I heard over on Android Authority that Samsung has release its JellyBean source code for the i1900. I know our phones have a different processor, so it's not going to work on our phones, but given that they share at least a name, should I be hopeful that there could be some goodness in there to help move our Skyrocket's along with JellyBean (e.g. CyanogenMod 10.1), or even hopes of an official JellyBean release from Samsung?
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-releases-android-jelly-bean-source-code-galaxy-s2-137715/
There is already a Samsung JB leak in Development forum, you should have taken a look there.
Trinition said:
I heard over on Android Authority that Samsung has release its JellyBean source code for the i1900. I know our phones have a different processor, so it's not going to work on our phones, but given that they share at least a name, should I be hopeful that there could be some goodness in there to help move our Skyrocket's along with JellyBean (e.g. CyanogenMod 10.1), or even hopes of an official JellyBean release from Samsung?
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-releases-android-jelly-bean-source-code-galaxy-s2-137715/
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Do you read any of our threads before posting useless new threads?
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Should have done a search? I did, thanks. Searched for "jelly bean source". No hits. So I posted.
And a leaked *compiled* ROM does not equal source. Now it does answer my question about the Skyrocket getting Jelly Bean, and further implies there will eventually be a source delivery. That does not mean that the regular S2 Jelly Bean source available now can't offer a more immediate impact.
Also note that the UCLK4 thread in the development forum is slightly over one day old as of now. At the time I posted this thread, it was about 12 hours old. And the one in the General section was started after.
In fact, I saw the S2 news at AA much earlier yesterday but decided to wait to ask so others with more knowledge and experience could preemptively answer my question. But, via my search, I didn't find my answer.
So, yes, I agree my thread is now irrelevant. But at the time, it was hardly as clear as the smug replies in this thread suggest.
Sorry for my rudeness in response to yours. I know you guys have to put up with a lot of newbs. But the robotic and condescending dismissals are just as annoying to see over and over again, especially after I *did* do my due diligence.
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I didn't mean anything harsh in my reply, but answered half of your question, a half that seemed to me the most important one (our phone having official Samsung JB).
To answer one more thing: the sources are good for some things, namely if your goal is to patch the new kernel to the old driver binaries (the kind of work that's necessary for old and non-supported phones to run the latest OS found on their latest siblings with the same chipset) - but if your goal is to run the full OS with official latest drivers that it's built to run with, without precompiled binaries the source is good for nothing. And the patching work is futile if the official release is a month-two away.
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As stated by the title, I know we are waiting for the Honeycomb source to be released before any Honeycomb roms are developed for the Gtab. But, and it's a big But!, Now that google has said they are delaying the release of the HC source are we going to see some Honeycomb SDK ports? Or are we going to wait until the true source is released? I don't really mind either way, it's just a question that is on my mind and I'm sure is on the mind of others here.
Your question has been answered before on several closed "honeycomb" threads during the release timeframe of Xoom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=854632&highlight=honeycomb
If you do a search, you will find a lot of info.. In a couple of HC threads, the conversation got very heated between a few members and the dev.. it is why the mods decided to ban "honeycomb" thread. Did the mods say no honeycream thread too?
This thread is one of the HC classic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968409
While I think your question is valid and worth asking (although as indicated above, you probably could have found it by searching), The question I have is 'Did this deserve another thread?'. Clearly you knew posting new HC threads was a bad idea. Why not ask your question in the 'Official' HC thread?
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While I think your question is valid and worth asking (although as indicated above, you probably could have found it by searching), The question I have is 'Did this deserve another thread?'. Clearly you knew posting new HC threads was a bad idea. Why not ask your question in the 'Official' HC thread?
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Most new members are not familiar with the search.. plus, you cannot post a question to the official HC thread. You can send private question though.
I am with Dcon87 that it is also on my mind but I am just not going to ask.. Once a while, the Mod updated the official HC thread with update....
so, just be patience.. everyone!
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Most new members are not familiar with the search.. plus, you cannot post a question to the official HC thread. You can send private question though.
I am with Dcon87 that it is also on my mind but I am just not going to ask.. Once a while, the Mod updated the official HC thread with update....
so, just be patience.. everyone!
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Fair enough. I didn't realize the official thread was locked. Thought you could post to it.
As for any ports of the SDK, I don't think you will see anything on that front.
The SDK was compiled for the emulator (an ARM emulator). Thus, ports are showing up for phones/devices that run an ARM based chip. Being a Tegra device, that compilation won't run on our tablets.
You may see some renewed interest in trying to pull out certain APKs, but even that has the stumbling block of likely being dependent on the new framework and fragments API.
As much as I'd like to see HC in action on this tablet, and as ticked as I am at google for this move, I think we are basically 'stuck'. Without the source, you are basically pissing up rope
IBTL lol
Agree, without the source, it is hard for the dev to cook. I am following the Notion Ink hack forum.. and they basically said the same, the good news is that Notion Ink claimed that they are working on Honeycomb....
Just wondering will Viewsonic/malata send requests to google to get the honeycomb source? As I read it, tablet makers can make requests to access to the source as long as they are using it only on tablets.
tyy10002 said:
Just wondering will Viewsonic/malata send requests to google to get the honeycomb source? As I read it, tablet makers can make requests to access to the source as long as they are using it only on tablets.
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Considering they just unloaded 10,000 GTabs on Woot and the retail channels are having a fire sale right now, I don't think Viewsonic will be doing anything related to decent software changes.
h3llphyre said:
Considering they just unloaded 10,000 GTabs on Woot and the retail channels are having a fire sale right now, I don't think Viewsonic will be doing anything related to decent software changes.
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I think you are right. Viewsonic probably won't do anything to it but we may be surprised. I thought last update was the final one.. now, they are releasing another one with the lockscreen. who knows.. Back to Dec last year, the VP of Product marketing of Viewsonic answered some questions in this forum, and I "wish" he is back with some answers on the future of the gtab.. probably in my dream.. =P
We could possibly convince the CM team to cook CM for our device too. We need to request them in their forums.
Please add your requests to these threads.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/39663-cm-for-galaxy-r-gti9103/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/40719-please-port-cyanogenmod-to-galaxy-r-i9103/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/30930-samsung-galaxy-r-z-gt-i9103/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37018-please-give-us-cyanogen-mod-for-samsung-galaxy-r-i9103/
I don't think it's gonna make much difference. None of mods/devs have ever answered to any of those threads.
I think that our guys will port it faster.
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I don't think it's gonna make much difference. None of mods/devs have ever answered to any of those threads.
I think that our guys will port it faster.
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The reason is the requests are too few for anyone to notice.
The Devs wont make a ROM for just 5 or 6 people. We need to have a mass request.
Let us give it a try
You may be right, It doesn't harm to try. But I don't think creating new threads is a good idea since we already have....nine of them. Opening new threads will just make mods pissed. We need to chose the one major thread - in section Unofficial Ports (that's the place for unsupported devices), and write there.
I agree with you 100%.
But the question is, which thread do we support?
From what I've seen, the cyanogenmod team won't just take on a new phone like that. Maybe after we have a stable unofficial port, but not til then. Look at how the huawei ideos 1850 progressed, it got a lot of attention after someone ported it for themselves, and now it has official CM. keep going guys but if you really want CM then I think it's better to help get AOSP for R than to spam CM forums...
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I absolutely agree, that none gets cm just like that: "-please give us cyanogen!" "-Ok here you go"
(There are already nine threads - every new user seems to want to have his own thread Even I opened one in donators lounge )
Another example. I don't remember what it was for device, but users contacted directly one of cm devs and then created a donation thread, collected money and bought him a phone. Once they got CM development started for real.
I think the max what they can do for us is welcome a new developer from us with this device and let him do CM for R :/. Thats could happen with LG GT540 and there was a veeeeeeeeeeeeery big spam about CM for it.
+1
CM is the beast..
I guess after our device gets ICS it will step into the world of real dev'ing.
If someone has good experience with repos and AOSP + CM7 stuff please help me with my git repo here:
http://github.com/EmoBoiix3/android_device_samsung_galaxyr
Although we don't have many devs who own this device, it feels very nice that we have a couple of members who are willing to put their best efforts to port the ROM.
We could show our gratitude and support when they bring out the early builds by donating. Please show your support friends.
+1
Must need cm7
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And regarding the ICS for our phone, I can sense some delay. Samsung leaks firmwares frequently during development. Probably because they know that we guys flash it and report bugs here. It would save them time on testing.
Couple of builds have leaked for Galaxy SII.
None for ours yet. Same with Optimus 2x. The users from O2x forum say that the OEMs are waiting for NVidia to release the sources.
We can expect ICS for i9103 in Q2
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thats a sad bit of news
ICS
Official ICS for SGR is due Q1 of 2012. I think only after release of the official rom, devs will start working
Good news as the first Tegra 2 device running Android 4 (ICS) will be on sale starting 15 Jan. 2012.
The device is Acer Iconia Tab A200 and it will be a milestone for a ICS port for all the other devices sharing the same CPU/GPU.
The original story here:
Acer Expands Popular Tablet Lineup With Iconia Tab A200, a Full-Featured HD Tablet at an Attractive $329 Price
What about CM?
Hello,
Is anyone still developing of the cyanogenmod for Galaxy R GT-I9103?
I'ld like to offer free allocation for your builds on cyanogenmod.su or any new domain you want!
I have over 1K users, who will be happy to test CM7 or CM9 builds, make bugreports and donate.
Maybe you know someone else who develops cyanogenmod, I'll be grateful for any response.
We have few devs that work on AOSP and CM7. Check these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558637
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548775
Yes , that's good . If someone in the CM team is good with kernels maybe they can help me
Defy-ing all limits.
I didn't know if i should post this here or on the Devlopment forum but here goes.
I know it'll probably be FOREVER before AT&T releases the ICS update for our devices, if it happens at all. Because of this i rooted my phone and am running Ice Cold Sandwich from Lord Clockan in the forums.
I see that theres been a lot of work in the DHD and Inspire Dev forums on porting One V version of sense and ICS to the Inspire.
Since i'm not a dev I know this question may sound stupid, but would it not be easier to try and port the Vivid ICS and Sense version to the Inspire since it's already been officially released and working? Or would this be too difficult because of the difference in screen size 4.3 vs 4.5?
If screen size matters what about a Sensation port?
If these questions come off as stupid please forgive my ignorance i'm just a curious user.
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I didn't know if i should post this here or on the Devlopment forum but here goes.
I know it'll probably be FOREVER before AT&T releases the ICS update for our devices, if it happens at all. Because of this i rooted my phone and am running Ice Cold Sandwich from Lord Clockan in the forums.
I see that theres been a lot of work in the DHD and Inspire Dev forums on porting One V version of sense and ICS to the Inspire.
Since i'm not a dev I know this question may sound stupid, but would it not be easier to try and port the Vivid ICS and Sense version to the Inspire since it's already been officially released and working? Or would this be too difficult because of the difference in screen size 4.3 vs 4.5?
If screen size matters what about a Sensation port?
If these questions come off as stupid please forgive my ignorance i'm just a curious user.
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Please do a search for your answers before you post a question like this as its been discussed nearly 312312 times. The bottom line is this: AT&T is not releasing ICS to the Inspire. However, the Desire is going to get it. This means that when the desire does get it, the devs will have the PROPER source to build off of. So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond. So what does that mean for us, well that means that we get alpha and beta releases of ICS until the devs get the correct code to fix some of the issues in their ROMs.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
Please do a search for your answers before you post a question like this as its been discussed nearly 312312 times. The bottom line is this: AT&T is not releasing ICS to the Inspire. However, the Desire is going to get it. This means that when the desire does get it, the devs will have the PROPER source to build off of. So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond. So what does that mean for us, well that means that we get alpha and beta releases of ICS until the devs get the correct code to fix some of the issues in their ROMs.
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I already knew everything you posted. Nothing you've said really answers the question I posted.
I'm not complaining about AT&T not releasing it. Very far from it actually since i'm using a stable ICS ROM.
Contrary to popular belief the Search Forum / Topic function does not work as well as everyone thinks it did. I tried searching using various key words and it all just brought me to the Vivid forum which obviously is not where I want to be.
In your unnecessary rant you say "So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond." which is obviously BS considering in my OP I mention the fact that Devs are currently porting ICS and Sense from the HTC One V for the DHD / Inspire. So not only are they taking the OS and Skin from a different device and porting it to ours, but they're getting it from a device that has not yet even been released to the public.
Would someone else like to answer my question original question without being a "do a search" nazi?
I would imagine that if the Vivid or Sensation ROMs were a viable option to port to the Inspire, then one of the genius devs here would have already thought of it.
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I already knew everything you posted. Nothing you've said really answers the question I posted.
I'm not complaining about AT&T not releasing it. Very far from it actually since i'm using a stable ICS ROM.
Contrary to popular belief the Search Forum / Topic function does not work as well as everyone thinks it did. I tried searching using various key words and it all just brought me to the Vivid forum which obviously is not where I want to be.
In your unnecessary rant you say "So no, you can't port an official ICS ROM from the Vivid or any other device other then the Desire because there will be issues from the source all the way to the drivers and beyond." which is obviously BS considering in my OP I mention the fact that Devs are currently porting ICS and Sense from the HTC One V for the DHD / Inspire. So not only are they taking the OS and Skin from a different device and porting it to ours, but they're getting it from a device that has not yet even been released to the public.
Would someone else like to answer my question original question without being a "do a search" nazi?
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buttmaddddd? lolol. Senior members get butt hurt. Indirectly quoting me in other threads. Troll on. Follow the rules of xda and there are no problems. If you take exception with me and how I answer questions please feel free to get buttmadd and send me a PM so it can settled outside of this thread and other threads. I answered your question. There was no rant. The only rant I see here is yours and this one right here. So please keep your troll comments to yourself and out other threads. My original answer is valid and answers your question. I'm sorry it wasn't technical enough or straight from the mouths of a mod or dev, which seems to be what you wanted.
They're already porting it from the sensation XL which is closer to the inspires hardware, move along
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Because porting a qHD Rom with a wholly different SoC is hard.
Anyone wonder why there are devs on this device who are running their own custom roms, yet no one is PUBLICLY developing for it? They all have personal roms, and are unwilling to post them for us to use? Anyone know why?
Well there are no roms and development because we can't. Samsung didn't release the source code for the wifi chip so we can't mess around with stuff as much.
I don't know of anyone having personal roms or anything similar of the sort so where did you hear that? (As rude as that sounds I am genuinely curious)
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Well there are no roms and development because we can't. Samsung didn't release the source code for the wifi chip so we can't mess around with stuff as much.
I don't know of anyone having personal roms or anything similar of the sort so where did you hear that? (As rude as that sounds I am genuinely curious)
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That explains some of it... But I have seen some members sig lines say things like:
DEVICES I own:
Galaxy Tab +, rom= personal rom
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my own rom that Im not sharing due to xda community on that forum
I'm not trying to start a flame against any specific member (which is why Im not naming names), Im just curious as to why they dont actually share their work...
Well my take on that is since we can't mess with it they most likely made small changes and there is no point in releasing it or they made a rom and it is there own rom and it has been released thus the 'personal' title.
In terms of the no sharing I think I know who you are talking about and he/she has recently released a rom in the development section if you look.
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Well my take on that is since we can't mess with it they most likely made small changes and there is no point in releasing it or they made a rom and it is there own rom and it has been released thus the 'personal' title.
In terms of the no sharing I think I know who you are talking about and he/she has recently released a rom in the development section if you look.
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Lol I DO know and I saw their Rom.... Actually tried flashing it.... I'm glad that they finally released.... I love seeing development explode..? maybe that's just what I'm waiting for??
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I am running my own personal created ROM, but as suggested above, the changes are minimal and so releasing the ROM would really be pointless. I am testing tweaks and mods here and there, but I really haven't found something super beneficial worthy of being released to the community.
Once Samsung releases some wifi driver source (or ICS source), then development *should* pick up.
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Excuse me if this post is out of place, but I have always owned phones that got lots of attention with cooked Roms. But my Motorola Photon Q 4G just sits around with this Android 4.0 and no upgrade in sight. It's definitely soured me against Motorola and doubt I'll get another. I even jumped through Motorola's hoops to give up any warranty so I could root. But the hoops I think have greatly reduced any interest in experimenting. Again, sorry if this is out of place, but I'm tired of dropping in here and still seeing nothing. Please, please, please, if you have the expertise, give us Motorola Photon Q owners some hope.
Oy.
You should probably scope a device out and see how active the development community is. I don't see why Motorola is responsible for a lack of developer community...
At any rate, you have CM10, an official JB soak with an official JB update on the way. I helped port TWRP, made a custom kernel and did my best to keep it updated with the Moto updates.
As always, the open source arena is just that - an open one. People are doing it in their free time, so either you can help out or wait for others to produce something. But posts/threads like this don't exactly inspire development. At least I am thoroughly uninspired by your post.
See, the small development community for this phone is what inspired me to start working on CM10 myself. If you're frustrated with the pace of development, then please help. We would all of us appreciate it.
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Thanks.
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Oy.
You should probably scope a device out and see how active the development community is. I don't see why Motorola is responsible for a lack of developer community...
At any rate, you have CM10, an official JB soak with an official JB update on the way. I helped port TWRP, made a custom kernel and did my best to keep it updated with the Moto updates.
As always, the open source arena is just that - an open one. People are doing it in their free time, so either you can help out or wait for others to produce something. But posts/threads like this don't exactly inspire development. At least I am thoroughly uninspired by your post.
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For what it's worth, Sprint/Motorola began rolling JB update today - OTA.
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
solitarywarrior1 said:
See, the small development community for this phone is what inspired me to start working on CM10 myself. If you're frustrated with the pace of development, then please help. We would all of us appreciate it.
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discipler said:
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
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Well, you started by posting this thread in Android Development
Edit - thank you mods