouldn't be piracy if you were able to provide a legitimate proof of purchase.windows requiresaproduct key so if you went to the store and bought the disk then if someone found a way to modify the install process to run on transformer you could enter your product key and it would be perfectly legit. Allot of hard work but legal nonetheless
I am 100% there will be no Windows 8 development for Asus transformer at least on xda, and the other thing I am pretty sure about that Asus TF won't be able to run it, seriosly you think that Microsoft will make windows 8 so optimized that it work on "smartphone" processor Tegra 2? Nothing against windows, love it, but I think that tegra 2 processors are not powefull enough to run desktop OS. If there will be anykind of port of windows 8 on TF I would install it right away, but what can you do on it having only 1gig of ram? Check email on glitchy IE(I personaly hate it)? And by the time Windows 8 is going to be released, there will be new TF2. So insted of hoping for port of windows 8 on TF, better start saving money for TF2 or Windows 8 tablet which would give full new windows experience insted of ported one!
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Who cares about windows 8, can we boot windows 7 on our TF? as much as I love android 3 it can't be compared to windows.. could we boot it? the TF as duel core cpu while same 10' mini laptops as less powerfull single core..
Is there a way (or is someone working on this) to get our lovely TF to have dual boot for android and windows 8?
I'm really curious on how windows 8 would run on the TF.
No way to know yet, since we haven't seen an ARM version of Windows 8 yet. Once the ARM version leaks or gets ripped from a shipping device the devs might be able to port it.
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No way to know yet, since we haven't seen an ARM version of Windows 8 yet. Once the ARM version leaks or gets ripped from a shipping device the devs might be able to port it.
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10 char.
Oh how I dislike this company!
Might be difficult but not impossible...
"MANDATORY: Enable/Disable Secure Boot. On non-ARM systems, it is required to implement the ability to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup. A physically present user must be allowed to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup without possession of Pkpriv. Programmatic disabling of Secure Boot either during Boot Services or after exiting EFI Boot Services MUST NOT be possible. Disabling Secure MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems."
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No hacks == no buy
sorry no source.. I'm not allowed to post any links..
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10 char.
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Also I think the TF101 has too weak HW to be supported by Windows 8.
Iiirc (at least the 16GB version) does not have enough storage as minimum space manadated by Windows 8 is 20GBs.
I may be wrong about specifics and details, but I do remember this getting brought up earlier. The TF101 wont (in any supported way) be able to run Win 8.
Now that does ofcourse not mean nobody here on the forums can't make it happen. But like its already been said: So far no arm leak of Windows 8 to fool around with.
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Also I think the TF101 has too weak HW to be supported by Windows 8.
Iiirc (at least the 16GB version) does not have enough storage as minimum space manadated by Windows 8 is 20GBs.
I may be wrong about specifics and details, but I do remember this getting brought up earlier. The TF101 wont (in any supported way) be able to run Win 8.
Now that does ofcourse not mean nobody here on the forums can't make it happen. But like its already been said: So far no arm leak of Windows 8 to fool around with.
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I have windows 8 on a old celeron laptop with 512mb of ram compared to my tf's 1gb of ram well 720mb realistically and it actually ran better than it did with xp!!
Plus it was the single core celeron at 1.6ghz my tf is 2 cores at 1.59ghz and both are 32bit
I think we can get it running once an arm version is released
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This thread is actually aimed toward developers and advanced users, but anyone is welcomed to respond. I am curious about which OS is preferred by those that help us all. Overall, windows is more prevalent. But I suspect that a lot of people here use other things.
I will start off. Up until a few weeks ago, I used windows solely. Then I developed an interest in Linux. I just updated my dual booted Win XP/Ubuntu machine today. But, up until a month ago I used a Win7 machine. I still have a lot, and I mean a lot, of learning to do with Linux.
Now, who's next?
Ubuntu, might change with Windows 8 we will see.
I am not amused with your phones performance
Linux
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I will try Ubuntu whenever I get a new computer or finish school. I need to have Office for my school and from what I have read it just isn't very good, or its tough to get to work properly. More trouble than what I can troubleshoot right now. So for me its Vista...bleh.
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I will try Ubuntu whenever I get a new computer or finish school. I need to have Office for my school and from what I have read it just isn't very good, or its tough to get to work properly. More trouble than what I can troubleshoot right now. So for me its Vista...bleh.
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You could always dual boot Ubuntu using the WUBI installer.
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You could always dual boot Ubuntu using the WUBI installer.
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That is beyond my scope at the moment.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!
windows 7 ultimate 64bit on my main desktop which is my gaming rig.... its like a nuclear reactor..
all my laptops run ubuntu 64bit. one of them is 11.10, my big dev laptop is 10.10, google chromebook (obviously runs chrome OS). i have another laptop that i try out different distros on. my 12" laptop runs backtrack5 used them all, but ubuntu works the best with the least amount of dickin around. when i want to have fun i run arch, when i want to pull my hair out i run fedora... lol
my servers are a mix of arch, fedora, debian...
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windows 7 ultimate 64bit on my main desktop which is my gaming rig.... its like a nuclear reactor..
all my laptops run ubuntu 64bit. one of them is 11.10, my big dev laptop is 10.10, google chromebook (obviously runs chrome OS). i have another laptop that i try out different distros on. my 12" laptop runs backtrack5 used them all, but ubuntu works the best with the least amount of dickin around. when i want to have fun i run arch, when i want to pull my hair out i run fedora... lol
my servers are a mix of arch, fedora, debian...
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Do you have a computer for each phone?
At the moment I am dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 8 Dev Preview but when I get the chance I plan on installing PCLinuxOS when the dev preview is locked out.
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Well Windows is the chosen primary (cuz my family uses the computer too) and dual booted with Ubuntu (my primary)!
When i buy a new desktop (HP 6 core 3.4 GHz each core) i built it to be top of the line so i could do anything i need! Ubuntu will be the Primary OS on that!
If you know where i can get a good desktop or laptop, let me know, ok?
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Do you have a computer for each phone?
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LOL....kind of. i got rid of some devices. just down to galaxy s2, captivate, aria, atrix, touchpad, ipad1 -64gb3g, iphone4, oh and i still have a mytouch4g or 2
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Well Windows is the chosen primary (cuz my family uses the computer too) and dual booted with Ubuntu (my primary)!
When i buy a new desktop (HP 6 core 3.4 GHz each core) i built it to be top of the line so i could do anything i need! Ubuntu will be the Primary OS on that!
If you know where i can get a good desktop or laptop, let me know, ok?
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Well you would save a lot of money if you built your own computer. Your options are a lot less limited, and you get to have fun doing it. I don't know how much you plan to spend on the HP but I built my computer for about $1100 and I have a six core processor overclocked at 4ghz with a 2gb radeon HD 6950 graphics card, 8 gigs of corsair vengeance ddr3 1600mhz, a ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm western digital caviar black hdd. Lots of fun stuff when you build your own PC.
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Well you would save a lot of money if you built your own computer. Your options are a lot less limited, and you get to have fun doing it. I don't know how much you plan to spend on the HP but I built my computer for about $1100 and I have a six core processor overclocked at 4ghz with a 2gb radeon HD 6950 graphics card, 8 gigs of corsair vengeance ddr3 1600mhz, a ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm western digital caviar black hdd. Lots of fun stuff when you build your own PC.
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Where did you get your components? Store bought or Online.
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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thats too much.
3gb video processor?? wtf is that? sounds like nvidia quadro which wont run games the same way a desktop card will.
somebody needs a lesson in PC building 101
I have a netbook with XP ...LOL...
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Where did you get your components? Store bought or Online.
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It was a combination and just a little waiting for the right deals.
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b-eock said:
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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I don't know what you plan on doing with this PC but I'm positive you won't need 16gb of RAM ditch the 3gb video card and get something like a 6970 or a top notch nvidia card. Post the parts in detail you chose and what you will be using the PC for
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I dumped windows a few months ago for Ubuntu. My 6 year old desktop runs Ubuntu 11.10 and my two year old Laptop runs the same thing. I just wish I people would focus on Heimdall than Odin.
I'll use anything but Linux.
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Keen to see if Windows 8 will work on the TF101, but lacking the technical ability to attempt to install it, I'm wondering if anyone here has attempted to run the Windows 8 Consumer Preview on their transformer?
If so, how did you do it and did it perform?
Consumer preview is 32 and 64 bit not arm so it will not run
Microsoft also said that the bootloader on arm devices will be locked so you will only be able to get windows 8 arm on devices that come with it
I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
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I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
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thats right microsoft demo'd windows 8 on arm using a tegra 2 tablet with one gig of ram
they showed it when they first showed windows
Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
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Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
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Not really. Windows 8 for ARM will not be available to buy separately. It will only come pre-installed on devices.
Perhaps someone skilled will be able to get it to work in some highly unofficial way but they'd have to find a way around the secure bootloader requirements and also figure out how to get hardware drivers for the device in that Windows 8. Unlike Android, Windows 8 isn't open source so 'hackers' will have a harder time getting it on different devices.
Tablets are not like PC's with fairly long upgrade paths available. You buy it as it is and hopefully the manufacturer will keep supporting it for a while with upgrades.
Asus/Microsoft will prefer you to buy a new tablet with Windows 8 pre-installed when it becomes available.
I am not even sure I want to run Windows 8 on a tegra 2 tablet.
Maybe it's just me but tegra 2 already feels pretty slow.
Or you have this for have a windows 8 theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555220