How would YOU run windows on an android tablet? im getting the asus transformer prime and im wondering how you would get windows on an android tablet in the same way that viewsonic would ! come on devs im sure someone has an idea! post it here and lets figure it out.!
Link ( there might be a newer one out)
http://ap.viewsonic.com/za/products/viewpad/viewpad10/
don't see it happening
ianwardell said:
How would YOU run windows on an android tablet? im getting the asus transformer prime and im wondering how you would get windows on an android tablet in the same way that viewsonic would ! come on devs im sure someone has an idea! post it here and lets figure it out.!
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I wish you luck with this one. I just can't see it happening.
Maybe Ubuntu ported and Wine to run some Windows apps. That I could see as remotely possible.
Neil
Look up the new view sonic tablet. Somehow they do it o.o and iv already got a basic idea of how to get linux onto the tablet but if I could run windows that would just be cool.
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LG are supposed to be releasing a new handset soon with VMWare already on board. You might be able to use a virtual Win 7 mobile, or if/when Win 8 gets ARM support, use Win 8?
The Viewsonic does it by shipping with an Intel processor. Most Android devices have ARM processors, which makes it much more complicated. You would need an emulator like VMWare.
But its doable? Because I think the asus can handle it
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Not really, the problem is that windows in its actual version doesn't run on the ARM-architecture used in all Android-Tablets. If Windows 8 comes with an ARM-Version it could be possible to get it on Android-Tablets. Another Problem is, that Windows is not open-source, which makes it really hard to modify it.
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It would take an entirely new kernel to get it to run on an ARM processor. Everything has to change and I doubt anybody would be willing to figure it out and write an entire kernel.
The Transformer Prime has a Tegra 3 CPU, meaning ARM architecture. You would need an ARM version of Windows to run on it (meaning Win8). Also, correct me if I am wrong, Windows applications need to be compiled to run on ARM as well. Meaning, you can just download anything and expect it to install.
EDIT: The Viewsonic tablet in question has an Intel Atom processor (which is x86), an Atom N455 to be exact. That's why Windows has no problem running on it.
Oh.....but win8 would work? ....I know the ipad has a win emulator
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Will it be possible to put a version of windows on the gtab? I know they are working on linux with a distro of ubuntu, does anyone know if it is possible?
Dont get me wrong i love android but this is a powerful device and id like to squeeze all i can out of it
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Will it be possible to put a version of windows on the gtab? I know they are working on linux with a distro of ubuntu, does anyone know if it is possible?
Dont get me wrong i love android but this is a powerful device and id like to squeeze all i can out of it
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Considering that the Tegra 2 is a RISC CPU and to my knowledge the only Windows version that is written for RISC CPUs is WinCE I'm guess the answer to your question is yes and no. Yes technically an OS made by MS in the Windows "family" (WinCE) could be ported to the gtab but realistically the kind of windows variant that I think you're looking for (XP/Win7) no. And you're right this is a powerful piece of hardware... way more that is necessary for WinCE so on al counts it's doubtful that windows will ever make it onto the gtab.
Actually I believe if someone can rip the proper files from the dual booting 10" viewsonic this might be possible. I would have to look at the internals, but I would assume they are the same. I know it is running win7 starter and I believe Android 1.6. I was actually gonna look at that this weekend. Problem is with the small internal memory might be worth it to invest in a 32gb chip.
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Actually I believe if someone can rip the proper files from the dual booting 10" viewsonic this might be possible. I would have to look at the internals, but I would assume they are the same. I know it is running win7 starter and I believe Android 1.6. I was actually gonna look at that this weekend. Problem is with the small internal memory might be worth it to invest in a 32gb chip.
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Actually there is a reason that it is running android 1.6. 1.6 has a compiled version that runs on x86 architecture.
No dice on win 7 on this puppy sorry
Scratch that. I just looked at the specs and they are not even close other than the screen. Well it was a thought.
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Scratch that. I just looked at the specs and they are not even close other than the screen. Well it was a thought.
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The other tablet is uses Intel Atom CPU, hence why it works, would have been nice if that tablet had Android 2.2....but who wants Win7 when you got android....hahaha
I agree about android over win, but I always like to have the ability to. I have my linux box w/ a tiny Win7 partition. Course every time I log into it. I remember why I stopped using windows
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The VS 10" multi-boot tablet has an Atom (x86) CPU and dual boots Windows 7 and Android 1.6 (IIRC).
The only thing vaguely like Windows that you MIGHT be able to get on the gTab will be some version of wince(and I do -- they're trying to call it Windows Mobile now since wince was so awful, but it sounds like it hasn't helped).
I'd actually like to see how well WinMo 6.5, like my old touch pro had, would run on a g-tab. I really enjoyed that old phone.
Just curious about this, do you think it might be possible to port Windows 8 ARM to our Transformer, Xoom and so on? What would be the system requirements of such a thing?
I love this future questions that nobody know
Just a guess mostly likey yes
I guesses most of the drivers will be exist the development will start fast
But lets wait
Windows 8 comes out when? Early 2013?
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microsoft demod windows on arm using a tegra 2, i donno if it was windows 8 as they didnt show the interface only a desktop environment
removed.
mikeseth said:
Actually, we can still start now.
Many people (incl. myself) already have the leaked build 7989
CPU: 1 GHz or faster
RAM: 1 GB ( for 32-bit) and 2 GB (for 64-bit)
Hard disk: 16 GB (for 32-bit) and 20 GB (for 64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
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1) Is it the arm version?
2) is it a legit version.
Between now and forever...depending on licencing...there would prabobly zero development with windows 8 on xda.
Unless the device speciafically comes with it...or ms allows people to install/buy it into a specific target device, distributing a rom containing windows 8 would be like posting a pirated copy of windows.
So as far windows 8 development on the tf, not gonna happen
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Well at least until can put ubuntu on it. That leaves the door open for other Distros.
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With the leak of build 7989, i'd love to see a port for the transformer. In fact, i bought the transformer exclusively because of win8, as I need one note.
why did you buy this for windows 8? Asus has many almost identical tablets (albeit a bit thicker) that run windows 7 fine. And microsoft said that any computer that could run windows 7 could run windows 8.
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Windows 8 comes out when? Early 2013?
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March 2012 is the latest I heard (Mary Jo Foley post)
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jerrykur said:
March 2012 OS the latest
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Um thats my birthday.
newtonc said:
With the leak of build 7989, i'd love to see a port for the transformer. In fact, i bought the transformer exclusively because of win8, as I need one note.
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the leak is x64, not arm.
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A msft video which shows a prototype tablet powered by a kal-el quad-core arm soc running windows 8, was really stunning. That should be it.
Sounds like a neat project. There's got to be a significant amount of driver porting work to do though.
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why did you buy this for windows 8? Asus has many almost identical tablets (albeit a bit thicker) that run windows 7 fine. And microsoft said that any computer that could run windows 7 could run windows 8.
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the only other asus tablet runs at $1000+, and has poor battery life. win 8 with arm support will be the way to go.
6 months from now the transformer will look like a piece of crap compared to what will be out. If you want windows 8 the best option would be to buy a new tablet that has it on there. The best point was made on the previous page which stated porting windows will be considered piracy and therefore banned from the forum. IF Microsoft releases windows 8 ARM as an installer (usb,cd,flash chips, who knows...) then there could be guides on here but NO ROMS as Windows is not FOSS. Then there's the price to consider... Don't get me wrong I would love Windows 8 on my TF but be realistic, it's not gonna happen.
it wouldn't be piracy if you were able to provide a legitimate proof of purchase.windows requiresaproduct key so if you went to the store and bought the disk then if someone found a way to modify the install process to run on transformer you could enter your product key and it would be perfectly legit. Allot of hard work but legal nonetheless
I am 100% there will be no Windows 8 development for Asus transformer at least on xda, and the other thing I am pretty sure about that Asus TF won't be able to run it, seriosly you think that Microsoft will make windows 8 so optimized that it work on "smartphone" processor Tegra 2? Nothing against windows, love it, but I think that tegra 2 processors are not powefull enough to run desktop OS. If there will be anykind of port of windows 8 on TF I would install it right away, but what can you do on it having only 1gig of ram? Check email on glitchy IE(I personaly hate it)? And by the time Windows 8 is going to be released, there will be new TF2. So insted of hoping for port of windows 8 on TF, better start saving money for TF2 or Windows 8 tablet which would give full new windows experience insted of ported one!
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Who cares about windows 8, can we boot windows 7 on our TF? as much as I love android 3 it can't be compared to windows.. could we boot it? the TF as duel core cpu while same 10' mini laptops as less powerfull single core..
Okay so I got excited that Asus was hinting at a dual booted tablet with windows 8 and maybe android ICS or Jelly Bean when it comes out however when they have revealed their product today it turns out it is a desktop pc which leads me to their windows 8 transformer tablets. Does anyone know if it will be possible to root these devices and dual boot with android or am I asking too much there?
Im not familiar with those tablets. Do they use x86 architecture or ARM?
ICS is ported to x86 and it is developed all the time. Check out this site: http://www.android-x86.org/
Thanks for your help, they are building windows on both arm and x86 devices however arm is just a metro version and x86 is a full blown Intel processor with desktop capabilities. I'm going to look at the new transformer books and when they come out I will dual boot, these will be amazing products.
its more than likely that its possible but I don't think anyone has seen anything even close to a product out side of the couple of videos posted recently.
ARM is the tricky one, x86 should be fine but ARM we just don't know right now.
Asus Transformer AiO to Dual-Boot Android and Windows 8
http://goo.gl/2HwVt
This article claims it will be x86
And there is still the BlueStacks option, which lets you run android apps on win/x86.
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hello guys. today I think that maybe we can install Windows on Transformer but the space (16gb) maybe may stop us. I don't know if this guide works (developers, give me your opinion).
So, we install Ubuntu on TF101, then we install Windows in a second partition through this guide (it is translated in english, so there are translation error):
http://translate.google.it/translat....ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=482754&act=url
then through ubuntu boot we can use windows.
what do you think?? through windows 7 we can install windows 8
I do not take any responsibility if someone wants to try
sorry for my english if there are errors
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
What he means, and this is unfortunate, that the physical processor of the TF101 doesn't support any form of windows. When you buy a processor there's generally 3 types you can get, (x86, which is 32-bit os and general last 10-11 years) (x64, which is 64-bit os and generally new) and (ARM, which is a low-power Mobile processor.) The tf101 has an ARM, and windows os's were built for desktops and laptops running x86 and x64 processors, which are incompatible.
Hope I've shed a little light on why this just won't work.
whitekidney, if MSOFT decides to release a generic ARM version of win8, it will run on the TF, I swear it :!!!! lol
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But with grub (ubuntu boot) we can make dual bott Ubuntu-Windows on PC, so it will be on TF101 if you saw the link But if it don't work... :/
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No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
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No.
As I said. Windows 7 and below doesn't run on ARM processors.
It will _never_ work because of the hardware that is in the TF101.
Windows 8 ARM won't work either because it requires safe boot, and there's a 99% chance that it won't support our hardware.
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With Windows 8 RT??? If with it works, I can wait and try with it.
but, before you said this, did you try it??if you don't try, you don't know anything
Win 8 RT for ARM hasn't been released. Go ahead and brick your transformer trying to install it if you like :]
Seriously, it won't work until ARM has been implemented, give it time.
Windows 8 will be running on an Asus tablet at some point in the near future. However, I doubt it will ever run on our current Transformer.
Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
if you want windows 8 on an asus transformer wait for the asus "transformer Book"
From what I read in the link I'm providing below, Windows 8 RT will only be available pre-installed on PCs or tablets. To get it on our current TF101 or TF201 doesn't sound to be possible without someone breaking some rules somewhere.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
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No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
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Wait, what are you talking about? Windows 8 will indeed work on ARM. The version is called Windows 8 RT
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he was talking about installing xp or a previous version in the comment and yes windows will run on arm but not on the transformer as windows RT is installed by the OEM and can not be changed or installed on any other platform
Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide.
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laslow said:
Windows 8 RT (the ARM release of Windows 8) will only support systems that use (U)EFI. The TF101 doesn't. There is no way to get it. Therefore, even though the TF101 is an ARM device, and a version of Windows will support ARM, it will still not work as this device does not meet the minimum requirements. No amount of tweaking will get around that - it is an engineered limitation at a low level of the OS.
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Much like OSX ( Apples OS ) requires Efi too right..... yeah ok. Typing this from my home built i7 rig ( with a regular bios ) running 10.7
My point you ask? Simple ...... efi can be emulated at the lowest level possible prior to the OS itself running. I'm betting one of our awesome devs gets things working soon enough.
Also to Dragon_79 -
"Windows RT has requirements the TF101 doesn't meet. Even if someone found a way to NVFlash it to the TF101, WindowsRT needs a minimum GPU that the Nvidia chip in the TF doesn't provide."
The tegra2 has more horsepower than the integrated Intel HD graphics. I seriously doubt that the GPU isn't powerful enough.
I'm eagerly waiting
Windows 8 on Asus Transformer tf101
whitekidney said:
No. This won't work. Windows doesn't run on ARM, and Windows 8 will never run on the TF101.
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the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
vetman said:
the new Win 8 released last night is compatible to ARM processors and transformers have ARM processor!:fingers-crossed:
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NO. Windows RT uses a secure boot it will never run on the transformer
asus and acer devices
asus do plan on releasing a new transformer named the vivo9(I may be in coorrect about the name), and acer are planing on releasing a device with the same idea, both devices will run windows rt and possibly windows 8, but if the microsoft surface is anything to go by, a windows rt tablet is not that great
I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
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I'm also interested in this. I need a tab I can run exe:s on.
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If you want to run your usual *.exe, you need a machine with the hardware architecture it was compiled for.
So if you want to run a program which was compiled for x86, you need a x86 tablet.
What you could do is emulating x86 hardware on the arm (there are solutions for that), but it would be awfully slow. You can use it for proof-of-concepts, but not much more.
Is anyone working on dual booting ubuntu and android on the Infinity?
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This needs to happen. I cant help but feel that ubuntu would make this tablet much more usable and functional than ICS. Just my opinion.
Window 7 and or XP
quicknik said:
Is anyone working on dual booting ubuntu and android on the Infinity?
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I got my tf700 and I want to dual Boot it - put windows 7 and/or XP on it.
Is there any advice out there - before I get into the process?
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I got my tf700 and I want to dual Boot it - put windows 7 and/or XP on it.
Is there any advice out there - before I get into the process?
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Dude, I hope you are joking. Any Windows prior to Windows 8 were designed specifically for x86-x64 processors, which are thousands of times more powerful than any ARM SoCs available now, including the upcoming Cortex-A15. The differences in processing power and architecture between x86 and ARM are too much that Microsoft has to write a separate version (Windows RT) for ARM processors, which will not run any current Windows applications. Hypothetically, even if it is possible to dual boot Windows on the tf700, there is no application to run at all!
Windows & Android
At one time I wanted to keep Garmin maps after I started using Android (phones)
So I checked in to using both.
Only two options I could find both used Windows XP/7 (hardware & software) as the main and Android was launched second.
(Bluestacks and Viewsonic)
All this was before Win8