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Verizon version on T-Mobile?

Hi all,
I read a post that seemed to confirm this but wanted to be sure.
Verizon g5 on T-Mobile? Any issues, will phone/data work without root and jumping thru a bunch of hurtles?

TheFuzz said:
Hi all,
I read a post that seemed to confirm this but wanted to be sure.
Verizon g5 on T-Mobile? Any issues, will phone/data work without root and jumping thru a bunch of hurtles?
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Many are wondering because you can get the G5 for $120 from Best Buy right now. The AT&T version is really the one to get, but I believe the Verizon one, while unlocked, doesn't have all of Tmo's bands available. They hide them. You do get 2 and 4 but no band 12.
I'm not active in this forum, and I haven't picked one up yet as I'm resisting the urge and have a Z play and Note 4. But if you can root and get into the service menu you could/should be able to make band 12 usable.
Anyone else have anything to add/offer?

Currently we are only seeing HSPA+ and not LTE with a CRICKET Sim inserted.

I don't understand why it won't get LTE on Cricket. It has band 2 and 4. Maybe I have a defective phone.

aaronjwarren09 said:
I don't understand why it won't get LTE on Cricket. It has band 2 and 4. Maybe I have a defective phone.
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No same thing here with T-Mobile SIM.. If you put it on LTE/CDMA the LTE sticks but since we don't have VoLTE on the VS987 its pointless to do that unless you don't care about incoming calls. This has been a issue for verizon LG phones after the G3 and to make things worse *#*#4636#*#* is disabled.

running ok on Verizon?

Hey all, considering getting a new phone, and this one seems like a beast. Currently have a pixel 2XL. On Verizon.
given that there aren't many choices for an unlocked bootloader on Verizon, how is this one running? Call quality okay? Any problems with the CDMA data? with all those things in mind, any advice on what model or what source I should use to purchase the phone? Thanks.

Running fine, the unlocked version works on all the carriers, popped a sprint Sim and it worked for 30 seconds before Sim locked up unforantly no support on sprint unless one plus 7 pro 5g. T-mobile was terrible what ever reason, full bars 1mb speeds or call couldn't be placed. Best place to buy is direct oneplus.com

Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know

id love to know about the sim settings. im on verizon... phone works better than i thought it would. I expected more areas with poor to no reception... instead i basically get the same coverage i did with my s10, but if i can make it better, i sure want to.
thanks

spencbain said:
Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
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Likewise I would love to hear the tweaks for Verizon.

There is no cdma data. I've not missed it much except in the forests of Oregon. Turning on roaming got me service though on the extended network.
WiFi calling and Verizon video chat doesn't work.
Other than the pixel, about the only other choice on Verizon would be an unbranded Moto.

Unlocked Pre-Order from Samsung w ATT SIM - will I be able to use WiFi calling /VoLTE

Current Note8 user on ATT (phone locked to carrier). I pre-ordered a Note20 Ultra from Samsung direct, unlocked version. Have been off XDA really for a couple years and not rooting/modding much lately but have read that ATT will not allow unlocked phones on their network to use WiFi Calling and/or VoLTE. If true, are there workaround options for me (assuming I stick w ATT as the carrier I mean) to get these to work, or should I cancel the unlocked model and order the ATT version? Was hoping to root eventually and remove bloatware / play w custom ROMs again on the Ultra etc etc. - that is why I ordered an unlocked version.
Thanks gents for the guidance here! Best forum around for us phone geeks

If it will be like Note 9 or 10 plus just have to flash the U version csc with odin and it will give you wifi calling advanced..messaging..volte
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butchieboy said:
If it will be like Note 9 or 10 plus just have to flash the U version csc with odin and it will give you wifi calling advanced..messaging..volte
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Much thanks - I will do this then when it arrives.

Did not work for me on the unlocked note 10+. Worked right away on the tmobile.
Att was actually fun to have. Nothing that att expected worked on the unlocked device. For example I had unlimited hotspot, despite it was not included in my att plan.

Elastep said:
Did not work for me on the unlocked note 10+. Worked right away on the tmobile.
Att was actually fun to have. Nothing that att expected worked on the unlocked device. For example I had unlimited hotspot, despite it was not included in my att plan.
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That's bizarre. I am rethinking this unlocked route. I must have wifi calling since signal at the house is terrible in my area. I don't need the drama of uncertainty if this will work or not. Might as well cancel the unlocked one and just upgrade via att. Oy. Wtf is with att these days? They lost my directv account last year and now their wireless policies are looking like a royal pita.

I don't think you have to worry .... ATT seems to consistently allow Samsung unlocked devices to have carrier functions
You just have to flash the U CSC as mentioned above. Worked for me on Note 10 and is currently working on a s20 ultra device

Jcrompton
Whats going on buddy. You jumping on the Ultra?
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I strongly recommend switching your order to the ATT model. I got my note 10+ unlocked based off the suggestions found here saying that flashing the att firmware would give me all the features, and I've been through a year of headaches.
For a little wile i was able to enjoy wifi calling, voicemail and VOLTE, but after my first software update the features were lost. i was able to get them back briefly by putting my sim back in an old Att phone and keeping it for a day or two, but that trick never lasted past a week. I've tried re-flashing the software, switching back to unlocked and then back to ATT, basically anything i could think of and it never worked.
calling ATT didn't help either, as the reps gave me a canned line about not supporting outside phones. the whole reason I'm updating to the 20 ultra is to just get my phone fully functional with an ATT model

Darthshadow666 said:
I strongly recommend switching your order to the ATT model. I got my note 10+ unlocked based off the suggestions found here saying that flashing the att firmware would give me all the features, and I've been through a year of headaches.
For a little wile i was able to enjoy wifi calling, voicemail and VOLTE, but after my first software update the features were lost. i was able to get them back briefly by putting my sim back in an old Att phone and keeping it for a day or two, but that trick never lasted past a week. I've tried re-flashing the software, switching back to unlocked and then back to ATT, basically anything i could think of and it never worked.
calling ATT didn't help either, as the reps gave me a canned line about not supporting outside phones. the whole reason I'm updating to the 20 ultra is to just get my phone fully functional with an ATT model
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Thanks darth. Yeah, I switched to the att version. Hate the hidden tracking bloatware etc that comes with it but must have a very workable phone for daily work calls and wifi calling is a must. No drama is my motto these days. Thank you for reporting your experience.

I had the same situation with my unlocked Pixel 4 XL, keep calling ATT until I got the right person to modify my sim to allow WiFi Calling to work, that's my plan when I get my unlocked 20 Ultra.

I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
jaxf250 said:
Current Note8 user on ATT (phone locked to carrier). I pre-ordered a Note20 Ultra from Samsung direct, unlocked version. Have been off XDA really for a couple years and not rooting/modding much lately but have read that ATT will not allow unlocked phones on their network to use WiFi Calling and/or VoLTE. If true, are there workaround options for me (assuming I stick w ATT as the carrier I mean) to get these to work, or should I cancel the unlocked model and order the ATT version? Was hoping to root eventually and remove bloatware / play w custom ROMs again on the Ultra etc etc. - that is why I ordered an unlocked version.
Thanks gents for the guidance here! Best forum around for us phone geeks
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What worries me is the 5G. Will unlocked work for ATT 5G?

It does on my unlocked Galaxy S20+ 5G. The Note 20 Ultra is a ways to release and their system doesn't yet correctly identify the IMEI, so I can't say for sure what will happen after release day.
b00st4ddicted said:
What worries me is the 5G. Will unlocked work for ATT 5G?
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pdagal said:
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
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Hi Lisa,
Your reviews are the best, so thank you first of all. Can you check if it has any eSIM capabilities? Supposedly S20 was going to get an update to allow eSIM use in US but that never happened...

Thanks . I'm not seeing anything under connection settings on our US unlocked Note 20 Ultra (there's no IMEI listed or cellular network option listed under connection settings when no nano SIM is installed. EsimClient is running on the phone, which makes me think the hardware must be there. EsimClient is not running on my GS 20+ unlocked.
VICosPhi said:
Hi Lisa,
Your reviews are the best, so thank you first of all. Can you check if it has any eSIM capabilities? Supposedly S20 was going to get an update to allow eSIM use in US but that never happened...
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pdagal said:
Thanks . I'm not seeing anything under connection settings on our US unlocked Note 20 Ultra (there's no IMEI listed or cellular network option listed under connection settings when no nano SIM is installed. EsimClient is running on the phone, which makes me think the hardware must be there. EsimClient is not running on my GS 20+ unlocked.
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Great, thank you for checking and comparing with S20+ !
eSIMClient running gives me hope that we will get eSIM support in an update...Still perplexed how or why Samsung has gone out of the way to disable eSIM on US variants when Apple, Google support it.

pdagal said:
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
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Ha! Thanks Lisa (love your tech vids!!) - I switched to the ATT version. Supposed to be here 8/21. I can't take a chance with wifi calling being borked, or that just that I may need to Odin-flash updates or CSC packs periodically to keep up with the monthly patches (ie force an unlocked unit to keep working on ATT's network if my previous firmware gets overwritten etc. I mean). I guess as I got older I went from a tech pioneer and adopter to just an end user LOL.... I just need it to work. Maybe I can do that package remove thingy and chop the bloatware periodically... we shall see once the community gets these units and starts their dev magic for us.
I guess I will need to make an appt at the local ATT store in a week to get on a new 5G plan from my current 4G one to take advantage of the coming speeds.

You're welcome- glad you enjoy our vids! With AT&T, you can simply change your plan online, no need to visit a store. The mid and high tier unlimited plans include 5G.
jaxf250 said:
Ha! Thanks Lisa (love your tech vids!!) - I switched to the ATT version. Supposed to be here 8/21. I can't take a chance with wifi calling being borked, or that just that I may need to Odin-flash updates or CSC packs periodically to keep up with the monthly patches (ie force an unlocked unit to keep working on ATT's network if my previous firmware gets overwritten etc. I mean). I guess as I got older I went from a tech pioneer and adopter to just an end user LOL.... I just need it to work. Maybe I can do that package remove thingy and chop the bloatware periodically... we shall see once the community gets these units and starts their dev magic for us.
I guess I will need to make an appt at the local ATT store in a week to get on a new 5G plan from my current 4G one to take advantage of the coming speeds.
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I flashed my unlocked Note 10 plus and didnt get wifi calling, visual voicemail, VOLTE.....only reason I am up grading is to get an ATT version, and to skip all the hassle of an unlocked version. Never again.

pdagal said:
I'm not a gent, but I doI have the Note 20 Ultra in for review and am using it with an AT&T SIM. VoLTE works, no option for WiFi calling.
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Could you tell me more. I have the US unlocked note 20 ultra, I put an AT&T sim in (from my note 9 unlocked) and I can't find an option to turn on wifi calling. I pretty much gave up on feature like this, because I would rather have the unlocked phone, but if it works now maybe I am missing something.
Thanks
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Question U1 VS Carrier Firmware

I have a TMO S22U and basically I immediately flashed to U1. I'm just curious are there any advantages I'm missing out on being on U1 opposed to T-Mobile U? I know there probably aren't many but I'm just curious.

Some say U1 us better. I'm At&t so probably someone on Tmo will chime in. But for me, U1 offered nothing over U. I mean yes no At&t bloat but I can disable what I don't want on U to get the desired affect.

My biggest thing was the T-Mobile splash screen, it sounds SO DUMB but flashing to U1 made it literally 100% Samsung for me I'm just wondering what could have been lol

The only thing I heard, but I am not certain about is that you lose the TMO visual email capability. Otherwise I have not heard anything else. I am on TMO and I kept mine on U. As butchieboy said, I just disable what I do not want. In all reality, there is not much from TMO that is loaded on the system side. More of the bloat is from Samsung and Google.

Thanks for the speedy replies guys much appreciated

One thing I noticed when I did the same thing, was I could not get 5G Ultra Capacity to work. Not certain I was doing anything wrong, just wouldn't work for me.

I think I read somewhere that you do get it, but there is no icon for it in the U1 image. It will show 4G LTE. Check your download speeds.

dalepl said:
I think I read somewhere that you do get it, but there is no icon for it in the U1 image. It will show 4G LTE. Check your download speeds.
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I did, 2 days apart in the same spot, the icon showed 5G as did the speed test connection type, but the speeds were much slower than 5G UC, almost 400 Mbps difference. Switched the firmware, back to the insane, almost WiFi type speeds.

Did you check the mobile networks setting to make sure 5G is available and selected?

dalepl said:
Did you check the mobile networks setting to make sure 5G is available and selected?
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Yes, that was my first thought. It never quite worked the way I should have.

preinstalled crap apps on tmo firmware

The main benefit for me on the unlocked firmware is the built in called id and spam blocking. For att you have to pay extra and tmobile has it on its best plan. But still think it works better than tmobiles implementation. And since i change carriers often i like to always have caller id and spam blocking no matter which one i use.

SomeXGhost said:
My biggest thing was the T-Mobile splash screen, it sounds SO DUMB but flashing to U1 made it literally 100% Samsung for me I'm just wondering what could have been lol
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Can I ask what specific firmware you used to flash to unlocked?

lmtdshady said:
Can I ask what specific firmware you used to flash to unlocked?
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I downloaded the S980U1UEU1 firmware which on the latest update ends with AVCK. Used Frija to download it

Carrier firmwares usually get updated a week before the u1 series does.

slime340 said:
One thing I noticed when I did the same thing, was I could not get 5G Ultra Capacity to work. Not certain I was doing anything wrong, just wouldn't work for me.
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Would've just been a considence. U1 firmware does connect to 5G UC just look at the service menu and it'll confirm if your connected to N41 or not.
But I moved back from u1 to tmv U firmware due to having weird call /sms issues where it would just stop working and only fix was a reboot. Hasn't happened since switching back to U firmware.

Here's an interesting question..
I was on TMO and I bought a S22U from TMO (unlocked it with them afterwards) and of course it was on 5GUC and everything (I used ESIM). I got another sim (Mint Mobile) and when used as primary it would show 5G+
After a while, and just out of spite of the hideous 4G LTE TMO icon I Flashed the U1 firmware.. I'm no longer using TMO as I ported my number to Mint and it has been good.. Would it make sense to return to TMO U firmware or should I stay in U1 as Im no longer using the TMO sim?

joancolmenares said:
Here's an interesting question..
I was on TMO and I bought a S22U from TMO (unlocked it with them afterwards) and of course it was on 5GUC and everything (I used ESIM). I got another sim (Mint Mobile) and when used as primary it would show 5G+
After a while, and just out of spite of the hideous 4G LTE TMO icon I Flashed the U1 firmware.. I'm no longer using TMO as I ported my number to Mint and it has been good.. Would it make sense to return to TMO U firmware or should I stay in U1 as Im no longer using the TMO sim?
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Probably fine on U1. You're no longer connecting to anything advantageous besides updates being slightly faster with U.

I'm with T-Mobile, but purchased mine directly from Samsung.. I have the S22 Ultra U1. Since my last phone purchased from T-Mobile A52 5G. biggest change, No daily spam calls or text.. What a difference that makes.. With T-Mobile, their so called Spam blocker was notihng more than a spam attractor. Plus no more of the hidious bloat and splash screen..

I have the unlocked and I dirty flash switch between U and U1 depending on which newest ROM is out. There's absolutely no difference save for the annoying TMOB splash screen and that it says UC ... But from my extensive testing the speeds are the same whether it says 5G on the U1 or 5GUC on the U.

Question 5guc on TMobile

just switched to TMobile. Using esim. Was on Verizon forever, but they got really bad, cut offs, poor service, lost towers with power failures... Then they wouldn't let me use my unlocked phone for full features, always said generic android. Anyway, in my area Tmobile says its 5guc. My indicator only says 5g. Anyone in a 5guc area getting the correct symbol?

yes, T-Mobile, physical sim though.

bender.h said:
yes, T-Mobile, physical sim though.
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Is yours an unlocked phone, or carrier phone? I read somewhere unlocked phones don't have same indicator. Thanks.

mt2020 said:
Is yours an unlocked phone, or carrier phone? I read somewhere unlocked phones don't have same indicator. Thanks.
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T-Mobile phone

mt2020 said:
just switched to TMobile. Using esim. Was on Verizon forever, but they got really bad, cut offs, poor service, lost towers with power failures... Then they wouldn't let me use my unlocked phone for full features, always said generic android. Anyway, in my area Tmobile says its 5guc. My indicator only says 5g. Anyone in a 5guc area getting the correct symbol?
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My previous phone was a Pixel 6 Pro. It showed the 5GUC symbol while I was at home. My new Flip4 just shows 5G. I have no idea if it's labeling or if I only get 5G.
Do some people get the 5GUC symbol?

with the Flip4 & Fold4, T-Mobile purchased devices should see 5GUC. Unlocked devices simply see 5G

entropism said:
with the Flip4 & Fold4, T-Mobile purchased devices should see 5GUC. Unlocked devices simply see 5G
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Thanks, so does that mean it's just the UC symbol thats missing or does my unlocked version not use that frequency?

Yes, if Ultra Capacity is available you will get it, but whether you are on 5g Extended (5g) or 5gUC the symbol remains the same. Only way to tell is testing internet speed. 5g not that much slower than 5guc, but yea, we all want what we pay for . Just switched to TMobile, was with Verizon since the beginning of cell phones, they have really slipped. I know get 5g in places Verizon barely covers in lte

Matterhorn said:
Thanks, so does that mean it's just the UC symbol thats missing or does my unlocked version not use that frequency?
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I use unlocked Samsung devices, live in a 5GUC area and even though it's not showing the UC icon, I'm getting speeds (700+) that are not capable on anything but UC. I'm not concerned one bit.

Small update: The Sept update released yesterday fixes the icon issue, and Unlocked devices now show 5GUC when it's available.

Yep. Mine starting showing up correctly