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Hey guys! So, I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S7 (G930FD) from Amazon almost 2 years ago. I ordered what I thought was the International EU version, but they sent me instead it seems the Asia version. I say that because the keyboard switches between the qwerty keyboard and a chinese keyboard. Also because it looks like the phone is still available on Amazon and the model G930FD is now marked as the Asian version, likely Hong Kong. It's worked great, and I've really liked it. A while back, Samsung Pay was finally pushed to it, but it was all in chinese, and very difficult to use. I tried to update it with a newer version the other day and I think I screwed it up. It keeps trying to update it and failing, so now I can't use it anymore. So, I figure maybe this is an opportunity to try something new? So, I've been trying to read as much as I can from this site and others to see how it works, and I think I understand, I just want to make sure...
It sounds like the model G930FD and G930F are mostly interchangeable when it comes to OS's. It also sounds like there are OS's (aka ROM's I think?) that are native to different geographic areas, and each has it's own software and features etc. I Don't know that a US ROM would work on this model as it's an exynos, and the US models are not, so what if I chose a UK ROM to replace the Asian version with? Will that work? Also, if I put on an official ROM, does it still allow the OTA updates to occur for that country? I'd like to keep that happening if possible. Makes it a lot easier to keep things up to date... I have no interest in rooting, nor in using some hacked ROM, or anything like that. Just keep it simple.
So is that possible to do? I've found a couple of instructions here and there for how to do the actual flashing, using an app called Odin, and I've downloaded a ROM from the UK, the most recent one I can find from last month. I assume this will probably erase everything on my phone and I'll have to restore from a backup and re-install all my apps, etc?
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Hey!
I have currently a Vivo NEX on order from AliExpress.
I wonder how fast (if at all) there will be a way to root the device, and most importantly: install Google Play and custom launchers on it.
A custom ROM; something stock like would also be exciting to see soon.
Another question that I have is: will I be able to use the in-display-fingerprintsensor when I install a custom launcher?
I guess that's a very noob question but I really have not much experience with that because this will be my fist phone with a fingerprintsensor at all.
Greeting from Austria!!
LOL Meister said:
Hey!
I have currently a Vivo NEX on order from AliExpress.
I wonder how fast (if at all) there will be a way to root the device, and most importantly: install Google Play and custom launchers on it.
A custom ROM; something stock like would also be exciting to see soon.
Another question that I have is: will I be able to use the in-display-fingerprintsensor when I install a custom launcher?
I guess that's a very noob question but I really have not much experience with that because this will be my fist phone with a fingerprintsensor at all.
Greeting from Austria!!
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Root and custom roms will be available as soon as Vivo release source code and blobs, and yes you can use the fingerprint sensor on custom launchers, even if it doesn't have play store you can still install launchers and apps from an apk.
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Root and custom roms will be available as soon as Vivo release source code and blobs, and yes you can use the fingerprint sensor on custom launchers, even if it doesn't have play store you can still install launchers and apps from an apk.
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Thats great news actually. I have successfully rooted and installed a custom ROM on my galaxy S5. But I am still quite new to the topic and therefore I want to ask: if some videos or websites claim that they have a way to root *any* android device: can that be true from a technical standpoint or is such a thing always scam?
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Thats great news actually. I have successfully rooted and installed a custom ROM on my galaxy S5. But I am still quite new to the topic and therefore I want to ask: if some videos or websites claim that they have a way to root *any* android device: can that be true from a technical standpoint or is such a thing always scam?
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It is definitely a scam, there's no way of rooting *any* phone, it's true that most phones become rootable sooner or later, but that depends on the manufacturer and those who modify the device. The thing is that technically any android phone can be rooted, but that can only be done if one first has access to a bootloader which they can send commands to, such as flashing a recovery. Apps or sites that say they can root any phone is a very deceptive way of tricking inexperienced users, based on somewhat facts.
The process of rooting a phone goes something like this:
1. Manufacturer releases software which allows a pc to communicate with the phone, therefore allowing for the pc to send commands such as flashing a recovery, sideloading a custom rom, restoring stock firmware, etc.
2. At that point, the user has complete access to their phone, just as the manufacturer would, so they can flash a recovery, through which they could flash supersu or magisk in order to root their phone, or a custom rom.
Now the thing about apps that can supposedly root a phone through the os, without it having root, is that some of them are legit, but they work in many different ways, those ways vary from each device. Apps such as kingroot (roots the phone without the need of a pc) is that they normally look for system apps which they can exploit and use as a backdoor to gain root access for the device, such apps can indeed root multiple devices, but no app can root literally any phone. This is because, if for example there was a phone that was released 15th june, 2018, and would have extremely good security, no apps that could be used as a backdoor, the app simply couldn't exploit that device. This is exactly why very new phones (such as the vivo nex) have no custom roms or root, because they're so new that no exploits have been found, and the manufacturer hasn't released software for users to root, nor have they released source code for developers to start building custom roms for them.
Sorry for the long paragraphs, hope I helped.
Moral of the story: don't trust weird apps saying they can root any device.
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It is definitely a scam, there's no way of rooting *any* phone, it's true that most phones become rootable sooner or later, but that depends on the manufacturer and those who modify the device. The thing is that technically any android phone can be rooted, but that can only be done if one first has access to a bootloader which they can send commands to, such as flashing a recovery. Apps or sites that say they can root any phone is a very deceptive way of tricking inexperienced users, based on somewhat facts.
The process of rooting a phone goes something like this:
1. Manufacturer releases software which allows a pc to communicate with the phone, therefore allowing for the pc to send commands such as flashing a recovery, sideloading a custom rom, restoring stock firmware, etc.
2. At that point, the user has complete access to their phone, just as the manufacturer would, so they can flash a recovery, through which they could flash supersu or magisk in order to root their phone, or a custom rom.
Now the thing about apps that can supposedly root a phone through the os, without it having root, is that some of them are legit, but they work in many different ways, those ways vary from each device. Apps such as kingroot (roots the phone without the need of a pc) is that they normally look for system apps which they can exploit and use as a backdoor to gain root access for the device, such apps can indeed root multiple devices, but no app can root literally any phone. This is because, if for example there was a phone that was released 15th june, 2018, and would have extremely good security, no apps that could be used as a backdoor, the app simply couldn't exploit that device. This is exactly why very new phones (such as the vivo nex) have no custom roms or root, because they're so new that no exploits have been found, and the manufacturer hasn't released software for users to root, nor have they released source code for developers to start building custom roms for them.
Sorry for the long paragraphs, hope I helped.
Moral of the story: don't trust weird apps saying they can root any device.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed explanations!
That with the bootloader makes a lot of sense to me as I work a lot with microcontrollers especially; AVRs and PICs. Some of them have a dedicated part of the FLASH where you can keep code around that runs at system startup. A bootloader. That per example lets the AVRs flashed with an Arduino Bootloader communicate with the PC without the need for a programming device!
So I won't load any itchy software on my new device haha.
An other question I have is:
Are there any disadvantages of having a Chinese ROM other than having to install all Google services manually?
LOL Meister said:
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanations!
That with the bootloader makes a lot of sense to me as I work a lot with microcontrollers especially; AVRs and PICs. Some of them have a dedicated part of the FLASH where you can keep code around that runs at system startup. A bootloader. That per example lets the AVRs flashed with an Arduino Bootloader communicate with the PC without the need for a programming device!
So I won't load any itchy software on my new device haha.
An other question I have is:
Are there any disadvantages of having a Chinese ROM other than having to install all Google services manually?
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Well most of the time stock android is always faster and more stable, be it touchwiz, miui, flyme. Touchwiz for example uses very high resolution icons for the ui, which take up more ram (and make the rom size much bigger, therefore sacrificing internal memory) making the phone more sluggish. Basically roms that aren't stock always have some element to them which is likely to make them slower, or have more bugs, possibly.
Because how can you have a better android rom than pure android? Building upon it is always a good thing, but changing it completely usually results in a not so good experience. These sort of things certainly don't apply to what oneplus do with oxygen os and whatever the stock rom is for motorola phones.
As much I fall in love with this phone but VIVO is totally developer unfriendly.
Due to unavailability of kernel sources third party developers couldn't build any custom aftermarket ROM's.
It’s the opposite from what OnePlus offer.
I will wait 6-9 months we will see many other OEM building same design and feature 3d fingerprint reader under the screen and most important developer friendly.
Even Samsung device it’s very very easy rooting and installing twrp and has plenty of development support with custom rom,tweaks and mod.
This Funtouch OS out of the box Vivo phones is totally not acceptable and DOA to me.
It’s a shame such wonderful device with really bad and closed software.
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As much I fall in love with this phone but VIVO is totally developer unfriendly.
Due to unavailability of kernel sources third party developers couldn't build any custom aftermarket ROM's.
It’s the opposite from what OnePlus offer.
It’s a shame such wonderful device with really bad and closed software.
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Well dammit then. I came here to check about this, potential availabilty of any custom roms (linegae / RR)
I'm gonna check about others vivo. Thanks for warning
I think I'm sort of hijacking the thread but it's on topic so should be ok ... I hope.
I've never bought a Chinese phone, but this year I will be getting my first Chinese Android device (Vivo or not).
I've rooted phones in the past so not worried about it but is it required to get Google Play Store and framework on the device? Basically I'm asking how does one make this Chinese phone into a Westernized one.
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I think I'm sort of hijacking the thread but it's on topic so should be ok ... I hope.
I've never bought a Chinese phone, but this year I will be getting my first Chinese Android device (Vivo or not).
I've rooted phones in the past so not worried about it but is it required to get Google Play Store and framework on the device? Basically I'm asking how does one make this Chinese phone into a Westernized one.
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Basically you cann install the playstore through the gmail hack. You install gmail via the included chinese store app. Then it will automatically load playstore on the device.
If you pick your seller with care they will have a semi western rom on the phone. I (I posted the link to the seller in the where to buy thread) ordered my vivo nex from a seller who does that. They will have english language, playsore gmail, maps youtube etc preinstalled.
Despite the not open software of the nex just because its sheer popularity there will be custom roms and hacks. You can bet on that! Just not as many of corse.
so not open software is final ?
It's one of many deciding factor for me.
ayamgoreng said:
so not open software is final ?
It's one of many deciding factor for me.
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I guess noone can say for 100% sure because the phone will start selling just tomorrow. But people with vivo expreince have claimed that the software on vivo phones is generally not very developer friendly.
Even if there won't be custom ROMs I can still have a custom launcher on it.
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so not open software is final ?
It's one of many deciding factor for me.
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Our only hope is for wider spread selling across globe and not only Asia that maximaze possibilities.
As more and more users across globe getting know Vivo then its more possible.
Don't forget Vivo is major sponcored of World Cup 2018 that's major worldwide athletic event and think Vivo has ambition to sell to western world some time(not to far hope)
LOL Meister said:
Basically you cann install the playstore through the gmail hack. You install gmail via the included chinese store app. Then it will automatically load playstore on the device.
If you pick your seller with care they will have a semi western rom on the phone. I (I posted the link to the seller in the where to buy thread) ordered my vivo nex from a seller who does that. They will have english language, playsore gmail, maps youtube etc preinstalled.
Despite the not open software of the nex just because its sheer popularity there will be custom roms and hacks. You can bet on that! Just not as many of corse.
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Thank you.
So what's the things we are missing using a semi westernised ROM over a full western ROM?
How are sellers able to get custom ROMs on the phone so early? (Or are they not custom ROMs?).
01alim said:
Thank you.
So what's the things we are missing using a semi westernised ROM over a full western ROM?
How are sellers able to get custom ROMs on the phone so early? (Or are they not custom ROMs?).
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I think they might have some contracts with Vivo...
Even more proof of that if you look on AliExpress they charge way premium for the devices. I paid 800€ on the 8G 128G version!
I think that there are no disadvantages besides anything regarding their AI tech which will only understand Chinese I think.
Once I am not planning to use that, that's no problem. People claim that the funtouch OS is somewhat unstable but I will test that for myself. The seller I ordered from claims that I will be able to receive over the air updates so they will surely patch things over time.
Remember that if you do not like their OS you can still install a launcher from playstore.
But if any of that holds true, I will see when my phone arrives. The seller claims that they will ship it out over the next 7 days per DHL.
I will update here on my experience, installing launchers, if playstore is there or not etc.
LOL Meister said:
Basically you cann install the playstore through the gmail hack. You install gmail via the included chinese store app. Then it will automatically load playstore on the device.
If you pick your seller with care they will have a semi western rom on the phone. I (I posted the link to the seller in the where to buy thread) ordered my vivo nex from a seller who does that. They will have english language, playsore gmail, maps youtube etc preinstalled.
Despite the not open software of the nex just because its sheer popularity there will be custom roms and hacks. You can bet on that! Just not as many of corse.
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will the gmail hack enable google services like Calender and contact sync also??
When you open the developer options, your phone will keep warning on status bar???
野比君 said:
When you open the developer options, your phone will keep warning on status bar
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Are you serious??
Btw, do you know if you can eliminate the chinese software that comes pre-installed? And can you configurate everything you need as if it were a "normal western android"? (contacts, calendar sync, emails, etc)
LOL Meister said:
Hey!
I have currently a Vivo NEX on order from AliExpress.
I wonder how fast (if at all) there will be a way to root the device, and most importantly: install Google Play and custom launchers on it.
A custom ROM; something stock like would also be exciting to see soon.
Another question that I have is: will I be able to use the in-display-fingerprintsensor when I install a custom launcher?
I guess that's a very noob question but I really have not much experience with that because this will be my fist phone with a fingerprintsensor at all.
Greeting from Austria!!
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I have the Vivo Nex now. Can't use third party launcher unless you sign up for a vivo account which can only be done with a China phone number. This is a new development as I was able to get nova on vivo x21 without account.
Really annoying.
radioraheem2 said:
I have the Vivo Nex now. Can't use third party launcher unless you sign up for a vivo account which can only be done with a China phone number. This is a new development as I was able to get nova on vivo x21 without account.
Really annoying.
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Thanks for informing! I really hope that someone finds a workaround soon!
Just a note at the side: I don't know about stability but even though the Vivo OS looks a lot like iOS especially for larger phones like that things like the quick draw from the bottom are quite nice features.
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Are you serious??
Btw, do you know if you can eliminate the chinese software that comes pre-installed? And can you configurate everything you need as if it were a "normal western android"? (contacts, calendar sync, emails, etc)
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Also interested in this one, since the phone is available now! Mine will take some time in shipping though.
So I've got two Huawei mobiles and two Huawei watches, but after owning their phones since February (Mate 10 Pro) and April (P20 Pro) this year I'm probably not going to buy the next Huawei phones for the following reasons (no particular order).
1) You can't guarantee you will get a device that won't be rebranded by network operators
2) Poor update schedule (including to latest versions - we don't know if/when UK branded phones will get Pie)
3) Too many incompatible apps
4) Notifications don't work correctly
5) Unable to customise notifications for certain things (ie different different ringtones for different contacts, different notifications for different apps)
6) Apps being killed of to prevent background processing even though added into whitelist
7) No default encryption on the phone Had confirmed by another member of staff that the phone is encrypted by default
8) Can't restore data for apps to other devices (non Huawei phones)
9) Removed the facility to unlock the bootloader
10) Customer support is not brilliant
11) No HDR playback in Netflix or Amazon Video (playback same as standard HD)
Why I would buy another Huawei phone
1) Decent hardware
2) Better links with my watches compared to other devices
3) Bluetooth works as intended unlike it did on my Pixel XL
4) Pricing
5) They revoke stance on unlocking bootloader
6) Guarantee you get a device that won't get rebranded
7) Wifi calling works
8) They introduce standard encryption on the devices
If I didn't buy another Huawei my choices would be either Pixel or OnePlus, my only issues with these is that on the Pixel range wifi calling has been previously locked to work with EE only and the Pixels are becoming overprice similar to Apple.
OnePlus looks tempting especially for the price and that it is close to stock and will receive regular updates like the Pixel devices.
What are your thoughts, would you buy another Huawei device or not and what are the reasons influencing your decision
Here are my remarks on your cons:
1) what do you exactly mean by that?
2) P20 Pro is scheduled for Pie in September (at least Beta) so I do not see any issue here, of course there are faster manufacturers but also a lot that are slower.
3) What apps are incompatible? The google stock replacements like dialer? I guess this is a common thing on most manufacturers that do not ship stock android
5) Different ringtonesfor different contacts is definetly possible
6) This will also happen on other phones but yes huawei memory management is a little more aggressive
8) I do sync app data with google which seems to work pretty nice?
Regarding the other points I am either opinionated but they are subjective or I have not expierenced them
1) In the UK there are two models sold C782 and C432, with the common one being C782 which gets rebranded by the network operator - until you buy the device you don't know which model you get
2) It might be scheduled but again for UK users the release maybe delayed or blocked by the network operators due to them being the ones who authorise the update not huawei. We are now only on 131 and my Mate 10 Pro took over 3 months to get an update due to it being rebranded by a UK network .
3) Various apps especially with Amazon, some apps work but don't function correctly and this includes the google apps
5) I'm sure you can't but i'll have another check as when tried previously it wouldn't
6) it can but when you whitelist them to not be killed they aren't, but huawei still does kill apps or prevents background tasks
8) some apps you can't especially the huawei ones, you can only transfer to another huawei device as they won't let you save to google cloud
as for the other cons
4) Is it a known fact that notifications don't work properly on the huawei devices
7) Huawei have confirmed there is no default encryption on the devices - the only way to have something encrypted is with the filesafe
9) Huawei removed the ability to obtain the unlock code for any Huawei devices on 25 July 2018
10) This was experienced with the BOSE headphone claim and their attitude towards customers, also the customer service is not brilliant with them taking sometimes months to respond to emails, with a lot of replies just being scripted.
As I said this is my opinion of why I won't probably buy another Huawei phone and asked would you buy another phone or not and want would be your influence for the reason chosen.
My response. Your comments are mainly incorrect.
1) You can't guarantee you will get a device that won't be rebranded by network operators -
its not rebranded. Just a splash screen and network specific apps. This happens on a lot of different brands.
2) Poor update schedule (including to latest versions - we don't know if/when UK branded phones will get Pie)
The phone has had more updates than most. The networks in the UK do slow matters down, but any EU 432 version has had constant updates and additional features added.
3) Too many incompatible apps
I have a very heavy app install. None were incompatible.
4) Notifications don't work correctly
Again, all my notifications worked fine. In the beginning I had to tell system not ignore an app battery drain warning for 2 apps only.
5) Unable to customise notifications for certain things (ie different different ringtones for different contacts, different notifications for different apps)
You most certainly can. Its an android 8.1 thing.
6) Apps being killed of to prevent background processing even though added into whitelist
Again, never had this.
7) No default security on the phone
Not true. P20 Pro is encrypted. Apps like Tune In Pro wont work unless phone is encrypted.
8) Can't restore data for apps to other devices (non Huawei phones)
Always setup fresh on a new phone, so not sure.
9) Removed the facility to unlock the bootloader
Most people, 99% dont care or know about this.
10) Customer support is not brilliant
I havent had anything serious wrong with my phone to test this.
1) So you saying that an unlocked sim-free phone when inserted with a three sim and gets rebranded to show the three logo which cannot be reversed is not rebranding. It doesn't happen on a lot of different devices if you purchase them outside of a contract, it only seems to be Huawei and devices sold as sim-free from places like CPW. Huawei even state the phones get rebranded if they are the C782 version.
2) You are on about the C432 version not the C782 which is mostly sold in the UK and you are lucky to get the C432 model
3) I have apps that were installed on my old phones that are now incompatible with Huawei phones, I can't even update Amazon as it now says incompatible via Google Play.
5) Not every app is providing me with the notifications even though I have changed the settings in the battery optimizations and ensure notifications are enabled. Even in the nofication screens it says 2 apps disabled from sending notifications but doesn't show me which apps they are.
6) I have seen this on a few of the apps I use
7) No it is not, Huawei have confirmed this that the phone is not encrypted by default and you have to use the filesafe. Email Huawei UK and see if you get different response
9) That might be the case but users like me that can be a deciding factor
10) You don't need to have an issue with the phone, even if you email them asking basic questions about updates, the product they are not always helpful and provide scripted answers.
Again another post saying what is wrong with my decisions and that they are incorrect, but based on my use of the device and information from huawei these are the reasons WHY I WOULD NOT buy another Huawei device.
The simple I posted was would you buy another Huawei device or not and what are your reasons for your choice, not my choice....
I am not going to have a debate. My points made were factually correct including the encryption point.
If you're having specific issues with an app then I'm sure someone on here could help you unless it is simply not compatible.
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I am not going to have a debate. My points made were factually correct including the encryption point.
If you're having specific issues with an app then I'm sure someone on here could help you unless it is simply not compatible.
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To you your points maybe valid, but as can be seen by the replies from Huawei UK you will see why I base some of my comments on them
This week regarding the encryption on the P20 Pro which took over 2 months for them to answer
Dear ????,
Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
In response to your question, please be informed that the Huawei P20 Pro device it is not encrypted. However, all the information you are saving on the "file safe" it is encrypted. This means that the information is private and it can be accessed only by you. This option it is secured and it can be accessed only with your fingerprint.
I trust this information is of assistance and I wish you a nice day!
Should you have any further inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Sandra
Huawei Support - Customer Care UK
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and this is in relation to a phone being rebranded - any change from the standard huawei bootloader splash to a three splash is re-branding....
version sold in Carphone Warehouse is the open market version and it is exactly the same one sold by H3G.
The software version is also the same, however, this will be customized to the relevant operator depending on the SIM card that is inserted in the device for the very first time.
This customization is irreversible as per the operator's requirement, however, the device will maintain its SIM Free status.
One of the reasons behind it is to ensure the 4G/Wi-fi calling feature will be enabled on these devices. As you may know this option is not available on the unbranded/open market devices, as it requires network customization.
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The P20 Pro is encrypted. The info provided by customer services was wrong.
I had a Blackberry Key2 , it did the same thing with my 3 sim card.
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The P20 Pro is encrypted. The info provided by customer services was wrong.
I had a Blackberry Key2 , it did the same thing with my 3 sim card.
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it had taken them 2 months to come back with that and even when i re-questioned it they still stated that the p20 pro is not encrypted
that is bad if you purchased it unlocked sim-free, i understand if you got it on a contract you would expect it to be branded with the three logo but not when purchased outside of a contract
walkerx said:
1) You can't guarantee you will get a device that won't be rebranded by network operators
I live in Germany and the C432 European Version you can buy here is not branded and free for all, so no problem for me.
2) Poor update schedule (including to latest versions - we don't know if/when UK branded phones will get Pie)
Again, for C432 version phones no problem. Bought mine in May, got an update every month since. Pie is rumored to be available as soon as September, maybe.
3) Too many incompatible apps
No incompatible apps here. Read about a problem with VLC Player, but I don't use this, so... again, no problem for me.
4) Notifications don't work correctly
I rarely have this issue. Currently, everything works fine.
5) Unable to customise notifications for certain things (ie different different ringtones for different contacts, different notifications for different apps)
Yes, I agree, this is dumb. I would also like to have this out of the box. Can be modified with 3rd party apps though.
6) Apps being killed of to prevent background processing even though added into whitelist
Not had this problem, yet. Whitelist works for me. But then, maybe I just don't use apps that don't. No idea.
7) No default security on the phone
What does that mean? Default security? It forces you to set a pin number when setting up, or do you mean something different?
8) Can't restore data for apps to other devices (non Huawei phones)
It works with Phone Clone.
9) Removed the facility to unlock the bootloader
Yeah, sucks.
10) Customer support is not brilliant
Had very good experiences with their customer support, to be honest.
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I would get another Huawei in a heartbeat. But this time, I'd not buy it right after launch but wait a few months until all the software updates fixed all the issues
Now, with v.152 my P20 Pro works perfectly fine. I wished it would have been like this right from the start. It was a long way from .107 to .152, regarding camera quality and bugs.
all the pugs said:
I would get another Huawei in a heartbeat. But this time, I'd not buy it right after launch but wait a few months until all the software updates fixed all the issues
Now, with v.152 my P20 Pro works perfectly fine. I wished it would have been like this right from the start. It was a long way from .107 to .152, regarding camera quality and bugs.
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1 & 2) UK it is the C782 model that is widely available and thus behind on the updates and they are authorised by the network providers not huawei - if they were the c432 models it would be better and we would be receiving the same updates. Got mine on release and wish we were getting updates every month, instead it's three+ months till we get updates.
3) Yeh I think this is more down to individual usage of apps as we all use different ones
4) Sometimes I get no notifications, but may get them a few hours later or when I reboot the phone
7) Sorry I meant no encryption by default
8) it won't restore all the data from a huawei on to a pixel and it won't transfer all the data from pixel to huawei - had this issue with the huawei apps had to install from scratch and reset them back up - lost all huawei health data and watch configurations
Huawei Health data is connected to your Huawei ID, if you have one. You can install Huawei Health also on another device, if I remember correctly. Log back in into your Huawei ID and your data should re-appear. At least in theory
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1 & 2) UK it is the C782 model that is widely available and thus behind on the updates and they are authorised by the network providers not huawei - if they were the c432 models it would be better and we would be receiving the same updates. Got mine on release and wish we were getting updates every month, instead it's three+ months till we get updates.
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Isn't it better to debrand it to c432? I did that for mine and now I'm rocking b152 even though I can chose to install b156. I just can't be arsed to update for "disabled master AI as default"
I would totaly get another Huawei. Fantastic update support, fantastic camera, fast and smooth os. What more to ask. Thanks again huawei.
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Huawei Health data is connected to your Huawei ID, if you have one. You can install Huawei Health also on another device, if I remember correctly. Log back in into your Huawei ID and your data should re-appear. At least in theory
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It doesn't it stores it all data on your device only - did email them providing a suggestion to have it so it acts like strava, runtastic, mapmyfitness etc where you can view on website if swap phones and then have it automatically pulled back to device. the google fit syncing is useless (not huawei's fault but googles) as after a while it deletes any tracking and just provides overall figures. plus GF is not accurate between watch, phone and website as they all show different stats.
lambstone said:
Isn't it better to debrand it to c432? I did that for mine and now I'm rocking b152 even though I can chose to install b156. I just can't be arsed to update for "disabled master AI as default"
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at moment for me no - don't want to risk chance of it getting bricked or certain apps no longer working because of it as I use banking and authenication apps which take time to get them re-registered and working again.
sniper20 said:
I would totaly get another Huawei. Fantastic update support, fantastic camera, fast and smooth os. What more to ask. Thanks again huawei.
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They make excellent hardware, you can't deny that, both my watches are brilliant and not had any issues with them - it's just the few things that have made we wonder if to get another huawei. If I was guaranteed to not get a Huawei that would not rely on networks to provide the update, but instead got these from huawei on a regular basis (coming from using the nexus and pixel range i've got used to the frequent updates) I may get another huawei phone, but it also relies on the encryption and other issues being resolved for me.
Am not gonna buy another one. Unless bootloader unlock method is re-provided.
I'll never buy a phone i can't root in day one.
If things remain unchanged from huawei side and there is no 3rd party (DC Unlocker etc) providing unlock method, i thing i'll just keep my P20 Pro for main camera,
And for daily driver, get something like, One Plus 7, maybe.
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Am not gonna buy another one. Unless bootloader unlock method is re-provided.
I'll never buy a phone i can't root in day one.
If things remain unchanged from huawei side and there is no 3rd party (DC Unlocker etc) providing unlock method, i thing i'll just keep my P20 Pro for main camera,
And for daily driver, get something like, One Plus 7, maybe.
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Even if you don't root it day one, you still want that choice - all my old phones I rooted and installed different firmwares on except my Pixel XL and Pixel C (tablet) - even my G1 was flashed with different roms as they became available - my htc, lg and samsung devices all got rooted and flashed with different roms - even my tab 3 8" is still running using lineageos
I have also been looking at OnePlus and Pixel - And I'm more than likely going to go OnePlus as updates are good and phone is cheap and I know a few people who have them
I have my Mate 10 Pro which I would probably get rid off and use the P20 Pro as backup phone
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Isn't it better to debrand it to c432? I did that for mine and now I'm rocking b152 even though I can chose to install b156. I just can't be arsed to update for "disabled master AI as default"
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Ditto! I'm waiting for something significant from the update (like 3rd Party notifications on AOD) before I move on from .152.
As much as I like the p20 pro, huawei have stopped offering bootloader unlocks which has ended my interest in them.
Very happy with the hardware.
However I'd never buy another Huawei as long as their new policy of unlockable bootloader sticks. Worse, it seems they're not even going to provide sources anymore - a blatant violation of the GPL, apart from anything else.
No thanks. Shame, too. Their hardware is outstanding and innovative.
I still think the locked bootloaders are a sop to the US Government, to avoid further censure there.
Hey guys,
I posted on the other threads but it seems like my concern shifts to be another.
First off: Yes I have tried switching regions with the tutorials. No nothing happened. I switched back to EuEx, no dualism because I don't need it.
Yes I tried every possible EU VPN Tunnel and updating OTA.
Nothing helped.
Now I have searched for my current Firmware, and there is no actual discussion about it. It is CPH2025_11_A.52 I am on the security Patch Level December 2020. So it came to my mind that it could actually be the firmware that prevents the updatingprocess. Is this possible?
With every other EU-Colleague of mine getting at least C59 with EuEX I'm starting to think it's just my phone.
Is there something I can do about it or do I have to wait for a flashable Android 11 zip? Which would ultimately leave me with selling the phone since I purchased it in regards to receiving an android 11 smartphone.
Thanks for reading in advance!
No problem with your version ,its just Oppo s way of doing things.I have cph 2025.11.A50 november security patch.
I reached them and they said i should take my unit to service ,i asked them why?its not broken !
Very wierd solution.
My phone works like a charm ,great performance ,good battery life ,so im happy with the software.
P.s bought phone from Switzerland.
@andreiselegean1984 @CaptainRage while it may not be broken on the hardware level there definitely seems to be something wrong with it, so sending it in is not that weird a solution imho. There surely is some sort of repair service in your country that acts as an official Oppo partner for warranty repairs, so why not just contact them and see if they can help by just flashing the newest software onto it and be done with it. The only hassle being that you'll have to do without it for a couples of days but maybe you still have one of your older phones that you can use instead for the time being...
Well Oppo doesn't seem to be cooperating that much:
We are sorry to know that you didn’t receive the ColorOS 11 update on your Find X2 Pro just yet.
In order to clarify this for you, please allow us to offer you a background explanation.
To make sure everything of the new version can run smoothly and reduce the unnecessary risk of the end-user, the ColorOS 11 update is released in batches. This is a protective measure used in global leave for all the new software versions.That’s why a certain amount of devices don’t receive the update on the announced date. But don’t worry! As your satisfaction is our priority, we at OPPO are doing our best to release the update for your phone as soon as possible. Rest assured that you will receive ColorOS 11 soon.
I appreciate your understanding and wish you a wonderful day!
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Well Oppo doesn't seem to be cooperating that much:
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This is just the usual BS the customer service gives you, forget about that. There have to be companies in your country that are official Oppo service partners which do all the repairs that are eligible for warranty. Contact one of them directly and tell them what the problem is and see if they accept it as a warranty repair.
Hi Everyone - Sorry in advance that I have ridiculous beginner questions, but I just moved to China AND I just bought my first OnePlus Friday. I'm coming from a Pixel 4a5G and couple pixels before that. I haven't rooted or tweaked in many years since my Galaxy Siii with CyanogenMod. As you're about to see, I have no idea what I'm doing...
My phone: OnePlus 9 LE2110 (China) running ColorOS 11.2 (LE2110_11_A.01)
Carrier: China Mobile (also have Google Fi and will probably dual sim)
Current Location: China (but travel to US, UAE and will use Google Fi there)
I just want stability, Google Apps and for all my 4G/5G service whether I am in China or in the US. I'm fine keeping ColorOS or switching to OxygenOS. Because I value stability, I am hoping to not root or do things that might jeopardize that too much.
I've been able to sideload some apps, but I don't find that to be sustainable. I've installed the Play Store and it says it is certified, but nothing will download. An app will look like it tries to download, but gets stuck at "pending." I do have ExpressV*N running and have no issues getting gmail or the other couple Google apps working. I'm running Play 25.5.27-21
Am I able to get the Play store running and apps updating on ColorOS in China? If so, any ideas what I've done wrong?
If not, do I need to do anything besides what mlgmxyysd (amazing by the way!!) listed on the downgrade post to downgrade and install OxygenOS? I saw some people having issues with IMEIs. Looks like the latest update solved it, but I have no idea if I need to do something different.
Does the downgrade here use the Indian build? If so, should I stick with that or try to upgrade eventually to the US build? Is that even possible?
My dumbest question of all: do I download the ColorOS downgrade file if I am switching from ColorOS to OxygenOS?
I promise I have done 8-10 hours of research to try and answer my own questions. It might not seem like it and I'm sure I've overlooked very obvious information, but it's because I'm dumb, not lazy.
If you've made it this far: thanks for reading and for any insight you might have.
If you want stability, then you might want to change to oxygenOS. Most of the users here are using oxygenOS. And I haven't encountered any bugs as of yet on my oneplus 9. This will most likely solve your issue on google.
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If you want stability, then you might want to change to oxygenOS. Most of the users here are using oxygenOS. And I haven't encountered any bugs as of yet on my oneplus 9. This will most likely solve your issue on google.
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Thanks. I finally bit the bullet and converted. No real issues except for one error that has gone away (or been hidden and doesn't matter). I still have my 5g connection which I was concerned about (I average 200 Mbps on speed test) and was able to sync with my Google account so I have Play and all my old apps.
I've gotten an OTA update for 11.2.7.7.LE25DA and I'm nervous to ruin a good thing so I haven't installed it yet. I'm also only running my China Mobile sim. I haven't added my Fi SIM to it yet, also for fear of breaking something.
Either way, this really changed my life. Thanks for your final push and for the OP of the ColorOS to OxygenOS conversion.
if rooted use magisk hide like in screenshot I make my pixel 5 change fingerprint to anything and then it should work if not do the device id and maker mine showed
obviously oxygen os is the better choice ,coloros has too many ads. And you don't have to download the degraded file between o os and color os.
Thanks, everyone. Shortly after I posted this and got a little feedback I switched to Oxygen OS. It was a game changer. I don't care so much about Color OS vs. Oxygen OS (I see some merits in both), but this is much closer to my old Pixel feel and more importantly, I have easy access to Play store.