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Well i am very confused whether our phone has a light sensor or not. In the official user manual of I5801 (English-India), at page number 17, its clearly stated that the left one of the two sensors on top left side of our phone is proximity sensor and the right one is light sensor. If there is one, then why is there not any option for automatic brightness? and what its use is? And if its not there, then why is it given in the User's manual ?
Does anyone have any information on this at all? Was/is there any rom that supported automatic brighness via the light sensor?
So why isn't it included in Samsung' Stock Rom ?
Do you think really that no-one ever try to use it .
nishant_713 said:
Well i am very confused whether our phone has a light sensor or not. In the official user manual of I5801 (English-India), at page number 17, its clearly stated that the left one of the two sensors on top left side of our phone is proximity sensor and the right one is light sensor. If there is one, then why is there not any option for automatic brightness? and what its use is? And if its not there, then why is it given in the User's manual ?
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There is no light sensor on Galaxy I5800/5801. The proximity sensor is actually a pair of sensors, one sends an electromagnetic/Infrared radiation while the other one is to receive it back for the sensor to get activated.
nsm1234 said:
There is no light sensor on Galaxy I5800/5801. The proximity sensor is actually a pair of sensors, one sends an electromagnetic/Infrared radiation while the other one is to receive it back for the sensor to get activated.
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Wow, this is kinda shocking news!
Hello everybody!
Recently i bought one Motorola Photon Q and I found one weird problem with my Photon Q.
I cannot regulate the screen's backlight. When it is on 100% it is very bright, but anything below this point (in example 99% or 50%) it goes very dimmed. So, basically I have two levels of backlight. Minimum and maximum. Nothing in the middle.
I tried to regulate it from the recovery mode, but issue stays the same.
Phone already had TWRP and CM 13.
Any ideas what can I do about it?
Regards.
Wow you joined in September 2008 and this is your first post?
Congrats!!
As for the issue, it almost sounds hardware related. Like someone swapped the proximity sensor for the ambient light sensor... If the issue persists in recovery, I'm not sure flashing stock would do you any favors (not that you would want stock, it would just rule out any low-level software issues if you flash thru RSD Lite).
Yes yes, I know. There was nothing I could give from my side. Just usual user.
Changing the sensor? But does it have anything in common, while backlight sensivity is chosen manually?
I'll try to flash it by RSD lite.
Thanks.
MarioK15 said:
Changing the sensor? But does it have anything in common, while backlight sensivity is chosen manually?
I'll try to flash it by RSD lite.
Thanks.
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Honestly was just firing off the hip based on you description - it sounds hardware related not software, especially since it persists in recovery...
To rule out software entirely, RSD Lite is the best way IMHO. Good luck.
Assuming it is a hardware issue... I'm not sure replacing that sensor is worth the effort. I guess it depends on your desire (and ability) to get this old PQ working properly
It might be the hardware problem. I installed some application to check sensors, and it does not detect proximity sensor.
I was wondering about dismounting this sensor, but probably it would not help at all.
Hello,
I’m using the Xperia 5 since this Wednesday (for two days).
My overall experience with phone is mostly good (for most parts of using even perfect). Unfortunately, these nice words do not apply for the fingerprint sensor.
It usually takes 2-5 tries to unlock the phone, sometimes I can’t even open the phone with the fingerprint scanner at all. (The error messages are: Not recognized; could not process fingerprint, please try again. Sometimes it says something with "partial fingerprint").
I tried rebooting recalibrating the fingerprint with the wizard then rebooting again. Nothing seems to help. I know this doesn’t have to be eventually a defect or something. Fyi, my thumb is not moist or oily, same thing applies for the reader. Maybe my thumb is just too wide, I don’t know.
What’s your overall experience?
Jakub
Same experience. Worst fingerprint reader I've used.
Same here, IMHO the worst fingerprint sensor I've ever used on a device.
googam said:
Hello,
I’m using the Xperia 5 since this Wednesday (for two days).
My overall experience with phone is mostly good (for most parts of using even perfect). Unfortunately, these nice words do not apply for the fingerprint sensor.
It usually takes 2-5 tries to unlock the phone, sometimes I can’t even open the phone with the fingerprint scanner at all. (The error messages are: Not recognized; could not process fingerprint, please try again. Sometimes it says something with "partial fingerprint").
I tried rebooting recalibrating the fingerprint with the wizard then rebooting again. Nothing seems to help. I know this doesn’t have to be eventually a defect or something. Fyi, my thumb is not moist or oily, same thing applies for the reader. Maybe my thumb is just too wide, I don’t know.
What’s your overall experience?
Jakub
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I got it working but putting my finger along the side of it and not by using the thumb having the finger pointing out from the phone.
Mine works almost every time now.
But it is indeed not the best scanner.
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
japkoslav said:
Same here, IMHO the worst fingerprint sensor I've ever used on a device.
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So, you didn't use Z5 series. That was the worst fingerprint sensor. Fingerprint sensor didn't work more than it worked. This one on 5 is better but not good. Sometimes it doesn't work at all.
I have the same issue as well, as do many others evident from Sony Forums however the FPS works fine Banking apps, website logins etc
tomo100brt said:
So, you didn't use Z5 series. That was the worst fingerprint sensor. Fingerprint sensor didn't work more than it worked. This one on 5 is better but not good. Sometimes it doesn't work at all.
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I didn't use a Sony phone with fingerprint sensor before
I am kinda used to finger print sensor being 99,99% accurate and reliable (iPad, Meizu, Nokia, LG, Samsung, Asus, Xiaomi etc.) so that's why I am surprised it can implemented so poorly. :silly:
Honestly after 2 weeks with this phone, I'm beginning to question whether it has a fingerprint scanner at all. Feel like I may as well just remove my fingerprints and forget it exists.
Tricky547 said:
Honestly after 2 weeks with this phone, I'm beginning to question whether it has a fingerprint scanner at all. Feel like I may as well just remove my fingerprints and forget it exists.
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I sold mine last week, of same reasons. Useless fp, might as well be non existent.
I had to retrain myself with how to use the finger print scanner. With other phones, I'm used to using the tip of my finger, but that doesn't work with this scanner. As HellRoot describes above, I now lay the flat part of my finger against the scanner so that my finger is parallel to the phone (not pointing at an angle). Now I can get it to work very reliably.
thsieh said:
I had to retrain myself with how to use the finger print scanner. With other phones, I'm used to using the tip of my finger, but that doesn't work with this scanner. As HellRoot describes above, I now lay the flat part of my finger against the scanner so that my finger is parallel to the phone (not pointing at an angle). Now I can get it to work very reliably.
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Sadly not working for me at all.
Not to mention I encountered "flip case" bug when the phone is refusing to accept touch screen input to take a call.
This "Sony experience" is much more frustrating than I ever expected and that comes from a guy that used LG V30 for 2 years.
If they do not fix software issues with Android 10 update, I will seriously give it to my mom or wife and buy a propper phone.
My FP sensor worked perfectly for two weeks, I did not get a single "Partial FP detected" and was wondering what's with the bad press.
Then, gradually over the course of a day, it's started playing up. Now I'm in line with everyone else, frustrating experience at less than 20% hit rate. Android 9 or 10 doesn't seem to make a difference, tried factory resetting etc.
Checking the Service Menu (*#*#7378423#*#* from the Dialler --> Service Tests --> Fingerprint Test) returns the following:
Fingerprint Sensor Status:
Sensor not OK
Sensor HWID:
0x0603
I can't seem to find more information on this error code, contacting Sony has returned the typical "Are you running the latest software?" and "Have you tried restarting your device?"
vlad_kfv said:
My FP sensor worked perfectly for two weeks, I did not get a single "Partial FP detected" and was wondering what's with the bad press.
Then, gradually over the course of a day, it's started playing up. Now I'm in line with everyone else, frustrating experience at less than 20% hit rate. Android 9 or 10 doesn't seem to make a difference, tried factory resetting etc.
Checking the Service Menu (*#*#7378423#*#* from the Dialler --> Service Tests --> Fingerprint Test) returns the following:
Fingerprint Sensor Status:
Sensor not OK
Sensor HWID:
0x0603
I can't seem to find more information on this error code, contacting Sony has returned the typical "Are you running the latest software?" and "Have you tried restarting your device?"
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Right you are! Mine says the same. Has this been posted on the Sony forums?
vlad_kfv said:
My FP sensor worked perfectly for two weeks, I did not get a single "Partial FP detected" and was wondering what's with the bad press.
Then, gradually over the course of a day, it's started playing up. Now I'm in line with everyone else, frustrating experience at less than 20% hit rate. Android 9 or 10 doesn't seem to make a difference, tried factory resetting etc.
Checking the Service Menu (*#*#7378423#*#* from the Dialler --> Service Tests --> Fingerprint Test) returns the following:
Fingerprint Sensor Status:
Sensor not OK
Sensor HWID:
0x0603
I can't seem to find more information on this error code, contacting Sony has returned the typical "Are you running the latest software?" and "Have you tried restarting your device?"
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I just got mine yesterday, pretty much everything work perfectly except for the fingerprint, and mine also show the same Service Tests info as yours.
When I scan my finger, it usually register only at certain angle, and usually only at my 2nd press on the scanner, which is quite frustrating
I really wonder if this is a software bug or hardware problem so I can have the store replace a new one.
thatguy222 said:
Right you are! Mine says the same. Has this been posted on the Sony forums?
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Thanks, that's a good point :highfive:
I just raised it on the Xperia Support Forum, fingers crossed it gets enough traction for Sony to look into it!
japkoslav said:
I will seriously give it to my mom or wife and buy a propper phone.
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You must be hating your mom and wife with a passion
yekollu said:
You must be hating your mom and wife with a passion
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Thank you It made my day.
But seriously they do not mind to use not so reliable devices. Xperia 5 is still an upgrade for Xiaomi Note 4 or Asus M1 Pro user.
palkia171993 said:
I just got mine yesterday, pretty much everything work perfectly except for the fingerprint, and mine also show the same Service Tests info as yours.
When I scan my finger, it usually register only at certain angle, and usually only at my 2nd press on the scanner, which is quite frustrating
I really wonder if this is a software bug or hardware problem so I can have the store replace a new one.
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It appears to be Software. I have issues only with unlocking the screen. The Banking apps seem to work fine (for now)
yekollu said:
It appears to be Software. I have issues only with unlocking the screen. The Banking apps seem to work fine (for now)
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That's good to hear. I suspect so too because the service tests show everything was fine when I first bought the phone (it was running Pie at the time) and I started upgrading to Q soon afterward. And it was the 2nd day after I upgraded to Q that I notice the service test "Not OK" info.
Hope it can be fixed in the near future update and off topic: hope that update will also include patch for third party launcher to work with Q's Gesture (my most annoyed thing about Q)
Edit: After a few days using it, I realize it recognize the finger really well at certain angles. It never scans well with full finger but almost never miss when I use my finger tip or side. So I guess I can live with it for now. But still hope for improvement soon.
Well, other Xperias like XZ2, XZ3, XZP just got updated to 10 recently. And, all I've seen so far are complaints about 2 things: no swipe gesture (because the stock launcher hasn't been updated, which is rather stupid) and fingerprint on those devices all become less responsive. It took many times pressing to work, which sounds just like our problem.
So I guess this is a software based problem from Sony's side. Maybe some bad fingerprint driver I guess. Anyway, hope Sony is aware of this and get it fix soon with December security update (also hope for third party launcher patch too)
Open the dialer app, and type *#*#7378423#*#* to open the Service Menu, from there go to Service Tests and scroll down until you find Fingerprint test.
Please post the results here with your device model number (J8110, J9110, J8170), device build number (55.x.x.x.x), age of your device and whether or not you have issues with the fingerprint scanner.
Trying to figure out a pattern and it seems like XDA is more active (in comparison) than other forums for Sony devices.
Thanks.
J9110 flashed with J8170.
On 55.0.A.10.26 (pie), used to say "PASS"
On latest 55.1.A.0.748, now says fail. but fingerprint sensor works fine.
I'm guessing it's just a software issue.
iArvee said:
J9110 flashed with J8170.
On 55.0.A.10.26 (pie), used to say "PASS"
On latest 55.1.A.0.748, now says fail. but fingerprint sensor works fine.
I'm guessing it's just a software issue.
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Yeah I wish I had more time to test on Pie but I upgraded to 10 almost immediately and the fingerprint has been hit or miss from the start, but for the past day it's been quite bad.
Now it won't unlock unless I completely wipe down the sensor and make sure it's 100% clean, after which it unlocks just fine, but after that it won't unlock till I clean it again.
Quite frustrating, but judging from what I've read, it seems like Sony messed up big time with the Android 10 update for the X1, so I can imagine me and many others are eagerly waiting for a new update.
By the way, do you have any issues on a 'converted' device? Anything not working as intended? And do OTA updates work or do you have to flash every new build manually?
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Yeah I wish I had more time to test on Pie but I upgraded to 10 almost immediately and the fingerprint has been hit or miss from the start, but for the past day it's been quite bad.
Now it won't unlock unless I completely wipe down the sensor and make sure it's 100% clean, after which it unlocks just fine, but after that it won't unlock till I clean it again.
Quite frustrating, but judging from what I've read, it seems like Sony messed up big time with the Android 10 update for the X1, so I can imagine me and many others are eagerly waiting for a new update.
By the way, do you have any issues on a 'converted' device? Anything not working as intended? And do OTA updates work or do you have to flash every new build manually?
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It works 90% of the time for me. Especially after I "trained" the fingerprint sensor. Basically open up the fingerprint settings, then constantly tap your finger, moving your finger slightly with each tap to cover your whole thumb.
IMO the update is fine! Well at least for me. I did a software reset after updating.
OTA updates fine Haven't tested out the dual sim, but I'm assuming it won't work. The only time I had to flash a new build was when I updated from Pie to 10, because I usually do a full wipe during a major update.
I'm using J9110 with latest stock EU firmware. The sensor does not work at all. Even weirder, there is no option to test the sensor in service menu and I cannot find fingerprint scanner in device options. Out of the box the sensor worked great, but gradually started failing after 1 year of use.
Update: I took some screenshots and compared them to other Sony device with working FPS - there is clearly something fishy going on.
The third screenshot is what happens when I launch Fingerprint Manager with Activity Launcher app and try to register a new fingerprint.
@kot5nik exact same issue, mine is entirely missing. Worked at first, gradually started breaking and was intermittent in functionality, then just gone.
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@kot5nik exact same issue, mine is entirely missing. Worked at first, gradually started breaking and was intermittent in functionality, then just gone.
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Same thing as mine, it is completely dead and no longer works.
Already try repair with sony companion but nothing work
@kot5nik exact same issue
J9110
build 55.1.A.9.127
Worked perfect for 11 months then all the FPS manager simply disappeared suddenly 2 days ago...
Can't test it in Service menu as it's no longer there
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@kot5nik exact same issue
J9110
build 55.1.A.9.127
Worked perfect for 11 months then all the FPS manager simply disappeared suddenly 2 days ago...
Can't test it in Service menu as it's no longer there
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You update to 11? Otherwise I think you backup and flash with 12.28 to get it back.
problem is same, fingerprint menu is gone.
J9110
build 55.1.A.12.28
anyone solved this problem? please share ..
Since new firmware 55.2.A.4.47, fingerprint works for 1hour, then just start detecting ton of wrong prints even without finger on the sensor, and shut down completely until the phone is restarted. FingerprintTest showing "NOT OK" at this time. FingerprintTest showing OK after a restart.
I'm so sad I'm not able to get Flashtool working to go back to previous firmware. The fingerprint was working really great for the last 10 months (first months were really hit or miss tho).
if u are on Android 11 now u can't downgrade to Android 10 anymore...u can but it's not working well anymore.!
i tried many times going back to Android 9 after updated to Android 10.
after flashing older Android 9 fw Gyroscope sensor isn't working anymore on lower version of Android
I succeed to revert back to Android 10, but it didn't solve the issue with the fingerprint. If you got some issue with another sensor, I will guess that the "drivers" for the sensor can be changed by an update but are not rolled back correctly, thus the creating issue or not solving mine since the faulty "driver" for the FP reader stay the same.
After a day of not even having the fingerprint management in the security options, Support asked me to do a forced reboot (volume up + power) to see if it solves momentarily the reader, there is a well known issue and they are working on a fix. It did solve the issue momentarily so I guess my FP reader is not completely dead (it was my conclusion seing it was still an issue once reverted to Android10) and I just have to wait for a fix.
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You update to 11? Otherwise I think you backup and flash with 12.28 to get it back.
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Sorry for really late answer. Yes I updated to 11 right after it came out.
To prove the theory of update bricking it I bought a replacement sensor from AliExpress (when it arrived, it was clearly a new one, in OEM packaging) and it didn't work either.
In the process of replacement I accidentally broke the screen (because was really hard to replace, at least with my experience, way harder than battery, motherboard, etc.). So I really don't recommend trying this to anyone.
Now there is no point to downgrading, heh.
And no, on 11 firmware shutting the phone down completely or force reboot does not help. I tried everything I could before going for replacement, including full data wipe and disconnecting the battery with inside connector for some time.
Been having the same issue but I can get the fingerprint sensor to work sometimes after booting into safe mode and then booting normally, read that from another post somewhere but can't seem to find it. Mine also keeps disconnecting from LTE and drops to H+ and has been doing that a lot recently I hope that they will update some of this soon getting pretty frustrated with it, any of you been seeing that in addition to the fingerprint issue?
My fingeprint sensor on XPERIA 1 is there in menu but it is not working at all. Can't recognize my finger at all. Resset didn't help as well as restart to safe mode. I gess it is dead. Or is there something else wrong?
The fingerprint on my Xperia 1 is notice with "Could not read fingerprint", because "Fingerprint enrollment time limit reached" (like image attached)
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The fingerprint on my Xperia 1 is notice with "Could not read fingerprint", because "Fingerprint enrollment time limit reached" (like image attached)
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Same issue, tomorrow I'll send the phone to a xperia repair center to see if it is a hardware or software problem
Elysiumx said:
Same issue, tomorrow I'll send the phone to a xperia repair center to see if it is a hardware or software problem
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So, the warranty on mine was over and they asked me 335 euro for "REPLACEMENT FRONT COVER WITH FINGERPRINT READER" (also change the internal fingerprint reader module)
According to them so it is a hardware problem, but at that price certainly not worth it to repair it.
Hi there!
First off: I used the search, but am not confident I haven't overlooked something.
If so I'm sorry!
I have a google pixel with lineage-for-microg, whose battery I had replaced some months ago.
Afterwards I wanted to reflash stock android to start afresh and then reflash lineage.
I'm back on lineage 17 (derived from Android10) and have the following problem:
During calls the microphone in speaker mode doesn't work at all, meaning, the person on the other side doesn't here a thing.
The same happens for speaker calls in other apps.
What still works, is audio in videos I take with the camera.
Also the ambient light sensor seems to have stopped working as the automatic luminosity doesn't work and I have to set the light by hand.
And then the proximity sensor during calls doesn't work.
I'd like to fix these and therefore I would like to find out, whether it is more probably a software or a hardware problem.
I found on this forum that it may have to do with the persist.img, that may have been corrupted by twrp.
Unfortunately I don't know where to get a hopefully working persist.img to try that out.
Things that are maybe relevant are these:
1. The battery was changed, so maybe the engineer doing that broke something
2. During reinstallation of lineage17 I had some problem with twrp not working. Afterwards using lineage recovery worked for installing lineage, but I'm not sure, twrp might have broken something.
3. The same issue also is there on stock android 10.
Can anyone point me in some direction?
I realized that the easiest check for software/hardware distinction would be to just flash a new persist.img.
Is anybody out there, that has a pixel sailfish device with working android 10 that would drop me a message? I should be able to just transplant your persist.img to my pixel sailfish.
I would greatly appreciate it!
Edit: Sorry, I misread your post. You're having microphone issues and not speaker issues. Don't have much advice.
In my experience the proximity sensor and ambient light sensor on Pixel XL's never fail. I've repaired dozens and never seen it.
Bongzerker said:
Edit: Sorry, I misread your post. You're having microphone issues and not speaker issues. Don't have much advice.
In my experience the proximity sensor and ambient light sensor on Pixel XL's never fail. I've repaired dozens and never seen it.
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Nonetheless, thanks for your time!
If I may ask for even more of it:
Not sure, whether Pixel XL and Pixel are similar when it comes to their hardware ( I have a Pixel, not a Pixel XL), but if you have repaired many of them, do you think it is at all possible, that the hardware shop that changed my battery somehow broke these sensors or forgot to reattach a cable to them?
I don't plan to hold them accountable, as I really like them, just would like to have a hint, whether going to the hassle of bringing my phone there and thus not having it for a few days has a reasonable chance of success.