Would you buy another Huawei - Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

So I've got two Huawei mobiles and two Huawei watches, but after owning their phones since February (Mate 10 Pro) and April (P20 Pro) this year I'm probably not going to buy the next Huawei phones for the following reasons (no particular order).
1) You can't guarantee you will get a device that won't be rebranded by network operators
2) Poor update schedule (including to latest versions - we don't know if/when UK branded phones will get Pie)
3) Too many incompatible apps
4) Notifications don't work correctly
5) Unable to customise notifications for certain things (ie different different ringtones for different contacts, different notifications for different apps)
6) Apps being killed of to prevent background processing even though added into whitelist
7) No default encryption on the phone Had confirmed by another member of staff that the phone is encrypted by default
8) Can't restore data for apps to other devices (non Huawei phones)
9) Removed the facility to unlock the bootloader
10) Customer support is not brilliant
11) No HDR playback in Netflix or Amazon Video (playback same as standard HD)
Why I would buy another Huawei phone
1) Decent hardware
2) Better links with my watches compared to other devices
3) Bluetooth works as intended unlike it did on my Pixel XL
4) Pricing
5) They revoke stance on unlocking bootloader
6) Guarantee you get a device that won't get rebranded
7) Wifi calling works
8) They introduce standard encryption on the devices
If I didn't buy another Huawei my choices would be either Pixel or OnePlus, my only issues with these is that on the Pixel range wifi calling has been previously locked to work with EE only and the Pixels are becoming overprice similar to Apple.
OnePlus looks tempting especially for the price and that it is close to stock and will receive regular updates like the Pixel devices.
What are your thoughts, would you buy another Huawei device or not and what are the reasons influencing your decision

Here are my remarks on your cons:
1) what do you exactly mean by that?
2) P20 Pro is scheduled for Pie in September (at least Beta) so I do not see any issue here, of course there are faster manufacturers but also a lot that are slower.
3) What apps are incompatible? The google stock replacements like dialer? I guess this is a common thing on most manufacturers that do not ship stock android
5) Different ringtonesfor different contacts is definetly possible
6) This will also happen on other phones but yes huawei memory management is a little more aggressive
8) I do sync app data with google which seems to work pretty nice?
Regarding the other points I am either opinionated but they are subjective or I have not expierenced them

1) In the UK there are two models sold C782 and C432, with the common one being C782 which gets rebranded by the network operator - until you buy the device you don't know which model you get
2) It might be scheduled but again for UK users the release maybe delayed or blocked by the network operators due to them being the ones who authorise the update not huawei. We are now only on 131 and my Mate 10 Pro took over 3 months to get an update due to it being rebranded by a UK network .
3) Various apps especially with Amazon, some apps work but don't function correctly and this includes the google apps
5) I'm sure you can't but i'll have another check as when tried previously it wouldn't
6) it can but when you whitelist them to not be killed they aren't, but huawei still does kill apps or prevents background tasks
8) some apps you can't especially the huawei ones, you can only transfer to another huawei device as they won't let you save to google cloud
as for the other cons
4) Is it a known fact that notifications don't work properly on the huawei devices
7) Huawei have confirmed there is no default encryption on the devices - the only way to have something encrypted is with the filesafe
9) Huawei removed the ability to obtain the unlock code for any Huawei devices on 25 July 2018
10) This was experienced with the BOSE headphone claim and their attitude towards customers, also the customer service is not brilliant with them taking sometimes months to respond to emails, with a lot of replies just being scripted.
As I said this is my opinion of why I won't probably buy another Huawei phone and asked would you buy another phone or not and want would be your influence for the reason chosen.

My response. Your comments are mainly incorrect.
1) You can't guarantee you will get a device that won't be rebranded by network operators -
its not rebranded. Just a splash screen and network specific apps. This happens on a lot of different brands.
2) Poor update schedule (including to latest versions - we don't know if/when UK branded phones will get Pie)
The phone has had more updates than most. The networks in the UK do slow matters down, but any EU 432 version has had constant updates and additional features added.
3) Too many incompatible apps
I have a very heavy app install. None were incompatible.
4) Notifications don't work correctly
Again, all my notifications worked fine. In the beginning I had to tell system not ignore an app battery drain warning for 2 apps only.
5) Unable to customise notifications for certain things (ie different different ringtones for different contacts, different notifications for different apps)
You most certainly can. Its an android 8.1 thing.
6) Apps being killed of to prevent background processing even though added into whitelist
Again, never had this.
7) No default security on the phone
Not true. P20 Pro is encrypted. Apps like Tune In Pro wont work unless phone is encrypted.
8) Can't restore data for apps to other devices (non Huawei phones)
Always setup fresh on a new phone, so not sure.
9) Removed the facility to unlock the bootloader
Most people, 99% dont care or know about this.
10) Customer support is not brilliant
I havent had anything serious wrong with my phone to test this.

1) So you saying that an unlocked sim-free phone when inserted with a three sim and gets rebranded to show the three logo which cannot be reversed is not rebranding. It doesn't happen on a lot of different devices if you purchase them outside of a contract, it only seems to be Huawei and devices sold as sim-free from places like CPW. Huawei even state the phones get rebranded if they are the C782 version.
2) You are on about the C432 version not the C782 which is mostly sold in the UK and you are lucky to get the C432 model
3) I have apps that were installed on my old phones that are now incompatible with Huawei phones, I can't even update Amazon as it now says incompatible via Google Play.
5) Not every app is providing me with the notifications even though I have changed the settings in the battery optimizations and ensure notifications are enabled. Even in the nofication screens it says 2 apps disabled from sending notifications but doesn't show me which apps they are.
6) I have seen this on a few of the apps I use
7) No it is not, Huawei have confirmed this that the phone is not encrypted by default and you have to use the filesafe. Email Huawei UK and see if you get different response
9) That might be the case but users like me that can be a deciding factor
10) You don't need to have an issue with the phone, even if you email them asking basic questions about updates, the product they are not always helpful and provide scripted answers.
Again another post saying what is wrong with my decisions and that they are incorrect, but based on my use of the device and information from huawei these are the reasons WHY I WOULD NOT buy another Huawei device.
The simple I posted was would you buy another Huawei device or not and what are your reasons for your choice, not my choice....

I am not going to have a debate. My points made were factually correct including the encryption point.
If you're having specific issues with an app then I'm sure someone on here could help you unless it is simply not compatible.

gavinfabl said:
I am not going to have a debate. My points made were factually correct including the encryption point.
If you're having specific issues with an app then I'm sure someone on here could help you unless it is simply not compatible.
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To you your points maybe valid, but as can be seen by the replies from Huawei UK you will see why I base some of my comments on them
This week regarding the encryption on the P20 Pro which took over 2 months for them to answer
Dear ????,
Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
In response to your question, please be informed that the Huawei P20 Pro device it is not encrypted. However, all the information you are saving on the "file safe" it is encrypted. This means that the information is private and it can be accessed only by you. This option it is secured and it can be accessed only with your fingerprint.
I trust this information is of assistance and I wish you a nice day!
Should you have any further inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Sandra
Huawei Support - Customer Care UK
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and this is in relation to a phone being rebranded - any change from the standard huawei bootloader splash to a three splash is re-branding....
version sold in Carphone Warehouse is the open market version and it is exactly the same one sold by H3G.
The software version is also the same, however, this will be customized to the relevant operator depending on the SIM card that is inserted in the device for the very first time.
This customization is irreversible as per the operator's requirement, however, the device will maintain its SIM Free status.
One of the reasons behind it is to ensure the 4G/Wi-fi calling feature will be enabled on these devices. As you may know this option is not available on the unbranded/open market devices, as it requires network customization.
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The P20 Pro is encrypted. The info provided by customer services was wrong.
I had a Blackberry Key2 , it did the same thing with my 3 sim card.

gavinfabl said:
The P20 Pro is encrypted. The info provided by customer services was wrong.
I had a Blackberry Key2 , it did the same thing with my 3 sim card.
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it had taken them 2 months to come back with that and even when i re-questioned it they still stated that the p20 pro is not encrypted
that is bad if you purchased it unlocked sim-free, i understand if you got it on a contract you would expect it to be branded with the three logo but not when purchased outside of a contract

walkerx said:
1) You can't guarantee you will get a device that won't be rebranded by network operators
I live in Germany and the C432 European Version you can buy here is not branded and free for all, so no problem for me.
2) Poor update schedule (including to latest versions - we don't know if/when UK branded phones will get Pie)
Again, for C432 version phones no problem. Bought mine in May, got an update every month since. Pie is rumored to be available as soon as September, maybe.
3) Too many incompatible apps
No incompatible apps here. Read about a problem with VLC Player, but I don't use this, so... again, no problem for me.
4) Notifications don't work correctly
I rarely have this issue. Currently, everything works fine.
5) Unable to customise notifications for certain things (ie different different ringtones for different contacts, different notifications for different apps)
Yes, I agree, this is dumb. I would also like to have this out of the box. Can be modified with 3rd party apps though.
6) Apps being killed of to prevent background processing even though added into whitelist
Not had this problem, yet. Whitelist works for me. But then, maybe I just don't use apps that don't. No idea.
7) No default security on the phone
What does that mean? Default security? It forces you to set a pin number when setting up, or do you mean something different?
8) Can't restore data for apps to other devices (non Huawei phones)
It works with Phone Clone.
9) Removed the facility to unlock the bootloader
Yeah, sucks.
10) Customer support is not brilliant
Had very good experiences with their customer support, to be honest.
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I would get another Huawei in a heartbeat. But this time, I'd not buy it right after launch but wait a few months until all the software updates fixed all the issues
Now, with v.152 my P20 Pro works perfectly fine. I wished it would have been like this right from the start. It was a long way from .107 to .152, regarding camera quality and bugs.

all the pugs said:
I would get another Huawei in a heartbeat. But this time, I'd not buy it right after launch but wait a few months until all the software updates fixed all the issues
Now, with v.152 my P20 Pro works perfectly fine. I wished it would have been like this right from the start. It was a long way from .107 to .152, regarding camera quality and bugs.
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1 & 2) UK it is the C782 model that is widely available and thus behind on the updates and they are authorised by the network providers not huawei - if they were the c432 models it would be better and we would be receiving the same updates. Got mine on release and wish we were getting updates every month, instead it's three+ months till we get updates.
3) Yeh I think this is more down to individual usage of apps as we all use different ones
4) Sometimes I get no notifications, but may get them a few hours later or when I reboot the phone
7) Sorry I meant no encryption by default
8) it won't restore all the data from a huawei on to a pixel and it won't transfer all the data from pixel to huawei - had this issue with the huawei apps had to install from scratch and reset them back up - lost all huawei health data and watch configurations

Huawei Health data is connected to your Huawei ID, if you have one. You can install Huawei Health also on another device, if I remember correctly. Log back in into your Huawei ID and your data should re-appear. At least in theory

walkerx said:
1 & 2) UK it is the C782 model that is widely available and thus behind on the updates and they are authorised by the network providers not huawei - if they were the c432 models it would be better and we would be receiving the same updates. Got mine on release and wish we were getting updates every month, instead it's three+ months till we get updates.
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Isn't it better to debrand it to c432? I did that for mine and now I'm rocking b152 even though I can chose to install b156. I just can't be arsed to update for "disabled master AI as default"

I would totaly get another Huawei. Fantastic update support, fantastic camera, fast and smooth os. What more to ask. Thanks again huawei.
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Huawei Health data is connected to your Huawei ID, if you have one. You can install Huawei Health also on another device, if I remember correctly. Log back in into your Huawei ID and your data should re-appear. At least in theory
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It doesn't it stores it all data on your device only - did email them providing a suggestion to have it so it acts like strava, runtastic, mapmyfitness etc where you can view on website if swap phones and then have it automatically pulled back to device. the google fit syncing is useless (not huawei's fault but googles) as after a while it deletes any tracking and just provides overall figures. plus GF is not accurate between watch, phone and website as they all show different stats.
lambstone said:
Isn't it better to debrand it to c432? I did that for mine and now I'm rocking b152 even though I can chose to install b156. I just can't be arsed to update for "disabled master AI as default"
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at moment for me no - don't want to risk chance of it getting bricked or certain apps no longer working because of it as I use banking and authenication apps which take time to get them re-registered and working again.
sniper20 said:
I would totaly get another Huawei. Fantastic update support, fantastic camera, fast and smooth os. What more to ask. Thanks again huawei.
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They make excellent hardware, you can't deny that, both my watches are brilliant and not had any issues with them - it's just the few things that have made we wonder if to get another huawei. If I was guaranteed to not get a Huawei that would not rely on networks to provide the update, but instead got these from huawei on a regular basis (coming from using the nexus and pixel range i've got used to the frequent updates) I may get another huawei phone, but it also relies on the encryption and other issues being resolved for me.

Am not gonna buy another one. Unless bootloader unlock method is re-provided.
I'll never buy a phone i can't root in day one.
If things remain unchanged from huawei side and there is no 3rd party (DC Unlocker etc) providing unlock method, i thing i'll just keep my P20 Pro for main camera,
And for daily driver, get something like, One Plus 7, maybe.

otonieru said:
Am not gonna buy another one. Unless bootloader unlock method is re-provided.
I'll never buy a phone i can't root in day one.
If things remain unchanged from huawei side and there is no 3rd party (DC Unlocker etc) providing unlock method, i thing i'll just keep my P20 Pro for main camera,
And for daily driver, get something like, One Plus 7, maybe.
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Even if you don't root it day one, you still want that choice - all my old phones I rooted and installed different firmwares on except my Pixel XL and Pixel C (tablet) - even my G1 was flashed with different roms as they became available - my htc, lg and samsung devices all got rooted and flashed with different roms - even my tab 3 8" is still running using lineageos
I have also been looking at OnePlus and Pixel - And I'm more than likely going to go OnePlus as updates are good and phone is cheap and I know a few people who have them
I have my Mate 10 Pro which I would probably get rid off and use the P20 Pro as backup phone

lambstone said:
Isn't it better to debrand it to c432? I did that for mine and now I'm rocking b152 even though I can chose to install b156. I just can't be arsed to update for "disabled master AI as default"
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Ditto! I'm waiting for something significant from the update (like 3rd Party notifications on AOD) before I move on from .152.

As much as I like the p20 pro, huawei have stopped offering bootloader unlocks which has ended my interest in them.

Very happy with the hardware.
However I'd never buy another Huawei as long as their new policy of unlockable bootloader sticks. Worse, it seems they're not even going to provide sources anymore - a blatant violation of the GPL, apart from anything else.
No thanks. Shame, too. Their hardware is outstanding and innovative.
I still think the locked bootloaders are a sop to the US Government, to avoid further censure there.

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P20 PRO (CLT-L04): New method for unlock bootloader [Oct 2018] (Mexico&Canada)

Hello everyone!
I have good news for you. After Huawei decided to stop providing the bootloader code, now we have another method to get it.
Unfortunately, it is a method that need to pay.
To the date I'm making this post, the cost is $30€.
Let me be clear:
I do not have a relationship with this people/team/person. I just want to share this method and prove that it works on the Mexican/Canadian model.
A good news, is that they accept PayPal.
If you want to try it, you have to do the following steps:
1.- Go to https://ministryofsolutions.com/huawei-bootloader-unlock-service-all-new-models-new-firmwares.
2. -Click: "Click here to order with PayPal".
3.- Now in your phone, go to the "phone" app and dial *#06#, you will see your IMEI and Serial Number.
3.5.- I suggest to copy those codes, and email you so you won´t have typing errors.
4.- Insert your IMEI and Serial Number into the webpage of ministry of solutions.
5. Make the payment with your paypal account.
6. After 24-48 hours, you will get the bootloader code in the email you used for paypal.
7. Be happy and unlock you bootloader.
I can ensure the web is working correctly. I unlocked mine a few moments ago, now I will rebrand
Thanks.
The guy can only sell 10 code per day, I need to wait tomorrow to order again..
maxfunky said:
The guy can only sell 10 code per day, I need to wait tomorrow to order again..
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I suspect this means that his solution is not exploit based, but revolves around either working for Huawei, or knowing someone who does and getting the codes via them.
Doesn't bode well.
Whoever they are , fair play to them. There's obviously a market for them and they deserve the money.
That said , president of HUAWEI probably want more money so he closed their page and assigned Mutahhar
So bootloader unlocked , what will you guys do now with it ?
Will you install LOS or ?
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So bootloader unlocked , what will you guys do now with it ?
Will you install LOS or ?
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I will give a chance to Huawei and Android Pie version they will make.
But I like LineageOS so much that I will install it in the future. I unlocked my bootloader (and have this fuc…. message each time I reboot the device) only to be able to install custom roms when I will like to do so.
Saison2018 said:
I will give a chance to Huawei and Android Pie version they will make.
But I like LineageOS so much that I will install it in the future. I unlocked my bootloader (and have this fuc…. message each time I reboot the device) only to be able to install custom roms when I will like to do so.
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I have run official LOS on at least a half dozen different phones and I have never run a single build that didn't have bugs. Ever. I don't understand all the love for an OS that receives reports of new bugs from users after every single update.
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I have run official LOS on at least a half dozen different phones and I have never run a single build that didn't have bugs. Ever. I don't understand all the love for an OS that receives reports of new bugs from users after every single update.
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I fully understand your point and I am sure you have your reasons.
But for my point of view, this is exactly how a community should work. People making development could not do everything good every time.
Even big corporation do mistake. For example, my wife had trouble with her iPhone 7 and 12.0 (unable to connect to 5Ghz Wifi). After 12.0.1 it is correct.
On my devices, only some applications were not working correctly. I was able to use my devices on a daily basis, without restriction (personal mail, corporate mail with Outlook, Maps/Waze, listening to music, some games,...). And for my personal experience, updates went smooth, only some (less than 2 per year) went wrong. But I could always flash back and wait for the correction to be applied by people in charge.
The only drawback for me was the battery, it was difficult to length 1 day.
But again, I fully understand and you have the right to not choose LineageOS and use something else.
Saison2018 said:
I fully understand your point and I am sure you have your reasons.
But for my point of view, this is exactly how a community should work. People making development could not do everything good every time.
Even big corporation do mistake. For example, my wife had trouble with her iPhone 7 and 12.0 (unable to connect to 5Ghz Wifi). After 12.0.1 it is correct.
On my devices, only some applications were not working correctly. I was able to use my devices on a daily basis, without restriction (personal mail, corporate mail with Outlook, Maps/Waze, listening to music, some games,...). And for my personal experience, updates went smooth, only some (less than 2 per year) went wrong. But I could always flash back and wait for the correction to be applied by people in charge.
The only drawback for me was the battery, it was difficult to length 1 day.
But again, I fully understand and you have the right to not choose LineageOS and use something else.
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I guess it has to do with how long I have been using custom ROMs. When I started using them years ago devs only worked on ROMs for devices they used themselves every day and the ROMs were not only stable enough to use as a daily driver but offered better performance and features than the stock ROM which is why people used them. Since the devs created ROMs for their own phones they were aware of bugs before posting builds. They didn't rely on users telling them what was wrong with every build after it was uploaded. When a custom ROM was labeled as stable it very rarely had any bugs.
Devs now routinely build or maintain ROMs for phones they don't use (or rarely use) so the ROMs always have bugs. I don't think custom ROMs are stable enough to use as daily drivers anymore but a lot of people seem to be fine with using custom ROMs that are slower and way more buggy than the stock ROM that comes on their phone. To each his own.
Why repost something a day later? https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/bootloader-unlock-service-t3852447
Because I can.
try this... good service and low price, tested on mine p20 pro from mexico..... https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below
is this the same as unlocking your sim? im on telcell and i got zero updates, so im guessing i need to unlock it from telcel? or can i just unlock the bootloader with the code? and also, what do you do with the code once you have it?
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try this... good service and low price, tested on mine p20 pro from mexico..... https://global-unlocking-solutions.miiduu.com/bootloader-unlock-codes-choose-model-below
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did you do this to get it off telcel?
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did you do this to get it off telcel?
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yes for telcel
hey guys, i used funky Hauwei for rebranding from L04 to L29 international. and is working fine. im on l29(c636) but im working on erecovery now, im trying to get it to CLT-L29 9.0.0.108 but we will see. and i will let you know.
but the rebranding is a little tricky but works.
Okay update. Had to go back to L04 because when I went from 8 to pie while branded as L29. It wouldn't install due to compatibility issues. So had to rebrand back to L04. Recovery through funky Huawei. First 8 then 9 and worked perfectly. Only issues I have are with the telcel branding on start up. But all the bloatware I removed or disabled in CCleaner. So I don't have to look at the icons all the time. I'm currently running pie and it's awesome. Lots of cool new tweaks
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Ultra no longer can use Google Services???

Just read this on GSMArena
Xiaomi has suspended non-GMS phones from downloading Google Services
Users have to resort to third-party app distributors like CoolAPK or APKPure. Smartphone companies have been launching their devices in China without...
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Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly but does that mean owners of the Ultra phone currently will have GMS removed via update or will it be still operational for Ultra phone purchased before a certain date?
Just those who still use stock Chinese ROMs that get the miui12.5 update. I don't know if it will remove it, block new installs of GM's or remove the Google framework like Huawei did.
If you are worried, then get yourself moved over to the EU ROM, where Google is fully implemented. Check out the Xiaomi EU forums for details and here is my guide to get over to the ROM. https://mega.nz/file/6UAhXCxZ#Np2KwhMnl8obmOvp4b-2R9ajo0zrtz3vwefy-Ya3PLs
Thanks yeah might have to go onto EU ROM if it does remove it. I guess will have to wait and see in the coming weeks
Confirmation today says it's on new models only and they may reverse it later too. But if you are not in China, you will get a better, more fulfiled ROM with EU versions.

OOS 12 - should I upgrade?

Hey guys,
I got the popup to update to Android/OOS 12 on my Oneplus 8 (Europe/BA variant) recently and I've been thinking - should I do it? Some other forums say it's a total dumpster fire but I'm not sure if it's just irrational hate. I'm being prompted to download IN2013_11.C.16_1160_202204222304 so this isn't the first version. I'm satisfied with the current performance of my phone for now but I'm trying to find out for the future.
Are there any game-breaking bugs or battery life concerns?
Sorry if it's been posted before, I couldn't find this topic. Thanks--
Stay away from it. it's real crap.
Your phone will be slower, many gestures will be slowed down and you will regret the update very soon. Also the latest versions have big problems with Google sync, you will not receive notifications and updates from Google applications.
If you have wifi calling turned on don't upgrade. It's gone in v12.
Other than that, I find things seem to work. Some of the notification sounds have changed, but it's easily fixed.
Alan
Not sure about all of the haters on here, but wifi calling is still available on Android/OOS12. Also, google notifications work fine. I have been using a rooted stock rom on 12 and it has been working well. My only issue is that I lost root with this latest update, but Android 12 is pretty solid.
Thanks for the answers!
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Not sure about all of the haters on here, but wifi calling is still available on Android/OOS12. Also, google notifications work fine. I have been using a rooted stock rom on 12 and it has been working well. My only issue is that I lost root with this latest update, but Android 12 is pretty solid.
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How do you get at wifi calling? In my UK phone, it's not there.
Alan
I just read the first post again, and I am on the global version, so that may be the difference.
For me:
Settings -> Mobile network -> Select sim card with number [Square at the top] -> Wi-Fi Calling
Specifically on the SIM info & settings page, I see the following:
Enable {selector}
SIM name
SIM number
Data roaming {selector}
VoLTE calls {selector}
Wi-fi Calling {sub menu}
Preferred network type
Access point names
Carrier
Maybe that will help.
I did the upgrade about two months ago, and let me tell you is a mess. Stay away from it. Ghost touches, the screen goes ON for no reason, plenty of issues. To me OnePlus has lost its course, this will probably be my last OnePlus device.
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I did the upgrade about two months ago, and let me tell you is a mess. Stay away from it. Ghost touches, the screen goes ON for no reason, plenty of issues. To me OnePlus has lost its course, this will probably be my last OnePlus device.
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Oh yeah, this is definitely my last OnePlus device too, on that we can surely agree. With the price hikes they're just not an option anymore, in stark contrast to before when they were my undisputed #1 pick.
They used to do software, pricing and performance extremely well, now they don't do either one right, and nothing has really improved in the last 2+ years.
I just want to use this phone "securely" until it falls apart cause I'm very happy with it right now.
Even after two years of heavy use it still works flawlessly and the battery is still very good.
I have a long thread about it on the Oneplus support site. Buggy software is pretty common these days, but having a release that has so many bugs in it, is troublesome, to say the least. I have contacted OnePlus support and their solution is for me to wipe the phone - like that is going to fix anything?
Not to criticize, but I think OnePlus has lost it, Support does not have a clue, and nobody that can provide answers is reading the forums or paying attention to what the community and users are saying and going thru with their devices.
Is not only the OP8 that is having upgrade issues, the other models too are plagued with buggy software too.
What the least should do is to acknowledge it, Put a communication out, in the proper channels admit that there have been errors and if you are working on it provide a timeline and that is what a reputable company does. By not doing anything, their reputation is going down the drain, the users are left scrambling trying to get a usable phone.
crashfly said:
I just read the first post again, and I am on the global version, so that may be the difference.
For me:
Settings -> Mobile network -> Select sim card with number [Square at the top] -> Wi-Fi Calling
Specifically on the SIM info & settings page, I see the following:
Enable {selector}
SIM name
SIM number
Data roaming {selector}
VoLTE calls {selector}
Wi-fi Calling {sub menu}
Preferred network type
Access point names
Carrier
Maybe that will help.
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NO I don't have VoLTE or WI-fi Calling. I'm on the EU version (in the UK).
My advice, don't upgrade to OS12. For me it has been a disater.
I haven't had any major issues, but the OS feels much more clunky designed and sluggish to me. There are a few designs I like more, but the update doesn't seem worth it. Also somehow using up much more of my storage space. It says I have 51GB of apps when the total is more like 10-15GB, and 30GB used for system/other.
I just updated my OnePlus 8. I have had Android 12 on it for a few months. It did feel clunky. I just updated it with a 1GB update to OS12. It has greatly improved the performance of the phone. It feels like the original out of box phone now.
I am on global rom and the release landed within the last 3 or 4 days.
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unless you are having issues with the phone, i dont think you need to reset it. C.16 seems to be super stable with respect to battery life and performance. I see only minor bugs like Processor name showing incorrectly (865 reported as 855), battery % not showing in status bar on swipe down etc.
In short, you should be fine without a factory reset
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Two Sheets said:
I just updated my OnePlus 8. I have had Android 12 on it for a few months. It did feel clunky. I just updated it with a 1GB update to OS12. It has greatly improved the performance of the phone. It feels like the original out of box phone now.
I am on global rom and the release landed within the last 3 or 4 days.
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Same here. It runs perfect since the last major update for me as well on Global rom. This is my first OnePlus phone and an almost flagship phone. I just read that OnePlus will be releasing Android 13 on the 8. This is very good news.
Two Sheets said:
Same here. It runs perfect since the last major update for me as well on Global rom. This is my first OnePlus phone and an almost flagship phone. I just read that OnePlus will be releasing Android 13 on the 8. This is very good news.
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Only if they bring back wifi calling on the EU version. Otherwise, I won't bother, but move to Samsung.

Question Has anyone with an unlocked A53 5G (in the US) received the Android 13 update?

Just as the subject mentions. Curious if it's just me?
Nada. No update. And when I mentioned this on their forum, they deleted the post.
I even tried the thing where you remove the SIM and search for updates then. Didn't make any difference.
Searching with Sammoblie and Frija, only the carrier version(A536U) from Xfinity/Comcast has gotten it in the US.
I don't have it either, what bothers me most is that 13 was released for older A phones including lower priced models already. Is it possible that because this is an enterprise phone (at least in the USA) it requires more time for testing?
pj1980 said:
I don't have it either, what bothers me most is that 13 was released for older A phones including lower priced models already. Is it possible that because this is an enterprise phone (at least in the USA) it requires more time for testing?
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What bothers me was how quickly Samsung deleted my post on their forum after I asked about this.
It's been like 6 weeks since the same phone in other countries was given this. It's quite annoying.
snark.shark said:
What bothers me was how quickly Samsung deleted my post on their forum after I asked about this.
It's been like 6 weeks since the same phone in other countries was given this. It's quite annoying.
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Samsung's discussions has a sticky at the top that updates happen whenever (edit: or at least it did before). And that's definitely how it goes for all their devices.
Even Samsung flagships go through silly stuff for updates and Android versions so its not A53 only.
The A53 unlocked has carrier apps on it so its tied to the carrier testing. Why will US carriers release Android 13 for older devices before newer? No idea but that's how their testing is going. They have some reason.
Really, you will get it when you get it. If you just think it won't show up until the year 2721 then it should be easier for you lol.
Its frustrating I know for unlocked to be dependent on carriers. But, waiting, it will at least probably have less bugs so that's fine enough. A buggy device isn't fun at all.
edit: Also A52 appear to be doing better than the A53 in getting Android 13 and listed as Enterprise. So, I don't think Enterprise has anything to do with it.
edit: The end result appears to be what Samsung's sticky said which is updates happen when they happen.
Samsung promised 4 years of updates for this phone so they have about 3 more years to give us android 13.
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Just as the subject mentions. Curious if it's just me?
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3 Days ago, my phone suddenly shut itself off, and then stuck itself in a bootloop and would not boot again. It's a Samsung A53 5G (ATT&T) running android 12 one UI version 4.1 at the time. After booting into safe mode and wiping application config data, it still would not come out of safe mode until I factory reset it and connected it to a wifi network.
Finally after all of this BS, I got it to boot normally, but then, as if by magic, my phone was running Android 13 UI Version 5.0!
WTF!?
So I spent an entire day recovering my bank accounts, cashapp, applications, and various accounts, and chalked this pain in the ass up to the game...
And then this morning, it ****in' happened again.
I'm done with Samsung. This phone has been a $500 piece of **** since day 1. It's not even 3 months old yet. Samsung has gone from the most badass manufacturer of android devices, straight to the bottom of the abyss in terms of quality.
The Bloatware they send with these devices now should be unlawful. The amount of YOUR resources they use to track every single thing you do, every place you go, every dollar you spend is unfathomably creepy and discomforting.
Do yourself a favor and get comfortable with 12. because 13 is an even bigger piece of ****, and in my case, it has totally wrecked my phone twice in 3 days now.
Do yourself an even bigger favor, and throw your samsung into the bottom of the ocean and go buy yourself an IPhone. I'm really sad about the way Samsung has turned out. I'm even more sad about the way Android has gone down the drain. And Google has turned into the world's most powerful creepy stalker with Facebook a close 2nd.
I think if people actually new just how intrusive these tech companies have become, they'd stop using them altogether. There needs to be new and better privacy regulations and trackers and spywares and metadata miners and these 'ad targeting' programs and applications should be illegal.
ImMrMyagiLafAtMe said:
3 Days ago, my phone suddenly shut itself off, and then stuck itself in a bootloop and would not boot again. It's a Samsung A53 5G (ATT&T) running android 12 one UI version 4.1 at the time. After booting into safe mode and wiping application config data, it still would not come out of safe mode until I factory reset it and connected it to a wifi network.
Finally after all of this BS, I got it to boot normally, but then, as if by magic, my phone was running Android 13 UI Version 5.0!
WTF!?
So I spent an entire day recovering my bank accounts, cashapp, applications, and various accounts, and chalked this pain in the ass up to the game...
And then this morning, it ****in' happened again.
I'm done with Samsung. This phone has been a $500 piece of **** since day 1. It's not even 3 months old yet. Samsung has gone from the most badass manufacturer of android devices, straight to the bottom of the abyss in terms of quality.
The Bloatware they send with these devices now should be unlawful. The amount of YOUR resources they use to track every single thing you do, every place you go, every dollar you spend is unfathomably creepy and discomforting.
Do yourself a favor and get comfortable with 12. because 13 is an even bigger piece of ****, and in my case, it has totally wrecked my phone twice in 3 days now.
Do yourself an even bigger favor, and throw your samsung into the bottom of the ocean and go buy yourself an IPhone. I'm really sad about the way Samsung has turned out. I'm even more sad about the way Android has gone down the drain. And Google has turned into the world's most powerful creepy stalker with Facebook a close 2nd.
I think if people actually new just how intrusive these tech companies have become, they'd stop using them altogether. There needs to be new and better privacy regulations and trackers and spywares and metadata miners and these 'ad targeting' programs and applications should be illegal.
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That's not the experience of most people. Since you bring up Apple as if that will help you avoid this when it can happen there too: https://myphotoyear.com/ios-16-update-goes-wrong/
Its just a fact of life.
More or less it could be improved or solved by multi-OS versions at the same time (such as dual boot on a computer), slower major OS versions, etc. This is not how Google or Apple thinks though.
To add, you can of course improve loss of data by using system backup and also backing up your stuff separately. Though Android still isn't perfect there.
Of course, if you see an update, avoiding updating for some months might also help though not ideal.
edit: For instance you could have used the Samsung restore which may be presented on first use setup or even manually done in Settings > Accounts and Backups > Restore which will restore much if you used the online backup or backup to sd card. Some apps and data will be missing if apps don't support it, etc. Unfortunately, it seems to only offer one backup at least online so any backup on the account since might have destroyed it.
edit: using that and backing up to sd card includes 10GB of stuff on my phone whereas the online is suggested as 2GB (it backs up files and also eg debug built from source apps). So, if you want the best, it may be what you should do from now on. Then restore it if need be. Still, up to apps to support backup individually. Make sure to run it weekly or something.
Also, I know you're pissed about that. Try not to be pissed with me lol. Thanks.
I'm thinking we're in for weeks, or months, more wait. We haven't even gotten a January Security Update.
Just received the Android 13 (One UI 5.0) update last night on my unlocked phone. Also includes the Jan 2023 security update. Looks like they just made the January cutoff
Hmm I have unlocked a53 on t mobile, I checked for updates today and it said there were none.
I received the update today for Android 13 including dual sim support.
I been checking my A53 unlocked running on Visible every week since Christmas for an update. Today it found the Android 13 UI 5.0 update. downloading it now.
How is the new version? any bugs found?
ok, once my phone updated and rebooted now I am no longer connecting to 5G. I've rebooted a few times and nothing has changed. I'm stuck back on 4G.
tmeader said:
Just received the Android 13 (One UI 5.0) update last night on my unlocked phone. Also includes the Jan 2023 security update. Looks like they just made the January cutoff
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5 days after your post (6 since you got the update), with daily checking, and it's still a No for me.
My A53 arrived this morning and upon turning it on, my device had a lot of firmware updates waiting for me. I just updated to Android 13 not too ago along with January's Security patch.
I happen to live in the US, use T-Mobile, and I'm using the international version with dual SIM support.
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5 days after your post (6 since you got the update), with daily checking, and it's still a No for me.
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Another 3 days...
Still no Android 13 update.
I may wind up going to the Samsung service location in my area. This is ridiculous.
snark.shark said:
Another 3 days...
Still no Android 13 update.
I may wind up going to the Samsung service location in my area. This is ridiculous.
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They do rollouts on top of things.
You could of course use a sim from a different carrier that has the upgrade available and do it that way. Might just get it immediately or still not. Then switch back. That is a possible workaround.
Of course, if you see a signed image for download for Android 13 for your carrier. That might work too even though it still is a wait for it to show up that way.
I don't know if there's any other way here because of the CSC. It would be interesting to know if a Samsung service shop would do it for you. I can't imagine they would.
Received the update today. Seems to run faster.

Question Rooting Pixel 7 Pro or Pixel 6 is it worth it?

For starters I apologize for the lack of formatting Ill do my best but I'm not used to posting on forums, but I want to make a informed decision and over the years I have found this is the best place to find the answers I'm looking for.
The First Question
I'm debating with myself on two things. Should I root my Google Pixel 7 Pro (my new daily driver) or My Google Pixel 6 (my previous daily driver)?
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The deciding factors would be​
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?
I consider this because I rooted Google Pixel 5a and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to re-enable "secure apps" such as google wallet and banking apps.
In essence I don't want any functionality missing or disabled as a result of rooting and not setting something up properly. If this is avoidable please let me know and shoot me over available resources.
This goes for both phones regardless id like everything to work properly on either phone. I would rather not root the 7 Pro if it meant these types of apps work properly.
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?
The answers to this question will help me weight the options, for instance if there is a decent enough benefit to rooting the 7 Pro then I might just forgo the "secure apps" mentioned in the last question.
I have been in and out of the rooting scheme for a while now and its hard to get updated with current app, edits, extensions, etc. I wouldn't even know what to look for.... depending on how this post goes Ill probaly make another post to ask what kind of stuff root has to offer these days, but for now if you guys can give me any general but impactful information on the differences/benefit/compatibility of rooting one device or the other, I would be grateful.
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?
Right now I have a ATT carrier locked (I didn't buy it from ATT, I bought it from a used phone store and neither of them can or will unlock it...) Pixel 7 Pro and a T-Mobile (soft unlocked) Pixel 6. I have seen a guide for the Pixel 7 Pro and it seems simple enough, and I'm not to sure about the 6 because as I was looking around I was getting some people saying it is possible and others saying its not. I mainly just want to root either phone and have a simple-ish way to update it.
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The Second Question​Is it worth doing?
I know this is mainly a personal preference thing. I like being able to use things like titanium backup, or quick switch, or substrate themes, etc. I am heavily into customization and a lot of things can't be customized the way Id like to be able to. On top of that the ability to hyper configure the device to do exactly what you want when you want is exactly what I want.
This question is mainly to get a properly list of pro's and cons, so I can further weight my options.
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Thats the end for this post
If you guys don't mind with your guy's answers if you could post some updated resources I can look at for root apps and tweaks that would be great.
Thank you for helping me figure this out, and if you didn't or don't want to that's fine too, I'm just glad somebody read this xD.​
It seems like chatgpt is striking again. You asked it a question and it posted it? The links for rooting and what you can do are on page one. You see the awkward wording, ufff.
Kai2150 said:
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?​
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No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
Kai2150 said:
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?​
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I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Kai2150 said:
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?​
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Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
Kai2150 said:
Is it worth doing?
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AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
wangdaning said:
It seems like chatgpt is striking again. You asked it a question and it posted it? The links for rooting and what you can do are on page one. You see the awkward wording, ufff.
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No i wrote that all my self lol
Fishawy said:
No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
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Alright you make a good case, could you link me to the various pages with the information for both the PixelFlasher and the above apps/modules
Fishawy said:
No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
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Do you know if I can unroot? Like say i cant get the banking apps to work and want to go back could I unroot and get access to those apps back?
Kai2150 said:
Do you know if I can unroot? Like say i cant get the banking apps to work and want to go back could I unroot and get access to those apps back?
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Root
Pixel Flasher
Universal SafetyNet Fix
AdAway
AOSP Mods
The rest can be found here on XDA or on Play Store.
Not sure about unroot since I don't need it, perhaps a bit of a read in P7P forum here can help.
Reflash stock init_boot.img and you will be unrooted. Depending, you might have to do a factory reset and bootloader relock. It really depends on the apps and such.
Kai2150 said:
For starters I apologize for the lack of formatting Ill do my best but I'm not used to posting on forums, but I want to make a informed decision and over the years I have found this is the best place to find the answers I'm looking for.
The First Question
I'm debating with myself on two things. Should I root my Google Pixel 7 Pro (my new daily driver) or My Google Pixel 6 (my previous daily driver)?
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
The deciding factors would be​
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?
I consider this because I rooted Google Pixel 5a and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to re-enable "secure apps" such as google wallet and banking apps.
In essence I don't want any functionality missing or disabled as a result of rooting and not setting something up properly. If this is avoidable please let me know and shoot me over available resources.
This goes for both phones regardless id like everything to work properly on either phone. I would rather not root the 7 Pro if it meant these types of apps work properly.
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?
The answers to this question will help me weight the options, for instance if there is a decent enough benefit to rooting the 7 Pro then I might just forgo the "secure apps" mentioned in the last question.
I have been in and out of the rooting scheme for a while now and its hard to get updated with current app, edits, extensions, etc. I wouldn't even know what to look for.... depending on how this post goes Ill probaly make another post to ask what kind of stuff root has to offer these days, but for now if you guys can give me any general but impactful information on the differences/benefit/compatibility of rooting one device or the other, I would be grateful.
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?
Right now I have a ATT carrier locked (I didn't buy it from ATT, I bought it from a used phone store and neither of them can or will unlock it...) Pixel 7 Pro and a T-Mobile (soft unlocked) Pixel 6. I have seen a guide for the Pixel 7 Pro and it seems simple enough, and I'm not to sure about the 6 because as I was looking around I was getting some people saying it is possible and others saying its not. I mainly just want to root either phone and have a simple-ish way to update it.
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The Second Question​Is it worth doing?
I know this is mainly a personal preference thing. I like being able to use things like titanium backup, or quick switch, or substrate themes, etc. I am heavily into customization and a lot of things can't be customized the way Id like to be able to. On top of that the ability to hyper configure the device to do exactly what you want when you want is exactly what I want.
This question is mainly to get a properly list of pro's and cons, so I can further weight my options.
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Thats the end for this post
If you guys don't mind with your guy's answers if you could post some updated resources I can look at for root apps and tweaks that would be great.
Thank you for helping me figure this out, and if you didn't or don't want to that's fine too, I'm just glad somebody read this xD.​
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Just a note/thought...
I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to root either device (Pixel 6 or P7P)...carrier variant Pixel's are notoriously inconsistent (& sometimes just as difficult) to get the bootloader unlocked -- which is necessary to root. Apparently, carriers vary -- Verizon is a nonstarter and is for the most part impossible -- and, from what I've seen around the forum here, a lot of the times you'll need to pay off the device fully to get the carrier to send the signal to SIM unlock your device which will get the OEM unlock tick enabled (another necessity to root). You've stated that AT&T already has given you a hard time and has yet to unlock it, and from what I recall AT&T is similar in T-Mo that you must get it SIM unlocked -- so if they won't get that far, your options might be limited in terms of the Pixel 7 Pro that is an AT&T variant. In a lot of cases for T-Mobile, speaking them through Twitter support and/or regular customer service support can get them to send that signal that will SIM unlock (depending on what you tell them; i.e. you are a developer and require for it to be unlocked, you are traveling internationally and need to input another SIM temporarily, etc.); I'm unsure if you can do the same for AT&T.
Another note/thought is that, after rooting, updating isn't too difficult, BUT it is not as easy as using the built-in System Update process. Using the tool PixelFlasher makes it very straightforward and basically is almost the closest way to have a one-click update method, but it isn't as easy. BUT it is DEFINITELY faster than updating via OTA using the built-in System Update process (3-5 minutes vs. 20+ minutes)!
Lastly, be aware that in order to root, you must unlock your bootloader, and when you unlock your bootloader, it is required that your device is wiped -- since you speak as if you've used both devices at least a fair amount (moreso your Pixel 6 as it's been your daily driver for a while now), I'm sure there is also a fair amount of data and customizations on there that you will now have to re-enter, re-setup, re-transfer, re-download, and the like...
Just some thoughts that you might want to keep in mind...good luck to you!
simplepinoi177 said:
Just a note/thought...
I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to root either device (Pixel 6 or P7P)...carrier variant Pixel's are notoriously inconsistent (& sometimes just as difficult) to get the bootloader unlocked -- which is necessary to root. Apparently, carriers vary -- Verizon is a nonstarter and is for the most part impossible -- and, from what I've seen around the forum here, a lot of the times you'll need to pay off the device fully to get the carrier to send the signal to SIM unlock your device which will get the OEM unlock tick enabled (another necessity to root). You've stated that AT&T already has given you a hard time and has yet to unlock it, and from what I recall AT&T is similar in T-Mo that you must get it SIM unlocked -- so if they won't get that far, your options might be limited in terms of the Pixel 7 Pro that is an AT&T variant. In a lot of cases for T-Mobile, speaking them through Twitter support and/or regular customer service support can get them to send that signal that will SIM unlock (depending on what you tell them; i.e. you are a developer and require for it to be unlocked, you are traveling internationally and need to input another SIM temporarily, etc.); I'm unsure if you can do the same for AT&T.
Another note/thought is that, after rooting, updating isn't too difficult, BUT it is not as easy as using the built-in System Update process. Using the tool PixelFlasher makes it very straightforward and basically is almost the closest way to have a one-click update method, but it isn't as easy. BUT it is DEFINITELY faster than updating via OTA using the built-in System Update process (3-5 minutes vs. 20+ minutes)!
Lastly, be aware that in order to root, you must unlock your bootloader, and when you unlock your bootloader, it is required that your device is wiped -- since you speak as if you've used both devices at least a fair amount (moreso your Pixel 6 as it's been your daily driver for a while now), I'm sure there is also a fair amount of data and customizations on there that you will now have to re-enter, re-setup, re-transfer, re-download, and the like...
Just some thoughts that you might want to keep in mind...good luck to you!
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Yeah I spent the entire night I made this post trying to bypass the OEM lock and that morning called the providers and neither of them can unlock it, which is BS cause I'm not the person who didn't pay their bill. I'm just going to wait until someone finds a work around, if y'all figure something out lemme know.
I do not even need a smartphone without root rights !!
We should push legislation so that Google will must include root access by default in the settings for any Android device !!
Kai2150 said:
Yeah I spent the entire night I made this post trying to bypass the OEM lock and that morning called the providers and neither of them can unlock it, which is BS cause I'm not the person who didn't pay their bill. I'm just going to wait until someone finds a work around, if y'all figure something out lemme know.
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Sorry to hear that...but it is as I feared...
Unfortunately you shouldn't hold your breath. Locked down Pixels are fairly notorious about not being able to bypass; Verizon has locked down every Pixel since the original, with bounties $4k+ offering to bypass/unlock, all without success -- I'm unsure if there was ever one with other carriers. The only time there was a "work around" was with the original Pixel seven years ago, which was patched within a month or two. There hasn't been one since...
simplepinoi177 said:
Sorry to hear that...but it is as I feared...
Unfortunately you shouldn't hold your breath. Locked down Pixels are fairly notorious about not being able to bypass; Verizon has locked down every Pixel since the original, with bounties $4k+ offering to bypass/unlock, all without success -- I'm unsure if there was ever one with other carriers. The only time there was a "work around" was with the original Pixel seven years ago, which was patched within a month or two. There hasn't been one since...
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Yeah outta the 4 Pixels I own, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 6, Pixel 5a, and the Pixel 4, the only one that i can root is the pixel 5a which is annoying because it has lower specs and Refresh rate. The Pixel 7 Pro is locked to ATT bought through a third party and they said since i dont know the person who bought it and because there is a balance owed on the device there is no way to unlock it. The Pixel 6 is locked to Sprint/T-Mobile same situation as the P7P, and the 4 is Verizon locked and they said they dont even have it in their system, so yet again no way for me to get it unlocked.
I'm going out on a limb and gonna say there is likely no way to get these unlocked right now but if anyone see's this and knows of a way to convice these people at these companies to unlock the phones let me know cause as of right now i think it is impossible to get the phones unlocked via an unlock service or a program
Kai2150 said:
Yeah outta the 4 Pixels I own, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 6, Pixel 5a, and the Pixel 4, the only one that i can root is the pixel 5a which is annoying because it has lower specs and Refresh rate. The Pixel 7 Pro is locked to ATT bought through a third party and they said since i dont know the person who bought it and because there is a balance owed on the device there is no way to unlock it. The Pixel 6 is locked to Sprint/T-Mobile same situation as the P7P, and the 4 is Verizon locked and they said they dont even have it in their system, so yet again no way for me to get it unlocked.
I'm going out on a limb and gonna say there is likely no way to get these unlocked right now but if anyone see's this and knows of a way to convice these people at these companies to unlock the phones let me know cause as of right now i think it is impossible to get the phones unlocked via an unlock service or a program
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It seems that if you are interested & fine with getting 3rd party second-hand devices, places like Swappa.com is a great place to purchase that you can be sure is global unlocked/no-carrier-variant and has checks/redundancies/ways-of-confirming that the device being sold is legit; if anything you should be able to message the seller and ask for the IMEI so you can check with all the carriers to see if the device is free and clear in their systems...
If this is where you bought your devices and/or you know of this place, you can please disregard the suggestion

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