Hi there,
I just received my new Mi MIX 2S (actually, I got it 360 hours ago, if you know what I mean...) and I'm very satisfied with this toy
I'm on the last MIUI 10 Global Beta (8.7.5) since this afternoon, with SuperSU v2.82-SR5 and of course, with an unlocked bootloader.
However, I noticed a "strange" glitch/issue when I quick touching/typing.
It's seems that the screen not considering the different touch but acts like it does "two in one" touch.
I made a small video to illustrate the issue :
https://youtu.be/NdW8Zeo1MLQ
Does anyone has this too ?
Do you think it's an hardware or a software issue (like calibrate or touch-delay update) ?
Thanks
lafritte57 said:
Hi there,
I just received my new Mi MIX 2S (actually, I got it 360 hours ago, if you know what I mean...) and I'm very satisfied with this toy
I'm on the last MIUI 10 Global Beta (8.7.5) since this afternoon, with SuperSU v2.82-SR5 and of course, with an unlocked bootloader.
However, I noticed a "strange" glitch/issue when I quick touching/typing.
It's seems that the screen not considering the different touch but acts like it does "two in one" touch.
I made a small video to illustrate the issue :
https://youtu.be/NdW8Zeo1MLQ
Does anyone has this too ?
Do you think it's an hardware or a software issue (like calibrate or touch-delay update) ?
Thanks
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Hardware issue, I have the same issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-2s/help/miui-im-swiping-t3803874
Damn... I bought mine on Joybuy, I'll try to deal with them about the warranty because I guess I can't contact Xiaomi directly.
The XDA Gesture workaround seems to be a good temporary way but, I really don't want to stay on a defective device...
I already did this with my Oneplus One (as a early buyer, I got a similar issue) and it was worst with time, I regret to had never return them
lafritte57 said:
Damn... I bought mine on Joybuy, I'll try to deal with them about the warranty because I guess I can't contact Xiaomi directly.
The XDA Gesture workaround seems to be a good temporary way but, I really don't want to stay on a defective device...
I already did this with my Oneplus One (as a early buyer, I got a similar issue) and it was worst with time, I regret to had never return them
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Bought mine on Aliexpress, no way I'll get a warranty without me paying $30 of shipping and lose a month without the phone.
I tried the XDA gesture thing, but you can't really get the same gestures as on MIUI (alsway have to make the gestures from the bottom of the phone it seems). So for now I'm just using it with this "bug", with the keyboard closing from time to time when I type.
Probably gonna get a Mi Max 3 to replace it anyway sooner or later.
I just made the thest you did with a drawing app and I got the same results when I multi touched the screen very quickly. I hadn't noticed this earlier because it didn't cause any problem for my daily use. Specifically, in which context did you notice that issue?
hayatesan said:
Bought mine on Aliexpress, no way I'll get a warranty without me paying $30 of shipping and lose a month without the phone.
I tried the XDA gesture thing, but you can't really get the same gestures as on MIUI (alsway have to make the gestures from the bottom of the phone it seems). So for now I'm just using it with this "bug", with the keyboard closing from time to time when I type.
Probably gonna get a Mi Max 3 to replace it anyway sooner or later.
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I guess JoyBuy has the same warranty policy, which means cost return and more than a month without phone...
I haven't tried the XDA Gesture workaround yet, but I'm not too happy about losing the MIUI gesture
Hope that's JoyBuy will be understanding...
rodaven said:
I just made the thest you did with a drawing app and I got the same results when I multi touched the screen very quickly. I hadn't noticed this earlier because it didn't cause any problem for my daily use. Specifically, in which context did you notice that issue?
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Thanks for your test and your answer.
In my case, it's very annoying when I (fast) typing a message, it causes a "fake" swipe and recude the keyboard or go back to home screen. I'll try to make a better screencast to show you in-use case.
lafritte57 said:
I guess JoyBuy has the same warranty policy, which means cost return and more than a month without phone...
I haven't tried the XDA Gesture workaround yet, but I'm not too happy about losing the MIUI gesture
Hope that's JoyBuy will be understanding...
Thanks for your test and your answer.
In my case, it's very annoying when I (fast) typing a message, it causes a "fake" swipe and recude the keyboard or go back to home screen. I'll try to make a better screencast to show you in-use case.
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Fine, I'll tell you my experience. I use to had the same problem, it's only noticeable using the keyboard and specially when you tap the letters located near the edge of the screen, specially like the Q and P. I'm almost completely sure that the problem is related to gestures, because the system thinks you're swiping, in my case I got some lag too in addition to the false back gesture. What I did to fix this is use the keyboard (Google keyboard) in one hand mode (long press the "," and this option will pop up next to the emoticon) and moving it to the center and the problem is gone. It's actually more comfortable this way because the space bar moves up and it's more accessible. You can play then with the keyboard size if you think it's too small. There are two others threads talking about the same problem and I recommended this solution in both, and it seems to work for others too. Try it and tell us.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76789600&postcount=13
I have this issue too, are you sure it's a hardware problem and it does not affect everybody?
Thank you.
stark0 said:
I have this issue too, are you sure it's a hardware problem and it does not affect everybody?
Thank you.
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Hi,
Actually, I think it's more an OS issue than an hardware one.
After some tries and research, I noticed that these "screen glitches" are bad interpretations of fast multitouching, translate into swipe/gesture.
These swipe/gesture come with the gesture navigation mode, included in full-screen desplay (and which allow to hide the bottom navigation bar).
If you re-enable the "classic" display, with the bottom bar, the issue doesn't seem to exist. So, I guess for MIUI, some fast-typing/touching are interpreted as gestures (swipe down-to-up = home, left-to-right = previous...)
In the same registry, I noticed that, if you use a scrollable widget (Google Agenda in planning display) and if you scroll down on it (in order to see the bottom lines for example), MIUI interpret it as a down-to-up gesture (and so, go back to home, or search).
So, I really hope that in a future update, the sensibility of these gestures could be decreased/improved...
For now, you could :
Enable the one-hand mode ok Google Keyboard as proposed by @rodaven (but personnaly, I dislike the fact to have a small keyboard with a lot of lost space around it...)
Disable the full sceen display mode (and so, say goodbye to the gestures feature)
Stay on full screen mode and gestures, get upset when you write a message and pray for un update
lafritte57 said:
Hi,
Actually, I think it's more an OS issue than an hardware one.
After some tries and research, I noticed that these "screen glitches" are bad interpretations of fast multitouching, translate into swipe/gesture.
These swipe/gesture come with the gesture navigation mode, included in full-screen desplay (and which allow to hide the bottom navigation bar).
If you re-enable the "classic" display, with the bottom bar, the issue doesn't seem to exist. So, I guess for MIUI, some fast-typing/touching are interpreted as gestures (swipe down-to-up = home, left-to-right = previous...)
In the same registry, I noticed that, if you use a scrollable widget (Google Agenda in planning display) and if you scroll down on it (in order to see the bottom lines for example), MIUI interpret it as a down-to-up gesture (and so, go back to home, or search).
So, I really hope that in a future update, the sensibility of these gestures could be decreased/improved...
For now, you could :
Enable the one-hand mode ok Google Keyboard as proposed by @rodaven (but personnaly, I dislike the fact to have a small keyboard with a lot of lost space around it...)
Disable the full sceen display mode (and so, say goodbye to the gestures feature)
Stay on full screen mode and gestures, get upset when you write a message and pray for un update
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Thank you so much!
I have the gestures disabled because of that but it still happens in the keyboard (I don't like the one-hand mode). So, we need to wait hoping it'll be solved.
stark0 said:
Thank you so much!
I have the gestures disabled because of that but it still happens in the keyboard (I don't like the one-hand mode). So, we need to wait hoping it'll be solved.
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I just found that this issue was submit on MIUI website in January : http://en.miui.com/thread-1539964-1-1.html
lafritte57 said:
I just found that this issue was submit on MIUI website in January : http://en.miui.com/thread-1539964-1-1.html
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But that's different from the multitouch issue that is in the main post (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdW8Zeo1MLQ&feature=youtu.be), isn't it?
stark0 said:
But that's different from the multitouch issue that is in the main post (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdW8Zeo1MLQ&feature=youtu.be), isn't it?
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In my opinion, it's the same issue.
Due to the full screen/gesture feature, fast multitouches are interpreted as a gesture.
On my video, you could see it.
On the issue from MIUI website, users asked that swipe/gesture are disable over keyboard when it's on-screen.
I think it should be a solution to combine gesture navigation and fast multitouch/type.
Personnaly, I disable full screen/gesture navigation (for now, sadly) and the issue desappear, that's why I'm pretty sure it's a software issue (which concern very model with this feature).
I changed my screen
Actually i cracked my screen and replaced new lcd from aliexpress claimed original. I checked it is JDI. But the touch issues still persist. I think its xiaomi driver.. or i dont know.. i really regret having this phone
lafritte57 said:
In my opinion, it's the same issue.
Due to the full screen/gesture feature, fast multitouches are interpreted as a gesture.
On my video, you could see it.
On the issue from MIUI website, users asked that swipe/gesture are disable over keyboard when it's on-screen.
I think it should be a solution to combine gesture navigation and fast multitouch/type.
Personnaly, I disable full screen/gesture navigation (for now, sadly) and the issue desappear, that's why I'm pretty sure it's a software issue (which concern very model with this feature).
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I tested more, disabling fulls creen gestures and the problem persist. There is a video with the keyboard trying to type "alguna", sometimes it makes a gesture "left to right":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8EgUfaN5C0
It's very disapointing, I had touch screen problems with my oneplus one and now with the mix 2s.
I've noticed the touchscreen is a little bit slow/lazy when I activate navigation gestures.
The lazy response area is only on the bottom-left of the display, and it concerns only the "A" letter of my qwerty keyboard (a very small area).
This lazy response of the touchscreen is on all other apps, not only in the keyboard, and it concerns only that small area.
If I use navigation buttons, the problem disappear.
I don't know if this issue was present also in previous OS version because I've tried using navigation gestures today
I've the Nex S 8/256GB, PD1805_A_1.17.10
Anyone noticed this?
Exactly the same here...
Sorry for this (maybe too) late answer: Have exactly the same issue. I'm used to write really fast on my phone, but since having the Vivo Nex, I'm slowed down extreamly because of this. Also for me just the "A" letter is the problem. Doesn't matter which keyboard or size (tried several), it's always laggy...
I really hoped this would be a thing of the past after the newest "Funtouch-update" from some days ago, as they've been writing about "better touchscreen accuracy" in the changelog... But nobchanges at all concerning this point...
Did anyone already found a solution against this, without having to turn on those ugly navigation buttons on the bottom of the screen? I really like the three swiping gestures.
Same on my side
Seems as my previous post has been deleted / went lost...
I've exactly the same problem here with the "A" key of the keyboard being really slow on my Vivo Nex S (256GB, global version). Hoped this problem would fade away after the newest "Funtouch" update 3 days ago, because they wanted to have solved exactly this problem, what Vivo told us in the changelog...
But all kept the same. Tried already three different keyboards with different settings, no success. Does someone has a solution for this?
But I really DON'T like having the navigation buttons visible, so this is no option for me. I definitely want to use the original slide actions for the three buttons below the screen...
To be honest: I'm using the Nova Launcher over the Funtouch System (the Funtouch launcher is absolutely useless). Could this have an influence?
This happends to me too.It seems there s area down to the bottom of screen is not sensitive enough.
I have vivo 1805 which is Taiwan version, not sure if this model same as the global version. And I also try to flash the chinese version ROM but failed cause of the signature difference. The update progress in Taiwan is not as fast as chinese. Hope VIVO in Taiwan could release the fix soon.
guagin said:
This happends to me too.It seems there s area down to the bottom of screen is not sensitive enough.
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Well, not sure if this is the same issue on my device, as the sensitivity seems to be ok on mine, but I have to push the "a" button much longer (not stronger) than all others. So just a laggy key... And REALLY annoying!
But "good" to hear that others seem to have comparable problems. If there just finally would be a fix for this on the Vivo phones...?
Hey guys. I have been facing the same issue and started experimenting with navigation replacements. So as you guys realize, sensitivity is just fine when using the nav buttons but there are a lot of keyboard mistypes when using Vivo's own navigation gestures.
Therefore, after expermintation, I can confirm that the app called "Fluid Navigation" is an awesome replacement for the navigtion gestures. XDA Navigation gestures is slightly incompatible with the Nex. But Fluid Navigation works perfect.
So all you need to do is follow these steps
1, Switch to Nav buttons
2, Install the app
3, Grant accessibility permission
4, Grant Write Secure Settings through ADB. The app gives instructions for this
5, Hide the nav bar through the app
6, Customize the gestures in the app. It even allows quick settings swipe up.
Hope this helps. Enjoy guys. You will definitely feel the difference
manu_up said:
Hey guys. I have been facing the same issue and started experimenting with navigation replacements. So as you guys realize, sensitivity is just fine when using the nav buttons but there are a lot of keyboard mistypes when using Vivo's own navigation gestures.
Therefore, after expermintation, I can confirm that the app called "Fluid Navigation" is an awesome replacement for the navigtion gestures. XDA Navigation gestures is slightly incompatible with the Nex. But Fluid Navigation works perfect.
So all you need to do is follow these steps
1, Switch to Nav buttons
2, Install the app
3, Grant accessibility permission
4, Grant Write Secure Settings through ADB. The app gives instructions for this
5, Hide the nav bar through the app
6, Customize the gestures in the app. It even allows quick settings swipe up.
Hope this helps. Enjoy guys. You will definitely feel the difference
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Thank you for this awesome information, now i have no lag anymore and i can write fast!
Happy to have helped
My 1st smartphone was a Palm Pre Plus (webOS), I got an Android next but Went back to WebOS with an HP Veer. ... Really liked how they implemented gestures properly a DECADE before anyone else. Was using Moto phones for nearly 8 years, really loved the Active Display & Moto Actions (camera flip & chop chop flashlight).
With my Moto Z2 Force dying and Moto basically making garbage or something ridiculously overpriced *cough*RAZR*cough* ... had to look elsewhere.
Got a Pixel 5 a few days ago. I hadn't experienced Android 9 or 10, so 11 is a bit step up from Oreo.
Always on display is pretty cool, not as good as Active Display, but better than the old Ambient Display.
Double tap power button to launch camera will work, although not as cool as flipping (I know 3rd party apps exist to mimic gestures, but I'm trying to keep phone as clean as possible for endurance)
Fluid Navigation Gestures can mimic proper Navigation - I'm sorry but the built in Pixel Navigation needs a lot of work. The Swipe up and hold for recent apps is very frustrating to use.
(Here is a solution to removing the 3 button Nav bar on Android 11 with terminal: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/irs1eb/hiding_the_3_dot_navigation_bar_on_android_11_root/)
(For reference, I disabled the left swipe bar. Kept the right swipe as a back button [the one idea I like of Google's], Right Swipe bottom edge -> Recent apps; Left Swipe bottom edge -> Back; Swipe up bottom edge -> Home [Just as it was on WebOS and Moto One Touch Nav]
Various Apps allow for "chop chop" for flashlight. Still testing which one is the best solution.
And Many thanks to @Tulsadiver For his work on the ancient 3Minit app to work with Pixel 5 /4a etc. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/themes/3minit-battery-3minit-clock-t4177835 He also has a flashable Magisk module to remove Nav bar https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/themes/clock-mods-remove-navbar-mod-t4177829
With those mods, Battery can be changed to similar to Gravitybox Ring battery style and clock can be moved to center or right (the left clock is very annoying).
Just sharing a few things I've come across many different places. Some of this really just writing here for myself for memory and sharing if it'll be helpful for anyone else.
Cheers!
I bought a cheap Moto G7 Power and realized how much I deeply missed some of Moto's little tweaks. Chop and twist are big ones that I miss constantly. Still trying to get an app that implements it half as well. I'd really, really love if we could get a ring battery indicator around the hole punch to reclaim lost space and move the clock. Another killer feature that the Moto had me convinced was just another part of Android was scrolling screenshots. Deeply disappointed when I went to use it on the Pixel with a newer OS and it was missing.
Why are you finding the swipe up hard to use?
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I bought a cheap Moto G7 Power and realized how much I deeply missed some of Moto's little tweaks. Chop and twist are big ones that I miss constantly. Still trying to get an app that implements it half as well. I'd really, really love if we could get a ring battery indicator around the hole punch to reclaim lost space and move the clock. Another killer feature that the Moto had me convinced was just another part of Android was scrolling screenshots. Deeply disappointed when I went to use it on the Pixel with a newer OS and it was missing.
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Yeah I hear ya. The Active Display / Moto Display was great too. At least on the Moto X / X2, after that it wasnt as good but still better than what any other manufacturer has developed.
I've seen the app "energy ring" which does this, but the dev hasn't added support for Pixel 5 yet (it's been added for Pixel 4a, so I'm hoping support will come soon).
With Magisk and tweaks by Tulsadiver, the clock can be moved to the right, it looks much better.
Davey Dual Sim said:
Why are you finding the swipe up hard to use?
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The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
roweboat56 said:
The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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Interesting, I'm finding it one movement , move up from bottom, then the hold is less than s second
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roweboat56 said:
The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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If you swipe up from the bottom about ½cm you don't need to do the hold action. It automatically loads the recent apps screen for me. Any higher and it'll take you back to the home screen without holding.
I just use Button Mapper to turn my volume button into a flashlight toggle when the screen is off. Much faster and works more often than the chop gesture. You can customize other stuff too wtih it. A nice all-in-one app.