I think we should have them. Roms get daily/weekly updates and I don't understand why we shouldn't discuss pros and cons of different roms every now and then.
Me, for instance would never flash coindroid without these threads. I'm loving it to bits. If a better rom comes around I'd like to be aware of it.
What is wrong with knowing that coindroid's standby battery consumption is 50ma vs revolution's 90ma before flashing both?
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I think we should have them. Roms get daily/weekly updates and I don't understand why we shouldn't discuss pros and cons of different roms every now and then.
Me, for instance would never flash coindroid without these threads. I'm loving it to bits. If a better rom comes around I'd like to be aware of it.
What is wrong with knowing that coindroid's standby battery consumption is 50ma vs revolution's 90ma before flashing both?
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I understand your intentions with this post, to be completely honest. You've got a good initiative for bringing the everyday "flashers" as you might call them, into the loop without reading about the specific daily updates on each of the countless ROMs on this site.
The problem lies in synchronization with every other thread. If the OP of CoinDroid, for example, posts his updates on the original development thread, then what's his incentive for also posting on this new thread? If someone else did it for him in a quick little blurb, that's fine, but then there could be misinformation spread and not even necessarily the latest updates. Someone would have to go through every thread, every day, and update this new one after that.
Another issue with a thread like this is that most of them venture into the realm of opinion, which is great for everyone in gaining a general consensus opinion on an awesome ROM (ARHD), but awful for discerning any actual facts. It's just people stating the pros and cons through their eyes in a cluttered manner on one thread. If we wanted that, we could just go look at all the countless other threads that go through this same routine. Hell, the people making the opinions could be running a very old version of the ROM that feels stable anyway, with a custom kernel and any other number of mods. That means their opinion says nothing about the current state of the ROM.
ROMs don't get that drastic of a change of a nightly basis. Plus, it's not really necessary to have a thread that says "This one is best" or "I like this one because..." simply because there are so many threads that previously address this. Feel free to start them (it's a forum, after all), but don't expect replies every time. I just think what you're proposing is far too lofty for a forum
I recently upgraded from a Nexus 4. I was unlucky when I purchased my S4 because it came with the MF3 firmware. It's really important for me to be able to run custom roms on my phone. I know that using the safestrap method I can install TW based roms but I'd like to have more options available to me. It seems as though this has been the case for a while now. Should I just return my phone and purchase something else or wait for a fix in the future? Also, with the 4.3 update coming soon for the AT&T S4, will this effect my ability to use the safestrap method?
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I recently upgraded from a Nexus 4. I was unlucky when I purchased my S4 because it came with the MF3 firmware. It's really important for me to be able to run custom roms on my phone. I know that using the safestrap method I can install TW based roms but I'd like to have more options available to me. It seems as though this has been the case for a while now. Should I just return my phone and purchase something else or wait for a fix in the future? Also, with the 4.3 update coming soon for the AT&T S4, will this effect my ability to use the safestrap method?
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A. You need to search, the question you asked about safestrap has been answered several times as well as it can be answered at this point.
B. Only you can decide if you want to take the phone back or not. How is anyone supposed to make that decision for you? If you need information to help you make the decision, I suggest you read the "pinned" threads in the General and Q&A sections and also read the threads that are on the front couple of pages of those sections. Good luck.
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I recently upgraded from a Nexus 4. I was unlucky when I purchased my S4 because it came with the MF3 firmware. It's really important for me to be able to run custom roms on my phone. I know that using the safestrap method I can install TW based roms but I'd like to have more options available to me. It seems as though this has been the case for a while now. Should I just return my phone and purchase something else or wait for a fix in the future? Also, with the 4.3 update coming soon for the AT&T S4, will this effect my ability to use the safestrap method?
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I would say return it if you really care about flashing custom roms, get the nexus 5 if you want pure Android experience. Otherwise, you could keep it and wait for the flashing method to becomes available.
@scott14719
There is nothing wrong asking for a second opinion. move on.
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I say return it. There a plenty of options out there. My girlfriend just bought the lg g2 it's a very good phone. Or like was mentioned above the nexus 5 if you want pure android.
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A. You need to search, the question you asked about safestrap has been answered several times as well as it can be answered at this point.
B. Only you can decide if you want to take the phone back or not. How is anyone supposed to make that decision for you? If you need information to help you make the decision, I suggest you read the "pinned" threads in the General and Q&A sections and also read the threads that are on the front couple of pages of those sections. Good luck.
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... thanks buddy. the reason i ask is because maybe there is a developer reading this who might be able to give me a clearer timetable on when a fix might be released. it seems as though this has been an ongoing problem with no fix in sight. if the problem were to be fixed within the next month or so i'd be interested in keeping the phone. hence, why i ask the community for advice. it's not as though i'm a little child who doesn't know how to spend his money. and my question about the update/safestrap issue isn't clearly answered on the OP's FAQ... maybe if i sifted through thousands of pages. you go out of your way to write a lengthy MOD EDIT response yet fail to answer the question that could be easily answered much faster.
Anyone who buys an S4 or Note 3 from AT&T right now isMOD EDIT And did not do their homework before buying.
I'm lucky because I got my S4 the first day it was released, so I can run any ROM I want, including AOSP. But as of recently, nobody who buys a new S4 or Note 3 can run REAL custom ROM's, ever (as of today). And I'm talking AOSP of course.
When the first of my two current AT&T contracts is up (June '14), I'm ditching AT&T and going to T-Mobile.
I'll sell my used S4 to cover the cost of prematurely ending my second contract.
MOD EDIT AT&T.
I still love Samsung though. And have no plans to leave Samsung phones as long as they continue to give us removeable battery covers and MicroSD card slots.
Read and make a decision on your own. No one can decide it for you...the end!
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To the OP the reply to search and read is the best reply. The #1 rule on XDA is search. Your remark to the individual suggesting to search and read is unwarranted.
Also questions go in the Q&A section not in General. Please read the XDA rules here and familiarize yourself with them.
To all others profanity is not permitted on XDA in any style or form. Masked profanity is profanity. Also abusive name calling is not tolerated.
Thank you for your future attention to this.
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I just got my Note 5 this afternoon, not a single one of my credit or debit cards will work with Samsung Pay and since I am with USAA it may be a while before it does, as such the itch to root is even stronger now.
Has the latest OTA been rooted yet? I am currently still on 5.1.1 but I am getting the notification for an update.
Would it be wise to update or should I wait a bit longer?
In other words has unlock and root been achieved on the newest OTA yet?
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I just got my Note 5 this afternoon, not a single one of my credit or debit cards will work with Samsung Pay and since I am with USAA it may be a while before it does, as such the itch to root is even stronger now.
Has the latest OTA been rooted yet? I am currently still on 5.1.1 but I am getting the notification for an update.
Would it be wise to update or should I wait a bit longer?
In other words has unlock and root been achieved on the newest OTA yet?
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Please browse the forum. Your answers are literally a click away. Heck you can even Google "root tmobile note 5," and it'll bring you right back to xda.
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Jammol said:
Please browse the forum. Your answers are literally a click away. Heck you can even Google "root tmobile note 5," and it'll bring you right back to xda.
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I didn't ask if it could be rooted.
I asked if MM had been rooted or if it was only LP at this time, as all I see in the development forum are 5.1.1 roms and kernels.
This is why I asked the question the way I did.
There is a very good reason that XDA has the reputation of being a bad place to go if you have questions, and your response is part of that problem.
The Q&A forum is for precisely these style questions.
Now, seeing as how I did not ask how to root the device as there are plenty of threads on that, would you care to take a stab at answering my actual question.
I won't be mad at a link to a thread which answers the question I asked.
Just do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3187422
Looks like this when done right
And again, note that the link and the screenshot is for LP, I am asking if MM has been rooted yet.
Though I do very much appreciate the response.
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And again, note that the link and the screenshot is for LP, I am asking if MM has been rooted yet.
Though I do very much appreciate the response.
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First of all you never stated anything about mm in your original post. Secondly note 5 is still on lp. The only thing you stated is if the latest Ota has been rooted, and the latest Ota is lp and yes it has been rooted so there is your answer.
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Reading my post again you are 100% right, I apologize.
Thank you.
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I didn't ask if it could be rooted.
I asked if MM had been rooted or if it was only LP at this time, as all I see in the development forum are 5.1.1 roms and kernels.
This is why I asked the question the way I did.
There is a very good reason that XDA has the reputation of being a bad place to go if you have questions, and your response is part of that problem.
The Q&A forum is for precisely these style questions.
Now, seeing as how I did not ask how to root the device as there are plenty of threads on that, would you care to take a stab at answering my actual question.
I won't be mad at a link to a thread which answers the question I asked.
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Its all good. I won't go there with this one. The back and forth isn't worth it. You should also probably edit your post!
MM Beta is rootable. Go to the development section to find out the pros and cons of using the beta. I advise you to stay on LP. There's only the stock rooted beta kernel available for MM. There's a lot of cons to being on it, so please keep that in mind is you decide to flash it.
See how much help I still gave you without actually posting a link? Not trying to be a **** but if we soon feed the work, the work wouldn't know how to feed itself. I started off as the wise noob ever, and bricked phones. If I had only taken the time to Google and research, those devices being bricked could have been avoided.
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Its all good. I won't go there with this one. The back and forth isn't worth it. You should also probably edit your post!
MM Beta is rootable. Go to the development section to find out the pros and cons of using the beta. I advise you to stay on LP. There's only the stock rooted beta kernel available for MM. There's a lot of cons to being on it, so please keep that in mind is you decide to flash it.
See how much help I still gave you without actually posting a link? Not trying to be a **** but if we soon feed the work, the work wouldn't know how to feed itself. I started off as the wise noob ever, and bricked phones. If I had only taken the time to Google and research, those devices being bricked could have been avoided.
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Jammol,
I realise in my first post I did not give names as I had thought I had. This is why upon re-reading it I apologized as my original question wasn't clear.
Thank you for the follow up.
In any question thread the answer should be clear, even if it is simply a link to another post, in this way those coming here in the future can follow the link rather than seeing a simple "nevermind I figured it out" and my post being the only response to their search. Please note, I did not say you had to provide a link, just said that even if your answer was simply a link to where I could find the answer that would be fine as well.
Note I did search, but as I was looking for MM ROMS I could not find anything, I was under the mistaken impression that MM was on the device. This is where I erred and why I could not find anymore information.
For all future folks taking a look at this thread, as of today MM is not available on the Note5 and the newest OTA (as of today) has already been rooted and you can find a number of ROMS in the development section.
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Jammol,
I realise in my first post I did not give names as I had thought I had. This is why upon re-reading it I apologized as my original question wasn't clear.
Thank you for the follow up.
In any question thread the answer should be clear, even if it is simply a link to another post, in this way those coming here in the future can follow the link rather than seeing a simple "nevermind I figured it out" and my post being the only response to their search. Please note, I did not say you had to provide a link, just said that even if your answer was simply a link to where I could find the answer that would be fine as well.
Note I did search, but as I was looking for MM ROMS I could not find anything, I was under the mistaken impression that MM was on the device. This is where I erred and why I could not find anymore information.
For all future folks taking a look at this thread, as of today MM is not available on the Note5 and the newest OTA (as of today) has already been rooted and you can find a number of ROMS in the development section.
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It's okay.
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flyingwolf said:
Jammol,
I realise in my first post I did not give names as I had thought I had. This is why upon re-reading it I apologized as my original question wasn't clear.
Thank you for the follow up.
In any question thread the answer should be clear, even if it is simply a link to another post, in this way those coming here in the future can follow the link rather than seeing a simple "nevermind I figured it out" and my post being the only response to their search. Please note, I did not say you had to provide a link, just said that even if your answer was simply a link to where I could find the answer that would be fine as well.
Note I did search, but as I was looking for MM ROMS I could not find anything, I was under the mistaken impression that MM was on the device. This is where I erred and why I could not find anymore information.
For all future folks taking a look at this thread, as of today MM is not available on the Note5 and the newest OTA (as of today) has already been rooted and you can find a number of ROMS in the development section.
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Damn, you came off as really stabdoffish and a bit entitled, like everyone here owes you their time searching for a subject you could easily have searched for yourself. Smh
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Damn, you came off as really stabdoffish and a bit entitled, like everyone here owes you their time searching for a subject you could easily have searched for yourself. Smh
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Honest question for you.
After reading the thread, seeing where I had apologized and seeing that the issues was solved and the back and forth was done, what compelled you to respond in such a negative manner?
You end your statement with "smh" which I can only assume stands for "so much hate" as it is currently used.
So why bother? You see the thread is resolved, you see the question has been answered but then you just felt this need to respond?
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Honest question for you.
After reading the thread, seeing where I had apologized and seeing that the issues was solved and the back and forth was done, what compelled you to respond in such a negative manner?
You end your statement with "smh" which I can only assume stands for "so much hate" as it is currently used.
So why bother? You see the thread is resolved, you see the question has been answered but then you just felt this need to respond?
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Smh means shaking my head. And it doesn't matter if it was resolved, you got all upset that none of us took the time to GOOGLE or FORUM SEARCH for you, when you could have easily done that yourself. The sense of entitlement was pretty thick.
And again, if you had actually bothered to read I state that I did search but was under the mistaken impression that this phone had an update to MM when it had not, hence the reason I could not find anything when searching for MM ROM's, this is why I asked.
So your assertion, especially after I had already stated I did, that I didn't search is completely unfounded.
The issue I took was with a response that boiled down to "do your own research as this help forum isn't here to help you".
This is an issue at XDA and why XDA is universally made fun of and considered a bad place to go if you have questions that haven't been answered, because a bunch of folks will respond with vitriol without bothering to read the rest of the posts.
For instance, the best answer was already given, but it would have hurt nothing for Jamool to have said:
"The latest OTA update is currently LP and that has been rooted, you can find multiple roms in the development section of the forum, here is a link (link). And in the future make sure to make use of that search button."
At which point I would have realised that I was mistaken on the idea that the Note5 has Marshmallow already and that would have been the end of the conversation.
Now, can we consider this matter closed otr would you like to once again respond and tell me how I didn't bother to search?
P.S. I cannot be the only one that has noticed that the search function seems to stop working at 11pm EST am I?
flyingwolf said:
I just got my Note 5 this afternoon, not a single one of my credit or debit cards will work with Samsung Pay and since I am with USAA it may be a while before it does, as such the itch to root is even stronger now.
Has the latest OTA been rooted yet? I am currently still on 5.1.1 but I am getting the notification for an update.
Would it be wise to update or should I wait a bit longer?
In other words has unlock and root been achieved on the newest OTA yet?
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Where you on N920TUVS2COKC when you got it? If so how did you root it. I got mines today & dont see any updates available. Also the space kernel has been pulled.
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I did google, and as I said already. I was wrong.
I guess you really don't bother to read previous posts.
How dare I post a question in a question and answer forum specific to my question.
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Where you on N920TUVS2COKC when you got it? If so how did you root it. I got mines today & dont see any updates available. Also the space kernel has been pulled.
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I haven't rooted yet, I am holding out hope that usaa gets Samsung pay setup soon.
I was having a bad day , then I read this.
Im tired of seeing these Note 7 roms and I want to relive these Cyanogenmod days but Cyanogenmod is dead. Is there a possibility that there is a way we can get developers to build a rom for the superiour Note 4? I like Lineage OS because of its OTA function that releases bug fixes and updates. Im not offending anyone or anything... Its just not my taste. I think 7.X is a big milestone for the Note 4 since Samsung wont release any more upgrades anymore due to its age. I know some people who want 7.X so bad but their good phones are "TOO OLD" I will sit here and wait til someone builds it.
+1 for this.
Just a vanilla port though with minimal modifications, and good Open GApps support.
EDIT: In the meantime, there is this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/rom-lineageos-14-1-t3536401
It appears to have a build for SM-N910T (trltetmo), but who knows how long the developer will support it. I can't help but think since one prolific developer on XDA abandoned a Nougat CM project because he couldn't work on it anymore, I don't have a lot of trust for anyone right now....
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Im tired of seeing these Note 7 roms and I want to relive these Cyanogenmod days but Cyanogenmod is dead. Is there a possibility that there is a way we can get developers to build a rom for the superiour Note 4? I like Lineage OS because of its OTA function that releases bug fixes and updates. Im not offending anyone or anything... Its just not my taste. I think 7.X is a big milestone for the Note 4 since Samsung wont release any more upgrades anymore due to its age. I know some people who want 7.X so bad but their good phones are "TOO OLD" I will sit here and wait til someone builds it.
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Q&A thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/help/request-lineage-os-sm-n910t-t3546115
Look, we get it, you're upset that Xiaomi haven't delivered the update yet. Everyone else here feels the same. But right now, it feels like we're getting several new threads consisting of exactly the same misinformation for no real reason. So with that in mind, here is some more concrete information.
Xiaomi Support have *NO IDEA* about the update for our phone. Seriously. Disbelieve anything they say, because it's only ever provided conflicting or incorrect information.
Legally(?) speaking, they HAVE to provide the Android 10 update, as outlined by the Android One guidelines and promises.
We don't know when we'll get the update. No one does.
Keep in mind that the A2 is a different device to the A2 Lite. Although similar, the two devices get separate updates so one can barely glean much from information pertaining to the A2.
The most you can do is either continue waiting patiently like the rest of us, or go check out one of the many many custom ROMs on offer in this forum.
If what you were considering posting isn't covered here, please post it in one of the many open threads that already exist about this issue. The most popular one seems to be "A2 Lite official Android 10 update release date?", but there are loads more threads sitting about in the "Guides, News & Discussion" subforum. Please remember to read through entire threads to check if someone else has already posted what you were going to say and remember to not spam the forum with your question - this includes replying to multiple threads with the exact same kind of message.