Surprised how little development is going on for this phone. Not even an official lineage Os. Is it too early in the phones life? Or are people content with the os that comes on the phone?
There are builds all right...just not been shared here. I believe they will soon enough. In the meantime...there are other places to search for ROMs rather then here.
Just sayin'....
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I think we should have them. Roms get daily/weekly updates and I don't understand why we shouldn't discuss pros and cons of different roms every now and then.
Me, for instance would never flash coindroid without these threads. I'm loving it to bits. If a better rom comes around I'd like to be aware of it.
What is wrong with knowing that coindroid's standby battery consumption is 50ma vs revolution's 90ma before flashing both?
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I think we should have them. Roms get daily/weekly updates and I don't understand why we shouldn't discuss pros and cons of different roms every now and then.
Me, for instance would never flash coindroid without these threads. I'm loving it to bits. If a better rom comes around I'd like to be aware of it.
What is wrong with knowing that coindroid's standby battery consumption is 50ma vs revolution's 90ma before flashing both?
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I understand your intentions with this post, to be completely honest. You've got a good initiative for bringing the everyday "flashers" as you might call them, into the loop without reading about the specific daily updates on each of the countless ROMs on this site.
The problem lies in synchronization with every other thread. If the OP of CoinDroid, for example, posts his updates on the original development thread, then what's his incentive for also posting on this new thread? If someone else did it for him in a quick little blurb, that's fine, but then there could be misinformation spread and not even necessarily the latest updates. Someone would have to go through every thread, every day, and update this new one after that.
Another issue with a thread like this is that most of them venture into the realm of opinion, which is great for everyone in gaining a general consensus opinion on an awesome ROM (ARHD), but awful for discerning any actual facts. It's just people stating the pros and cons through their eyes in a cluttered manner on one thread. If we wanted that, we could just go look at all the countless other threads that go through this same routine. Hell, the people making the opinions could be running a very old version of the ROM that feels stable anyway, with a custom kernel and any other number of mods. That means their opinion says nothing about the current state of the ROM.
ROMs don't get that drastic of a change of a nightly basis. Plus, it's not really necessary to have a thread that says "This one is best" or "I like this one because..." simply because there are so many threads that previously address this. Feel free to start them (it's a forum, after all), but don't expect replies every time. I just think what you're proposing is far too lofty for a forum
I heard over on Android Authority that Samsung has release its JellyBean source code for the i1900. I know our phones have a different processor, so it's not going to work on our phones, but given that they share at least a name, should I be hopeful that there could be some goodness in there to help move our Skyrocket's along with JellyBean (e.g. CyanogenMod 10.1), or even hopes of an official JellyBean release from Samsung?
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-releases-android-jelly-bean-source-code-galaxy-s2-137715/
There is already a Samsung JB leak in Development forum, you should have taken a look there.
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I heard over on Android Authority that Samsung has release its JellyBean source code for the i1900. I know our phones have a different processor, so it's not going to work on our phones, but given that they share at least a name, should I be hopeful that there could be some goodness in there to help move our Skyrocket's along with JellyBean (e.g. CyanogenMod 10.1), or even hopes of an official JellyBean release from Samsung?
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-releases-android-jelly-bean-source-code-galaxy-s2-137715/
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Do you read any of our threads before posting useless new threads?
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Should have done a search? I did, thanks. Searched for "jelly bean source". No hits. So I posted.
And a leaked *compiled* ROM does not equal source. Now it does answer my question about the Skyrocket getting Jelly Bean, and further implies there will eventually be a source delivery. That does not mean that the regular S2 Jelly Bean source available now can't offer a more immediate impact.
Also note that the UCLK4 thread in the development forum is slightly over one day old as of now. At the time I posted this thread, it was about 12 hours old. And the one in the General section was started after.
In fact, I saw the S2 news at AA much earlier yesterday but decided to wait to ask so others with more knowledge and experience could preemptively answer my question. But, via my search, I didn't find my answer.
So, yes, I agree my thread is now irrelevant. But at the time, it was hardly as clear as the smug replies in this thread suggest.
Sorry for my rudeness in response to yours. I know you guys have to put up with a lot of newbs. But the robotic and condescending dismissals are just as annoying to see over and over again, especially after I *did* do my due diligence.
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I didn't mean anything harsh in my reply, but answered half of your question, a half that seemed to me the most important one (our phone having official Samsung JB).
To answer one more thing: the sources are good for some things, namely if your goal is to patch the new kernel to the old driver binaries (the kind of work that's necessary for old and non-supported phones to run the latest OS found on their latest siblings with the same chipset) - but if your goal is to run the full OS with official latest drivers that it's built to run with, without precompiled binaries the source is good for nothing. And the patching work is futile if the official release is a month-two away.
Hello all,
I've been visiting XDA since the first android phones. And I love seeing all the development made for phones. [MOD]s, [KERNEL]s and fixes/tweaks interest me. The trouble is, they get completely buried under threads about re-skinned stock/ CM / AOKP roms with a different kernel strapped underneath, and given a name containing "jelly", a biblical term, or a word describing speed. Most of these roms don't contribute actual development, and although they are nice for beginners or people who cant spend a day without flashing their phone. I don't care about them, and they obscure the actual development that is happening at XDA.
Is there a proper way of removing threads containing the [ROM] tag from XDA?
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Hello all,
I've been visiting XDA since the first android phones. And I love seeing all the development made for phones. [MOD]s, [KERNEL]s and fixes/tweaks interest me. The trouble is, they get completely buried under threads about re-skinned stock/ CM / AOKP roms with a different kernel strapped underneath, and given a name containing "jelly", a biblical term, or a word describing speed. Most of these roms don't contribute actual development, and although they are nice for beginners or people who cant spend a day without flashing their phone. I don't care about them, and they obscure the actual development that is happening at XDA.
Is there a proper way of removing threads containing the [ROM] tag from XDA?
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Well the [ROM] tag is to differentiate it from a kernel, mod, recovery etc. and doesn't imply that it's any more than a compiled CM base with just a theme add-on.
I understand your frustration completely, but people have to get started somewhere don't they? And the ones that have the most replies, i.e. most popular, tend to stay near the top of the forum anyways.
It would be rather arbitrary I think to take off that tag or tell someone their ROM was not "real" because they just compiled CM and added someone else's kernel and themed it a bit, because technically it IS a custom ROM. What you might do to help that specific chef is post suggestions in his ROM for how to better improve it, and browsing through the various ROMs doesn't take all that long does it? I mean I use Nexus devices, so you know how many ROMs I have to choose from.
I can appreciate where you're coming from, but a custom ROM is a custom ROM, no matter how heavily or lightly modified it is, and to now infer something isn't modified enough from Source to be labeled [ROM] is too much a gray area I think to adequately and fairly decide.
That was my observation too, the more popular the item, the better chance it'll be near the top of the list.
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Okay, deferring to the wisdom of the elders on this question. I've been all over the place with ROMs, TW and AOSP, but I'm heading to college in a few weeks and I'm looking to "settle down" with a ROM and ride it out until my upgrade in November. Is there a clear winner out there right now in terms of stability/battery life that still has some cool features? I'm very minimalistic and I don't need to be able to customize every single facet of the UI, but rooted stock is a bit too dull for me! I'm on CleanRom 8.2 atm and it's good but not great, I'm really looking for the ultimate daily driver ROM and kernel, please advise a lowly serf such as myself.
I don't believe the rules of XDA allow a "what is the best ROM" thread, so you may not get a simple answer (and to be honest, people have different priorities in what they want or need from a ROM, so what may be best for them may not be best for you).
That said, perhaps the best approach would be to look through the Android Development and Original Android Development topics and look at both the early posts (the OP, plus a page or two after), and the last page or two to get an sense of the install, the features, and the level of support you might get with each ROM. You will also be able to eliminate ROM's that are no longer supported (eg, I believe Scott is no longer supporting CR, so even though it was/is a great ROM, perhaps not the best to consider).
Also google the ROMs to see if there are any YouTubes showing the install and use of the ROM. There are many good reviews of ROMs and seeing them in action is a big help.
Last, a number of ROMs are being discussed on Google+ so you may want to check out that resource too.
And, it may also be a good idea to actually try the ROMs on your phone. ROMs can act differently on your phone than they might on mine.
Hope this helps!!
My recommendation is read all the rom threads as much a you can and experiment by trying them out. "Best of" rom threads are frowned upon because it generally discourages people to read and learn. I am going to close this and trust you will be able to find what you are looking for with some diligence and have fun trying. Thats what makes this site great!:good:
Many previous Samsung flagship phones have had TERRIBLE user experiences with new major Android releases. My S7 (Exynos on Tmobile) has been prompting me to download and install Android 7, and I don't want to! Not while I'm not convinced it's gonna be a worse experience over the now smooth Android 6 it is currently running. My last phone was the S4, and the upgrade from Android 4 to 5 was terrible for everyone. I ran a Danvd 4.4.4 and that's about as good as it got for the S4.
I also don't trust Google to get any major Android revision right until Android x.1 Not gonna be a Google beta tester for my daily driver!
So, I am looking around here to see if there is any discussion about the upgrade from Android 6 to Android 7, from Samsung, and I'm a bit surprised to not see one.
Am I missing something?
So does everyone love Android 7.0 or should folks be waiting for Android 7.1 ?
You're not looking very far if you can't find any discussion about Nougat 7.0, that's just about all people are discussing now
If you don't like it, flash back to MM with ODIN
Nougat is IMO quicker and more optimised than MM now, better settings UI, better in just about everything, I flashed back to MM a while ago and didn't enjoy it one little bit, big clunky and childish compared to Nougat
one response with a bit of snark..... so... you don't know then, right? thanks.
Not looking to root, so flashing Nougat for a try and then flashing back is not possible.
This would specifically be a topic on accepting the factory upgrade to Nougat from Marshmallow; where most of the opinions here about Nougat are discussed in threads about custom ROMs.
In years past, this specific kind of discussion would have its own thread. Hunting for opinions on this throughout 100s of threads is just not going to work.
One snarky response because of the retarded question
Go read some threads, you obviously haven't
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One snarky response because of the retarded question
Go read some threads, you obviously haven't
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You are an asshole. Already did plenty of looking around, and there are no threads to facilitate discussion on how well received the general rollout is. You don't understand the ask, so just move along if you don't like a question.
For those interested:
Here is some pertinent stuff. It's mostly beta discussion.... Feb rollout by around post count 80
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/samsung-s7-nougat-final-ota-t3532213
The usual stuff: Not much love at all for Samsung's Nougat rollout. Lot's of reports of annoying bugs, bad batter life, etc.
Also, there is some better discussions about the wide Nougat rollouts in US-carrier-specific sub-forums.
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You are an asshole.
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My attitude mirrors that of the person I am talking to, take a look in the mirror.
Dude, STFU! What are you, 12 years old? I asked some simple questions, and you started right out with your juvenile ****. grow up!
Moderators, could you please close and remove this useless thread? Thanks to this asshat!
Dude? And you're calling me 12? lmao
Next time you start a thread, make sure you've read a few first
You wonder why no-one else has replied here, why your thread isn't a huge hit? Because it is attempting to start a subject being discussed all over the S7 forums in multiple threads already, but you would have known that if you'd read a few first.
You really think you can come late in the game to a forum as huge as XDA, to the busy S7 forums, where MM has been already upgraded to Nougat for most people, and think you are going to be the first to start a thread about MM vs Nougat?
Those sort of threads started at the beginning of the Nougat beta programme last year
Come on 'dude', even if you couldn't be bothered to look, you could have worked out for yourself that wasn't going to be the case.
I guess your description of this thread being useless is correct though, so congrats on that :good:
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