Related
I have an Ascend Mate 2 4G LTE with Snapdragon 400 (MT2-L03), and the Android version of Civilization Revolution 2 crashes constantly. Based on the reviews in the PlayStore, it seems like this game requires at least a Snapdragon 800 processor (or equivalent) to run consistently. Lately, I've been thinking about upgrading to the Ascend Mate 7. Does anyone know if Civ Rev 2 will run on the MT7-L09?
Zagzagel said:
I have an Ascend Mate 2 4G LTE with Snapdragon 400 (MT2-L03), and the Android version of Civilization Revolution 2 crashes constantly. Based on the reviews in the PlayStore, it seems like this game requires at least a Snapdragon 800 processor (or equivalent) to run consistently. Lately, I've been thinking about upgrading to the Ascend Mate 7. Does anyone know if Civ Rev 2 will run on the MT7-L09?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No chance..
I just tried that game on Mate 7-L09 and its run ok, here and there you can se some FPS drop, but all i all it runs great. MT7 have very good procesing power, downside is GPU, so our CPU is in level of Snapdragon 800/801 acording to benchmark results, but Adreno is more powerfull than our Mali T628 gpu.
Kirin 970 SoC Announced
Huawei just shared details about the new Kirin 970 chipset. As you know, the Honor 9 is equipped with the Kirin 960 and the performance on this phone is fantastic. So whats new with this new chip?
Internal tests show this performance capability allows the Kirin 970 to process 2005 images per minute, which is up from 97 images per minute without the NPU. The new chipset from Huawei is similar to the previous Kirin 960 but sporting higher frequencies, being an eight-core SoC with four being Cortex-A73 cores clocked at 2.40 GHz and the other four being Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.80 GHz. The GPU Huawei has chosen to go with is the newer ARM Mali-G72MP12, but the company has yet to announce its clock speed.
They did, however, confirm it will have a dual ISP, but again, didn’t go into detail about its performance. It will be equipped with the Kirin 970 Integrated LTE modem (a Category 18 modem) with download capabilities of 1.2Gbps. The last bit of information that was announced at IFA this year was that it would be built on a 10nm process from TSMC. The company normally has big press events for their new chips, and since that wasn’t the case at IFA, it is likely why they didn’t reveal any more details about it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If Honor makes an "Honor 9 Pro" I have a feeling we will being seeing this new chip in this device.
Source
Sounds great!
Now let's release a worldwide Honor 9 pro and it may just be my next phone ?
DrGreenway said:
Kirin 970 SoC Announced
Huawei just shared details about the new Kirin 970 chipset. As you know, the Honor 9 is equipped with the Kirin 960 and the performance on this phone is fantastic. So whats new with this new chip?
If Honor makes an "Honor 9 Pro" I have a feeling we will being seeing this new chip in this device.
Source
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tiguy99 said:
Sounds great!
Now let's release a worldwide Honor 9 pro and it may just be my next phone ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honor 9 pro may delay ther is no sign of news , mate 10 is the first device to get the 970 soc.
Huawei's HiSilicon Kirin range of SOCs are getting better and better with each iteration.
iceepyon said:
Huawei's HiSilicon Kirin range of SOCs are getting better and better with each iteration.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dream one day it will overcome the Snapdragon ,lol may be:silly:
venugopalu007 said:
I dream one day it will overcome the Snapdragon ,lol may be:silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In some aspects the Kirin 960 does best the SD830
iceepyon said:
In some aspects the Kirin 960 does best the SD830
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are almost identical.
venugopalu007 said:
They are almost identical.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
According to a video by Gary Sims from Android Authority the Kirin 960 does best the SD 830 in some aspects.
iceepyon said:
According to a video by Gary Sims from Android Authority the Kirin 960 does best the SD 830 in some aspects.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kirin opens the apps really faster .
Snapdragon 830 exists??
This one's a monster.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
10nm chipset i think this holds battery well.
venugopalu007 said:
Kirin opens the apps really faster .
Snapdragon 830 exists??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, it's used in the US version of the SGS8 series and other current flagship devices.
iceepyon said:
Yeah, it's used in the US version of the SGS8 series and other current flagship devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, Galaxy S8 US uses snapdragon 835, there isn't a Snapdragon 830
Also the Kiron 970 have 5 billion transistors while the SD835 have 2.5 billion.
venugopalu007 said:
10nm chipset i think this holds battery well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also it is smaller.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
iceepyon said:
Yeah, it's used in the US version of the SGS8 series and other current flagship devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No there is no sign of 830 , I searched .
There's none. It didn't exist.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
venugopalu007 said:
No there is no sign of 830 , I searched .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot the SD830 was cancelled and replaced with the SD835 for some strange reason... :silly:
iceepyon said:
I forgot the SD830 was cancelled and replaced with the SD835 for some strange reason... :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I rember when a phone benchmarked with SD830 back in January, it may got cancelled or renamed to 835
PalakMi said:
I rember when a phone benchmarked with SD830 back in January, it may got cancelled or renamed to 835
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do know that the US variant of the SGS8 was suppose to be the 1st device released with the SD830. I have no idea why they used the SD835 instead.
iceepyon said:
I do know that the US variant of the SGS8 was suppose to be the 1st device released with the SD830. I have no idea why they used the SD835 instead.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They may renamed it, since both SoCs use the same config
Hi, i am using honor 6x. It's a good phone to use but i saw my friend porting pixel 2 camera on his mia1 and it has enhanced his camera capabilities to top. Since it's a Snapdragon processor, it's easy for him to port. I have been looking over the web but couldn't find any port for the Huawei based roms i.e. for the kirin processors. Is there a mod available for us?
None... Not possible for kirin
Hi all,
I have a Huawei Honor 9. Recently replaced it's battery and still find that the phone in general has poor performance nowadays and not great battery life either.
The device currently runs android 9 on Huawei's EMUI v9.1.0 9.1.0.210 Android security patch 5 July 2019.
Please can you help me figure out if running a custom rom here makes sense, will get me any benefits and let's move from there?!
@renegadeandy Did you already check in the device forum?
Honor 9
The Honor 9 was announced June 2017 as the successor to the Honor 8. The 5.15" screen has a resolution of 1080 x 1920 pixels. The Kirin 960 chipset has an octa-core (4x2.4 GHz Cortex-A73 & 4x1.8 GHz Cortex-A53) CPU and a mali-G71 MP8 GPU. This phone comes with 4GB and 6GB RAM options, with 64GB...
forum.xda-developers.com
Oswald Boelcke said:
@renegadeandy Did you already check in the device forum?
Honor 9
The Honor 9 was announced June 2017 as the successor to the Honor 8. The 5.15" screen has a resolution of 1080 x 1920 pixels. The Kirin 960 chipset has an octa-core (4x2.4 GHz Cortex-A73 & 4x1.8 GHz Cortex-A53) CPU and a mali-G71 MP8 GPU. This phone comes with 4GB and 6GB RAM options, with 64GB...
forum.xda-developers.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good idea i've taken a look but its not a ugely active looking community around the device and doubt ill get quick respnses. Which options do i have? doeshttps://forum.xda-developers.com/f/honor-9-roms-kernels-recoveries-other-develo.6538/nt summarise todays best options?
renegadeandy said:
Good idea i've taken a look but its not a ugely active looking community around the device and doubt ill get quick respnses.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I don't know the device. And it seems to be slightly older. Probably, therefore the community isn't too active. Just have a look in the development section.
@jerryhou85 Sir, do you have a recommendation for our member?
I use to own a Honor 6 and I'd say not many custom ROMs for overseas versions, there are still some Chinese custom ROM for local model number, but I doubt they are working well on overseas models.
Guess it is time to move on...
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
xXx yYy said:
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot for your clarification
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what? Mediatek G35 is a arm64 chip so you should able to run 64bit game
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
Guan Yu said:
Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
Grecco 22 said:
So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
Well the OP's phone probably have a arm64 chipset but 32 bit software, because in that case all apps that list phone specs will recognise it as 32 bit phone.
As I know, Redmi 9C uses MediaTek Helio G35 chipset. Inside the MediaTek Helio G35 is a 64-bit octa-core Arm Cortex-A53 CPU.
The mentioned phone has a 64-bit SoC, means it can process ARMv8-2.A instruction set.
But: Whether a phone's Android OS runs in 32-bit or 64-bit mode is determined by phone's Android kernel at boottime - the kernel is the 1st thing what gets loaded by device's bootloader.
Guan Yu said:
can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A more in depth info:
---------Device---------
Device name: Redmi 9C
Model: M2006C3MG
Manufacturer: Xiaomi
Device: angelica
Board: angelica
Hardware: mt6765
Brand: Redmi
---------System---------
Version name: Android 10 Q
Kernel architecture: armv8l
Kernel version: 268 MB
---------CPU---------
Hardware: MT6765G
Cores: 8
CPU frequency: 400MHz - 2301MHz
Core 1: 1750 Mhz
Core 2: 1750 Mhz
Core 3: 1750 Mhz
Core 4: 1750 Mhz
Core 5: 1800 Mhz
Core 6: 1800 Mhz
Core 7: 1800 Mhz
Core 8: 1800 Mhz
SOC: Mediatek Helio G35
Processor: AArch64 Processor rev 4 (aarch64)
Supported ABIs: armeabi-v7a, armeabi
CPU hardware: MT6765G
CPU governor: Unknown
GPU renderer: PowerVR Rogue GE8320
GPU vendor: Imagination Technologies
GPU version: OpenGL ES-CM 1.1
When will you take notice of fact that only 32-bit ( ARMEABI-v7a ) apps/services are supported though SoC is 64-bit capable? If you want to have true 64-bit support then you have to replace device's Android kernel by a kernel what supports 64-bit processing - and also the Android OS by a 64-bit one.
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
.
Grecco 22 said:
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
Guan Yu said:
it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
ardwivedi16 said:
Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Regrettable their approaching
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
Guan Yu said:
It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be honest I did wanted to know this phone specs before I was buying it.
But after confirming so many other (at least to me) important features of this device model such as RAM memory, storage and it's processor, I not even gave much attention to the architecture of it, thinking that it would be obviously running both a 64bit/32bit architecture, therefore being able to run such games.
Maybe I'm not the only one who owns a device like this hoping who knows some day someone coming up with a 'magical rom solution' to it.
(the kernel stuff)
At last, I have no complain about the rest of the device capabilities which are marvelous.
I was getting ready to root it if it was the condition to make it capable of running 64bits applications.
If there's no such rom, I will try to keep it unrooted as long as I can bear MIUI and an unrooted Android.
I'm learning...