Possible to port Windows 8 ARM? - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just curious about this, do you think it might be possible to port Windows 8 ARM to our Transformer, Xoom and so on? What would be the system requirements of such a thing?

I love this future questions that nobody know

Just a guess mostly likey yes
I guesses most of the drivers will be exist the development will start fast
But lets wait

Windows 8 comes out when? Early 2013?
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microsoft demod windows on arm using a tegra 2, i donno if it was windows 8 as they didnt show the interface only a desktop environment

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mikeseth said:
Actually, we can still start now.
Many people (incl. myself) already have the leaked build 7989
CPU: 1 GHz or faster
RAM: 1 GB ( for 32-bit) and 2 GB (for 64-bit)
Hard disk: 16 GB (for 32-bit) and 20 GB (for 64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
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1) Is it the arm version?
2) is it a legit version.
Between now and forever...depending on licencing...there would prabobly zero development with windows 8 on xda.
Unless the device speciafically comes with it...or ms allows people to install/buy it into a specific target device, distributing a rom containing windows 8 would be like posting a pirated copy of windows.
So as far windows 8 development on the tf, not gonna happen
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Well at least until can put ubuntu on it. That leaves the door open for other Distros.
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With the leak of build 7989, i'd love to see a port for the transformer. In fact, i bought the transformer exclusively because of win8, as I need one note.

why did you buy this for windows 8? Asus has many almost identical tablets (albeit a bit thicker) that run windows 7 fine. And microsoft said that any computer that could run windows 7 could run windows 8.

david279 said:
Windows 8 comes out when? Early 2013?
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March 2012 is the latest I heard (Mary Jo Foley post)
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jerrykur said:
March 2012 OS the latest
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Um thats my birthday.

newtonc said:
With the leak of build 7989, i'd love to see a port for the transformer. In fact, i bought the transformer exclusively because of win8, as I need one note.
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the leak is x64, not arm.
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A msft video which shows a prototype tablet powered by a kal-el quad-core arm soc running windows 8, was really stunning. That should be it.

Sounds like a neat project. There's got to be a significant amount of driver porting work to do though.

Dyskmaster said:
why did you buy this for windows 8? Asus has many almost identical tablets (albeit a bit thicker) that run windows 7 fine. And microsoft said that any computer that could run windows 7 could run windows 8.
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the only other asus tablet runs at $1000+, and has poor battery life. win 8 with arm support will be the way to go.

6 months from now the transformer will look like a piece of crap compared to what will be out. If you want windows 8 the best option would be to buy a new tablet that has it on there. The best point was made on the previous page which stated porting windows will be considered piracy and therefore banned from the forum. IF Microsoft releases windows 8 ARM as an installer (usb,cd,flash chips, who knows...) then there could be guides on here but NO ROMS as Windows is not FOSS. Then there's the price to consider... Don't get me wrong I would love Windows 8 on my TF but be realistic, it's not gonna happen.

it wouldn't be piracy if you were able to provide a legitimate proof of purchase.windows requiresaproduct key so if you went to the store and bought the disk then if someone found a way to modify the install process to run on transformer you could enter your product key and it would be perfectly legit. Allot of hard work but legal nonetheless

I am 100% there will be no Windows 8 development for Asus transformer at least on xda, and the other thing I am pretty sure about that Asus TF won't be able to run it, seriosly you think that Microsoft will make windows 8 so optimized that it work on "smartphone" processor Tegra 2? Nothing against windows, love it, but I think that tegra 2 processors are not powefull enough to run desktop OS. If there will be anykind of port of windows 8 on TF I would install it right away, but what can you do on it having only 1gig of ram? Check email on glitchy IE(I personaly hate it)? And by the time Windows 8 is going to be released, there will be new TF2. So insted of hoping for port of windows 8 on TF, better start saving money for TF2 or Windows 8 tablet which would give full new windows experience insted of ported one!
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Who cares about windows 8, can we boot windows 7 on our TF? as much as I love android 3 it can't be compared to windows.. could we boot it? the TF as duel core cpu while same 10' mini laptops as less powerfull single core..

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How would YOU run windows on an android tablet?

How would YOU run windows on an android tablet? im getting the asus transformer prime and im wondering how you would get windows on an android tablet in the same way that viewsonic would ! come on devs im sure someone has an idea! post it here and lets figure it out.!
Link ( there might be a newer one out)
http://ap.viewsonic.com/za/products/viewpad/viewpad10/
don't see it happening
ianwardell said:
How would YOU run windows on an android tablet? im getting the asus transformer prime and im wondering how you would get windows on an android tablet in the same way that viewsonic would ! come on devs im sure someone has an idea! post it here and lets figure it out.!
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I wish you luck with this one. I just can't see it happening.
Maybe Ubuntu ported and Wine to run some Windows apps. That I could see as remotely possible.
Neil
Look up the new view sonic tablet. Somehow they do it o.o and iv already got a basic idea of how to get linux onto the tablet but if I could run windows that would just be cool.
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LG are supposed to be releasing a new handset soon with VMWare already on board. You might be able to use a virtual Win 7 mobile, or if/when Win 8 gets ARM support, use Win 8?
The Viewsonic does it by shipping with an Intel processor. Most Android devices have ARM processors, which makes it much more complicated. You would need an emulator like VMWare.
But its doable? Because I think the asus can handle it
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Not really, the problem is that windows in its actual version doesn't run on the ARM-architecture used in all Android-Tablets. If Windows 8 comes with an ARM-Version it could be possible to get it on Android-Tablets. Another Problem is, that Windows is not open-source, which makes it really hard to modify it.
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It would take an entirely new kernel to get it to run on an ARM processor. Everything has to change and I doubt anybody would be willing to figure it out and write an entire kernel.
The Transformer Prime has a Tegra 3 CPU, meaning ARM architecture. You would need an ARM version of Windows to run on it (meaning Win8). Also, correct me if I am wrong, Windows applications need to be compiled to run on ARM as well. Meaning, you can just download anything and expect it to install.
EDIT: The Viewsonic tablet in question has an Intel Atom processor (which is x86), an Atom N455 to be exact. That's why Windows has no problem running on it.
Oh.....but win8 would work? ....I know the ipad has a win emulator
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Windows 8 Consumer Preview

Keen to see if Windows 8 will work on the TF101, but lacking the technical ability to attempt to install it, I'm wondering if anyone here has attempted to run the Windows 8 Consumer Preview on their transformer?
If so, how did you do it and did it perform?
Consumer preview is 32 and 64 bit not arm so it will not run
Microsoft also said that the bootloader on arm devices will be locked so you will only be able to get windows 8 arm on devices that come with it
I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
horndroid said:
I saw on a reputable website a picture of Windows 8 running on a tegra 2 tablet with 1gb ram. So hardware wise, TF101 might be capable.
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thats right microsoft demo'd windows 8 on arm using a tegra 2 tablet with one gig of ram
they showed it when they first showed windows
Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
farr3ll said:
Thanks all, there is a glimmer of hope it seems!
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Not really. Windows 8 for ARM will not be available to buy separately. It will only come pre-installed on devices.
Perhaps someone skilled will be able to get it to work in some highly unofficial way but they'd have to find a way around the secure bootloader requirements and also figure out how to get hardware drivers for the device in that Windows 8. Unlike Android, Windows 8 isn't open source so 'hackers' will have a harder time getting it on different devices.
Tablets are not like PC's with fairly long upgrade paths available. You buy it as it is and hopefully the manufacturer will keep supporting it for a while with upgrades.
Asus/Microsoft will prefer you to buy a new tablet with Windows 8 pre-installed when it becomes available.
I am not even sure I want to run Windows 8 on a tegra 2 tablet.
Maybe it's just me but tegra 2 already feels pretty slow.
Or you have this for have a windows 8 theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555220

[Q] Windows on Asus TF101

hello guys. today I think that maybe we can install Windows on Transformer but the space (16gb) maybe may stop us. I don't know if this guide works (developers, give me your opinion).
So, we install Ubuntu on TF101, then we install Windows in a second partition through this guide (it is translated in english, so there are translation error):
http://translate.google.it/translat....ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=482754&act=url
then through ubuntu boot we can use windows.
what do you think?? through windows 7 we can install windows 8
I do not take any responsibility if someone wants to try
sorry for my english if there are errors
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
What he means, and this is unfortunate, that the physical processor of the TF101 doesn't support any form of windows. When you buy a processor there's generally 3 types you can get, (x86, which is 32-bit os and general last 10-11 years) (x64, which is 64-bit os and generally new) and (ARM, which is a low-power Mobile processor.) The tf101 has an ARM, and windows os's were built for desktops and laptops running x86 and x64 processors, which are incompatible.
Hope I've shed a little light on why this just won't work.
whitekidney, if MSOFT decides to release a generic ARM version of win8, it will run on the TF, I swear it :!!!! lol
prendomiao said:
But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
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No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
whitekidney said:
No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
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With Windows 8 RT??? If with it works, I can wait and try with it.
but, before you said this, did you try it??if you don't try, you don't know anything
Win 8 RT for ARM hasn't been released. Go ahead and brick your transformer trying to install it if you like :]
Seriously, it won't work until ARM has been implemented, give it time.
Windows 8 will be running on an Asus tablet at some point in the near future. However, I doubt it will ever run on our current Transformer.
Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
if you want windows 8 on an asus transformer wait for the asus "transformer Book"
From what I read in the link I'm providing below, Windows 8 RT will only be available pre-installed on PCs or tablets. To get it on our current TF101 or TF201 doesn't sound to be possible without someone breaking some rules somewhere.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
demoneyes905 said:
Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
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he was talking about installing xp or a previous version in the comment and yes windows will run on arm but not on the transformer as windows RT is installed by the OEM and can not be changed or installed on any other platform
Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide.
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laslow said:
Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
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Much like OSX ( Apples OS ) requires Efi too right..... yeah ok. Typing this from my home built i7 rig ( with a regular bios ) running 10.7
My point you ask? Simple ...... efi can be emulated at the lowest level possible prior to the OS itself running. I'm betting one of our awesome devs gets things working soon enough.
Also to Dragon_79 -
"Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide."
The tegra2 has more horsepower than the integrated Intel HD graphics. I seriously doubt that the GPU isn't powerful enough.
I'm eagerly waiting
Windows 8 on Asus Transformer tf101
whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
vetman said:
the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
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NO. Windows RT uses a secure boot it will never run on the transformer
asus and acer devices
asus do plan on releasing a new transformer named the vivo9(I may be in coorrect about the name), and acer are planing on releasing a device with the same idea, both devices will run windows rt and possibly windows 8, but if the microsoft surface is anything to go by, a windows rt tablet is not that great
I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
tihimasmo said:
I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
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If you want to run your usual *.exe, you need a machine with the hardware architecture it was compiled for.
So if you want to run a program which was compiled for x86, you need a x86 tablet.
What you could do is emulating x86 hardware on the arm (there are solutions for that), but it would be awfully slow. You can use it for proof-of-concepts, but not much more.

Dual boot anyone?

Is anyone working on dual booting ubuntu and android on the Infinity?
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This needs to happen. I cant help but feel that ubuntu would make this tablet much more usable and functional than ICS. Just my opinion.
Window 7 and or XP
quicknik said:
Is anyone working on dual booting ubuntu and android on the Infinity?
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I got my tf700 and I want to dual Boot it - put windows 7 and/or XP on it.
Is there any advice out there - before I get into the process?
windowsxpand7geek said:
I got my tf700 and I want to dual Boot it - put windows 7 and/or XP on it.
Is there any advice out there - before I get into the process?
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Dude, I hope you are joking. Any Windows prior to Windows 8 were designed specifically for x86-x64 processors, which are thousands of times more powerful than any ARM SoCs available now, including the upcoming Cortex-A15. The differences in processing power and architecture between x86 and ARM are too much that Microsoft has to write a separate version (Windows RT) for ARM processors, which will not run any current Windows applications. Hypothetically, even if it is possible to dual boot Windows on the tf700, there is no application to run at all!
Windows & Android
At one time I wanted to keep Garmin maps after I started using Android (phones)
So I checked in to using both.
Only two options I could find both used Windows XP/7 (hardware & software) as the main and Android was launched second.
(Bluestacks and Viewsonic)
All this was before Win8

[Q] Windows RT is compatible with ARM architecture

Steven Sinofsky, responsible for the Windows RT said that this version of Windows is compatible with ARM architeture.
Maybe it's compatible with ARMv6, the same from our phone.
May we'll, someday, see a Windows RT ROM for P500?
It's a dumb question, since I'm not a developer...
But what do you guys think? It's possible or just a dream?
I'm meaning a hibrid ROM, like Paranoid (Tablet UI and Phone UI)
Jajaja i dont know if it.is possible
JB have many lags imagine windows 0.o :surprisemother****er:
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i feel its a long shot
but themed roms are always possible
The first thing that I felt after spending a couple hours of testing Windows 8 @ my notebook is: Wow!! This is so fluid! So smooth...
And my notebook it's a simple AMD Dual Core E-350 @1.6GHz and 2GB RAM.
Windows RT is a more clean version of Windows 8, it will run smooth on any device with, at least, 1 GHz and 512MB RAM.
Maybe our device could run WinRT too, with some lag, but running nice! hahaha
How can you guys even think of WinRT to work on our phones? We aren't able to run even B2G..!!!
Pedrorudi said:
The first thing that I felt after spending a couple hours of testing Windows 8 @ my notebook is: Wow!! This is so fluid! So smooth...
And my notebook it's a simple AMD Dual Core E-350 @1.6GHz and 2GB RAM.
Windows RT is a more clean version of Windows 8, it will run smooth on any device with, at least, 1 GHz and 512MB RAM.
Maybe our device could run WinRT too, with some lag, but running nice! hahaha
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Our device is quite a way off 1ghz, but if it works i'd like to see it
Wickedude said:
Our device is quite a way off 1ghz, but if it works i'd like to see it
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Yeah, but with OC, our phone gets up to 729MHz without frying the CPU.
As I said, maybe it will run Windows RT, a bit laggy, buuut...
Windows RT system is about 6Gs(with basic apps to work) big. It would be a miracle to see a Transformer Prime run RT, let alone this phone.
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AgentCherryColla said:
Windows RT system is about 6Gs(with basic apps to work) big. It would be a miracle to see a Transformer Prime run RT, let alone this phone.
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Sorry, forgot this "little" detail, forget it, we'll never see a port to our phone... =/
But, mods is not discarded. hahaha

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